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hakkikt writes "Icrontic brings us a review about a CPU-cooling device every self-respecting overclocker and cpu-speed freak must get. The device is called MX-EVA3. With a price of US$500, it's not for the faint of wallet, but the performance is awesome."
Go mysql, one comment and already overloaded!
/.ing will teach them different!
On the other hand, I do like mysql, but it seems nobody configures it to have a load on it. Oh well, a good
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and it's completely hosed already?
Sheesh.
Perhaps they should've used the $500 dollar heat sink on their server and kicked it up a notch.
Why pay $500 for a cooling device when the next-step high mHz CPU can be purchased for less than that? I mean, the appeal of overclocking is that it allows people to extend their hardware far beyond the intended lifetimes. So say you've got an Intel 900, and with this device, you can overclock it to 1.4 gHz. So what have you gained? An unstable, extremely expensive CPU. The equivalient "real" 1.4 ghz chip could have been purchased for less than the cooling device.
And nevermind those, "I have my Celeron 300 running at 2.3 gigahertz!" folks. CPU speed is so overrated - remember, fast RAM, and lots of it, is the best thing you can do to increase system performance. Don't fall victim to the overclocking madness - spend that $500 on a gig of RAM.
whoever it is who's buying these, can i sell you my new super-conducting speaker cables, and a liquid nitrogen supply contract?
The server isn't actually down - it's just that they've configured mysql to only accept a certain number of connections (I think 10 is the default). Keep reloading - you'll get in.
other customers who bought this item also bought:
2500' suspension bridge: $19.65
pet rock (polished granite): $14.95
enron stock: $87.23
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It's 1 am here (2 am east coast, 11 pm west) and this place seems to be down. At least, I keep getting an error message about a failed mysql connection. Anyone with the page in their cache want to post it here?
Nothing for 6-digit uids?
Overclocking has become a modern-day, geek equivalent of spending 5,000 hours working on some old [insert venerable American car type here] when you could just go out a new Acura NSX for less than your time was worth, and get way more chicks.
Most people would be out of their minds to pay $500 for a fan/heatsink, but $500 for a cooling system may not be out of line. I don't know just how much cooling the CPU would bring down the total system temp.. probably by quite a bit.
:)
The reason for this is that there are some cases/places where the ambient temperature may be too high for a computer with a normal fan.
For example, Texas, in the summer, when the AC goes out (or if there is no AC to begin with.)
Most people would just say, "Hey, turn off the computer then." That doesn't work if you're away
That device is not marketed for your average user--it's aimed at the people who make overclocking CPUs and hardware their hobby. Sure, you might mock the stamp collector or the model train builder for spending thousands of dollars a year on things you would consider 'crap', but do they care? No. So what if the stamp collector spends $300 on a mint-condition stamp from the year 1917--it's to support HIS hobby, for HIS enjoyment, not yours. All the same--so what if the overclocker who buys a $130 Pentium 4 1.6A and a $500 phase-change cooling box (still a bit overpriced for a R-134a compressor, IMHO)? For him, that $500 is well-spent if it lets him clock his 1.6 GHz chip to 2.8 GHz. He doesn't care what the person who is content running a PII 400 MHz chip thinks.
Good things
As you can see the MX-EVA3 can take care of some very high heat load. It is by far the best extreme cooling solution on the market today. I've used all sorts of cooling to get to the top and I was under the impression that my 220 pelt and chilled water cooler was bringing my chip to its limits. I was wrong.
With the MX-EVA3 you can eliminate the use of pelts, extra power supplies and water. Now you use just one simple evaporator hook up.
It also is pretty good for space. It fits under your case so all you're doing is adding about 9 inches to the height of your case. As far as the noise level it is very tolerable for any Xtreme Overclocker. This can only be written up as a good thing.
Bad things
I'll start with the instructions. They are very good for condensation proofing but that's about it. There are no instructions for adjusting the Digital Display as far as setting the boot temperature or setting what ever it is you can set with the 4 buttons on the Digital Display. This would be nice to know.
They have no recommendation on moving your 4 AMD CPU tabs which in my opinion is a critical must.
Mounting is a bit tough but if you take your time you can get it right. It's always a scary moment when it comes to risking frying your CPU. I'm sure the Intel 478 mounting may be a lot easier.
Nothing for 6-digit uids?
listen, i'm extremely drunk right now. why aren't you? it's fucking friday night, for fuck's sake. why the hell aren't you at a club?!?!
I could ask you the same; getting drunk in your room alone isn't cool!
It's been a long time.
what's wrong with hitting the bottle alone, though?!
These words from your site:
Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. Feel the burn ... of QuickBasic!
Because some people have more money than brains?
Seriously, practical overclocking is currently dead. It died when my Celeron 533 running at 824 (and even the 533's that could hit 1GHz) stopped cutting it for the latest games. The price/performance ratio advantage that overclocking used to give you simply doesn't exist with current hardware.
My brother boasted to me the other day about how his video card can be overclocked in software and it doesn't void the warranty. Hello? This isn't overclocking, it's the manufacturer underclocking to sell more units to people who are so far into the rice boy mentality that their mind shuts down and their wallet opens up when they see the word "overclock".
Can I hook one of these things to the bottom of my Jolt Cola can? -Bingo
Most overclockers just do it because it can be done. They don't really care about price/performance, although they will sometimes claim that as a benefit of all their time and money spent (wasted?) on overclocking.
I don't really see much point in it, since I'm only interested in price/performance. I can find much better solutions than overclocking (usually, switching software or CPU architecture).
If someone wants to create the ultimate desktop system, I'd suggest investing in server technology rather than pushing consumer technology to its limits. You can get some really cool stuff off ebay for pennies on the dollar... too bad that there's nothing really pushing consumer technology to its limits, except for benchmarks.
It would have been better to call it the MX-EVA2 (Asuka's) , since the EVA3 is the black one that goes a bit mental and strange.
graspee
. . .
At work, people I know are more interested in the water cooling scene, hoping one day for quieter machines. . .
But now, with an external *piped* cooling device on the market, we're just waiting for the advent of building facility CPU cooling ducts, just like the air - con.
Yup, rent new office, bring in desk, plug CPU into cooling duct (obviously with your case and machine coming standard with a nice clean bit of plumbing), connect cat5 (or fiber, come on this is an _ideal_ office :) and go . . .
Final thought, is there any reliability gain to be had from using such a cooler and _not_ overclocking? Okay, I could probably answer that one if I tried, but it's breakfast time and I'm hungry . . .
It's a freon pressure pump (likely not pumping freon though) and if you ever 'looked-inside' your parents refridgerator with the help of a screwdriver and a few 8-12mm keys, you have already seen one exactly like this. Although this one is likely to function better that your parents frigo after your 'autopsy'
echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln80~Psnlbx]16isb572CCB9AE9DB03273snlbxq' |dc
Simply put the whole of the PC inside!
perl -e 'printf("%x!\n",49153)'
We all start somewhere. That paticular page is several years old now.
BTW, language is largely irrelevant. Quickbasic provides the means for low level hardware access, and for the most part, it's so goddamned slow, it forces any coders who actually want to get anything done in that language to learn heavy optimization techiques. I'd say that's not too bad for a language I just picked up one day because it actually had well documented graphics routines(something which is very important for the first few programs I wrote). It's also good because what you can and cannot do in it remains extremely constant. When I tried setting a pointer to 0xA0000000 in C, only one of 5 compilers I tried would let me without giving me an error message, and only that same one would let me write the ASM code to set the video mode.
Hell, my current project still uses it (Quest for a King), because I don't feel like porting thousands of lines of code to C. On the other hand, look at my code. It's fast(for QB), it's all very low level, IMHO it's fairly well structured, and it all works. That's more than I can say for a large number of beginners projects coded in C.
Two things puzzle me, however. First, why did you respond to an AC with something from MY site? Secondly, what does WC have to do with people getting drunk alone?
It's been a long time.
Sorry, the acronym of the system I mentioned on that page. I ended up coding it, but all does is manages several DOS windows at a time in real-mode. Having several dos-windows open at once comes in handy when you are trying to set up a 9x system, but haven't got the GUI running yet.
It's been a long time.
Maybe you don't, but I mention it whenever someone asks the question "What did you use to make your game?".
It's been a long time.
next time you come up with a reason why O/C'ing is a better desktop performance enhancer than say, a RAID card and a striped mirror, please make it at least a wee bit plausible.