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The Boy and his Breeder Reactor

scubacuda writes "Here is an interesting tale about a Boy Scout who went a little too far in trying to achieve a merit badge in Atomic Energy. From smoke alarms, lantern components, the paint from radio clocks, and a little help from the Nuclear Regulator Commission, David Hahn attempted to build a nuclear reactor in his mother's shed. Regarding his excessive radioactive exposure, Hahn says, "I don't believe I took more than five years off my life."" While this is an oldish story (1998) it is not the pathetic self congratulatory lame princeton story.

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  1. The Hidden Joke... by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...this was posted in the hardware category.

  2. Yes but... by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 5, Funny


    ...could he split a beer atom?

    1. Re:Yes but... by bugg · · Score: 5, Funny

      The fact that 4 moderators recognized this quote from Young Einstein troubles me. Severely.

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  3. holy shit by tps12 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man, talk about terrible parents. They locked him out of the house because they thought he was making drugs? No wonder he wanted to a-bomb the neighborhood.

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  4. This? Again? Come on, he even posted a reply to /. by LWolenczak · · Score: 5, Informative

    This same basic story was posted about a year ago. Hell, the dude who did it even made a post. Come on people.... Drink more coffee so your memory will be retained for more then an hour.

    Jolt also works.

  5. Interesting but... by jonerik · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's certainly an interesting story. In spite of being an incredibly stupid thing to do, the kid definitely earned his geek merit badge with his little stunt. "You installed Linux on your PS2? Hey, that's great - I built a breeder reactor out of old watches."

    Still, it's an old story. Maybe it's just a slow news day, but how is this particularly newsworthy?

  6. Radiation by sean23007 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I don't believe it took more than 5 years off my life. The amount of years it took off the lives of my offspring, however, is yet to be seen..."

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  7. The Scout Law by datastew · · Score: 5, Funny
    In a final indignity, some area scout leaders attempted (and failed) to deny David his Eagle Scout status, saying that his extracurricular merit-badge activities had endangered the community.

    A Scout is:

    Trustworthy,
    Loyal,
    Helpful,
    Friendly,
    Courteous,
    Kind,
    Obedient,
    Cheerful,
    Thrifty,
    Brave,
    Clean,
    and Reverent.

    I think the only thing they could fault him for is "Clean," but I'd give him bonus points for "Thrifty." Makes me proud to be a Boy Scout.

    1. Re:The Scout Law by Spencerian · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps "Irradiated" might fit now, too.

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  8. heh, heh by smoondog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Quoate 1: Finally, David, whose safety precautions had thus far consisted of wearing a makeshift lead poncho and throwing away his clothes and changing his shoes following a session in the potting shed

    Quote 2: the house was rocked by an explosion in the basement. There they found David lying semiconscious on the floor, his eyebrows smoking. Unaware that red phosphorus is pyrophoric, David had been pounding it with a screwdriver and ignited it.

    Quote 3: David pulverized the ores with a hammer, thinking that he could then use nitric acid to isolate uranium. [...] David made his own [nitric acid] by heating saltpeter and sodium bisulfate, then bubbling the gas that was released through a container of water, producing nitric acid. He then mixed the acid with the powdered ore and boiled it, ending up with something that "looked like a dirty milk shake."

    Quote 4: Another year, David was expelled from camp when [...] he stole a number of smoke detectors to disassemble for parts he required for his experiments.

    This kid is a walking advertisement for the Darwin Awards ...

    -Sean

  9. What would you do with your own atomic reactor? by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 5, Funny
    Just a small list:

    • Pipe the radiation at the nads at those guys who feel the need to drive by your house at 2:30 AM with their base pounding loud enough to shake windows.
    • UPS? We don't need no UPS!
    • Take it to bed with you on those cold, winter nights.
    • Who needs a fridge when you can kill all the bacteria just with putting it in the "shed" out back for a few minutes?
    • For that matter, forget the stove.

  10. This teaches me to trust no one by Ilan+Volow · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yesterday at Wal-mart I saw a suspicious-looking guy wearing a"Death to America" T-shirt buying up all the smoke detectors. I just assumed he was overzealous about fire safety.

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  11. I read this a long time ago by Nf1nk · · Score: 5, Informative

    And at the time I remeber the consensus was that he hadn't made any kind of reactor at all, all he had actualy managed to do was isolate a bunch of radioactive junk and produce a pile of low grade radioactive waste. No fission reaction had been accomplished, nothing useful had been done. Not much had been learned, except that if you quietly bang around in your shed no one will pay much attention until you blow something up or get busted by the cops.

    That and work on his own personal Darwin award

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  12. Yes, this is newsworthy! by tswinzig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I see some people complaining that this story is old, how is it newsworthy. Well let's put it into context with what is going on in the world today. There is a looming threat of dirty bombs being used in the USA. Previously I wasn't too worried, because although I knew the terrorists were good at making bombs, I had assumed it was fairly tough to generate radioactive material that could make them radioactive.

    Then I read a story about a 17-year old kid with not much money and a lot of time generating a heap of radiation.

    Now add hundreds of thousands or even millions in funding, [at least slightly] better equipment, and you might want to wake up.

    But as that lady riding on a New York subway said in a CNN article I read, "If I were really nervous about these terrorists, I'd probably be underground somewhere."

    Ahem.

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  13. Ah, the frustration of searching /. by Raetsel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Good grief!

    I can't believe how difficult it can be to find an older article around this place!

    Slashdot's robots.txt file is comprehensively restrictive, so if I feed Google "David Hahn site:slashdot.org", I get nothing.
    • Dear Cmdr Taco;

      Would you please release (every few months or perhaps annually) a complete archive of Slashdot on CD or DVD? I imagine a simple .tar of the database would be sufficient, as most of your users would be quite capable of handling (and searching) that format. Personally, I think raw articles (no slashboxes, sidebars, etc...) in HTML format would be very useful.

      Since CD/DVD production is relatively inexpensive, this could potentially be a non-trivial source of revenue for /.

      Alternatively, perhaps Google could be convinced to donate one of their search appliances? Since many of us are quite proficient and familiar with Google's operation, it would make searching our collective memory that much easier.

      Further, if a donation from Google is not possible, there are likely many of us who would be willing to donate to a search appliance fund.

      Please, PLEASE consider these (and any other!) options to improve Slashdot searching.

      Sincerely,
      Raetsel.

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  14. Best Internet Geek Legend? by istartedi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OK, reactor boy is great. Is it better than the JATO car story? I'd call this a genre, but I can only think of these two stories. Then of course there are "geek legends" that are actually true, like the guy who built the roller-coaster in Indiana. Can anybody think of more geek legends, if we can think of enough then there could be a poll.

    Note, mere "hacking" doesn't qualify. In order to be a geek legend, you have to be a single person, or perhaps a very small group, you have to be outside the corporate setting, you have to work with a technology that is dangerous and thought to be beyond the scope of what such a group can deal with. For example, concoct a story about a guy who built a submarine in his garage, took it out to sea, and penetrated a carrier battle group. Nobody can verify it because the Navy immediatly classified his plans, moved the model to storage, and ordered him to clam up (under threat of treason charges) for national security reasons because the plans might allow enemies to penetrate carrier groups. If you want to author such a story, feel free to take this idea and flesh it out. Post it to /.. I think we would all enjoy it.

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  15. Not fake. by Pathwalker · · Score: 5, Informative
    I went to high school with Dave when this was going on. (I graduated from Chippewa Valley High School in 1994). I can tell you that the following facts are true.
    • He was in Boy Scouts (I was in troop 371 with him)
    • He was always into strange experiments, from making thermite, to building large batteries to give people shocks.
    • At one point in high school, he became very interested in radioactive decay, and the reactions that can transform one isotope into another.
    • Shortly after that, he started showing off many giger counters, bits of metal with radiation symbols etched into them, and other items when we met for lunch.
    • He knew chemestry pretty well, although he was not always that careful. (he used to reclaim silver from discared film for extra money)
    • As we both messed around with electronics, I gave him a catalog from a slavage yard with crates of dozen of different items that had been left out in the rain. They were selling dead smoke detectors for really really cheap.
    • He brought in a opened Americum container from a smoke detector to lunch one day. At this point, I stopped sitting near him in class, and at lunch, and started calling him "Glow Boy".
    • About a month into my Freshman year at college, I got a phone call from him. He said that he had just been raided by the EPA and the NRC, and that he needed to know what the name of that salvage yard had been.

    Now, the rumor I heard for how he was caught was the following:

    He had to move his experiments somewhere besides that shed, so he filled the trunk of his car with the material. On his way to school, he had to drive over a railroad crossing. Apparently there was some sort of radiation sensor by the track, and it started tripping twice a day, always at the same time.

    The other rumor I had heard, was that he had given up, and had given most of the radioactive material to a friend who wanted to keep experimenting shortly before he was raided.