Responses to ADTI Paper

Everyone and their brother has something to say about the silly and incoherent ADTI paper released yesterday. It doesn't even seem worth the effort to me - it's so internally inconsistent that I can't imagine it convincing anyone of anything. Nevertheless, David Skoll of Roaring Penguin has a good rebuttal, and Newsforge ^? pointed out that the MITRE study that's been kicking around for so long is now public, and took a look at the differences between the two. Update: 06/11 18:43 GMT by M : Another rebuttal, by John Viega and Bob Fleck of Secure Software.

Comments

Not Convincing?

[Henry V .009]

I don't know what you all are talking about. I thought it was very convincing.

And I'm a senator. My constituency trusts me to make decisions for them. Why else would Disney^H^H^H^H^H^Hthe people of South Carolina elect me?

Thanks, MS.

[OpenSourced]

Perhaps the AdTI misses the point. GPL advocates do not care if GPL'd software can be made to work in a proprietary business model. It's not our problem. There's no God-given right for proprietary software vendors to make money; they have to compete. And if the rules of the marketplace suddenly change and make it difficult for them, well---tough. Adapt or die. Don't moan.

Yup, I think that's the point I've always wondered at. Why is MS so upset at the GPL? Nobody is forcing anybody to use it (to my knowledge,at least. Long-haired liberals may have kidnapped some CEOs and forced them to renounce Microsoft and all its pomps and works since I last checked, but I rather doubt it).

So I suppose it's only some kind of friendly warning to innocent users (as we all know that nobody ever reads licenses, uhh... wait a moment...). If it's so, well... thanks and all that. Nice from you to spend all those dollars in raising the public awareness of the problem. I think the point is already made, thanks, walk along, it's been a pleasure, we already know what we are doing, thanks, keep moving.

ADTI software employment stats(sic)

[fw3]

"in the U.S. the software sectore accounted for approimately 319 million jobs in 2001"

Interesting given that the US census population clock currently pegs US population at 289 Million.:-).

Seriously, having spoken extensively with the author of this study on the 'phone, he just doesn't follow a lot of the details at a level to coherently argue them with an informed audience.

Sure I can find bright folks on both sides of debates on oss/proprietary, full-disclosure/security-secrecy, win/unix/mac etc.

However ADTI's treatment may pass muster with folks who don't know the details and might have a similar set of economic / philosophic biases (e.g. capitalistic=successful=proprietary).

Anyhow 'Debates' are stoopid imo, debates with 'opponents' who lack enough clue to really participate are simply boring / frustrating.

Re:My quote

[rossz]

I just received a registered email from the Elders outlining my punishment:

1. 10 strikes from a cane.
2. For one year, must play quake starting out with a 1 frag penalty.
3. Must program with emacs.

I feel the emacs requirement excessive.