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Teknogeek writes "The BSA says piracy is thriving. At least, according to this article. Note one interesting statistic: '...the group found that 57 percent of respondents never or seldom pay for copyrighted works they download. And 12 percent admitted to pirating software.' How much do you want to bet that 45 percent gap is freeware and/or open source?" On a similar note, an Anonymous Coward writes: "MIT Technology Review reports on the process of scanning the entire internet for digital signatures matching copyrighted work (watermarking not required), and automatically emailing threats to the offenders and their ISPs."

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  1. the problem by oni · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MIT Technology Review reports on the process of scanning the entire internet for digital signatures matching copyrighted work (watermarking not required), and automatically emailing threats to the offenders and their ISPs

    The problem with this and all automated law enforcement schemes, be they traffic cameras or facial recognition, is that they create a substantial assumption of guilt that is almost impossible to refute. "The computer says you're guilty, so you must be"

    People find it hard to believe a system that is actually catching lawbreakers can make a mistake, until the mistake lands *them* in trouble.

    1. Re:the problem by bryan1945 · · Score: 5, Funny

      If Tom Cruise ever showed up at my door and accused me of "thinking", I'd remind him of Scientology and breaking up with Nicole Kidman, and then bitchslap him with a salmon and then an aardvark.

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  2. Since when does copyright imply a contract? by pongo000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a bit confused here...two different sources quoted in the /. article seem to indicate that copyright automatically implies licensing. Has there been some change in the copyright law in this regard? A copyright, under US Law, is automatic: The creator of the work is automatically granted the copyright. This post is copyrighted by me, and under the law I'm not required to note that anywhere (although doing so will make it easier for others to recognize the copyrighted nature of my work). According to BSA and MIT, the mere existence of this copyrighted work (my post) automatically implies a license between myself and anyone who chooses to view, cache, or copy this post. How have we allowed the notion of copyright to become so twisted?

  3. BayTSP, Cyveillance by Dr.+Awktagon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah, those guys have been trawling the web for a while, looking for lord knows what. I have a ModRewrite rule in my httpd.conf that feeds them a bunch of garbage whenever they come by (thanks, Sugarplum). I ought to feed them some Jennifer Lopez files next time, see what happens...actually I should just firewall them away.

    Cyveillance netblocks:
    65.118.41.192 - 65.118.41.223
    63.148.99.224 - 63.148.99.255

    Anybody know what blocks BayTSP uses for their spiders?

    1. Re:BayTSP, Cyveillance by follower-fillet · · Score: 5, Funny

      > What about giving them /dev/urandom for downloading?
      And get busted for eventually supplying every copyrighted digital work ever produced?

    2. Re:BayTSP, Cyveillance by kindbud · · Score: 5, Funny

      I got a funnier idea: go ahead and put up some copyrighted material. Configure the webserver to ONLY offer the material to the Cyveillance netblocks. When they send you the DMCA takedown notice, compose your response and deny that the material exists. Only Cyveillance will see it. Everyone else - including your ISP - will agree with you that the material does not seem to exist, despite Cyveillance's claims.

      Could be fun if repeated over and over!

      RIAA dude: Hey, Cyveillance guy, why are you billing us for all these takedown notices where the material never actually existed? I went to look at some of these sites myself and despite my fervent wish to nail somebody for something, nothing was there.

      Cyveillance guy: TILT

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  4. Well, in Fairness by Stephen+VanDahm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Confessions of a Reformed W4r3z D00d:

    In my MS Windows days every single piece of software I used was pirated. Windows 98, Office, Photoshop, the works. Now that I'm 100% Unix, I still get all my software for free, but legally now. I know that some of you never pirate software and MP3's, but you've got to admit that you know a whole slew of folks that do.

    I don't think anyone contests that piracy exists, but even the existence of rampant piracy doesn't prove that software companies lose money due to piracy. Would I have bought a copy of Photoshop had I not been able to get it for free? Hell no! Same with Office 97 -- I wouldn't have paid hundreds of dollars for something when Lotus SmartSuite came free with my computer and worked just fine. The connection between unauthorized use of w4r3z and lost income is really hard to establish.

    Steve

  5. Wanna Bet? by phyxeld · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How much do you want to bet that 45 percent gap is freeware and/or open source?

    How much do you want to bet that a study about software piracy conducted by the BSA is about as unbiased as a study about communism conducted by China?

    Doing anything with these numbers is silly, we all know it's just a bunch of bullshit.

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  6. Re:Article Says: by alan_d_post · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the GNU site:

    Publishers often refer to prohibited copying as ``piracy.'' In this way, they imply that illegal copying is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnaping and murdering the people on them.

    If you don't believe that illegal copying is just like kidnaping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word ``piracy'' to describe it. Neutral terms such as ``prohibited copying'' or ``unauthorized copying'' are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as ``sharing information with your neighbor.''

  7. Slashdot is right... go figure by kaphka · · Score: 5, Informative
    the group found that 57 percent of respondents never or seldom pay for copyrighted works they download. And 12 percent admitted to pirating software.' How much do you want to bet that 45 percent gap is freeware and/or open source?
    I've been trying to fight the urge to post to Slashdot lately, but when I read that quote, I was all set to rant about it. Surely, by "copyrighted works" the researchers meant "unlicensed, commercial copyrighted works", and someone had stupidly or deceptively misinterpreted their point.

    So, I checked the ZDNet article. It said the same thing. "Ah," I thought, "typical ZDNet incompetence, twisting the words of the press release."

    Next, I checked the press release, and found the same claim yet again. Now I was starting to get worried, but at least the press release provided a link to the actual report (PDF). The report says,
    A significant percentage of Internet users knowingly
    violate copyright laws.
    57 percent of downloaders either seldom
    pay or never pay for the copyrighted software
    they download. And 36 percent of all Internet users say it is not likely they will ever pay for software they download.
    Of all Internet users, 12 percent admit to acquiring unlicensed commercial software.
    There you have it. In the (distressingly significant) opinion of the Business Software Alliance, any individual who downloads a copy of Linux, Netscape Navigator, the latest Windows Service Pack, or any other software provided without charge, is "knowingly violating copyright law." That's terrifying.

    (I apologize for taking so much time just to repeat what was said in the original submission, but accurate hyperbole is so rare on Slashdot that I thought it should be highlighted.)

    As an aside, I'm actually very surprised that 41% of those surveyed indicated that they pay for downloaded software "most times" or "every time." I've been on the net since Pipeline NY (those were the days...), and I have paid for downloaded software perhaps 3 or 4 times in my life. Even in today's "internet economy," it's awfully hard to find someone who will sell you software without including an oversized box and ten marketing flyers. I strongly suspect that this survey was poorly designed, and that the results are garbage; however, that only makes the BSA's interpretation of it more disturbing.
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