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Carmack on Doom 3 Video Cards

mr_sheel writes "According to a Gamespy interview with John Carmack, Carmack says what he thinks about the video cards with Doom3: ATI Radeon 8500 is a better card, with a nicer fragment path, while NVidia still consistently runs faster due to better drivers. And of course, the GeForce SDR cards will not be "fast enough to play the game properly unless you run at 320x240 or so." And in a ShackNews interview with Carmack, he says that Doom 3 at E3 was only running at medium quality... wow."

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  1. yay. this is fun. by Gizzmonic · · Score: 4, Funny
    So some hotshot Ferrari-drivin' game developer who makes more money than God likes to buy video cards every week to compare 'em?

    You know what? What if people were obsessed with lobsters the way that these guys were with fill rates?

    you know, bob down at the creek is like: "Hey, I caught this lobster, and it's scurrying abilities are really great, but the sloppy curvature of its claws really kills it for me..." and then slim replies, "Well, shit, I'm gonna overclock my lobster boat and catch so many lobsters they're gonna elect me King of Red Lobster! And it's got bump-mapping too!"

    My point being: You can stay up too late and have your weird z-buffered, anti-aliased dreams, but you can't get back that $400 you just dropped on the latest Bligblagdoodlehopper of a card, and dontcha forget itBR>

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  2. Re:yay. this is fun. by Anonymous+Cowrad · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ok, first off, nobody makes more money than god. Churches are very profitable businesses.

    Second off, sweet christ that was a terrible analogy, if only because maybe five guys in the world can relate.

    Thirdly (and lastly, my beer isn't getting any cooler), why shouldn't there be a high end pc games market? Porsche doesn't have to use geo metro engines so that geo metro owners don't feel left out.

    Lastly (I lied about the last one), of course you can't get money back that you spend. This is one of the fundamental tenets of capitalism. I'm afraid you're just going to have to get used to it.

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  3. Re:The Console winner will be? by Xunker · · Score: 5, Funny

    a) eventually
    b) at lower quality and/or performance.


    c) and on a TV.

    On a TV. I mean really. You want to take a game like that, meant to be seen at 1024x764 and put in on a screen that can squeeze out only 400x500 if you're lucky? Would you like me to kick you in the nuts while you're playing, too?
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  4. Faster GFX card insanity by Francis · · Score: 3, Funny

    Once upon a time, I turned to my friend and said, "When in God's name did graphics cards become more expensive than your CPU?"

    Without missing a beat he replies, ".. Well, it's got more transistors..."

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  5. Law limits amount of lobster you can feed people by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 3, Funny

    What if people were obsessed with lobsters the way that these guys were with fill rates

    People would get sick of lobster. In early colonial days (N. Amer.) lobsters were incredibly plentiful. They would be collected as fertilizer for farms, there was a law limiting how often you could make your indentured servant eat lobster.

  6. Once again, Mac users have the edge by jcsehak · · Score: 4, Funny

    Because by the time a Mac version of the game is released, those expensive video cards will have been low-end for at least a couple years.

    [Me 3 years from now]: Hey, I just got this cool new game, Doom III !

    [Everybody else]: ...

    [Everybody else] (to each other, turning away): C'mon, let's go play Tribes 4.

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  7. Re:When did games dictate the need for faster hrdw by malkman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Games with big, nicely rendered breasts ALWAYS do well, reguardless of any actual quality.

    You want Doom III to have the same forced-upgrade appeal as the last two? Just put some big, nicely rendered breasts in it somewhere. Maybe on those fat grey guys from the screenshots.....

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  8. Re:Disappointing... by wheany · · Score: 2, Funny

    I get tired really quickly of having my ass fragged on the net by some 14 year-old who runs circles around me.

    Not to mention that when you do manage to kill someone, they start whining "cheater, wallhack, <weapon>whore!!"

  9. A mouse? by CaptnMArk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do you have a mouse on your precious console ?

  10. yeah by blablablastuff · · Score: 2, Funny

    fuck that innovation stuff. lets just keep the same old tired 3 year old shit for games. change is scary.

  11. Re:I'd exchange speed of rendering by IvyMike · · Score: 3, Funny

    When building a system to play modern 3d games, I've started thinking about the video CPU as the "main processor", and the Athlon or Intel CPU on the motherboard as the "coprocessor". This way, I can sort of trick myself into being comfortable spending $300+ on the "main processor" and a mere $150 on the "coprocessor".

    If you're not in it for the games, that philosophy doesn't really apply. Since I have want to play the latest games right away, I need to have MS Windows on that system. The OS condemns the machine to being a toy, so my philosophy above pretty much makes sense. ;)

  12. Re:yay. this is fun. by Ultra64 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The enw unreal engine allows rocket paths to disturb steam that comes up from vents as they pass through it.
    so what? I dont even notice that shit in real life, let alone video games.


    You get rockets shot at you in real life?
    Where do you work??

  13. high quality by DarkHelmet · · Score: 3, Funny
    he says that Doom 3 at E3 was only running at medium quality... wow.

    He couldn't find any damn quantum processors on pricewatch, or else he would have taken some higher quality shots.

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  14. Re:Laptops...? by squaretorus · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is the key question.

    What better way to attract women than to be playing Doom III on a train within a week of launch and to be kicking ASS!

    If your laptop has a nice velvetty 'keyboard nipple' pointer you have a second angle with which to get them going! Chicks really dig those! "ooooh! it feels so soooft!"

    All aboard the love train!!!

  15. Re:High end hardware reasoning by evilpaul13 · · Score: 1, Funny

    My expert analysis says Carmack's probably a bit of the Karma troll.