What about sound quality?
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pheph
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· Score: 4, Insightful
While the idea of very quiet sound may appeal to some listeners, one cannot deny the concept that since this is recorded at a lower volume it is actually of lower representative quality. Why not record it at resonable volumes and play it at your desired listening volume level?
In example, instead of your sample range range being from 0-65535 it is 0-4096, it may be 'lowercase music', but it could also be represented in just 12 bits instead of 16. The vinyl enthusiats must HATE these guys!
If these people are happy making this, and other people enjoy listening to it: good for them! In my book however, this doesn't qualify as music. For me music has structure, meaning and most importantly emotion, and contains almost nothing but non-randomness. For me this only qualifies as sound. Definately not my cup of tea! (come to think of it, the sound of a cup of tea cooling down could make a nice record!).
Re:I didnt like them.
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GutBomb
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· Score: 3, Insightful
pretty sad that you don't realize it's music until you have already studied music. and then the only reson you recognize it as music is because your instructors told you "even though it does not sound like music, it is music"
You Have got to be joking.
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Nobody's+Hero
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· Score: 2, Insightful
This is not music.
Anyone who has bought this crap...you've been duped.
I mean think about it this is no more music then me listening intently to my CPU fan. If I wanted to relax to the "sweet sounds" of a teakettle, I'd make some damn TEA! I can't believe people have actually spent money on buying these albums!!
And as far as it being "art", I can tell you right now that this is simply going to be another thing for the "art people" to be pretentious about. So you can call it "art" and tell me that obviously I don't understand because I can't comprehend it's true beauty. But obviously you people are only intent on listening to the sound of your own heads up your arses.
-- The Only Person Willing to be Me is ME!
Re:Electronica as a whole can benefit
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 0, Insightful
What on earth are you talking about? This crap isn't music. These people aren't musicians. I'll accept that they're recording engineers, but recording boiling water and then claiming it's music is pure stupidity in my book.
I find all this genre nonsense...
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amarodeeps
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· Score: 2, Insightful
...really frustrating. I mean, what's with all the people getting on each other's cases about "this isn't ambient, how could you confuse it with glitch..." etc. Why are we incapable of listening to music as it is rather than dividing it all into little categories?
Okay, before you give me a response, I've heard these things before:
Point- It helps us understand what other music we'd be interested in and find it. Rebuttal- Why don't we compare musicians to other musicians? That's more accurate and would probably get us closer to something we'd like. Frankly, there are more similarities between say, some Aphex Twin and Stockhausen than Aphex Twin and Moby, but they are lumped together and you are less likely to find out about Stockhausen than Moby because of that. That's a shame, because Moby sucks balls;). You are going to enjoy music more if you throw those categories out the window and just listen.
Point- By putting things in genres, you can understand the lineage of music. Rebuttal- This is true only to a point. Unfortunately I think it's been a self-fulfilling prophecy. Because we've had these categories people have started classifying themselves and putting themselves willingly into little boxes. Remember though that the great musicians didn't give a shit about these categories...Coltrane, Coleman, Mingus, etc. weren't out to create 'Free Jazz,' they were just bringing in aspects of their culture and other cultures together. That's a much more broad-minded grasp of music. The really funny thing to me that people do today is take little bits and pieces of different genres very consciously and try to call it something new, they categorize it before it's even out there. "Yeah, it's my new Funk/Jungle/Experimental Digital Hardcore/Polka band!" Why not just play some fucking music??
Anyways, this is a brief digression for a nerd site like this, but thought it'd be interesting to get some REAL discussion going about musical styles.
BTW, I have to ditto the poster above who said that the article was little more than an ad for Macs. I guess more generally it was an illustration that Wired probably shouldn't be doing pieces on music. Or they should realize that the technology is just a tool, no matter how much it has empowered people to create new music. For real music coverage, instead check out The Wire.
Re:what's it take to get a decent name?
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 1, Insightful
Why are people so ignorant and self-centered?
uhm, yeah...dude takes a frigging mixing board, jacks it back into itself and calls it music? Sure. plenty of silence in between beats. Guess I am just not artistic, but if this qualifies as art, then me drinking a bottle of water is worth millions.
You don't like it, or it doesn't sound like music you like, so it isn't music or even art. How nice.
You think this music doesn't require much talent? Fine. You think the music sucks/is boring/is a total waste of time? Fine. Opinions are fine. But, saying that obviously this isn't art or music? How closed-minded of you.
Thanks for putting it all on the table... now we don't have to spend time figuring out if you're an obnoxious ass or not.
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In example, instead of your sample range range being from 0-65535 it is 0-4096, it may be 'lowercase music', but it could also be represented in just 12 bits instead of 16. The vinyl enthusiats must HATE these guys!
If these people are happy making this, and other people enjoy listening to it: good for them! In my book however, this doesn't qualify as music. For me music has structure, meaning and most importantly emotion, and contains almost nothing but non-randomness. For me this only qualifies as sound. Definately not my cup of tea! (come to think of it, the sound of a cup of tea cooling down could make a nice record!).
pretty sad that you don't realize it's music until you have already studied music. and then the only reson you recognize it as music is because your instructors told you "even though it does not sound like music, it is music"
This is not music.
Anyone who has bought this crap...you've been duped.
I mean think about it this is no more music then me listening intently to my CPU fan. If I wanted to relax to the "sweet sounds" of a teakettle, I'd make some damn TEA! I can't believe people have actually spent money on buying these albums!!
And as far as it being "art", I can tell you right now that this is simply going to be another thing for the "art people" to be pretentious about. So you can call it "art" and tell me that obviously I don't understand because I can't comprehend it's true beauty. But obviously you people are only intent on listening to the sound of your own heads up your arses.
The Only Person Willing to be Me is ME!
What on earth are you talking about? This crap isn't music. These people aren't musicians. I'll accept that they're recording engineers, but recording boiling water and then claiming it's music is pure stupidity in my book.
Okay, before you give me a response, I've heard these things before:
Point- It helps us understand what other music we'd be interested in and find it. ;). You are going to enjoy music more if you throw those categories out the window and just listen.
Rebuttal- Why don't we compare musicians to other musicians? That's more accurate and would probably get us closer to something we'd like. Frankly, there are more similarities between say, some Aphex Twin and Stockhausen than Aphex Twin and Moby, but they are lumped together and you are less likely to find out about Stockhausen than Moby because of that. That's a shame, because Moby sucks balls
Point- By putting things in genres, you can understand the lineage of music.
Rebuttal- This is true only to a point. Unfortunately I think it's been a self-fulfilling prophecy. Because we've had these categories people have started classifying themselves and putting themselves willingly into little boxes. Remember though that the great musicians didn't give a shit about these categories...Coltrane, Coleman, Mingus, etc. weren't out to create 'Free Jazz,' they were just bringing in aspects of their culture and other cultures together. That's a much more broad-minded grasp of music. The really funny thing to me that people do today is take little bits and pieces of different genres very consciously and try to call it something new, they categorize it before it's even out there. "Yeah, it's my new Funk/Jungle/Experimental Digital Hardcore/Polka band!" Why not just play some fucking music??
Anyways, this is a brief digression for a nerd site like this, but thought it'd be interesting to get some REAL discussion going about musical styles.
BTW, I have to ditto the poster above who said that the article was little more than an ad for Macs. I guess more generally it was an illustration that Wired probably shouldn't be doing pieces on music. Or they should realize that the technology is just a tool, no matter how much it has empowered people to create new music. For real music coverage, instead check out The Wire.
You don't like it, or it doesn't sound like music you like, so it isn't music or even art. How nice.
You think this music doesn't require much talent? Fine. You think the music sucks/is boring/is a total waste of time? Fine. Opinions are fine. But, saying that obviously this isn't art or music? How closed-minded of you.
Thanks for putting it all on the table... now we don't have to spend time figuring out if you're an obnoxious ass or not.