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Iowa Court May Order Microsoft Refunds

dowobeha writes: "The Des Moines Register is reporting that thousands of Windows 98 users in Iowa could get $40 refunds from Microsoft. The Iowa Supreme Court has found the big boys from Redmond guilty of price fixing in violation of a 1976 Iowa law. According to the report, this is the first antitrust ruling in any state that favors 'indirect purchasers' (regular consumers who got Windows preinstalled on their newly purchased computer) rather than "direct purchasers" (manufacturers who license Windows to distribute on new machines)."

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  1. Consumers, not states, brought the case by baronben · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Its interesting that in this case, it was consumners, the artical mentiones a vending company and various other consumers that sued microsoft for price fixing, and not the states suing microsoft for anti-trust violations. This might be an interesting route to go if the State's case somehow gets dismissed or otherwised redered void.

    It would be interesting to see how this would work in other states, but it would be difficult seeing as the case was based on state, not federal, law.

  2. Wow.... by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... Just wait until Windows 2000 is released over there.

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  3. Iowa and Political Power by namespan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Iowa is an interesting state. It's got a relatively small population, which at one point was even the fastest shrinking population of any state in the US -- this in a time of urban sprawl and growth mentality. This could have made it politically marginal, but by cleverly arranging early caucuses there, they're suddenly important.

    One wonders if this isn't another realization of the power of precedent setting, and perhaps a manifestation of that rumored Midwestern common sense. :)

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    1. Re:Iowa and Political Power by BigZaphod · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh crap, our secret is out. Expect a visit from the black-tractors....

  4. The check is not in the mail. by n0ano · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Assuming that MicroSoft actually winds up owing every one is the class $40, a big if, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a check. What do you want to bet that the payout will be in the form of a $40 rebate on your next MS purchase?


    I love the US class action legal system. The lawyers get paid big bucks and the consumers wind up funding a new marketing program that locks them in even tighter to the guilty party!

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  5. Yes, But That In No Way Supercedes State Law by FreeUser · · Score: 5, Informative

    Aren't sales from MS to Iowa residents interstate commerce and thus a matter for Federal antitrust law?

    Yes, they are. They are also subject to state law where they sell their products. Being an interstate transaction adds federal jurisdiction to an already existing state jurisdiction, it does not in any way negate the state's jurisdiction.

    In other words, it adds regulations Microsoft must follow, it doesn't supercede any. Just as California emissions standards apply to automobiles built in Detroit (but sold in California), so to Iowa's antitrust regulations apply to Microsoft's sales in Iowa, regardless of where Micrsoft is headquartered, or the floppies and CDs their shabby OS is distributed on happen to have been printed.

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  6. Good luck! by polymath69 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Don't count on a check. The article says "refunds or credits". What company ever writes a check when it can simply print the money in the form of a coupon?

    That way, they get you coming and going. You paid for the OS you didn't want or need, and you don't intend to buy anything from them in the future anyway, so the coupon will remain unused... Microsoft smiles. The lawyers smile, too, since they got paid. Consumers? Hey, you won, right? Be happy about it.

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  7. It wasn't a decision to force a refund by jmcnamera · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Read the article again, this is the Iowa State Supreme court telling the local court to hear the case.

    It wasn't decided if it was anti-trust or that a refund was due. Only that it should be heard.

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  8. You're all wrong by gidds · · Score: 5, Informative
    As has been said, the first digital computer was Charles Babbage's Analytical Engine, though his design was never fully built (partly because the mechanical engineering of the day wasn't up to the job, and partly because the government stopped funding him).

    As for the first electronic digital computer, that wasn't ENIAC, either. I know you USAns like to think that you invented everything, but Colossus here in the UK beat you by a few years.

    The first binary electronic digital computer was German: Konrad Zuse's Z1.

    And ENIAC wasn't even the first stored-program electronic computer: while ENIAC had to be programmed by plugboard, the Manchester Mark 1, aka `Baby', was storing programs in memory along with data, just as all current machines do.

    Credit where it's due, please :)

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