Mozilla 1.1 Alpha Released

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Posted by timothy on Tuesday June 11, 2002 @11:35PM from the from-good-to-great dept.

theBrownfury writes: "Mozilla.org has released Mozilla 1.1 alpha, the first post 1.0 milestone. This release has been in the works for almost 2 months now incorporating over 1700 bug fixes and more than a dozen new features. Including: Quartz rendering for OS X 10.1.5 users, new layout performance enhancements targeted at DHTML, faster startup times and more. Here are the release notes and the link to the releases page or FTP for downloads."

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Java Problems... by PoiBoy · 2002-06-11 23:43 · Score: 2, Insightful

Hopefully they've finally fixed some of the problems running Java applets. For example, I can't play games at http://games.yahoo.com using Mozilla. I've seen tons of bugs at Bugzilla, but not being a Java expert I don't know what is what.

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1. Re:Java Problems... by codingOgre · 2002-06-12 00:08 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Not true I just played Collapse right now in a tabbed window with moz 1.0 and it worked fine.
  
  Make sure you have the Java plugin installed!
  
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2. Re:Java Problems... by Spacelord · 2002-06-12 00:39 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  The problem isn't IE vs Mozilla ... the problem is applets written for Microsoft's bastardized Java VM vs the official SUN implementation.
Re:Well done to the team (again) but.. by ealar+dlanvuli · 2002-06-12 00:06 · Score: 2, Insightful

* Selecting text for copy/paste is difficult. I often have to select more than I want, and then trim it down.

huh?, this is one of the main complaints I have about IE, stoping a selection mid-word is almost impossible using it. Mozilla handles it much more gracefully.

Set your gestures to the middle mouse button and never worry about it again, it's simple really.

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Re:Well done to the team (again) but.. by Nerant · 2002-06-12 00:09 · Score: 5, Insightful

Some points you raise:
"* Mozilla is less system tolerant than IE. Mozilla is often the first application to lose its icons and its interface starts falling to pieces. This is probably because of my memory or the CPU overheating.. but IE remains stable until the last minute."

And this is a problem in Mozilla why? You yourself state that it's because of your RAM or your overheating CPU. I don't understand how changing software will fix your hardware problem.

"* Many sites still don't display well in Mozilla. This is the Web developer's fault, but still.. Mozilla can do all of those DHTML menus and stuff, yet I still run into problems on sites that use them. An optional 'IE compliancy' patch in Mozilla would be very very useful!"

This wouldn't help anyone: sticking an IE compliancy patch would only encourage web "developers" to stick to supporting IE specific html. Mozilla renders standard HTML, not "Microsoft HTML". You want more sites to display properly in Mozilla? Email the webmaster and ask him/her to write standard HTML. Once again, you expect the Mozilla team to make such a terrible compromise when you clearly state that "This is the Web developer's fault"

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IE compatibility patch... by gusnz · 2002-06-12 00:15 · Score: 4, Insightful

Well, there's one IE emulation script here that I know of. It's a regular .JS script, designed more for designers to adapt scripts easily than for clients, but it shows off the advanced side of Moz's JS 1.5 support (getters/setters for properties...).

This brings up one of my older thoughts: you know how we can format sites with user-defined stylesheets, how about user-defined .JS files added to each page you load (without a local proxy)? Is it possible to add DOM properties with the user prefs JS files somehow? This could be very useful -- emulate IE, any other browser, customise the behaviour of any document function...

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Re:DoS in Mozilla/X by MavEtJu · 2002-06-12 00:17 · Score: 4, Insightful

As you can read on bugtraq, the general attitude is that it's more a problem within X and/or XFS than in Mozilla.

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Re:excuse me but by vondo · 2002-06-12 01:29 · Score: 4, Insightful

This was released days ago. I _do not_ mean to troll, but this really is rather latesom.
No, it wasn't. It was released on the 11th. There has been a freeze for a while, builds might have been calling themselves 1.1a, but the official release build was on the 11th.
See here or here for the history.
Too bad it doesn't run on UFS by Karl+Cocknozzle · 2002-06-12 03:00 · Score: 4, Insightful

Unfortunately, due to a bug in one of Apple's libraries (not sure which, IANADH -- I am not a darwin hacker) Mozilla (any version since .8.x) crashes instantly if launched from a UFS partition in Mac OS X.

Really sucks, because when I got rid of OS 9 on my tiBook, I reformatted it all UFS, thinking I'd never have need for HFS+ again. Oops...

At least Chimera doesn't have that problem (although there are a slew of others...)

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Re:excuse me but by blufive · 2002-06-12 06:03 · Score: 4, Insightful
you'll get no benefit from `pipelining', which works by downloading several files at a time. It's only useful if you usually have some unused bandwidth.
No. Pipelining involves:
1. sending multiple HTTP requests in one network packet, and
2. using a single network connection for multiple files, rather than one file per connection
The net result being that the browser spends far less time messing about with negotiating IP connections or waiting for the server to respond, and more time downloading data.
This has the greatest effect on high latency connections, not low bandwidth ones (though, of course, the two often go hand-in-hand), so that a 28.8 modem to a website hosted by your ISP probably won't show much difference, but a cable modem to a creaking, cruddy server on the other end of the planet will.