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The Boy and his Breeder Reactor

scubacuda writes "Here is an interesting tale about a Boy Scout who went a little too far in trying to achieve a merit badge in Atomic Energy. From smoke alarms, lantern components, the paint from radio clocks, and a little help from the Nuclear Regulator Commission, David Hahn attempted to build a nuclear reactor in his mother's shed. Regarding his excessive radioactive exposure, Hahn says, "I don't believe I took more than five years off my life."" While this is an oldish story (1998) it is not the pathetic self congratulatory lame princeton story.

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  1. Another Post by L0rdkariya · · Score: -1

    for the CLIT !

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    1. Re:Another Post by Sexual+Asspussy · · Score: -1

      okay. i see you get FP like, all the time, and i wonder if you're employing a script to help you along...

    2. Re:Another Post by L0rdkariya · · Score: -1

      No scripts. I really can't explain it. I'll just be like, time for a first post, and 20 seconds later a new story is up. I only refreshed once for this FP. I think it has to do with the CLiT... and also making sure I post at exactly 20 seconds.

      CLIT!

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    3. Re:Another Post by Sexual+Asspussy · · Score: -1

      very inspiring! CLIT power all the way!

      here's some porn

      "I don't know," Penney sighed, setting her tray on the table. "Sometimes I think these boys are coming on to me."

      "Of course they are," replied the older man seated across from her. "When you've taught as long as I have, you'll be used to it."

      "Really?"

      He laughed at the tone in her voice. "Don't sound so astonished, Miss Clarke. Even fat, balding fellows such as myself get it. And you," he continued, "are young and attractive."

      "But...how do you deal with it?"

      "Ignore them, usually. I couldn't tell you how many times some girl has leaned over my shoulder at my desk and pressed her breasts against me. It's just 'tease-the-teacher' most of the time. Still," he added, becoming serious, "full-blown infatuations can occur. I've received a few passionate love-letters from students. The thing then is to ask to have the writer removed from my class, quietly and without making a fuss."

      Penney nodded. "Thank you, Jim. There is so much about being in the classroom that I never learned in college...what IS this stuff we're eating?"

      * * *

      Penney Clarke glanced up at the clock again. Like every student in the room, she had been watching the minutes tick by. Throughout her last class of the day--her last class of the week--the young English teacher had found herself daydreaming. Dominic would be driving down from Atlanta to be with her for the weekend.

      Her sweet Dominic--the two of them had dated since college and sometimes, lately, the relationship seemed to fall into familiar friendship. Tonight and tomorrow she intended to re-ignite the passion they had once shared. He would arrive late, to find a candlelit dinner awaiting him. And for dessert...she smiled at the thought of that!

      "Hand in your work as you leave," Penney told her students, "and have a good weekend." They surged toward the door as the bell rang, leaving a disorderly stack of stack of papers on her desk. No after-school duties were assigned to her this week, so turning to the computer on a side table, she began to check her messages.

      "Dearest Penney," Dom's e-mail began. That was an unusual greeting from him; normally, it was "Hi kid" or something equally informal. "I have given this a great deal of thought. We no longer seem right as a couple and I think we should stop seeing each other. Please understand and try to move on. There will be other experiences in your life." Experiences? Is that all I was to him, she wondered, just an experience?

      "It would be best if I did not come tonight. In time, we can meet again as friends, I hope." Fat chance...she felt tears coming into her eyes. "Take care, Dominic."

      The young woman's shoulders began to shake. Sobs rose from deep within her.

      "Miss Clarke? Is something wrong?" It was the voice of Ron Thomas, a senior from the last class. "Oh," the boy began, after taking a quick look at the screen. "I'm so sorry." Ron was one of those bright, outgoing students who can be both a bane and a blessing to his teachers: always ready to help, but a little too eager to get involved in other people's lives. "I'll give you some privacy, ma'am," he told her in a low voice. "Will you be alright?" Penney nodded her head mutely.

      Then, realizing what sort of impression she was making on the boy, she forced herself to smile and respond, "Oh, sure. Thank you for caring; I'll be fine. Did you need something, Ron?"

      "I only forgot a book." He turned to go, but hesitated. "Miss Clarke?" Turning toward Penney again, he continued. "That guy..." He suddenly blushed. "Ma'am, he shouldn't have treated you that way."

      "You've never dumped a girlfriend, Ron?" She gave him the smallest of smiles.

      "Not like that, ma'am." He stated emphatically. Penney could believe him; the boy was of that vanishing breed of polite, honorable youngster that could still be found in some small towns. "Miss Clark, would you care to go to the baseball game with me tonight?" he blurted out.

      The young teacher laughed. "Taking pity on me, Ron? Well, why not? I'm certainly not doing anything else!"

      * * *

      What am I doing? Penney asked herself. She had never been a fan of sports and had avoided attending any school athletics up to this point. Now, she was not only going to a ball game, but doing so in the company of a student. Well, every kid in school will know Ms. Clarke can't get a date on a Friday night.

      Looking at herself in the mirror, she wondered why that was so. I'm attractive enough, she told herself. Not much in the way of curves, perhaps, yet well shaped. Tall. Lean. Long legs...a tight stomach...decent breasts, even if they didn't precede her by much. A pleasant, oval face framed by straw-blonde curls. There was no point in dressing up tonight. She would just throw on some jeans, a loose shirt. Skip the makeup.

      Sitting on the end of the bed to pull on a pair of athletic shoes, she smiled at how enormous they made her feet look. Penney Clarke did not have petite extremities; she recalled a joking rhyme her younger brother used to repeat: You're a poet, and didn't know it, but your feet show it--they're long fellows! It never bothered her; she was rather proud of them. Being called a poet was quite acceptable as well; there had been aspirations.

      But now she was a first-year high school English teacher who had just been dumped by the only man she had ever loved or ever made love to. Candles lined up on the dresser, ranks of little soldiers in varicolored uniforms, awaited a night mission that would not come. Oh, well.

      The sound of a car door closing brought her out of her reverie. Penney peeked through the curtain to see an old Honda in the lime-rock drive. Ron was walking toward her front door.

      Suddenly self-conscious about allowing the boy to see the interior of the modest trailer she inhabited, Penney opened the door and stepped out. "I'm ready," she announced. It was still light, and warm, on this late spring evening in north Florida. Slapping at a mosquito, she remarked, "I hope they're not this thick at the game. Are the bugs usually bad there?"

      "Um, I don't really know, ma'am. I've...never gone to a game."

      "Really? Aren't you a fan of our Eagles?" She looked him over: a slender, studious boy, not an athlete himself and unlikely to be a fan of the local jocks. "Do you really want to go, Ron? I'd just as soon stay here."

      With a disappointed expression, the young man answered, "Miss Clarke, whatever you want to do is fine with me. I'll just take off."

      "No, no, Ron. I meant both of us stay here." She laughed with the first real pleasure she had felt in hours at the way his face brightened. "Come on in; I'll call for a pizza."

      * * *

      "It's only a month till graduation, Ron. What are your plans? A good college, I hope."

      The boy wiped cheese from his chin. "College? Yes, but not a very good one. Just the community college over in Madison." He gave her a level look with his hazel-green eyes. "That way I can work for my dad."

      "He's a builder, right? You don't strike me as a construction worker, Ron."

      He shrugged his shoulders. "It's the easiest way to go and in a year or two I'll transfer to some other school--maybe the University of Florida. Anyway," he continued, with a shy smile, "I can hold my own on the job." Almost unconsciously, he flexed his arm.

      "Oh?" Penney reached out and gave his biceps a squeeze. "So I see." Ron blushed quite red. "I didn't mean to embarrass you," she quickly assured him. But Penney could not resist adding, impishly, "Aren't you used to girls wanting to feel those muscles?"

      He shook his head. "I don't date that much, Miss Clarke."

      Of course not, she thought, just like me in high school. "Well," she responded, "consider me your date tonight."

      "I'm honored," he replied. "In fact...well, don't take this the wrong way, ma'am, but, um, in a month I won't be a student anymore, and, um..." He swallowed. "I...would you mind if...I asked you out sometime?"

      She did some quick math in her head. He's eighteen. I'm twenty-three. Five years isn't a big difference, is it? Oh, no, what am I thinking!

      "It wouldn't look right, Ron. Maybe in a couple years." She narrowed her eyes quizzically. "Would you really want to date me?"

      He nodded soberly. "Yes, I would." He turned his head toward the radio, where a slow love ballad had just started playing and suddenly grinned. Rising to his feet, Ron asked, "Miss Clark, may I have this dance?" He reached out to take her hands and pull her up to him.

      Ron was only an inch or so taller than she, so they were eye to eye, lips to lips, as she put her arms around his slender waist. We shouldn't be dancing this closely, she told herself, and pulled him closer. With sudden alarm she realized that his manhood, pressed tight against her, was rising like a flood on the Suwannee.

      She moved away, making a quick excuse. "These shoes are getting in my way." She sat down; Ron immediately kneeled at her feet.

      "Then we'll get them out of the way," he told Penney, unlacing one and sliding it off. Ron ran his hand across the arch of her foot. She shuddered with involuntary pleasure; her feet had always been sensitive. The boy immediately recognized that fact and wasted no time in removing the other shoe.

      "You need a massage," he remarked, kneading her soles with his long fingers. A sigh of pleasure escaped her lips. He looked up at her with unmistakable adoration.

      How long has he had the hots for me? the young teacher wondered.

      "Oh, thank you, Ron. That's wonderful," she told him, patting a spot on the sofa. "Come sit beside me." He did not hesitate; within seconds they were in each other's arms.

      "Umh, Miss Clarke," he mumbled between kisses.

      "Call me Penney," she panted in reply.

      He repeated the name. "Penney." A long kiss followed, with an exploratory tongue slipping into her mouth. "Penney."

      He'd be a great kisser with a little practice. He certainly has the instincts.

      Their legs had become entangled, one of hers between his, one over the top, while sliding from upright to horizontal. She could feel his engorged penis against her thigh. His hand had found its way up the back of her tee shirt and toyed ineptly with her bra strap.

      Suddenly she pulled away from him and stood. For one indecisive moment Penney looked at this eager boy, wondering whether she should send him home before things went further. Then she reached down to take his hand and said, "Come with me."

      * * *

      The flames of a dozen candles flickered in the breeze of a slowly turning ceiling fan. Ron had stood quietly in the doorway while she lit them, uncertain about entering the room. Not surprising, she thought, I very much doubt he's been in many women's bedrooms. Suddenly, she wondered, has he ever?

      Well, if this was his first time, she intended to make it truly special. The thought excited her. Not that I am all that experienced she admitted to herself. One man...and I suspect he wasn't that good. It was time to find out what else the world had to offer!

      "I had a special dessert planned for someone else," she told Ron, reaching out for his hand, "but now it's all yours." He let himself be led into the twilit room. "First I need a little something to snack on myself." His lips hungrily met her own. Sliding her fingers up his chest, Penney realized that his rodeo shirt had snaps rather than buttons and took sudden inspiration. With one yank, she had it open to his trim, muscular waist.

      The young woman pulled back slightly to see what she had uncovered. Smooth, tanned, tight but not bulky...it was in complete contrast to Dominic's thick, hairy torso. "Yummy. Let me have a taste," she quipped, before raining kisses across his chest. Penney's lips found an erect nipple; he shook with ecstasy as her tongue toyed with it.

      She felt Ron's hands slide down her back, grasp the bottom of her tee and begin to pull it up. Penney lifted her arms and let it slide off easily over her head, before returning to her oral ministrations. She heard his breath draw in sharply.

      "Is this new to you, Ron?" she asked. "Honestly. I don't mind." He nodded his head. "There is more of you I want to taste," she teased, "and I'm sure you'd like to sample a few things yourself." She looked down at her chest. Her own nipples were quite obviously standing tall through her thin sports bra. Then she gazed into Ron's eyes and asked, "Ready to feast?"

      "I've never felt hungrier," he told her, his voice filled with the passion and longing of long unsatisfied appetites. The youth pulled his shirt off and threw it onto a chair. Penney smiled at that; Dom would have dropped it on the floor.

      "Then enjoy." She unhooked her bra, baring small but shapely breasts with pert, "manly" nipples. His mouth immediately found them, as his hands roamed across her smooth fair skin. His touch was light--sensitive, almost tentative, fingertips exploring a new world of senses. "Oh, Ron," she breathed, "come to my bed."

      "Miss...Penney...do you know how I have dreamed of this?"

      She smiled mischievously. "Is that what was on your mind when you daydreamed through class?"

      "Yep," he sheepishly answered, "mostly."

      "Time for a new class. Is my student ready?" His lips were already traveling across her shoulders. "Ummm, obviously he is!"

      The half-clad pair half sat-half fell onto the bed, never loosening their embrace. Penney's hand found his zipper and slowly slid the fly open. Questing fingers probed his jeans. "We must get these off of you," she murmured. "I need room to work."

      "Yours, too," he whispered in reply, so low she could barely catch the words. "Yours, too."

      "Okay," she agreed, kissing his forehead. Such a sweet boy.

      Penney rolled onto her back, allowing the young man to bend over her, unbutton her jeans and slowly pull them down. Suddenly he laughed. Oh, no, I forgot I was wearing my Tweety and Sylvester panties.

      "Behave," she warned him with a giggle of her own, "or I'll laugh when your pants come off too!"

      "Yes, ma'am, Miss Clarke. No more cutting up in class." He lowered his lips to her abdomen and let his tongue investigate her navel. "Let me..." Fingers slipped under the waistband of her panties, ran through the fine, fair thatch to find her moist lips. "Wow."

      Penney giggled. "I'm glad you like it." She lifted her buttocks off the bed. "Why don't you slide them off and get a better look?" He lost no time in pulling both jeans and panties completely off; once again he tossed them toward a chair. They missed, but he didn't notice.

      Standing at the foot of the bed, Ron gazed at the nude body before him. A few hours earlier, this had been his teacher, unattainable save in his daydreams. He savored the beauty of the long, lithe limbs, the tight waist, the dark blonde curls at her crotch. He longed to devour those sweet, taut breasts, to kiss the valley that lay between, follow it north and south, to the delights of both pairs of lips.

      Penney raised herself on an elbow. "Not sure where to begin? Come here and we'll start your lesson." And, she mused, I'm learning a few new things here myself!

      She sat up, now, hanging her legs over the edge of the bed. "First to get these out of the way," she said, half to herself, as she undid his jeans and let them fall from his slim hips. "And then we see...what we see." She looked up at him. "Don't be nervous, honey. I'll take good care of you."

      "I'll...try to take good care of you, too, Penney."

      "Yes, Ron, I'm sure you will." She caressed his erection through the cotton briefs. It stirred at her touch like a nervous animal. Slowly, carefully, Penney peeled the pants down. The boy's manhood popped out as if spring-loaded, painfully erect, its head glistening from anticipatory secretions. Not as big as Dominic. That was the only criterion she had to go by; she had never viewed another man's up close. Well...maybe just as long...but not as thick.

      She tasted it, letting the tip of her tongue slip into the tip of his rod. "Oh...my God!" Ron gasped, and grasped two handfuls of hair.

      "No, your goddess," Penney corrected, letting herself slip off the bed to kneel on the floor before him. "Hold on tight," she chuckled, as she engulfed his penis. Eagerly, the youth began to thrust into her mouth. "Slow down, baby," she told him, pulling back. "We have all night."

      "Umm, okay...I've never stayed out all night."

      "New experiences all around," she said, mostly to herself, as she allowed her tongue to travel the length of his silken shaft. He let her do as she wished now, with only the occasional somewhat involuntary thrust of the loins. Hmm, she thought, he has good control. Dom would have blown long ago. She sucked greedily until she felt him becoming even fuller within her mouth, ready to climax.

      "I...I think...I'm going to..." Penney felt the hot, thick fluid burst into her mouth, across her face, as Ron reached an explosive orgasm. He looked down, shame-faced.

      "Oh, I'm sorry." He acted as if he had committed a crime.

      "For giving me such a nice treat?" Penney asked. "Better than an apple for the teacher any day! Come here." She pulled him down to her. Wiping some of his semen from her lips, she smeared it across his face. "Kiss me," she demanded.

      This is so kinky. I've never done anything like this before. This is the first time I've...been in charge!

      Their mouths met in a deep, sticky kiss. "My turn," said Ron. "Let me know if I'm doing it right, okay?"

      With her shoulders against the bed, he placed his hands beneath her hips and lifted her to his lips. "Yes," she sighed, "suck on it. Oh...oh, yes...use your tongue. What's that...your nose?"

      "Yep." The boy lifted his head and grinned. "I read that in the Kama Sutra."

      "Was that assigned reading? I must put it on the list for my special students!" She leaned forward and rubbed her face into his luxuriant dark curls, kissing the top of his head. "Let's get into bed." She rose to her feet and fell back onto the mattress. Ron started to climb atop her. "No, no, my boy, not yet. You have to finish your homework first. Use that magical mouth of yours."

      Obligingly, the young man place his head between her thighs, legs draped across his shoulders. As his tongue played games, she felt a finger slip inside and probe for that special place. Well, all guys know about that, I guess. Then she felt another finger gently applying pressure at her anus.

      "Is it okay to do that, Penney? If it hurts, I'll stop."

      "That's...nice, Ron. Go ahead..." It slipped in a bit further. "Oh...oh...my." She craned her head to give him a look. "Did I give you a bath?"

      "Only a sweet drink, ma'am. Just the thing for a hot, thirsty boy."

      "Come up here, Ron. Will you hold me?" she asked. "Just hold me for a moment."

      "For a moment or forever." He fitted himself in on Penney's right side, as if he had always belonged there, curve into curve. Gently, he kissed the pale freckled shoulder on which he snuggled his head.

      Am I insane? she wondered. I could lose my job...I could never teach again. She looked at the sweet boyish face once more. And I wouldn't care.

      Ron's fingers began to walk across her stomach. She grabbed his hand, raised it to her lips, and placed it on her breast. He cupped it gently, caressing the hard nipple with supple fingertips. One of his legs began to slide along the inside of her thigh. She reached down; yes, he was more than ready to go again.

      "Ron?" she whispered.

      "What is it...Penney?" He sounded as though he had intended to use an endearment but thought better of it.

      "I know this is your first time," she stated.

      She could see him nod his head by the candlelight.

      "Don't be afraid...I...I am not all that experienced myself," she blurted out. Suddenly, she began to sob. "Dominic was the only man I ever loved...ever loved...in any sense of the word. I want...to thank you for being so sweet...whether it is for only one night or we...oh, who knows what might be...hold me tighter."

    4. Re:Another Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow !
      Mystic faggot powers.
      Do you see a pink aura on your first posts ?

  2. FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    SUCK MY C.L.I.T.

  3. really old by Datasage · · Score: 1

    I remember reading this in the readers digest a few years ago.

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    1. Re:really old by dfn5 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yup, me too. It's a little old when Reader's Digest gets the jump on Slashdot.

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    2. Re:really old by JPriest · · Score: 1

      I think that guy is 35+ and works for NASA now? Or was that someone else?

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    3. Re:really old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he works for the Navy, but I read the article quite a while ago.

    4. Re:really old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aye! And now microsoft is advertising here.

      I hear something that sounds like a giant toilet flushing. Could it be? No.

      Yes, it's flushdot.

    5. Re:really old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yup, i still have it sitting around here somewhere. I remember pulling the article out.

    6. Re:really old by Easy2RememberNick · · Score: 1

      Hey I read that too! I was looking for old smoke detectors, aluminum pie plates and lithium batteries for weeks. Then I decided...nah.

      ...but imagine having your own reactor powered computer! Or a Ghostbuster back pack for catching ghosts ;-P

      The guy who did it should read the article on the Thyroid that was made from stem cells, he may need it...soon.

    7. Re:really old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you'd read the article, he was 15 in 1995... That makes him 22/23 now. So, I guess if you're REALLY young, then yes, he's really old now.

    8. Re:really old by SWTP · · Score: 1

      I though I saw this here a few months ago?

    9. Re:really old by Woefdram · · Score: 1

      Well, I remember having read this on /. before, and not a few years ago, one year at most. But agree, it's an interesting story :)

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    10. Re:really old by mikerich · · Score: 1
      I think he works for the Navy, but I read the article quite a while ago.

      Let's just hope he isn't working in the nuclear fleet. :)

      Best wishes,
      Mike.
    11. Re:really old by fstanchina · · Score: 1

      but imagine having your own reactor powered computer!

      Or your own core meltdown, for that matter.
  4. frost pist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    It hurts and stuff -- propz to all AC FP'ers like myself!

  5. 1st post? by slasher999 · · Score: -1, Troll

    I had to try just once!

  6. The Hidden Joke... by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...this was posted in the hardware category.

  7. Kind of Old by clarkgoble · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why would Slashdot put this as news when it happened years ago and most of us remember it? I mean I'd be all for this story if it was new - but a magazine from 1998? What happened? Find a Harper's while at the doctor's office? Next up: a Slashdot story on the WTC bombing.

    1. Re:Kind of Old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Standard /. practise. Like advertising Mozilla 1.0 release after announcing an IIS issue. Watch next posts and you won't get surprised...

    2. Re:Kind of Old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One reason it is probably topical again is thanks to Padilla, the alleged "dirty bomber."

      I guess it shows that given enough ingenuity and guts, anyone could conceivably get their hands on nuclear material.

    3. Re:Kind of Old by ocbwilg · · Score: 2

      Why would Slashdot put this as news when it happened years ago and most of us remember it?

      I had never heard of it and found it a quite interesting read.

  8. CLIT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    What, exactly, is 'CLIT'?
    (I know I'm going to regret asking.)

    1. Re:CLIT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      uhhh.. jay and silent bob strike back related perhaps?

    2. Re:CLIT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Cum Loving Idiot Teenagers

    3. Re:CLIT? by gazbo · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Campaign for Logged In Trolls

      As opposed to Anonymous Cumgarglers who also try (and usually fail) to get FP.

      Note for moderators - this post should be moderated to +5 informative.

    4. Re:CLIT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Communist Loosers In Turd

  9. Leonard Nimoy dead at 66 by CofWheat · · Score: -1

    Famed actor was found dead today at his Studio City CA home of a drug overdose. ***Breaking***

    1. Re:Leonard Nimoy dead at 66 by CmdrTaco+(troll) · · Score: -1


      He ain't dead, but this guy sure is.

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    2. Re:Leonard Nimoy dead at 66 by GafTheHorseInTears · · Score: 0

      Truly an American icon.

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    3. Re:Leonard Nimoy dead at 66 by negativekarmanow+tm · · Score: -1

      He's not dead, he's pining for the fjords.

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  10. Yeah, nobody's heard of this before... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
  11. This screams urban legend ... by dougmc · · Score: 3, Informative
    ... but as far as I can tell, it's not.

    There's several references to it everywhere, here's another.

    1. Re:This screams urban legend ... by Eil · · Score: 2


      Nope, no urban legend. I think Readers Digest may have had a blurb on it even.

      But it is old news. I'm certain I've seen this posted on slashdot at least twice before.

    2. Re:This screams urban legend ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is an urban legend, which doesn't necessarily mean it's false. However, the claims are pretty exaggerated. Run a search on "Harper's reactor" or something similar in alt.folklore.urban on Google Groups and you'll come up with a couple of (quite long) thread discussing this story.

    3. Re:This screams urban legend ... by Go_Ask_Alex · · Score: 1

      It's real, I know guys who worked on the cleanup and I was consulted on it at one point. It's great to see a comprehensive write-up now (however old) since there wasn't much press about it at the time.

    4. Re:This screams urban legend ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a Scienific American Article in its original incarnation

      te title was "radioactive boyscout" but 98 seems a smidge late

      unfortunately the ref is at work- i hand this out to my freshman chem class every year when they start with 'we can't do this"

    5. Re:This screams urban legend ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You worked with guys on the cleanup, I worked with Hahn after he joined the Navy. He's an asshole, and not a particularly competent one at that.

    6. Re:This screams urban legend ... by 3rd_Floo · · Score: 1

      Well, whether or not he is one I couldn't say, but with the amount of hazardous particles he absorbed, what could you expect? He thinks he might of lost a few years off his life, I'm sure that's not the only thing that will be effected... I wonder if Geiger counters go wild around him...

    7. Re:This screams urban legend ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah, I have both of you beat. I screwed his ex-girlfriend and his mother. They were both bad lays.

    8. Re:This screams urban legend ... by Systems+Curmudgeon · · Score: 1

      OKAY, can someone really point to a specific Scientific American article that precedes the Harper's story? I searched carefully on the web, and I think the Harper's story is a made-up spoof. Almost all web references (there are now so many it WILL be an urban legend) either refer back to the Harper's article or copy its wording in big gobs. One web site has a picture of Hahn, but it copies the Harper's text, and the picture does not match the text description of what Hahn looks like. (Text: blue eyed and blond; picture: dark eyed and dark haired.) The Michigan state list of superfund cleanups does not inlcude this one! Take a look! http://www.michigan.gov/deq/1,1607,7-135-3311_4109 ---,00.html Also ask yourself how a man with a history of blowing things up and terrbile health prospects gets (and keeps) a job on a Nuclear ship in the Navy, which will have to pay (eventually) for all his interesting health costs. I'm also curious about the guide "Goin' Fission" mentioned in the article. It was my failure to find this guide that originally raised my suspicions; This guide could be for real, but you won't find it by searching the American Nuclear Society's web site.

  12. clearly by tcd004 · · Score: 2

    This kid didn't learn to obey the rules of
    Military Intelligence

    tcd004

  13. it will be slashdotted ... here is the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant

    Harper's Magazine Nov, 1998 The radioactive boy scout: when a teenager attempts to build a breeder reactor. (case of David Hahn who managed to secure materials and equipment from businesses and information from government officials to develop an atomic energy radiation project for his Boy Scout merit-badge) Author/s: Ken Silverstein When a teenager attempts to build a breeder reactor There is hardly a boy or a girl alive who is not keenly interested in finding out about things. And that's exactly what chemistry is: Finding out about things--finding out what things are made of and what changes they undergo. What things? Any thing! Every thing! --The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments Golf Manor is the kind of place where nothing unusual is supposed to happen, the kind of place where people live precisely because it is more than 25 miles outside of Detroit and all the complications attendant on that city. The kind of place where money buys a bit more land, perhaps a second bathroom, and so reassures residents that they're safely in the bosom of the middle class. Every element of Golf Manor invokes one form of security or another, beginning with the name of the subdivision itself--taken from the 18 hole course at its entrance--and the community in which it is nestled, Commerce Township. The houses and trees are both old and varied enough to make Golf Manor feel more like a neighborhood than a subdivision, and the few features that do convey subdivision--a sign at the entrance saying "We have many children but none to spare. Please drive carefully"--have a certain Back to the Future charm. Most Golf Manor residents remain there until they die, and then they are replaced by young couples with kids. In short, it is the kind of place where, on a typical day, the only thing lurking around the corner is a Mister Softee ice-cream truck. But June 26, 1995, was not a typical day. Ask Dottie Pease. As she turned down Pinto Drive, Pease saw eleven men swarming across her carefully manicured lawn. Their attention seemed to be focused on the back yard of the house next door, specifically on a large wooden potting shed that abutted the chain-link fence dividing her property from her neighbor's. Three of the men had donned ventilated moon suits and were proceeding to dismantle the potting shed with electric saws, stuffing the pieces of wood into large steel drums emblazoned with radioactive warning signs. Pease had never noticed anything out of the ordinary at the house next door. A middle-aged couple, Michael Polasek and Patty Hahn, lived there. On some weekends, they were joined by Patty's teenage son, David. As she huddled with a group of nervous neighbors, though, Pease heard one resident claim to have awoken late one night to see the potting shed emitting an eerie glow. "I was pretty disturbed," Pease recalls. "I went inside and called my husband. I said, `Da-a-ve, there are men in funny suits walking around out here. You've got to do something.'" What the men in the funny suits found was that the potting shed was dangerously irradiated and that the area's 40,000 residents could be at risk. Publicly, the men in white promised the residents of Golf Manor that they had nothing to fear, and to this day neither Pease nor any of the dozen or so people I interviewed knows the real reason that the Environmental Protection Agency briefly invaded their neighborhood. When asked, most mumble something about a chemical spill. The truth is far more bizarre: the Golf Manor Superfund cleanup was provoked by the boy next door, David Hahn, who attempted to build a nuclear breeder reactor in his mother's potting shed as part of a Boy Scout merit-badge project. It seems remarkable that David's story hasn't already wended its way through all forms of journalism and become the stuff of legend, but at the time the EPA refused to give out David's name, and although a few local reporters learned it, neither he nor any family members agreed to be interviewed. Even the federal and state officials who oversaw the cleanup learned only a small part of what took place in the potting shed at Golf Manor because David, fearing legal repercussions, told them almost nothing about his experiments. Then in 1996, Jay Gourley, a correspondent with the Natural Resources News Service in Washington, D.C., came across a tiny newspaper item about the case and contacted David Hahn. Gourley later passed on his research to me, and I subsequently interviewed the story's protagonists, including David--now a twenty-two-year-old sailor stationed in Norfolk, Virginia. I met with David in the hope of making sense not only of his experiments but of him. The archetypal American suburban boy learns how to hit a fadeaway jump shot, change a car's oil, perform some minor carpentry feats. If he's a Boy Scout he masters the art of starting a fire by rubbing two sticks together, and if he's a typical adolescent pyro, he transforms tennis-ball cans into cannons. David Hahn taught himself to build a neutron gun. He figured out a way to dupe officials at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission into providing him with crucial information he needed in his attempt to build a breeder reactor, and then he obtained and purified radioactive elements such as radium and thorium. I had seen childhood photographs of David in which he looked perfectly normal, even angelic, with blond hair and hazel-green eyes, and, as he grew older, gangly limbs and a peach-fuzz mustache. Still, when I went to meet him in Norfolk, I was anticipating some physical manifestation of brilliance or obsession. An Einstein or a Kaczynski. But all I saw was a beefier version of the clean-cut kid in the pictures. David's manner was oddly dispassionate, though polite, until we began to discuss his nuclear adventures. Then, for five hours, lighting and grinding out cigarettes for emphasis, David enthused about laboring in his backyard laboratory. He told me how he used coffee filters and pickle jars to handle deadly substances such as radium and nitric acid, and he sheepishly divulged the various cover stories and aliases he employed to obtain the radioactive materials. A shy and withdrawn teenager, David had confided in only a few friends about his project and never allowed anyone to witness his experiments. His breeder-reactor project was a means--albeit an unorthodox one--of escaping the trauma of adolescence. "I was very emotional as a kid," he told me, "and those experiments gave me a way to get away from that. They gave me some respect." You--Scientist! --The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments, Chapter 10 In The Making of the Atomic Bomb, Richard Rhodes notes that the psychological profiles of pioneering American physicists are remarkably similar. Frequently the eldest son of an emotionally remote, professional man, he--almost all were men--was a voracious reader during childhood, tended to feel lonely, and was shy and aloof from classmates. David's parents, Ken and Patty Hahn, divorced when he was a toddler. Ken is an automotive engineer for General Motors, as is his second wife, Kathy Missig, whom he married soon after the divorce. David lived with his father and stepmother in a small split-level home in suburban Clinton Township, about thirty miles north of Detroit. Ken Hahn worked extraordinarily long hours for GM. With close-cropped hair and a proclivity for short-sleeved dress shirts, Ken radiates a coolness that, combined with his constant preoccupation, must have been confounding to a child. When asked about his undemonstrative nature, Ken attributes it to his German ancestry. Yet for all his starchiness, it was Kathy who was David's chief disciplinarian. David spent weekends and holidays with his mother and her boyfriend, Michael Polasek, an amiable but hard-drinking retired forklift operator at GM. Golf Manor is demographically similar to Clinton Township, but the two households could not have been more different emotionally. Patty Hahn committed suicide in the house a few years ago, but Michael still lives there surrounded by pictures of her. ("She was a beautiful person," he says. "She was my whole life.") He keeps five cats and a spotless household, and looks like a member of Sha Na Na. Despite the fact that David was shuffled between households, his early years were seemingly ordinary. He played baseball and soccer, joined the Boy Scouts, and spent endless hours exploring with his friends. An abrupt change came at the age of ten, when Kathy's father, also an engineer for GM, gave David The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments. The book promised to open doors to a brave new world--"Chemistry means the difference between poverty and starvation and the abundant life," it stated with unwavering optimism--and offered instructions on how to set up a home laboratory and conduct experiments ranging from simple evaporation and filtration to making rayon and alcohol. David swiftly became immersed and by age twelve was digesting his father's college chemistry textbooks without difficulty. When he spent the night at Golf Manor, his mother would often wake to find him asleep on the livingroom floor surrounded by open volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica. In his father's house, David set up a laboratory in his small bedroom, where the shelves are still lined with books such as Prudent Practices for Handling Hazardous Chemicals in Laboratories and The Story of Atomic Energy. He bought beakers, Bunsen burners, test tubes, and other items commonly found in a child's chemistry set. David, though, was not conducting the typical adolescent experiments. By fourteen, an age at which most boys with a penchant for chemistry are conducting rudimentary gunpowder experiments, David had fabricated nitroglycerine. David's parents admired his interest in science but were alarmed by the chemical spills and blasts that became a regular event at the Hahn household. After David destroyed his bedroom--the walls were badly pocked, and the carpet was so stained that it had to be ripped out--Ken and Kathy banished his experiments to the basement. Which was fine with David. Science allowed him to distance himself from his parents, to create and destroy things, to break the rules, and to escape into something he was a success at, while sublimating a teenager's sense of failure, anger, and embarrassment into some really big explosions. David held a series of after-school jobs at fast-food joints, grocery stores, and furniture warehouses, but work was merely a means of financing his experiments. Never an enthusiastic student and always a horrific speller, David fell behind in school. During his junior year at Chippewa Valley High School--at a time when he was secretly conducting nuclear experiments in his back yard--David nearly failed state math and reading tests required for graduation (though he aced the test in science). Ken Gherardini, who taught David conceptual physics, remembers him as an excellent pupil on the rare occasions when he was interested in classwork but otherwise indifferent to his studies. "His dream in life was to collect a sample of every element on the periodic table," Gherardini told me with a laugh during an interview at Chippewa Valley before his 8:20 A.M. class. "I don't know about you, but my dream at that age was to buy a car." David's scientific preoccupation left less and less time for friends, though throughout much of high school he did have a girlfriend, Heather Beaudette, three years his junior. Heather says he was sweet and caring (she once returned from a weeklong trip to Florida to find a pile of lengthy love letters) but not always the perfect date. Heather's mom, Donna Bunnell, puts it this way: "He was a nice kid and always presentable, but [in the days before her second wedding] we had to tell him not to talk to anybody. He could eat and drink but, for God's sake, don't talk to the guests about the food's chemical composition." Not even his scout troop was spared David's scientific enthusiasm. He once appeared at a scout meeting with a bright orange face caused by an overdose of canthaxanthin, which he was taking to test methods of artificial tanning. One summer at scout camp, David's fellow campers blew a hole in the communal tent when they accidentally ignited the stockpile of powdered magnesium he had brought to make fireworks. Another year, David was expelled from camp when--while most of his friends were sneaking into the nearby Girl Scouts' camp--he stole a number of smoke detectors to disassemble for parts he required for his experiments. "Our summer vacation was screwed up when we got a call telling us to pick David up early from camp," his stepmother recalls with a sigh. Up to this point the most illicit of David's concoctions were fireworks and moonshine. But convinced that David's experiments and increasingly erratic behavior were signs that he was making and selling drugs, Ken and Kathy began to spot-check the public library, where David told them he studied. In variably, David would be there as promised, surrounded by a huge pile of chemistry books. But Ken and Kathy were not assuaged, and, worried that he would level their home, they prohibited David from being there alone, locking him out when they were away, even on quick errands, and setting a time for their return so that he could get back in. Kathy began routinely searching David's room and disposing of any chemicals and equipment she found hidden under the bed and deep within the closet. David was not deterred. One night as Ken and Kathy were sitting in the living room watching TV, the house was rocked by an explosion in the basement. There they found David lying semiconscious on the floor, his eyebrows smoking. Unaware that red phosphorus is pyrophoric, David had been pounding it with a screwdriver and ignited it. He was rushed to the hospital to have his eyes flushed, but even months later David had to make regular trips to an ophthalmologist to have pieces of the plastic phosphorus container plucked carefully from his eyes. Kathy then forbade David from experimenting in her home. So he shifted his base of operations to his mother's potting shed in Golf Manor. Both Patty Hahn and Michael Polasek admired David for the endless hours he spent in his new lab, but neither of them had any idea what he was up to. Sure, they thought it was odd that David often wore a gas mask in the shed and would sometimes discard his clothing after working there until two in the morning, but they chalked it up to their own limited education. Michael says that David tried to explain his experiments but that "what he told me went right over my head." One thing still sticks out, though. David's potting-shed project had something to do with creating energy. "He'd say, `One of these days we're gonna run out of oil.' He wanted to do something about that." The force hidden in the atom will be turned into light and heat and power for everyday uses. Chemists of the future, working with their brother-scientists, the physicists, will find new ways of harnessing and using the atoms of numerous elements--some of them unknown to the scientists of today. Do you want to share in the making of that astonishing and promising future? --The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments Like Michael, few people whom David confided in understood what he was doing. Ken Hahn, who had taken chemistry courses in college, could follow some of what David told him but thought he was exaggerating for attention. "I never saw him turn green or glow in the dark," he says. "I was probably too easy on him." It probably didn't feel that way to David. Although Ken is immensely proud of David's experiments now that they have a certain notoriety, at the time they represented a breakdown in discipline. As fathers are wont to do, Ken felt the solution lay in a goal that he didn't himself achieve as a child--Eagle Scout. As teenagers are wont to do, David subverted that goal. In addition to showing "scout spirit," Eagle Scouts must earn twenty-one merit badges. Eleven are mandatory, such as First Aid and Citizenship in the Community. The final ten are optional; scouts can choose from dozens of choices ranging from American Business to Woodwork. David elected to earn a merit badge in Atomic Energy. His scoutmaster, Joe Auito, who lives on a rural road an hour or so north of Detroit and who resembles an aging Deadhead rather than the rock-ribbed conservative I'd expected, says he's the only boy to have done so in the history of Clinton Township Troop 371. David's Atomic Energy merit-badge pamphlet was brazenly pro-nuclear, which is no surprise since it was prepared with the help of Westinghouse Electric, the American Nuclear Society, and the Edison Electric Institute, a trade group of utility companies, some of which run nuclear power plants. The pamphlet judiciously states that America is a democracy and "the people decide what the country will do." The pamphlet goes on to suggest, however, that critics of atomic energy were descended from a long line of naysayers and malcontents, warning that "if America decides for or against nuclear power plants based on fear and misunderstanding, that is wrong. We must first know the truth about atomic energy before we can decide to use it or to stop it." David was awarded his Atomic Energy merit badge on May 10, 1991, five months shy of his fifteenth birthday. To earn it he made a drawing showing how nuclear fission occurs, visited a hospital radiology unit to learn about the medical uses of radioisotopes,(1) and built a model reactor using a juice can, coat hangers, soda straws, kitchen matches, and rubber bands. By now, though, David had far grander ambitions. As Auito's wife and troop treasurer, Barbara, recalls: "The typical kid [working on the merit badge] would have gone to a doctor's office and asked about the X-ray machine. Dave had to go out and try to build a reactor." What is a breeder reactor? This simplistic description comes from a publication that David obtained from the Department of Energy (DOE): "Imagine you have a car and begin a long drive. When you start, you have half a tank of gas. When you return home, instead of being nearly empty, your gas tank is full. A breeder reactor is like this magic car. A breeder reactor not only generates electricity, but it also produces new fuel." All reactors, conventional and breeder, rely on a critical pile of a naturally radioactive element--typically uranium-235 or plutonium-239--as the "fuel" for a sustained chain of reactions known as fission. Fission occurs when a neutron combines with the nucleus of a radioisotope, say uranium-235, transforming it into uranium-236. This new isotope is highly unstable and immediately splits in half, forming two smaller nuclei, and releasing a great deal of radiant energy (some of which is heat) and several neutrons. These neutrons are absorbed by other uranium-235 atoms to begin the process again. A breeder reactor is configured so that a core of plutonium-239 is surrounded by a "blanket" of uranium-238. When the plutonium gives off neutrons, they are absorbed by the uranium-238 to become uranium-239, which in turn decays by emitting beta rays and is transformed into neptunium-239. Following another stage of "radioactive decay," neptunium becomes plutonium-239, which can replenish the fuel core. The nuclear industry used to tout breeders as the magical solution to the nation's energy needs. The government had opened up two experimental breeders at a test site in Idaho by 1961. Amid great fanfare, in 1963 Detroit Edison opened the Enrico Fermi I power plant, the nation's first and only commercially run breeder reactor. The following decade, Congress appropriated billions of dollars for the Clinch River Breeder Reactor in Tennessee. Hopes ran so high that Glenn Seaborg, chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission during the Nixon years, predicted that breeders would be the backbone of an emerging nuclear economy and that plutonium might be "a logical contender to replace gold as the standard of our monetary system." Such optimism proved to be unwarranted. The first Idaho breeder had to be shut down after suffering a partial core meltdown; the second breeder generated electricity but not new fuel. The Fermi plant--located just 60 miles from Clinton Township--was plagued by mechanical problems, accidents, and budget overruns, and produced electricity so expensive that Detroit Edison never even bothered to break down the costs. In 1966, the plant's core suffered a partial meltdown after the cooling system malfunctioned; six years later the plant was shut down permanently. In 1983, when it was estimated that completion costs would deplete much of the federal budget for energy research and development, Congress finally killed the Clinch River program. If he knew of such setbacks, David was in no way deterred by them. His inspiration came from the nuclear pioneers of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries: Antoine Henri Becquerel, the French physicist who, along with Pierre and Marie Curie, received the Nobel Prize in chemistry in 1903 for discovering radioactivity; Fredic and Irene Joliot-Curie, who received the prize in 1935 for producing the first artificial radioisotope; Sir James Chadwick, who won the Nobel Prize in physics the same year for discovering the neutron; and Enrico Fermi, who created the world's first sustainable nuclear chain reaction, a crucial step leading to the production of atomic energy and atomic bombs.(2) Unlike his predecessors, however, David did not have vast financial support from the state, no laboratory save for a musty potting shed, no proper instruments or safety devices, and, by far his chief impediment, no legal means of obtaining radioactive materials. To get around this last obstacle, David utilized a number of cover stories and concocted identities, plus a Geiger-counter kit he ordered from a mail-order house in Scottsdale, Arizona, which he assembled and mounted to the dashboard of his burgundy Pontiac 6000. David hadn't hit on the idea to try to build a breeder reactor when he began his nuclear experiments at the age of fifteen, but in a step down that path, he was already determined to "irradiate anything" he could. To do that he had to build a "gun" that could bombard isotopes with neutrons. David wrote to a number of groups listed in his merit-badge pamphlet--the DOE, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), the American Nuclear Society, the Edison Electric Institute, and the Atomic Industrial Forum, the nuclear-power industry's trade group--in hopes of discovering how he might obtain, from both natural and commercial sources, the radioactive raw materials he needed to build his neutron gun and experiment with it. By writing up to twenty letters a day and claiming to be a physics instructor at Chippewa Valley High School, David says he obtained "tons" of information from those and other groups, though some of it was of only marginal value. The American Nuclear Society sent David a teacher's guide called "Goin' Fission," which featured an Albert Einstein cartoon character: "I'm Albert. Und today, ve are gonna go fission. No, ve don't need any smelly bait and der won't be any fish to clean. I mean fission, not fishin'." Other organizations proved to be far more helpful, and none more than the NRC. Again posing as a physics teacher, David managed to engage the agency's director of isotope production and distribution, Donald Erb, in a scientific discussion by mail. Erb offered David tips on isolating certain radioactive elements, provided a list of isotopes that can sustain a chain reaction, and imparted a piece of information that would soon prove to be vital to David's plans: "Nothing produces neutrons ... as well as beryllium." When David asked Erb about the risks posed by such radioactive materials, the NRC official assured "Professor Hahn" that the "real dangers are very slight," since possession "of any radioactive materials in quantities and forms sufficient to pose any hazard is subject to Nuclear Regulatory Commission (or equivalent) licensing." David says the NRC also sent him pricing data and commercial sources for some of the radioactive wares he wanted to purchase, ostensibly for the benefit of his eager students. "The NRC gave me all the information I needed," he later recalled. "All I had to do was go out and get the materials." The newspapers have published numerous diagrams, not very helpful to the average man, of protons and neutrons doing their stuff.... But curiously little has been said, at any rate in print, about the question that is of most urgent interest to all of us, namely, "How difficult are these things to manufacture?" --George Orwell, "You and the Atom Bomb," 1945 Armed with information from his friends in government and industry, David typed up a list of sources for fourteen radioactive isotopes..Americium-241, he learned from the Boy Scout atomic-energy booklet, could be found in smoke detectors; radium-226, in antique luminous dial clocks; uranium-238 and minute quantities of uranium-235, in a black ore called pitchblende; and thorium-232, in Coleman-style gas lanterns. To obtain americium-241, David contacted smoke-detector companies and claimed that he needed a large number of the devices for a school project. One company agreed to sell him about a hundred broken detectors for a dollar apiece. (He also tried to "collect" detectors while at scout camp.) David wasn't sure where the americium-241 was located, so he wrote to BRK Electronics in Aurora, Illinois. A customer-service representative named Beth Weber wrote back to say she'd be happy to help out with "your report." She explained that each detector contains only a tiny amount of americium-241, which is sealed in a gold matrix "to make sure that corrosion does not break it down and release it." Thanks to Weber's tip, David extracted the americium components and then welded them together with a blowtorch. As it decays, americium-241 emits alpha rays composed of protons and neutrons. David put the lump of americium inside a hollow block of lead with a tiny hole pricked in one side so that alpha rays would stream out. In front of the lead block he placed a sheet of aluminum. Aluminum atoms absorb alpha rays and in the process kick out neutrons. Since neutrons have no charge, and thus cannot be measured by a Geiger counter, David had no way of knowing whether the gun was working until he recalled that paraffin throws off protons when hit by neutrons. David aimed the apparatus at some paraffin, and his Geiger counter registered what he assumed was a proton stream. His neutron gun, crude but effective, was ready. With neutron gun in hand, David was ready to irradiate. He could have concentrated on transforming previously nonradioactive elements, but in a decision that was both indicative of his personality and instrumental to his later attempt to build a breeder reactor, he wanted to use the gun on radioisotopes to increase the chances of making them fissionable. He thought that uranium-235, which is used in atomic weapons, would provide the "biggest reaction." He scoured hundreds of miles of upper Michigan in his Pontiac looking for "hot rocks" with his Geiger counter, but all he could find was a quarter trunkload of pitchblende on the shores of Lake Huron. Deciding to pursue a more bureaucratic approach, he wrote to a Czechoslovakian firm that sells uranium to commercial and university buyers, whose name was provided, he told me, by the NRC. Claiming to be a professor buying materials for a nuclear-research laboratory, he obtained a few samples of a black ore--either pitchblende or uranium dioxide, both of which contain small amounts of uranium-235 and uranium-238. David pulverized the ores with a hammer, thinking that he could then use nitric acid to isolate uranium. Unable to find a commercial source for nitric acid--probably because it is used in the manufacture of explosives and thus is tightly controlled--David made his own by heating saltpeter and sodium bisulfate, then bubbling the gas that was released through a container of water, producing nitric acid. He then mixed the acid with the powdered ore and boiled it, ending up with something that "looked like a dirty milk shake." Next he poured the "milk shake" through a coffee filter, hoping that the uranium would pass through the filter. But David miscalculated uranium's solubility, and whatever amount was present was trapped in the filter, making it difficult to purify further. Frustrated at his inability to isolate sufficient supplies of uranium, David turned his attention to thorium-232, which when bombarded with neutrons produces uranium-233, a man-made fissionable element (and, although he might not have known it then, one that can be substituted for plutonium in breeder reactors). Discovered in 1828 and named after the Norse god Thor, thorium has a very high melting point, and is thus used in the manufacture of airplane engine parts that reach extremely high temperatures. David knew from his merit-badge pamphlet that the "mantle" used in commercial gas lanterns--the part that looks like a doll's stocking and conducts the flame--is coated with a compound containing thorium-232. He bought thousands of lantern mantles from surplus stores and, using the blowtorch, reduced them into a pile of ash. David still had to isolate the thorium-232 from the ash. Fortunately, he remembered reading in one of his dad's chemistry books that lithium is prone to binding with oxygen--meaning, in this context, that it would rob thorium dioxide of its oxygen content and leave a cleaner form of thorium. David purchased $1,000 worth of lithium batteries and extracted the element by cutting the batteries in half with a pair of wire cutters. He placed the lithium and thorium dioxide together in a ball of aluminum foil and heated the ball with a Bunsen burner. Eureka! David's method purified thorium to at least 9,000 times the level found in nature and 170 times the level that requires NRC licensing. At this point, David could have used his americium neutron gun to transform thorium-232 into fissionable uranium-233. But the americium he had was not capable of producing enough neutrons, so he began preparing radium for an improved irradiating gun. Radium was used in paint that rendered luminescent the faces of clocks and automobile and airplane instrument panels until the late 1960s, when it was discovered that many clock painters, who routinely licked their brushes to make a fine point, died of cancer. David began visiting junkyards and antiques stores in search of radium-coated dashboard panels or clocks. Once he found such an item, he'd chip paint from the instruments and collect it in pill vials. It was slow going until one day, driving through Clinton Township to visit his girlfriend, Heather, he noticed that his Geiger counter went wild as he passed Gloria's Resale Boutique/Antique. The proprietor, Gloria Genette, still recalls the day when she was called at home by a store employee who said that a polite young man was anxious to buy an old table clock with a tinted green dial but wondered if she'd come down in price. She would. David bought the clock for $10. Inside he discovered a vial of radium paint left behind by a worker either accidentally or as a courtesy so that the clock's owner could touch up the dial when it began to fade. David was so overjoyed that he dropped by the boutique later that night to leave a note for Gloria, telling her that if she received another "luminus [sic] clock" to contact him immediately. "I will pay any some [sic] of money to obtain one." To concentrate the radium, David secured a sample of barium sulfate from the X-ray ward at a local hospital (staff there handed over the substance because they remembered him from his merit-badge project) and heated it until it liquefied. After mixing the barium sulfate with the radium paint chips, he strained the brew through a coffee filter into a beaker that began to glow. This time, David had judged the solubility of the two substances correctly; the radium solution passed through to the beaker. He then dehydrated the solution into crystalline salts, which he could pack into the cavity of another lead block to build a new gun. Whether David fully realized it or not, by handling purified radium he was truly putting himself in danger. Nevertheless, he now proceeded to acquire another neutron emitter to replace the aluminum used in his previous neutron gun. Faithful to Erb's instructions, he secured a strip of beryllium (which is a much richer source of neutrons than aluminum) from the chemistry department at Macomb Community College--a friend who attended the school swiped it for him--and placed it in front of the lead block that held the radium. His cute little americium gun was now a more powerful radium gun. David began to bombard his thorium and uranium powders in the hopes of producing at least some fissionable atoms. He measured the results with his Geiger counter, but while the thorium seemed to grow more radioactive, the uranium remained a disappointment. Once again, "Professor Hahn" sprang into action, writing his old friend Erb at the NRC to discuss the problem. The NRC had the answer. David's neutrons were too "fast" for the uranium).(3) He would have to slow them down using a filter of water, deuterium, or tritium. Water would have sufficed, but David likes a challenge. Consulting his list of commercially available radioactive sources, he discovered that tritium, a radioactive material used to boost the power of nuclear weapons, is found in glow-in-the-dark gun and bow sights, which David promptly bought from sporting-goods stores and mail-order catalogues. He removed the tritium contained in a waxy substance inside the sights, and then, using a variety of pseudonyms, returned the sights to the store or manufacturer for repair--each time collecting another tiny quantity of tritium. When he had enough, David smeared the waxy substance over the beryllium strip and targeted the gun at uranium powder. He carefully monitored the results with his Geiger counter over several weeks, and it appeared that the powder was growing more radioactive by the day. Now seventeen, David hit on the idea of building a model breeder reactor. He knew that without a critical pile of at least thirty pounds of enriched uranium he had no chance of initiating a sustained chain reaction, but he was determined to get as far as he could by trying to get his various radioisotopes to interact with one another. That way, he now says, "no matter what happened there would be something changing into something--some kind of action going on there." His blueprint was a schematic of a checkerboard breeder reactor he'd seen in one of his father's college textbooks. Ignoring any thought of safety, David took the highly radioactive radium and americium out of their respective lead casings and, after another round of filing and pulverizing, mixed those isotopes with beryllium and aluminum shavings, all of which he wrapped in aluminum foil. What were once the neutron sources for his guns became a makeshift "core" for his reactor. He surrounded this radioactive ball with a "blanket" composed of tiny foil-wrapped cubes of thorium ash and uranium powder, which were stacked in an alternating pattern with carbon cubes and tenuously held together with duct tape. David monitored his "breeder reactor" at the Golf Manor laboratory with his Geiger counter. "It was radioactive as heck," he says. "The level of radiation after a few weeks was far greater than it was at the time of assembly. I know I transformed some radioactive materials. Even though there was no critical pile, I know that some of the reactions that go on in a breeder reactor went on to a minute extent." Finally, David, whose safety precautions had thus far consisted of wearing a makeshift lead poncho and throwing away his clothes and changing his shoes following a session in the potting shed, began to realize that, sustained reaction or not, he could be putting himself and others in danger. (One tip-off was when the radiation was detectable through concrete.) Jim Miller, a nuclear-savvy high-school friend in whom David had confided, warned him that real reactors use control rods to regulate nuclear reactions. Miller recommended cobalt, which absorbs neutrons but does not itself become fissionable. "Reactors get hot, it's just a fact," Miller, a nervous, skinny twenty-two-year-old, said during an interview at a Burger King in Clinton Township where he worked as a cook. David purchased a set of cobalt drill bits at a local hardware store and inserted them between the thorium and uranium cubes. But the cobalt wasn't sufficient. When his Geiger counter began picking up radiation five doors down from his mom's house, David decided that he had "too much radioactive stuff in one place" and began to disassemble the reactor. He placed the thorium pellets in a shoebox that he hid in his mother's house, left the radium and americium in the shed, and packed most of the rest of his equipment into the trunk of the Pontiac 6000. WASTE DISPOSAL. If you can dump your waste directly into the kitchen drain (NOT into the sink), you are all right. If not, collect it in a plastic pail to be thrown out when you're finished. --The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments At 2:40 A.M. on August 31, 1994, the Clinton Township police responded to a call concerning a young man who had been spotted in a residential neighborhood, apparently stealing tires from a car. When the police arrived, David told them he was waiting to meet a friend. Unconvinced, officers decided to search his car. When they opened the trunk they discovered a toolbox shut with a padlock and sealed with duct tape for good measure. The trunk also contained over fifty foil-wrapped cubes of mysterious gray powder, small disks and cylindrical metal objects, lantern mantles, mercury switches, a clock face, ores, fireworks, vacuum tubes, and assorted chemicals and acids.The police were especially alarmed by the toolbox, which David warned them was radioactive and which they feared was an atomic bomb. For reasons that are hard to fathom, Sergeant Joseph Mertes, one of the arresting officers, ordered a car containing what he noted in his report was "a potential improvised explosive device" to be towed to police headquarters. "It probably shouldn't have been done, but we thought that the car had been used in the commission of a crime," Police Chief Al Ernst now says sheepishly. "When I came in at 6:30 in the morning it was already there." The police called in the Michigan State Police Bomb Squad to examine the Pontiac and the State Department of Public Health (DPH) to supply radiological assistance. The good news, the two teams discovered, was that David's toolbox was not an atomic bomb. The bad news was that David's trunk did contain radioactive materials, including concentrations of thorium--"not found in nature, at least not in Michigan"--and americium. That discovery automatically triggered the Federal Radiological Emergency Response Plan, and state officials soon were embroiled in tense phone consultations with the DOE, EPA, FBI, and NRC. With the police, David was largely uncooperative and taciturn. He provided his father's address but didn't mention his mother's house or his potting-shed laboratory. It wasn't until Thanksgiving Day that Dave Minnaar, a DPH radiological expert, finally interviewed David. David told Minnaar that he had been trying to make thorium in a form he could use to produce energy and that he hoped "his successes would help him earn his Eagle Scout status." David also finally admitted to having a backyard laboratory. On November 29, state radiological experts surveyed the potting shed. They found aluminum pie pans, jars of acids, Pyrex cups, milk crates, and other materials strewn about, much of it contaminated with what subsequent official reports would call "excessive levels" of radioactive material, especially americium-241 and thorium-232. How high? A vegetable can, for example, registered at 50,000 counts per minute--about 1,000 times higher than normal levels of background radiation. But although Minnaar's troops didn't know it at the time, they conducted their survey long after David's mother, alerted by Ken and Kathy and petrified that the government would take her home away as a result of her son's experiments, had ransacked the shed and discarded most of what she found, including his neutron gun, the radium, pellets of thorium that were far more radioactive than what the health officials found, and several quarts of radioactive powder. "The funny thing is," David now says, "they only got the garbage, and the garbage got all the good stuff." After determining that no radioactive materials had leaked outside the shed, state authorities sealed it and petitioned the federal government for help. The NRC licenses nuclear plants and research facilities and deals with any nuclear accidents that take place at those sites. David, of course, was not an NRC-licensed operation, so it was determined that the EPA, which responds to emergencies involving lost or abandoned atomic materials, should be contacted for assistance. In a memo to the EPA's Emergency Response and Enforcement Branch, the Department of Public Health noted that the materials discovered in David's lab were regulated under the Federal Atomic Energy Act and that the "extent of the radioactive material contamination within a private citizen's property beg for a controlled remediation that is beyond our authority or resources to oversee." EPA officials arrived in Golf Manor on January 25, 1995--five months after David had been stopped by the police--to conduct their own survey of the shed. Their "action memo" noted that conditions at the site "present an imminent and substantial endangerment to public health or welfare or the environment," and that there was "actual or potential exposure to nearby human populations, animals, or food chain...." The memo further stated that adverse conditions such as heavy wind, rain, or fire could cause the "contaminants to migrate or be released." A Superfund cleanup took place between June 26 and 28 at a cost of about $60,000. After the moon-suited workers dismantled the potting shed with electric saws, they loaded the remains into thirty-nine sealed barrels placed aboard a semitrailer bound for Envirocare, a dump facility located in the middle of the Great Salt Lake Desert. There, the remains of David's experiments were entombed along with tons of low-level radioactive debris from the government's atomic-bomb factories, plutonium-production facilities, and contaminated industrial sites. According to the official assessment, there was no noticeable damage to flora or fauna in the back yard in Golf Manor, but 40,000 nearby residents could have been put at risk during David's years of experimentation due to the dangers posed by the release of radioactive dust and radiation. Last May, I made the 90-mile drive from Detroit to Lansing, where Dave Minnaar works in a dreary building that houses several state environmental agencies. Because Patty Hahn had cleaned out the shed before Minnaar's men arrived on the scene, he never knew that David had built neutron guns or that he had obtained radium. Nor did he understand, until I told him, that the cubes of thorium powder found by police at the time of David's arrest were the building blocks for a model breeder reactor. "These are conditions that regulatory agencies never envision," says Minnaar. "It's simply presumed that the average person wouldn't have the technology or materials required to experiment in these areas." "The real danger ... lies in the radioactive properties of these elements. [Some] migrate to the bone marrow, where their radiation interferes with the production of red blood cells. Less than one-millionth of a gram can be fatal." --from David's notes David went into a serious depression after the federal authorities shut down his laboratory. Years of painstaking work had been thrown in the garbage or buried beneath the sands of Utah. Students at Chippewa Valley had taken to calling him "Radioactive Boy," and when his girlfriend, Heather, sent David Valentine's balloons at his high school, they were seized by the principal, who apparently feared they had been inflated with chemical gases David needed to continue his experiments. In a final indignity, some area scout leaders attempted (and failed) to deny David his Eagle Scout status, saying that his extracurricular merit-badge activities had endangered the community. In the fall of 1995, Ken and Kathy demanded that David enroll in Macomb Community College. He majored in metallurgy but skipped many of his classes and spent much of the day in bed or driving in circles around their block. Finally, Ken and Kathy gave him an ultimatum: Join the armed forces or move out of the house. They called the local recruiting office, which sent a representative to their house or called nearly every day until David finally gave in. After completing boot camp last year, he was stationed on the nuclear-powered USS Enterprise aircraft carrier. Alas, David's duties, as a lowly seaman, are of the deck-swabbing and potato-peeling variety. But long after his shipmates have gone to sleep, David stays up studying topics that interest him--currently steroids, melanin, genetic codes, antioxidants, prototype reactors, amino acids, and criminal law. And it is perhaps best that he does not work on the ship's eight reactors, for EPA scientists worry that his previous exposure to radioactivity may have greatly cut short his life. All the radioactive materials he experimented with can enter the body through ingestion, inhalation, or skin contact and then deposit in the bones and organs, where they can cause a host of ailments, including cancer. Because it is so potent, the radium that David was exposed to in a relatively small, enclosed space is most worrisome of all. Back in 1995, the EPA arranged for David to undergo a full examination at the nearby Fermi nuclear power plant. David, fearful of what he might learn, refused. Now, though, he's looking ahead. "I wanted to make a scratch in life," he explains when I ask him about his early years of nuclear research. "I've still got time. I don't believe I took more than five years off of my life." (1) Individual atoms of an element have the same number of protons in their nuclei. This "atomic number" determines the element's chemical properties and position in the periodic table. The number of neutrons within atoms of the same elements can vary, however. Known as isotopes, these variations have unique physical properties because the number of neutrons affects the atom's mass. Most elements have at least two naturally occurring, stable isotopes. But isotopes of heavier elements (those with more protons) are often unstable. Called radioisotopes, and often artificially produced, these nuclei undergo some form of radioactive decay--alpha, beta, or gamma--to become more stable. In alpha decay, the nucleus loses two protons and two neutrons, thus transforming into another element two atomic numbers below it on the periodic table. In beta decay, either a neutron is converted into a proton, and the atomic number rises, or the opposite occurs, pushing the atomic number down. Gamma radiation--in which energy is emitted but no transformation occurs--can accompany alpha or beta decay (where the atomic number falls) or can occur on its own. Americium-241, for example, is a radioisotope of americium. Its atomic number is 95, its atomic mass number is 241, and it becomes neptunium-237 through alpha decay. (2) Another role model, similar to David in temperament, was the Englishman Francis William Aston. He invented the mass spectrograph in 1920, which he used to identify more than 200 isotopes. As a child, writes Richard Rhodes, Aston "made picric-acid bombs from soda-bottle cartridges and designed and launched huge tissue-paper fire balloons...." (3) Manhattan Project scientists discovered that some neutrons can move at speeds of about 17 million miles per hour. If they are slowed down or "moderated," to about 5,000 miles per hour, they have a better chance of being absorbed by another atom. Ken Silverstein's last article for Harper's Magazine, "The Boeing Formation," appeared in the May 1997 issue. He lives in Washington, D.C.

  14. Yes but... by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 5, Funny


    ...could he split a beer atom?

    1. Re:Yes but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now where's that chisel?

    2. Re:Yes but... by gmack · · Score: 1

      you can't be Serious.

    3. Re:Yes but... by bugg · · Score: 5, Funny

      The fact that 4 moderators recognized this quote from Young Einstein troubles me. Severely.

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    4. Re:Yes but... by unicron · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm not impressed either. My little brother built a particle accelerator when he was 5 that's just down-right awesome, our folks were really proud of him.

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    5. Re:Yes but... by RebelWithoutAClue · · Score: 1
      ... Imagine that !!

      wasting good beer.

      What we really need is fusion with the end result as beer ... :)

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    6. Re:Yes but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5? What a slow learner. I learned how to toss things around the room at a much younger age than that. And I'm sure I made a TinkerToy catapult long before I was 5. I don't consider myself all that exceptional either....

    7. Re:Yes but... by Russ+Steffen · · Score: 2

      Sorry, but a spitball gun does not count as a 'particle accelerator'. Neither does anything involving a rubber band, a slinky or Lego bricks.

    8. Re:Yes but... by unicron · · Score: 1

      No, this thing spanned 35 acres at an estimated construction cost of 45 million dollars, we still don't know how he did it.

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    9. Re:Yes but... by BLiP2 · · Score: 1

      ...could he split a beer atom?

      Hey yeah! Then you'd get twice as much beer!

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    10. Re:Yes but... by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 2

      That troubles you? Imagine how troubling it is to realise that you're the first to think of it.

    11. Re:Yes but... by evil_one · · Score: 1

      as in Yahoo..? Yahoo Serious?

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    12. Re:Yes but... by SmittyTheBold · · Score: 1

      The fact that you called a "reference" a "quote" troubles me.

      No, really, what troubles me is that mods recognizing a movie reference troubles you. It's a damn funny movie, so see it for what it is. ;)

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    13. Re:Yes but... by Erik+K.+Veland · · Score: 1

      No, actually you'd get bubbles. Or so the theory goes.

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    14. Re:Yes but... by npsimons · · Score: 1
      The fact that 4 moderators recognized this quote from Young Einstein troubles me. Severely.


      I felt a great disturbance in the force . . . as if four moderators recognized this quote, and were then suddenly metamoderated into oblivion by everyone who can't stand Yahoo Serious.

    15. Re:Yes but... by bugg · · Score: 1

      Funny movie? My goal in life for the past 4 years has been to hunt down Yahoo Serious and waste two hours of HIS damn time.

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  15. You already posted this you morons. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jesus christ. Can't anyone at slashdot do a quick search before posting a story? Slashdot ran this story AGES ago.

    1. Re:You already posted this you morons. by scubacuda · · Score: 2

      I searched for several (what I thought were good) keywords before I submitted it. My apologies if it was...

    2. Re:You already posted this you morons. by negativekarmanow+tm · · Score: -1

      No-one blames you. The /. search engine sucks kiddy cock, and the editors wouldn't have known if they had published the story yesterday.

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    3. Re:You already posted this you morons. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is negative karma relative?

    4. Re:You already posted this you morons. by cyril3 · · Score: 1

      yeah, you get it from killing your mother-in-law.

  16. How is this "News"? by amuro98 · · Score: 1, Troll

    Must be a *real* slow news day if Slashdot has to resort to picking up stories from ~4 years ago... Didn't Slashdot cover this when it *was* news?

    Bah. At this rate Slashdot's becoming nothing more than one of those horribly outdated joke sites which contains nothing but the same old tired jokes you got forwarded in email when the internet was this "new thing."

    1. Re:How is this "News"? by Espressoman · · Score: 1

      Actually, it must be a *REAL* slow news day, as the story was old when Slashdot covered it less than a year ago...

    2. Re:How is this "News"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *** Troll Alert ***

    3. Re:How is this "News"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blah blah blah. Go get a fucking life, you stupid nerd boy. If you don't like reading this site, go elsewhere. Nobody is forcing you to come here. Lose some weight, get a girl, and get a fucking life.

  17. HI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I'm the ghost of Baldwin Powell, and I'm gay. Thank you. You too, yes you too. Thank you. Please hold your fingers up like this V. Thak you. Thank you. Yes, kiss ur fellow cubs now. Thank you.

  18. Darwin Award? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm, if I remember properly isn't this an 'urban legend' like the jet powered chevy impala? I thought that this was just an urban legend that people told...

    1. Re:Darwin Award? by wilhelm · · Score: 1

      I found this a while back, and it's a pretty good story.

    2. Re:Darwin Award? by Pathwalker · · Score: 2

      You said:
      Umm, if I remember properly isn't this an 'urban legend' like the jet powered chevy impala? I thought that this was just an urban legend that people told...

      I reply:
      Nope - the facts at the core of this are true (I went to high school with Dave, and was in his scout troop as well). He found a place that was selling crates of smoke detectors that had been left in the rain, and bought hundreds of them to crack open for the radioactive material.

      As I recall, I kept calling him "Glow Boy" and telling him that his nuts would fall off if he wasn't careful...

    3. Re:Darwin Award? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      But isn't calling it a "breeder reactor" very excessive? He basically just got a pile of nasty stuff and mushed it together in his shed, right?

      As it is, Americium, an alpha emittor, is a decay product of Plutonium, not the other way around. And according to pages I have read, it would take 5000 or more smoke detectors to amass a single gram (the stuff sells for over $1000 a gram).

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  19. holy shit by tps12 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man, talk about terrible parents. They locked him out of the house because they thought he was making drugs? No wonder he wanted to a-bomb the neighborhood.

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    1. Re:holy shit by TheMonkeyDepartment · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, it was all the parents' fault!!! This guy has no responsibility for his actions; let's blame it all on the parents!!!

  20. VERY OLD News is now NEW because it's now on /.!! by ScottKin · · Score: 0, Troll

    More proof that CmdrTaco and the rest of the people that manage this overblown BLOG-site collectively DO live in a Cave in West Virginia.

    Give us a break and post something relevant, like new news on Beowulf clusters matching the performance of Cray T3E Supercomputers?

    It's official - /. has begun it's downhill slide with this "news item"

    ScottKin

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  21. This? Again? Come on, he even posted a reply to /. by LWolenczak · · Score: 5, Informative

    This same basic story was posted about a year ago. Hell, the dude who did it even made a post. Come on people.... Drink more coffee so your memory will be retained for more then an hour.

    Jolt also works.

  22. And if the above post gets slashdotted.... by Anonymous+Crowhead · · Score: -1, Redundant

    Harper's Magazine Nov, 1998 The radioactive boy scout: when a teenager attempts to build a breeder reactor. (case of David Hahn who managed to secure materials and equipment from businesses and information from government officials to develop an atomic energy radiation project for his Boy Scout merit-badge) Author/s: Ken Silverstein When a teenager attempts to build a breeder reactor There is hardly a boy or a girl alive who is not keenly interested in finding out about things. And that's exactly what chemistry is: Finding out about things--finding out what things are made of and what changes they undergo. What things? Any thing! Every thing! --The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments Golf Manor is the kind of place where nothing unusual is supposed to happen, the kind of place where people live precisely because it is more than 25 miles outside of Detroit and all the complications attendant on that city. The kind of place where money buys a bit more land, perhaps a second bathroom, and so reassures residents that they're safely in the bosom of the middle class. Every element of Golf Manor invokes one form of security or another, beginning with the name of the subdivision itself--taken from the 18 hole course at its entrance--and the community in which it is nestled, Commerce Township. The houses and trees are both old and varied enough to make Golf Manor feel more like a neighborhood than a subdivision, and the few features that do convey subdivision--a sign at the entrance saying "We have many children but none to spare. Please drive carefully"--have a certain Back to the Future charm. Most Golf Manor residents remain there until they die, and then they are replaced by young couples with kids. In short, it is the kind of place where, on a typical day, the only thing lurking around the corner is a Mister Softee ice-cream truck. But June 26, 1995, was not a typical day. Ask Dottie Pease. As she turned down Pinto Drive, Pease saw eleven men swarming across her carefully manicured lawn. Their attention seemed to be focused on the back yard of the house next door, specifically on a large wooden potting shed that abutted the chain-link fence dividing her property from her neighbor's. Three of the men had donned ventilated moon suits and were proceeding to dismantle the potting shed with electric saws, stuffing the pieces of wood into large steel drums emblazoned with radioactive warning signs. Pease had never noticed anything out of the ordinary at the house next door. A middle-aged couple, Michael Polasek and Patty Hahn, lived there. On some weekends, they were joined by Patty's teenage son, David. As she huddled with a group of nervous neighbors, though, Pease heard one resident claim to have awoken late one night to see the potting shed emitting an eerie glow. "I was pretty disturbed," Pease recalls. "I went inside and called my husband. I said, `Da-a-ve, there are men in funny suits walking around out here. You've got to do something.'" What the men in the funny suits found was that the potting shed was dangerously irradiated and that the area's 40,000 residents could be at risk. Publicly, the men in white promised the residents of Golf Manor that they had nothing to fear, and to this day neither Pease nor any of the dozen or so people I interviewed knows the real reason that the Environmental Protection Agency briefly invaded their neighborhood. When asked, most mumble something about a chemical spill. The truth is far more bizarre: the Golf Manor Superfund cleanup was provoked by the boy next door, David Hahn, who attempted to build a nuclear breeder reactor in his mother's potting shed as part of a Boy Scout merit-badge project. It seems remarkable that David's story hasn't already wended its way through all forms of journalism and become the stuff of legend, but at the time the EPA refused to give out David's name, and although a few local reporters learned it, neither he nor any family members agreed to be interviewed. Even the federal and state officials who oversaw the cleanup learned only a small part of what took place in the potting shed at Golf Manor because David, fearing legal repercussions, told them almost nothing about his experiments. Then in 1996, Jay Gourley, a correspondent with the Natural Resources News Service in Washington, D.C., came across a tiny newspaper item about the case and contacted David Hahn. Gourley later passed on his research to me, and I subsequently interviewed the story's protagonists, including David--now a twenty-two-year-old sailor stationed in Norfolk, Virginia. I met with David in the hope of making sense not only of his experiments but of him. The archetypal American suburban boy learns how to hit a fadeaway jump shot, change a car's oil, perform some minor carpentry feats. If he's a Boy Scout he masters the art of starting a fire by rubbing two sticks together, and if he's a typical adolescent pyro, he transforms tennis-ball cans into cannons. David Hahn taught himself to build a neutron gun. He figured out a way to dupe officials at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission into providing him with crucial information he needed in his attempt to build a breeder reactor, and then he obtained and purified radioactive elements such as radium and thorium. I had seen childhood photographs of David in which he looked perfectly normal, even angelic, with blond hair and hazel-green eyes, and, as he grew older, gangly limbs and a peach-fuzz mustache. Still, when I went to meet him in Norfolk, I was anticipating some physical manifestation of brilliance or obsession. An Einstein or a Kaczynski. But all I saw was a beefier version of the clean-cut kid in the pictures. David's manner was oddly dispassionate, though polite, until we began to discuss his nuclear adventures. Then, for five hours, lighting and grinding out cigarettes for emphasis, David enthused about laboring in his backyard laboratory. He told me how he used coffee filters and pickle jars to handle deadly substances such as radium and nitric acid, and he sheepishly divulged the various cover stories and aliases he employed to obtain the radioactive materials. A shy and withdrawn teenager, David had confided in only a few friends about his project and never allowed anyone to witness his experiments. His breeder-reactor project was a means--albeit an unorthodox one--of escaping the trauma of adolescence. "I was very emotional as a kid," he told me, "and those experiments gave me a way to get away from that. They gave me some respect." You--Scientist! --The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments, Chapter 10 In The Making of the Atomic Bomb, Richard Rhodes notes that the psychological profiles of pioneering American physicists are remarkably similar. Frequently the eldest son of an emotionally remote, professional man, he--almost all were men--was a voracious reader during childhood, tended to feel lonely, and was shy and aloof from classmates. David's parents, Ken and Patty Hahn, divorced when he was a toddler. Ken is an automotive engineer for General Motors, as is his second wife, Kathy Missig, whom he married soon after the divorce. David lived with his father and stepmother in a small split-level home in suburban Clinton Township, about thirty miles north of Detroit. Ken Hahn worked extraordinarily long hours for GM. With close-cropped hair and a proclivity for short-sleeved dress shirts, Ken radiates a coolness that, combined with his constant preoccupation, must have been confounding to a child. When asked about his undemonstrative nature, Ken attributes it to his German ancestry. Yet for all his starchiness, it was Kathy who was David's chief disciplinarian. David spent weekends and holidays with his mother and her boyfriend, Michael Polasek, an amiable but hard-drinking retired forklift operator at GM. Golf Manor is demographically similar to Clinton Township, but the two households could not have been more different emotionally. Patty Hahn committed suicide in the house a few years ago, but Michael still lives there surrounded by pictures of her. ("She was a beautiful person," he says. "She was my whole life.") He keeps five cats and a spotless household, and looks like a member of Sha Na Na. Despite the fact that David was shuffled between households, his early years were seemingly ordinary. He played baseball and soccer, joined the Boy Scouts, and spent endless hours exploring with his friends. An abrupt change came at the age of ten, when Kathy's father, also an engineer for GM, gave David The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments. The book promised to open doors to a brave new world--"Chemistry means the difference between poverty and starvation and the abundant life," it stated with unwavering optimism--and offered instructions on how to set up a home laboratory and conduct experiments ranging from simple evaporation and filtration to making rayon and alcohol. David swiftly became immersed and by age twelve was digesting his father's college chemistry textbooks without difficulty. When he spent the night at Golf Manor, his mother would often wake to find him asleep on the livingroom floor surrounded by open volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica. In his father's house, David set up a laboratory in his small bedroom, where the shelves are still lined with books such as Prudent Practices for Handling Hazardous Chemicals in Laboratories and The Story of Atomic Energy. He bought beakers, Bunsen burners, test tubes, and other items commonly found in a child's chemistry set. David, though, was not conducting the typical adolescent experiments. By fourteen, an age at which most boys with a penchant for chemistry are conducting rudimentary gunpowder experiments, David had fabricated nitroglycerine. David's parents admired his interest in science but were alarmed by the chemical spills and blasts that became a regular event at the Hahn household. After David destroyed his bedroom--the walls were badly pocked, and the carpet was so stained that it had to be ripped out--Ken and Kathy banished his experiments to the basement. Which was fine with David. Science allowed him to distance himself from his parents, to create and destroy things, to break the rules, and to escape into something he was a success at, while sublimating a teenager's sense of failure, anger, and embarrassment into some really big explosions. David held a series of after-school jobs at fast-food joints, grocery stores, and furniture warehouses, but work was merely a means of financing his experiments. Never an enthusiastic student and always a horrific speller, David fell behind in school. During his junior year at Chippewa Valley High School--at a time when he was secretly conducting nuclear experiments in his back yard--David nearly failed state math and reading tests required for graduation (though he aced the test in science). Ken Gherardini, who taught David conceptual physics, remembers him as an excellent pupil on the rare occasions when he was interested in classwork but otherwise indifferent to his studies. "His dream in life was to collect a sample of every element on the periodic table," Gherardini told me with a laugh during an interview at Chippewa Valley before his 8:20 A.M. class. "I don't know about you, but my dream at that age was to buy a car." David's scientific preoccupation left less and less time for friends, though throughout much of high school he did have a girlfriend, Heather Beaudette, three years his junior. Heather says he was sweet and caring (she once returned from a weeklong trip to Florida to find a pile of lengthy love letters) but not always the perfect date. Heather's mom, Donna Bunnell, puts it this way: "He was a nice kid and always presentable, but [in the days before her second wedding] we had to tell him not to talk to anybody. He could eat and drink but, for God's sake, don't talk to the guests about the food's chemical composition." Not even his scout troop was spared David's scientific enthusiasm. He once appeared at a scout meeting with a bright orange face caused by an overdose of canthaxanthin, which he was taking to test methods of artificial tanning. One summer at scout camp, David's fellow campers blew a hole in the communal tent when they accidentally ignited the stockpile of powdered magnesium he had brought to make fireworks. Another year, David was expelled from camp when--while most of his friends were sneaking into the nearby Girl Scouts' camp--he stole a number of smoke detectors to disassemble for parts he required for his experiments. "Our summer vacation was screwed up when we got a call telling us to pick David up early from camp," his stepmother recalls with a sigh. Up to this point the most illicit of David's concoctions were fireworks and moonshine. But convinced that David's experiments and increasingly erratic behavior were signs that he was making and selling drugs, Ken and Kathy began to spot-check the public library, where David told them he studied. In variably, David would be there as promised, surrounded by a huge pile of chemistry books. But Ken and Kathy were not assuaged, and, worried that he would level their home, they prohibited David from being there alone, locking him out when they were away, even on quick errands, and setting a time for their return so that he could get back in. Kathy began routinely searching David's room and disposing of any chemicals and equipment she found hidden under the bed and deep within the closet. David was not deterred. One night as Ken and Kathy were sitting in the living room watching TV, the house was rocked by an explosion in the basement. There they found David lying semiconscious on the floor, his eyebrows smoking. Unaware that red phosphorus is pyrophoric, David had been pounding it with a screwdriver and ignited it. He was rushed to the hospital to have his eyes flushed, but even months later David had to make regular trips to an ophthalmologist to have pieces of the plastic phosphorus container plucked carefully from his eyes. Kathy then forbade David from experimenting in her home. So he shifted his base of operations to his mother's potting shed in Golf Manor. Both Patty Hahn and Michael Polasek admired David for the endless hours he spent in his new lab, but neither of them had any idea what he was up to. Sure, they thought it was odd that David often wore a gas mask in the shed and would sometimes discard his clothing after working there until two in the morning, but they chalked it up to their own limited education. Michael says that David tried to explain his experiments but that "what he told me went right over my head." One thing still sticks out, though. David's potting-shed project had something to do with creating energy. "He'd say, `One of these days we're gonna run out of oil.' He wanted to do something about that." The force hidden in the atom will be turned into light and heat and power for everyday uses. Chemists of the future, working with their brother-scientists, the physicists, will find new ways of harnessing and using the atoms of numerous elements--some of them unknown to the scientists of today. Do you want to share in the making of that astonishing and promising future? --The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments Like Michael, few people whom David confided in understood what he was doing. Ken Hahn, who had taken chemistry courses in college, could follow some of what David told him but thought he was exaggerating for attention. "I never saw him turn green or glow in the dark," he says. "I was probably too easy on him." It probably didn't feel that way to David. Although Ken is immensely proud of David's experiments now that they have a certain notoriety, at the time they represented a breakdown in discipline. As fathers are wont to do, Ken felt the solution lay in a goal that he didn't himself achieve as a child--Eagle Scout. As teenagers are wont to do, David subverted that goal. In addition to showing "scout spirit," Eagle Scouts must earn twenty-one merit badges. Eleven are mandatory, such as First Aid and Citizenship in the Community. The final ten are optional; scouts can choose from dozens of choices ranging from American Business to Woodwork. David elected to earn a merit badge in Atomic Energy. His scoutmaster, Joe Auito, who lives on a rural road an hour or so north of Detroit and who resembles an aging Deadhead rather than the rock-ribbed conservative I'd expected, says he's the only boy to have done so in the history of Clinton Township Troop 371. David's Atomic Energy merit-badge pamphlet was brazenly pro-nuclear, which is no surprise since it was prepared with the help of Westinghouse Electric, the American Nuclear Society, and the Edison Electric Institute, a trade group of utility companies, some of which run nuclear power plants. The pamphlet judiciously states that America is a democracy and "the people decide what the country will do." The pamphlet goes on to suggest, however, that critics of atomic energy were descended from a long line of naysayers and malcontents, warning that "if America decides for or against nuclear power plants based on fear and misunderstanding, that is wrong. We must first know the truth about atomic energy before we can decide to use it or to stop it." David was awarded his Atomic Energy merit badge on May 10, 1991, five months shy of his fifteenth birthday. To earn it he made a drawing showing how nuclear fission occurs, visited a hospital radiology unit to learn about the medical uses of radioisotopes,(1) and built a model reactor using a juice can, coat hangers, soda straws, kitchen matches, and rubber bands. By now, though, David had far grander ambitions. As Auito's wife and troop treasurer, Barbara, recalls: "The typical kid [working on the merit badge] would have gone to a doctor's office and asked about the X-ray machine. Dave had to go out and try to build a reactor." What is a breeder reactor? This simplistic description comes from a publication that David obtained from the Department of Energy (DOE): "Imagine you have a car and begin a long drive. When you start, you have half a tank of gas. When you return home, instead of being nearly empty, your gas tank is full. A breeder reactor is like this magic car. A breeder reactor not only generates electricity, but it also produces new fuel." All reactors, conventional and breeder, rely on a critical pile of a naturally radioactive element--typically uranium-235 or plutonium-239--as the "fuel" for a sustained chain of reactions known as fission. Fission occurs when a neutron combines with the nucleus of a radioisotope, say uranium-235, transforming it into uranium-236. This new isotope is highly unstable and immediately splits in half, forming two smaller nuclei, and releasing a great deal of radiant energy (some of which is heat) and several neutrons. These neutrons are absorbed by other uranium-235 atoms to begin the process again. A breeder reactor is configured so that a core of plutonium-239 is surrounded by a "blanket" of uranium-238. When the plutonium gives off neutrons, they are absorbed by the uranium-238 to become uranium-239, which in turn decays by emitting beta rays and is transformed into neptunium-239. Following another stage of "radioactive decay," neptunium becomes plutonium-239, which can replenish the fuel core. The nuclear industry used to tout breeders as the magical solution to the nation's energy needs. The government had opened up two experimental breeders at a test site in Idaho by 1961. Amid great fanfare, in 1963 Detroit Edison opened the Enrico Fermi I power plant, the nation's first and only commercially run breeder reactor. The following decade, Congress appropriated billions of dollars for the Clinch River Breeder Reactor in Tennessee. Hopes ran so high that Glenn Seaborg, chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission during the Nixon years, predicted that breeders would be the backbone of an emerging nuclear economy and that plutonium might be "a logical contender to replace gold as the standard of our monetary system." Such optimism proved to be unwarranted. The first Idaho breeder had to be shut down after suffering a partial core meltdown; the second breeder generated electricity but not new fuel. The Fermi plant--located just 60 miles from Clinton Township--was plagued by mechanical problems, accidents, and budget overruns, and produced electricity so expensive that Detroit Edison never even bothered to break down the costs. In 1966, the plant's core suffered a partial meltdown after the cooling system malfunctioned; six years later the plant was shut down permanently. In 1983, when it was estimated that completion costs would deplete much of the federal budget for energy research and development, Congress finally killed the Clinch River program. If he knew of such setbacks, David was in no way deterred by them. His inspiration came from the nuclear pioneers of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries: Antoine Henri Becquerel, the French physicist who, along with Pierre and Marie Curie, received the Nobel Prize in chemistry in 1903 for discovering radioactivity; Fredic and Irene Joliot-Curie, who received the prize in 1935 for producing the first artificial radioisotope; Sir James Chadwick, who won the Nobel Prize in physics the same year for discovering the neutron; and Enrico Fermi, who created the world's first sustainable nuclear chain reaction, a crucial step leading to the production of atomic energy and atomic bombs.(2) Unlike his predecessors, however, David did not have vast financial support from the state, no laboratory save for a musty potting shed, no proper instruments or safety devices, and, by far his chief impediment, no legal means of obtaining radioactive materials. To get around this last obstacle, David utilized a number of cover stories and concocted identities, plus a Geiger-counter kit he ordered from a mail-order house in Scottsdale, Arizona, which he assembled and mounted to the dashboard of his burgundy Pontiac 6000. David hadn't hit on the idea to try to build a breeder reactor when he began his nuclear experiments at the age of fifteen, but in a step down that path, he was already determined to "irradiate anything" he could. To do that he had to build a "gun" that could bombard isotopes with neutrons. David wrote to a number of groups listed in his merit-badge pamphlet--the DOE, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), the American Nuclear Society, the Edison Electric Institute, and the Atomic Industrial Forum, the nuclear-power industry's trade group--in hopes of discovering how he might obtain, from both natural and commercial sources, the radioactive raw materials he needed to build his neutron gun and experiment with it. By writing up to twenty letters a day and claiming to be a physics instructor at Chippewa Valley High School, David says he obtained "tons" of information from those and other groups, though some of it was of only marginal value. The American Nuclear Society sent David a teacher's guide called "Goin' Fission," which featured an Albert Einstein cartoon character: "I'm Albert. Und today, ve are gonna go fission. No, ve don't need any smelly bait and der won't be any fish to clean. I mean fission, not fishin'." Other organizations proved to be far more helpful, and none more than the NRC. Again posing as a physics teacher, David managed to engage the agency's director of isotope production and distribution, Donald Erb, in a scientific discussion by mail. Erb offered David tips on isolating certain radioactive elements, provided a list of isotopes that can sustain a chain reaction, and imparted a piece of information that would soon prove to be vital to David's plans: "Nothing produces neutrons ... as well as beryllium." When David asked Erb about the risks posed by such radioactive materials, the NRC official assured "Professor Hahn" that the "real dangers are very slight," since possession "of any radioactive materials in quantities and forms sufficient to pose any hazard is subject to Nuclear Regulatory Commission (or equivalent) licensing." David says the NRC also sent him pricing data and commercial sources for some of the radioactive wares he wanted to purchase, ostensibly for the benefit of his eager students. "The NRC gave me all the information I needed," he later recalled. "All I had to do was go out and get the materials." The newspapers have published numerous diagrams, not very helpful to the average man, of protons and neutrons doing their stuff.... But curiously little has been said, at any rate in print, about the question that is of most urgent interest to all of us, namely, "How difficult are these things to manufacture?" --George Orwell, "You and the Atom Bomb," 1945 Armed with information from his friends in government and industry, David typed up a list of sources for fourteen radioactive isotopes..Americium-241, he learned from the Boy Scout atomic-energy booklet, could be found in smoke detectors; radium-226, in antique luminous dial clocks; uranium-238 and minute quantities of uranium-235, in a black ore called pitchblende; and thorium-232, in Coleman-style gas lanterns. To obtain americium-241, David contacted smoke-detector companies and claimed that he needed a large number of the devices for a school project. One company agreed to sell him about a hundred broken detectors for a dollar apiece. (He also tried to "collect" detectors while at scout camp.) David wasn't sure where the americium-241 was located, so he wrote to BRK Electronics in Aurora, Illinois. A customer-service representative named Beth Weber wrote back to say she'd be happy to help out with "your report." She explained that each detector contains only a tiny amount of americium-241, which is sealed in a gold matrix "to make sure that corrosion does not break it down and release it." Thanks to Weber's tip, David extracted the americium components and then welded them together with a blowtorch. As it decays, americium-241 emits alpha rays composed of protons and neutrons. David put the lump of americium inside a hollow block of lead with a tiny hole pricked in one side so that alpha rays would stream out. In front of the lead block he placed a sheet of aluminum. Aluminum atoms absorb alpha rays and in the process kick out neutrons. Since neutrons have no charge, and thus cannot be measured by a Geiger counter, David had no way of knowing whether the gun was working until he recalled that paraffin throws off protons when hit by neutrons. David aimed the apparatus at some paraffin, and his Geiger counter registered what he assumed was a proton stream. His neutron gun, crude but effective, was ready. With neutron gun in hand, David was ready to irradiate. He could have concentrated on transforming previously nonradioactive elements, but in a decision that was both indicative of his personality and instrumental to his later attempt to build a breeder reactor, he wanted to use the gun on radioisotopes to increase the chances of making them fissionable. He thought that uranium-235, which is used in atomic weapons, would provide the "biggest reaction." He scoured hundreds of miles of upper Michigan in his Pontiac looking for "hot rocks" with his Geiger counter, but all he could find was a quarter trunkload of pitchblende on the shores of Lake Huron. Deciding to pursue a more bureaucratic approach, he wrote to a Czechoslovakian firm that sells uranium to commercial and university buyers, whose name was provided, he told me, by the NRC. Claiming to be a professor buying materials for a nuclear-research laboratory, he obtained a few samples of a black ore--either pitchblende or uranium dioxide, both of which contain small amounts of uranium-235 and uranium-238. David pulverized the ores with a hammer, thinking that he could then use nitric acid to isolate uranium. Unable to find a commercial source for nitric acid--probably because it is used in the manufacture of explosives and thus is tightly controlled--David made his own by heating saltpeter and sodium bisulfate, then bubbling the gas that was released through a container of water, producing nitric acid. He then mixed the acid with the powdered ore and boiled it, ending up with something that "looked like a dirty milk shake." Next he poured the "milk shake" through a coffee filter, hoping that the uranium would pass through the filter. But David miscalculated uranium's solubility, and whatever amount was present was trapped in the filter, making it difficult to purify further. Frustrated at his inability to isolate sufficient supplies of uranium, David turned his attention to thorium-232, which when bombarded with neutrons produces uranium-233, a man-made fissionable element (and, although he might not have known it then, one that can be substituted for plutonium in breeder reactors). Discovered in 1828 and named after the Norse god Thor, thorium has a very high melting point, and is thus used in the manufacture of airplane engine parts that reach extremely high temperatures. David knew from his merit-badge pamphlet that the "mantle" used in commercial gas lanterns--the part that looks like a doll's stocking and conducts the flame--is coated with a compound containing thorium-232. He bought thousands of lantern mantles from surplus stores and, using the blowtorch, reduced them into a pile of ash. David still had to isolate the thorium-232 from the ash. Fortunately, he remembered reading in one of his dad's chemistry books that lithium is prone to binding with oxygen--meaning, in this context, that it would rob thorium dioxide of its oxygen content and leave a cleaner form of thorium. David purchased $1,000 worth of lithium batteries and extracted the element by cutting the batteries in half with a pair of wire cutters. He placed the lithium and thorium dioxide together in a ball of aluminum foil and heated the ball with a Bunsen burner. Eureka! David's method purified thorium to at least 9,000 times the level found in nature and 170 times the level that requires NRC licensing. At this point, David could have used his americium neutron gun to transform thorium-232 into fissionable uranium-233. But the americium he had was not capable of producing enough neutrons, so he began preparing radium for an improved irradiating gun. Radium was used in paint that rendered luminescent the faces of clocks and automobile and airplane instrument panels until the late 1960s, when it was discovered that many clock painters, who routinely licked their brushes to make a fine point, died of cancer. David began visiting junkyards and antiques stores in search of radium-coated dashboard panels or clocks. Once he found such an item, he'd chip paint from the instruments and collect it in pill vials. It was slow going until one day, driving through Clinton Township to visit his girlfriend, Heather, he noticed that his Geiger counter went wild as he passed Gloria's Resale Boutique/Antique. The proprietor, Gloria Genette, still recalls the day when she was called at home by a store employee who said that a polite young man was anxious to buy an old table clock with a tinted green dial but wondered if she'd come down in price. She would. David bought the clock for $10. Inside he discovered a vial of radium paint left behind by a worker either accidentally or as a courtesy so that the clock's owner could touch up the dial when it began to fade. David was so overjoyed that he dropped by the boutique later that night to leave a note for Gloria, telling her that if she received another "luminus [sic] clock" to contact him immediately. "I will pay any some [sic] of money to obtain one." To concentrate the radium, David secured a sample of barium sulfate from the X-ray ward at a local hospital (staff there handed over the substance because they remembered him from his merit-badge project) and heated it until it liquefied. After mixing the barium sulfate with the radium paint chips, he strained the brew through a coffee filter into a beaker that began to glow. This time, David had judged the solubility of the two substances correctly; the radium solution passed through to the beaker. He then dehydrated the solution into crystalline salts, which he could pack into the cavity of another lead block to build a new gun. Whether David fully realized it or not, by handling purified radium he was truly putting himself in danger. Nevertheless, he now proceeded to acquire another neutron emitter to replace the aluminum used in his previous neutron gun. Faithful to Erb's instructions, he secured a strip of beryllium (which is a much richer source of neutrons than aluminum) from the chemistry department at Macomb Community College--a friend who attended the school swiped it for him--and placed it in front of the lead block that held the radium. His cute little americium gun was now a more powerful radium gun. David began to bombard his thorium and uranium powders in the hopes of producing at least some fissionable atoms. He measured the results with his Geiger counter, but while the thorium seemed to grow more radioactive, the uranium remained a disappointment. Once again, "Professor Hahn" sprang into action, writing his old friend Erb at the NRC to discuss the problem. The NRC had the answer. David's neutrons were too "fast" for the uranium).(3) He would have to slow them down using a filter of water, deuterium, or tritium. Water would have sufficed, but David likes a challenge. Consulting his list of commercially available radioactive sources, he discovered that tritium, a radioactive material used to boost the power of nuclear weapons, is found in glow-in-the-dark gun and bow sights, which David promptly bought from sporting-goods stores and mail-order catalogues. He removed the tritium contained in a waxy substance inside the sights, and then, using a variety of pseudonyms, returned the sights to the store or manufacturer for repair--each time collecting another tiny quantity of tritium. When he had enough, David smeared the waxy substance over the beryllium strip and targeted the gun at uranium powder. He carefully monitored the results with his Geiger counter over several weeks, and it appeared that the powder was growing more radioactive by the day. Now seventeen, David hit on the idea of building a model breeder reactor. He knew that without a critical pile of at least thirty pounds of enriched uranium he had no chance of initiating a sustained chain reaction, but he was determined to get as far as he could by trying to get his various radioisotopes to interact with one another. That way, he now says, "no matter what happened there would be something changing into something--some kind of action going on there." His blueprint was a schematic of a checkerboard breeder reactor he'd seen in one of his father's college textbooks. Ignoring any thought of safety, David took the highly radioactive radium and americium out of their respective lead casings and, after another round of filing and pulverizing, mixed those isotopes with beryllium and aluminum shavings, all of which he wrapped in aluminum foil. What were once the neutron sources for his guns became a makeshift "core" for his reactor. He surrounded this radioactive ball with a "blanket" composed of tiny foil-wrapped cubes of thorium ash and uranium powder, which were stacked in an alternating pattern with carbon cubes and tenuously held together with duct tape. David monitored his "breeder reactor" at the Golf Manor laboratory with his Geiger counter. "It was radioactive as heck," he says. "The level of radiation after a few weeks was far greater than it was at the time of assembly. I know I transformed some radioactive materials. Even though there was no critical pile, I know that some of the reactions that go on in a breeder reactor went on to a minute extent." Finally, David, whose safety precautions had thus far consisted of wearing a makeshift lead poncho and throwing away his clothes and changing his shoes following a session in the potting shed, began to realize that, sustained reaction or not, he could be putting himself and others in danger. (One tip-off was when the radiation was detectable through concrete.) Jim Miller, a nuclear-savvy high-school friend in whom David had confided, warned him that real reactors use control rods to regulate nuclear reactions. Miller recommended cobalt, which absorbs neutrons but does not itself become fissionable. "Reactors get hot, it's just a fact," Miller, a nervous, skinny twenty-two-year-old, said during an interview at a Burger King in Clinton Township where he worked as a cook. David purchased a set of cobalt drill bits at a local hardware store and inserted them between the thorium and uranium cubes. But the cobalt wasn't sufficient. When his Geiger counter began picking up radiation five doors down from his mom's house, David decided that he had "too much radioactive stuff in one place" and began to disassemble the reactor. He placed the thorium pellets in a shoebox that he hid in his mother's house, left the radium and americium in the shed, and packed most of the rest of his equipment into the trunk of the Pontiac 6000. WASTE DISPOSAL. If you can dump your waste directly into the kitchen drain (NOT into the sink), you are all right. If not, collect it in a plastic pail to be thrown out when you're finished. --The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments At 2:40 A.M. on August 31, 1994, the Clinton Township police responded to a call concerning a young man who had been spotted in a residential neighborhood, apparently stealing tires from a car. When the police arrived, David told them he was waiting to meet a friend. Unconvinced, officers decided to search his car. When they opened the trunk they discovered a toolbox shut with a padlock and sealed with duct tape for good measure. The trunk also contained over fifty foil-wrapped cubes of mysterious gray powder, small disks and cylindrical metal objects, lantern mantles, mercury switches, a clock face, ores, fireworks, vacuum tubes, and assorted chemicals and acids.The police were especially alarmed by the toolbox, which David warned them was radioactive and which they feared was an atomic bomb. For reasons that are hard to fathom, Sergeant Joseph Mertes, one of the arresting officers, ordered a car containing what he noted in his report was "a potential improvised explosive device" to be towed to police headquarters. "It probably shouldn't have been done, but we thought that the car had been used in the commission of a crime," Police Chief Al Ernst now says sheepishly. "When I came in at 6:30 in the morning it was already there." The police called in the Michigan State Police Bomb Squad to examine the Pontiac and the State Department of Public Health (DPH) to supply radiological assistance. The good news, the two teams discovered, was that David's toolbox was not an atomic bomb. The bad news was that David's trunk did contain radioactive materials, including concentrations of thorium--"not found in nature, at least not in Michigan"--and americium. That discovery automatically triggered the Federal Radiological Emergency Response Plan, and state officials soon were embroiled in tense phone consultations with the DOE, EPA, FBI, and NRC. With the police, David was largely uncooperative and taciturn. He provided his father's address but didn't mention his mother's house or his potting-shed laboratory. It wasn't until Thanksgiving Day that Dave Minnaar, a DPH radiological expert, finally interviewed David. David told Minnaar that he had been trying to make thorium in a form he could use to produce energy and that he hoped "his successes would help him earn his Eagle Scout status." David also finally admitted to having a backyard laboratory. On November 29, state radiological experts surveyed the potting shed. They found aluminum pie pans, jars of acids, Pyrex cups, milk crates, and other materials strewn about, much of it contaminated with what subsequent official reports would call "excessive levels" of radioactive material, especially americium-241 and thorium-232. How high? A vegetable can, for example, registered at 50,000 counts per minute--about 1,000 times higher than normal levels of background radiation. But although Minnaar's troops didn't know it at the time, they conducted their survey long after David's mother, alerted by Ken and Kathy and petrified that the government would take her home away as a result of her son's experiments, had ransacked the shed and discarded most of what she found, including his neutron gun, the radium, pellets of thorium that were far more radioactive than what the health officials found, and several quarts of radioactive powder. "The funny thing is," David now says, "they only got the garbage, and the garbage got all the good stuff." After determining that no radioactive materials had leaked outside the shed, state authorities sealed it and petitioned the federal government for help. The NRC licenses nuclear plants and research facilities and deals with any nuclear accidents that take place at those sites. David, of course, was not an NRC-licensed operation, so it was determined that the EPA, which responds to emergencies involving lost or abandoned atomic materials, should be contacted for assistance. In a memo to the EPA's Emergency Response and Enforcement Branch, the Department of Public Health noted that the materials discovered in David's lab were regulated under the Federal Atomic Energy Act and that the "extent of the radioactive material contamination within a private citizen's property beg for a controlled remediation that is beyond our authority or resources to oversee." EPA officials arrived in Golf Manor on January 25, 1995--five months after David had been stopped by the police--to conduct their own survey of the shed. Their "action memo" noted that conditions at the site "present an imminent and substantial endangerment to public health or welfare or the environment," and that there was "actual or potential exposure to nearby human populations, animals, or food chain...." The memo further stated that adverse conditions such as heavy wind, rain, or fire could cause the "contaminants to migrate or be released." A Superfund cleanup took place between June 26 and 28 at a cost of about $60,000. After the moon-suited workers dismantled the potting shed with electric saws, they loaded the remains into thirty-nine sealed barrels placed aboard a semitrailer bound for Envirocare, a dump facility located in the middle of the Great Salt Lake Desert. There, the remains of David's experiments were entombed along with tons of low-level radioactive debris from the government's atomic-bomb factories, plutonium-production facilities, and contaminated industrial sites. According to the official assessment, there was no noticeable damage to flora or fauna in the back yard in Golf Manor, but 40,000 nearby residents could have been put at risk during David's years of experimentation due to the dangers posed by the release of radioactive dust and radiation. Last May, I made the 90-mile drive from Detroit to Lansing, where Dave Minnaar works in a dreary building that houses several state environmental agencies. Because Patty Hahn had cleaned out the shed before Minnaar's men arrived on the scene, he never knew that David had built neutron guns or that he had obtained radium. Nor did he understand, until I told him, that the cubes of thorium powder found by police at the time of David's arrest were the building blocks for a model breeder reactor. "These are conditions that regulatory agencies never envision," says Minnaar. "It's simply presumed that the average person wouldn't have the technology or materials required to experiment in these areas." "The real danger ... lies in the radioactive properties of these elements. [Some] migrate to the bone marrow, where their radiation interferes with the production of red blood cells. Less than one-millionth of a gram can be fatal." --from David's notes David went into a serious depression after the federal authorities shut down his laboratory. Years of painstaking work had been thrown in the garbage or buried beneath the sands of Utah. Students at Chippewa Valley had taken to calling him "Radioactive Boy," and when his girlfriend, Heather, sent David Valentine's balloons at his high school, they were seized by the principal, who apparently feared they had been inflated with chemical gases David needed to continue his experiments. In a final indignity, some area scout leaders attempted (and failed) to deny David his Eagle Scout status, saying that his extracurricular merit-badge activities had endangered the community. In the fall of 1995, Ken and Kathy demanded that David enroll in Macomb Community College. He majored in metallurgy but skipped many of his classes and spent much of the day in bed or driving in circles around their block. Finally, Ken and Kathy gave him an ultimatum: Join the armed forces or move out of the house. They called the local recruiting office, which sent a representative to their house or called nearly every day until David finally gave in. After completing boot camp last year, he was stationed on the nuclear-powered USS Enterprise aircraft carrier. Alas, David's duties, as a lowly seaman, are of the deck-swabbing and potato-peeling variety. But long after his shipmates have gone to sleep, David stays up studying topics that interest him--currently steroids, melanin, genetic codes, antioxidants, prototype reactors, amino acids, and criminal law. And it is perhaps best that he does not work on the ship's eight reactors, for EPA scientists worry that his previous exposure to radioactivity may have greatly cut short his life. All the radioactive materials he experimented with can enter the body through ingestion, inhalation, or skin contact and then deposit in the bones and organs, where they can cause a host of ailments, including cancer. Because it is so potent, the radium that David was exposed to in a relatively small, enclosed space is most worrisome of all. Back in 1995, the EPA arranged for David to undergo a full examination at the nearby Fermi nuclear power plant. David, fearful of what he might learn, refused. Now, though, he's looking ahead. "I wanted to make a scratch in life," he explains when I ask him about his early years of nuclear research. "I've still got time. I don't believe I took more than five years off of my life." (1) Individual atoms of an element have the same number of protons in their nuclei. This "atomic number" determines the element's chemical properties and position in the periodic table. The number of neutrons within atoms of the same elements can vary, however. Known as isotopes, these variations have unique physical properties because the number of neutrons affects the atom's mass. Most elements have at least two naturally occurring, stable isotopes. But isotopes of heavier elements (those with more protons) are often unstable. Called radioisotopes, and often artificially produced, these nuclei undergo some form of radioactive decay--alpha, beta, or gamma--to become more stable. In alpha decay, the nucleus loses two protons and two neutrons, thus transforming into another element two atomic numbers below it on the periodic table. In beta decay, either a neutron is converted into a proton, and the atomic number rises, or the opposite occurs, pushing the atomic number down. Gamma radiation--in which energy is emitted but no transformation occurs--can accompany alpha or beta decay (where the atomic number falls) or can occur on its own. Americium-241, for example, is a radioisotope of americium. Its atomic number is 95, its atomic mass number is 241, and it becomes neptunium-237 through alpha decay. (2) Another role model, similar to David in temperament, was the Englishman Francis William Aston. He invented the mass spectrograph in 1920, which he used to identify more than 200 isotopes. As a child, writes Richard Rhodes, Aston "made picric-acid bombs from soda-bottle cartridges and designed and launched huge tissue-paper fire balloons...." (3) Manhattan Project scientists discovered that some neutrons can move at speeds of about 17 million miles per hour. If they are slowed down or "moderated," to about 5,000 miles per hour, they have a better chance of being absorbed by another atom. Ken Silverstein's last article for Harper's Magazine, "The Boeing Formation," appeared in the May 1997 issue. He lives in Washington, D.C.

  23. This story is still much older by XO · · Score: 1

    Harper's didn't run the story until it was old news, at least for those of us in Michigan, where it was "local news"!

    After I caught up on this story (admittedly, I had completely forgotten about it when I moved over to the Metro Detroit area, until I picked it up in a magazine while waiting for an appointment somewhere) 3 years ago, I was working about 2 miles from where this all happened.. drove by there for kicks. Didn't seem like anybody/thing was glowing. lol

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  24. Cool, I going for my cloning merit badge... by zubernerd · · Score: 1

    I saw the title, and thought that a college student had successful cloned something in his backyard shed. That being said, I off to do that in my garage... then I can be get a story on slashdot.
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  25. Interesting but... by jonerik · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's certainly an interesting story. In spite of being an incredibly stupid thing to do, the kid definitely earned his geek merit badge with his little stunt. "You installed Linux on your PS2? Hey, that's great - I built a breeder reactor out of old watches."

    Still, it's an old story. Maybe it's just a slow news day, but how is this particularly newsworthy?

    1. Re:Interesting but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the next update of the Slash code, can we include a script to automatically delete the accounts of any fucko asking "is this really news for nerds? is this really stuff that matters?"

      If you don't think it's important, champ, DON'T TAKE TIME OUT OF YOUR OBVIOUSLY BUSY, BUSY, -BUSY- DAY TO COMMENT ON IT.

    2. Re:Interesting but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was impressed by how he did everything the hard way. If it were up to me I would have sent him back to the cub scouts for a few years.

    3. Re:Interesting but... by Luyseyal · · Score: 2

      so he could irradiate all those little brats? :)
      -l

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    4. Re:Interesting but... by JWhitlock · · Score: 1
      Well, I was interested - I heard about this story, but I was unable to find a good summary.

      That being said, I found one story interesting today: China cracking down on Internet cafes after a fire in an illegal cafe kills 24. The Beijing government is using it as an excuse to stop public Internet access, and the Chinese PR machine is putting local news stations to shame saying how the Internet and computer games corrupt the young. The info noose is pulled a little tighter in China tonight...

  26. Radiation by sean23007 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I don't believe it took more than 5 years off my life. The amount of years it took off the lives of my offspring, however, is yet to be seen..."

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    1. Re:Radiation by LordKronos · · Score: 1

      Not a problem, since he's probably now sterile

    2. Re:Radiation by sean23007 · · Score: 2

      Right. That's what I was getting at. But thanks.

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    3. Re:Radiation by Patrick13 · · Score: 1

      I don't know about that, there's a woman for every man out there: as the saying goes: "every dog has his day".

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  27. Kleen & Dry by DonkeyHote · · Score: -1

    Africa Needs to be Nuked, They ARE the terrorist threat.

  28. Posted Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was posted here about a year ago

  29. Not first post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It would of been, but my new super 37337 2.5.23 linux kernel crashed! I had to reboot and wait for the kernel to load, X to load, Gnome to load, Mozilla to load, Slashdot to load over a serial modem and don't forget the 20 second rule.

    Conclusion, linux sucks at fps!

  30. Re:This? Again? Come on, he even posted a reply to by awx · · Score: 1

    yeah, didn't he say he was in the navy now and banned from working with nuclear subs, bombs etc becuase he's already received over the maximum safe dosage for a human being in their lifetime?

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  31. Is it that slow a day? by pgpckt · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    Seriously, why are we posting this 4 *year* old story? And the editors even know it is 4 years old!

    I don't suppose a story about Mozilla vs. Microsoft on CNN would be more useful than this old, useless story?

    2002-06-17 17:43:06 Writeup on Mozilla vs. Microsoft (articles,mozilla) (rejected)

    Hmmm...I guess not. Oh well. Old stories for all!

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    1. Re:Is it that slow a day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, it's sad that IE has such a large userbase. What happened? Did the fact that it comes on all Windows machines really kill Netscape or did it have more to do with the fact that Netscape 4.0 sucked compared to IE 4.0? IE is much faster and renders pages much better than Netscape 4.x.. it's not even funny. Where did Netscape drop the ball? And Netscape 6.x? Don't even get me started on that pile of crap. It was a fucking Mozilla beta for god's sake. It didn't belong with a Netscape name on it at ALL. It totally turned off about 15 people and caused them to switch to IE 6.0.. these were hardcore Netscape 4.7 users but they were sick of that stagnating product that didn't render pages correctly anymore. Oh well. R.I.P. Netscape. You started a revolution but Microsoft beat you at it by undercutting your distribution. Mozilla is fine for fringe users like me on my Linux box though. On the other hand, if I could get IE 6 on Linux I'd use it in a heartbeat. It's a wonderful product when it's not being exploited.

    2. Re:Is it that slow a day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So your criticism about the timeliness of the story is actually a thinly-veiled whine about having your story rejected. Grow up.

      Not everybody heard this story, and 4 years ago Slashdot was a LOT smaller. The story has become timely again because of the dirty bomb stuff and the fact that it is possible for a terrorist to come up with dangerous weapons.

      So GET OVER IT!!

    3. Re:Is it that slow a day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, your story didn't get posted, but at least you got some cheap Karma :)

    4. Re:Is it that slow a day? by Rupert · · Score: 3, Informative

      Mozilla -> Netscape -> AOL -> AOLTW <- Time Warner <- CNN

      No, I don't think that's a useful story ;-)

      Actually, I just read it. It's still not a useful story.

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    5. Re:Is it that slow a day? by pgpckt · · Score: 1


      I am not bitching about my story. I have 50 karma (well, 48 right now thanks to being modded down). I was bitching that this story is A) out of date B) not new worthy in the slightest C) there are other stories that while questionable (mine) are more releveant then what was posted D) It wasn't even an oversight, the editor's did it on purpose.

      Not having my story posted is not really that big a deal, but it seemed like a good time to plug a more relevent story than the one we are currently dealing with.

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    6. Re:Is it that slow a day? by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "I don't suppose a story about Mozilla vs. Microsoft on CNN [cnn.com] would be more useful than this old, useless story?"

      Hasn't Mozilla been covered ad nauseum on Slashdot already?

      At least with this story, I got a peek into how nuclear reactors work, and I had no idea what a "Breeder Reactor" was until today.

      I dunno about you guys, but I'm all for diversity. Even if the story is 'old', doesn't mean we've all heard it.

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    7. Re:Is it that slow a day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just wait till they post your rejected story tomorrow submitted by someone else. Remember it must be *old* news to get onto slashdot.

    8. Re:Is it that slow a day? by Vegeta99 · · Score: 2

      Yeah mozilla is covered very often here, however, unfortunatly, this is the 4th time this article has been posted.

    9. Re:Is it that slow a day? by jazman_777 · · Score: 1
      I don't suppose a story about Mozilla vs. Microsoft on CNN [cnn.com] would be more useful than this old, useless story?

      Best quote: "Microsoft declined comment on how much of a threat it considers Mozilla, saying it cannot speak on rival products."

      GNU/Linux is not a rival, then, right from the horse's as^H^Hmouth.

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    10. Re:Is it that slow a day? by EastCoastSurfer · · Score: 2

      LOL, happened just like I said. They posted your article by someone else just a little later. Just do what I did...quit submitting articles.

  32. The Scout Law by datastew · · Score: 5, Funny
    In a final indignity, some area scout leaders attempted (and failed) to deny David his Eagle Scout status, saying that his extracurricular merit-badge activities had endangered the community.

    A Scout is:

    Trustworthy,
    Loyal,
    Helpful,
    Friendly,
    Courteous,
    Kind,
    Obedient,
    Cheerful,
    Thrifty,
    Brave,
    Clean,
    and Reverent.

    I think the only thing they could fault him for is "Clean," but I'd give him bonus points for "Thrifty." Makes me proud to be a Boy Scout.

    1. Re:The Scout Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd say breaking nuclear regulatory laws would fall under "Obedient" and lying to people to obtain materials would fall under "Trustworthy".

    2. Re:The Scout Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh.. what about Trustworth.

      I trust Scouts not to radiate my family if I live two doors down..

      Not trustworth.

      I'm supposed to belive he was smart enough to build a breeder reactor but too stupid to consider the consequences of radiation poisioning and cancer?

      No, he should not be a boyscout. Certainly not an Eagle.

    3. Re:The Scout Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's Trustworthy there slick.

      Last thing we need to do is enourage our youth from not being involved in such things as Boy Scouts. It does give them direction.

      2 Pennies.

    4. Re:The Scout Law by jiminim · · Score: 1

      He might have broken the Scout Oath too:
      "Keep myself physically strong..."

    5. Re:The Scout Law by Spencerian · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps "Irradiated" might fit now, too.

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    6. Re:The Scout Law by unicron · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'd be a little worried about who we let in now. If it was that easy for this kid, I'm scared to see what's coming..

      "Troop, these are our newest members, Ahmed and Muhammed. They will be invovled in portable nuclear devices for their Eagle Scout requirements"

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    7. Re:The Scout Law by masterkool · · Score: 0

      Dont forget the oath: "On my honor, I will do my best, to do my duty, to god and my country..." by blowing up a small portion of it with my homemade breeder reactor.

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  33. Hey! look at this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/06/0 3/0026226

    1. Re:Hey! look at this! by niola · · Score: 1

      Heh, I was just looking for this article because I remembered this artcile from Slashdot, but this site has a pretty shitty search engine :)

      --Jon

    2. Re:Hey! look at this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      hyperlink here

    3. Re:Hey! look at this! by seann · · Score: 1
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  34. Pres Assasination Plot Discoved on Slashdot by DonkeyHote · · Score: -1


    South Africa, by itself, has very probably killed more people in the course of its "secret" warfare on its neighbors during the 1970s than the PLO, Red Brigades, Baader-Meinhof gang, Carlos, Cuba and Libya taken together. In a single raid on the Namibian refugee camp of Kassinga on May 4, 1978, South African forces killed over 600 people, a large proportion women and children. Many hundreds have been killed in Angola in search and destroy operations aimed at "the deliberate killing and terrorizing of Angolan civilians in any area where SWAPO might find support or help." The ruthlessness of these operations, with the indiscriminate killing of men, women and children, the burning down of all houses, the destruction of mission hospitals, staggers the imagination, although once again the Free Press has kept this largely under cover, preferring to concentrate on Soviet maneuvers on the Polish borders rather than actual invasions of African states by the apartheid regime.
    Much of this destruction was carried out by hundreds of mercenaries, although regular South African forces have also been involved. According to one defector, who became "disgusted and tired of killing civilians."
    "Our main job is to take an area and clear it. We sweep through it and we kill everything in front of us, cattle, goats, people, everything. We are out to stop SWAPO and so we stop them getting into the villages for food and water. But half the time the locals don't know what's going on. We're just fucking them up and it gets out of hand. Some of the guys get a bit carried away.
    [He describes an operation in southern Angola during which two children appeared and started to run.] "... They'd taken their clothes off to show they weren't armed. We shot this young girl. She must have been about five. And we shot her father. We shot about nine in all.
    I don't know how, but somehow this girl's mother and her sister didn't get shot. Well, we left them there and carried on with our patrol. She followed us: This mother and her little kid. She followed us all day, just walked along about 100 meters behind us. She didn't cry or say anything. This freaked me out."
    Other defectors, some of them former white mercenaries from Rhodesia, have confirmed these accounts of merciless killing of civilians and scorched earth policies that have caused massive destruction in southern Angola. The Angolan government itself estimates that just during the 18 month period ending in December 1980, the South Africans mounted 13 major air and land assaults as well as numerous small-scale attacks.
    Similar South African operations have been carried out on a hit-and-run basis in Zimbabwe and Mozambique. Their purpose has been clear. South Africa intends to continue its wholly illegal occupation of Namibia, as a buffer and plunder state, and its murderous attacks on the black front-line states are partly to destroy SWAPO bases and sources of assistance, partly to injure and weaken countries on its border and on the border of Namibia that would be likely to aid Namibian independence. As is noted in a Wall Street Journal report,
    South Africa waits, scuttling peace initiatives like the all-party conference in Geneva last winter and waging a generally low-level guerrilla war that costs it little- given Namibia's diamond, uranium and copper wealth- and gives its troops some counterinsurgency training in the bargain.
    This Journal report also calls attention to the great "encourage meet" given South Africa's escalated violence against Angola by the new anti-terrorist Reagan administration-indirectly in its obvious toleration/sanction of the Israeli bombing raid on Iraq in the new anti-Libyan campaign, and more directly in Washington's warmth and understanding of the "context" that may be impelling the apartheid regime to occupy Namibia illegally and to kill black Africans without restraint.
    The Reagan administration's role in the (recent) sharp escalation of South African terrorism can hardly be overstated. Only the Free Press and the most supine or reactionary leaders of the Free World could fail to see that code words like "realism," "understanding of the problems," "context," and "quiet diplomacy" mean that "we are behind you all the way; understand that any criticisms we make are strictly PR, to allow our allies to pretend that we object to your assaults on your neighbors (or your own black majority). " Even before Reagan, U.S. business had found South Africa profitable and therefore good, and our military-intelligence apparatus has long had the warmest relations with BOSS; but under liberal administrations, and even under Nixon and Ford, the loss of national prestige from open alliance with apartheid and Namibian aggression had a constraining effect. With the extreme right now exercising significant power in Washington (sharing it with the traditional conservative business interests), the bars are down-the formerly muted alliances with South African racism and Third World fascists have now become open and warm.
    The mass media have played a strategic role in covering up the massive transnational violence of the apartheid regime. First and foremost, they have suppressed the facts. These are available and can be found in black African, radical, underground, and, to a lesser extent, liberal-left European publications. Extensive and horrifying details were given in the British Guardian series, cited above, based on on-the-spot reporting and interviews with a number of South African mercenary defectors. This series has not been reprinted in the United States, summaries have not been made available, and similar on-the-spot coverage in Angola is not provided. As in the case of East Timor following its invasion by our client state Indonesia, the Free Press does not go to the victims-government or refugees-it gets its information from the propaganda services of the invader. In connection with this open invasion of Angola, the New York Times has carried two front page and two second page articles based on South African handouts, describing "captured Soviet advisers," the view of the war as seen from South Africa, and a portrayal of the loot captured by the South Africans. Nothing from the end of the Angolan victims.
    What makes the "Soviet adviser" gambit doubly dishonest is that the Cubans and Russians are in Angola mainly because South Africa's incursions and support of Savimbi pose a serious threat to the Angolan regime. The Wall Street Journal account cited earlier points out that
    Both publicly and in private talks with western governments, Angola insists it would order the Cubans to withdraw if it were assured of an end to South African raids. Conversely, it warns that further attacks could force it to reach out even further to the Soviets, who seek political gain in the turbulence and instability of southern Africa.
    This highlights once again the monumental hypocrisy of the west in its pretense at concern over terrorism, with its apologetics for preferred terror in terms of a Soviet presence! The preferred terror is also not only large scale and extremely ugly, it is in support of aggression in Namibia and protection of the cruel system of apartheid in South Africa itself.

  35. heh, heh by smoondog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Quoate 1: Finally, David, whose safety precautions had thus far consisted of wearing a makeshift lead poncho and throwing away his clothes and changing his shoes following a session in the potting shed

    Quote 2: the house was rocked by an explosion in the basement. There they found David lying semiconscious on the floor, his eyebrows smoking. Unaware that red phosphorus is pyrophoric, David had been pounding it with a screwdriver and ignited it.

    Quote 3: David pulverized the ores with a hammer, thinking that he could then use nitric acid to isolate uranium. [...] David made his own [nitric acid] by heating saltpeter and sodium bisulfate, then bubbling the gas that was released through a container of water, producing nitric acid. He then mixed the acid with the powdered ore and boiled it, ending up with something that "looked like a dirty milk shake."

    Quote 4: Another year, David was expelled from camp when [...] he stole a number of smoke detectors to disassemble for parts he required for his experiments.

    This kid is a walking advertisement for the Darwin Awards ...

    -Sean

    1. Re:heh, heh by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 4, Funny
      This kid is a walking advertisement for the Darwin Awards ...

      Yeah, but the "walking" part is what keeps him from winning one.

      mark
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    2. Re:heh, heh by Planetes · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >This kid is a walking advertisement for the Darwin Awards

      True, but at the time, so were the Wright brothers and most of the other early inventors in the field of aeronautics (I mean, come on.. those things were actually supposed to fly!?! bah, man isn't meant to fly.. *grin*).. Stupidity and Ignorance are not the same thing. The kid obviously wasn't stupid and he very well could end up being an important player in the scientific world at some point.

      This isn't to say what he did was smart or wise. Simply that doing "stupid" things doesn't make one stupid.

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    3. Re:heh, heh by CanadaDave · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Other beauties:

      "He once appeared at a scout meeting with a bright orange face caused by an overdose of canthaxanthin, which he was taking to test methods of artificial tanning."

      "Kathy then forbade David from experimenting in her home." That means no more boy scout sleepovers okay David?

      "Sure, they thought it was odd that David often wore a gas mask in the shed and would sometimes discard his clothing after working there until two in the morning, but they chalked it up to their own limited education."

      "I never saw him turn green or glow in the dark,"

      "He majored in metallurgy but skipped many of his classes and spent much of the day in bed or driving in circles around their block.". ???

    4. Re:heh, heh by gmack · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The rules only state that you have to prevent yourself from breeding. With his exposure to that much radiation he may very well be a contestant.

    5. Re:heh, heh by Pathwalker · · Score: 4, Informative

      You said:
      "He once appeared at a scout meeting with a bright orange face caused by an overdose of canthaxanthin, which he was taking to test methods of artificial tanning."

      I reply:

      I went to high school with Dave when this was going on, and I was in his scout troop as well.

      I never saw him bright orange at a scout meeting, but I did see him looking like a carrot shortly after he graduated. He didn't get into artificial tanning until after he graduated.

    6. Re:heh, heh by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1

      Ha! Good point!

      mark

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    7. Re:heh, heh by CanadaDave · · Score: 1

      Was he ever glowing green at school?

    8. Re:heh, heh by Travoltus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      EXACTLY!!!!!!!! The word "Mad Scientist", at worst, comes to mind.

      The best thing anyone could do for this boy is to take him over to Lawrence Livermore, educate him on nuclear safety procedures, and quite vigorously complete his training.

      Despite his RELATIVELY unsafe procedures, we obviously have one smart kid. I don't know of too many ADULTS who can figure out, much less secure, the knowledge AND materials for a breeder reactor.

      Kids like this should be fiercely cultivated.

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    9. Re:heh, heh by Pathwalker · · Score: 2

      No, but he showed me some strange looking burns once. He wanted to know if I thought that radiation exposure could have caused them.

      Also, when he brought in a giger counter one day, we were messing around with it during lunch . I noticed that it did give a higher reading when he, rather than one of the other people at the table, was using it.

    10. Re:heh, heh by Saint+Fnordius · · Score: 1

      "Complete his training"? I think the way he's going, it will require courses in cackling, dramatic lighting and keeping your white persian from coughing up hairballs on the Console of Doom.

    11. Re:heh, heh by bob_jordan · · Score: 2
      > This kid is a walking advertisement for the Darwin Awards ...


      I would be more worried about how many legs his grandkids will be walking on.


      Bob.

  36. What would you do with your own atomic reactor? by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 5, Funny
    Just a small list:

    • Pipe the radiation at the nads at those guys who feel the need to drive by your house at 2:30 AM with their base pounding loud enough to shake windows.
    • UPS? We don't need no UPS!
    • Take it to bed with you on those cold, winter nights.
    • Who needs a fridge when you can kill all the bacteria just with putting it in the "shed" out back for a few minutes?
    • For that matter, forget the stove.

    1. Re:What would you do with your own atomic reactor? by Cryptnotic · · Score: 2

      All your bass are belong to us?

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    2. Re:What would you do with your own atomic reactor? by mandolin · · Score: 2
      David decided that he had "too much radioactive stuff in one place" and began to disassemble the reactor. He placed the thorium pellets in a shoebox that he hid in his mother's house, left the radium and americium in the shed, and packed most of the rest of his equipment into the trunk of the Pontiac 6000.

      I'd be sure to re-enact various scenes from Repo Man.

    3. Re:What would you do with your own atomic reactor? by symbolic · · Score: 2

      * Pipe the radiation at the nads at those guys who feel the need to drive by your house at 2:30 AM with their base pounding loud enough to shake windows.

      I couldn't agree MORE!!!!! Either that, or just force them to rewire a bit so that the current runs through the nads first before it gets to the speakers...not as interesting from a scientific perspective, but I'll bet it's effective.

    4. Re:What would you do with your own atomic reactor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Pipe the radiation at the nads at those guys who feel the need to drive by your house at 2:30 AM with their base pounding loud enough to shake windows.

      Personally, I'd just like to see the look on their faces after hitting their car with an EMP device while its booming down the road.

      "Look ma! No power brakes!" >:D

    5. Re:What would you do with your own atomic reactor? by rawg · · Score: 1

      I had to move away.... Far away.

      I was thinking about building a directional EMP gun. Aim it out the window. I figured that it would kill all my computers also, so I never tried.

      But just think about them asshole, every time they drive by their electronics fry.

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    6. Re:What would you do with your own atomic reactor? by Galvatron · · Score: 2
      Pipe the radiation at the nads at those guys who feel the need to drive by your house at 2:30 AM with their base pounding loud enough to shake windows.


      As one who spent a semester in a dorm near a motorcycle hangout, I'd like to add bikers to the list of people whose nads need to be irradiated. Motorcyles are much worse than car stereos.

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  37. Old stories on Slashdot: #@ +1 ; Financially @# by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are a leading indicator of its impending demise.
    Stay tuned for a story along the same lines
    as

    Kuro5hin Closing

  38. This teaches me to trust no one by Ilan+Volow · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yesterday at Wal-mart I saw a suspicious-looking guy wearing a"Death to America" T-shirt buying up all the smoke detectors. I just assumed he was overzealous about fire safety.

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    1. Re:This teaches me to trust no one by n3r0.m4dski11z · · Score: 0

      shit i knew someone was watching me...

      on to plan B i suppose

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    2. Re:This teaches me to trust no one by sean23007 · · Score: 4, Funny
      In related news, Vice President Dick Cheney has announced that the country should be on full alert of a possible nuclear attack on American soil in the near future, adding that there is no reason to believe it could happen, just that we need to be more careful. Attorney General John Ashcroft followed with a press conference condemning all manufacturers of smoke detectors, calling them "domestic terrorists" and adding them to the until now rather exclusive membership of the "Axis of Evil." Effective noon tomorrow, all smoke detector factories will be shut down, and anyone attempting to purchase a smoke detector from any such radioactive material dispensing locations as "Walmart" or "Kmart" or "Target," etc, will be arrested on the spot and handed over to the military until such time as they can be tried, or the War on Terrorism is over. "Whichever comes first," said Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who recently submitted an application to President George W. Bush to change the name of his department from the old, boring name of "Department of Defense" to something more exciting and relevant, such as the "Department of Capture, Murder, and Torture of Foreigners." Also included as options in his application were "Department of Sexy Guns" and "Department of Kiss My Ass, You Foreign Scumbags !" Rumsfeld requested that the exclamation point be emphasized rather heavily, as it added a certain levity to the situation, which he prefers, as it puts him in the proper mood to bomb those filthy targets.

      That should be an article in the Onion, shouldn't it? Hehe... :)
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    3. Re:This teaches me to trust no one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should have told him that some Wal-marts carries the "Blast-O-Matic" caps in their electrical supply section...

      -cmh

  39. Wow... this is old news... by loucura! · · Score: 1

    I originally read this in the Reader's Digest three years ago. I've been looking for the article ever since.

    In lieu of recent happenings, perhaps, it would be best not to mention the fact that I had wanted a nuclear reactor too.

    Oh... wait... there is the door.

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  40. Huh? by Peapod · · Score: 1

    Slow news day chrisd/scubacuda?

  41. Re:VERY OLD News is now NEW because it's now on /. by bellings · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    It's official - /. has begun it's downhill slide with this "news item"

    Note to moderators: This should be "+5 droll", or "+5 sarcastic", or even "+5 troll". Since none of those are available, I guess "+5 funny" will do.

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  42. 1 year 2 weeks ago I read the same thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone forgot to search slashdot before posting.

    01/06/03

  43. Just remeber... by DonkeyHote · · Score: -1

    The NSA/FBI/CIA/JASA are watching you. they're logging all your traffic and soon they'll be at your home to arrest you for charges relating to 9/11, THE AC'S are the true terrorist threat!

  44. but by Jacer · · Score: 1

    is it even true? i always thought it was a joke...

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    1. Re:but by ceejayoz · · Score: 2

      Yes, it's true... the original Harpers article had photos and I think I remember hearing about it on CNN a while back, too :-)

  45. My roommate... by lorenlal · · Score: 1

    was a friend of this guy (and in his Boy Scout troop). He helped him procure a few materials (especially the sprinkler pieces).

    It's seriously an old story, but it is nice to know that this guy is helping out the Navy with their reactors.

    Seriously, who better to monitor these mothers than a guy who can make a backup on his own?

    1. Re:My roommate... by ocbwilg · · Score: 2

      It's seriously an old story, but it is nice to know that this guy is helping out the Navy with their reactors.

      Seriously, who better to monitor these mothers than a guy who can make a backup on his own?


      Except that he's not helping the Navy out with their reactors. He's just regular Joe Seaman, swabbing the decks and what-not. It was mentioned at the end of the article that it was probably for the best considering his past exposure to radiation.

  46. Related to Otto Hahn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this guy related to Otto Hahn .. nobel prize winner that discovered fission.

    Seems a sort of coincidence.

    -Johan

  47. Pathetic? Lame? Why? by CaptDeuce · · Score: 1

    While this is an oldish story (1998) it is not the pathetic self congratulatory lame princeton story.

    What I would like to know is (a) why the Princeton story is pathetic and lame and (b) how we are supposed to evaluate such a claim with nothing but a link to Amazon.com.

    As far as I can tell, the Harper's story is pretty smarmy. Note all the claims that he was a "normal" kid by all appearances (as if that matters) ... but all the time he was playing with evil nucular materials! Bwahahahahaha!

    Blech.

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  48. Similar to first experiments by Stalke · · Score: 1

    Someone with a science background can fill in the details that I've missed, but from my understanding, the first atomic pile that actually producted nuclear fission in any large form was setup in a squash court at some university. Basically then put uranium bricks in a corner of the court, put in some other bricks to act as the moderator and they produced the first working nuc. It just goes to show you, american's shouldn't be worried about Osama bin Laden and his followers halfway around the world, they should be worried about High School students working in their basements..

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    1. Re:Similar to first experiments by Lil'wombat · · Score: 1

      You mean the first controlled nuclear fission that occurred at the University of Chicago underneath the bleachers of the football stadium?

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  49. A complaint! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The ADS on $la$hdot and the O$DN ANNOY ME.

    Ones that annoyme most,
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    AnimeFu/Megatokyo adverts! Japanime sucks, so does slashdot!

    Microsoft Visual Studio .net adverts! Why the FUCK are you letting the devil advertise with you. Oh now I remember, open sores have no way to make money so they ask big companies to support them!

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  50. Repost from last year? by Titusdot+Groan · · Score: 1
    This is a repost from last year

    Well at least the timelines are getting longer than 2 days :-)

    1. Re:Repost from last year? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. Not only that it was old when it was first posted, it had to be reposted.

      It's about time /. made a list of reposted stories, so we don't end up with even more reposts of this story (it is entertainging though, the first time).

  51. sad really. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think of all that wasted time he could have been masturbating...

  52. The Jet-powered Chevy Impala by GuyMannDude · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Umm, if I remember properly isn't this an 'urban legend' like the jet powered chevy impala?

    Actually the story of the jet powered chevy isn't an urban legend -- it really happened. Fox had a clip of the attempt on one of their "World's ..." shows. Some moron simply fastened two makeshift wings onto the sides of his car and equipped it with a jet engine. He was planning to jump over a river using a ramp. Well, when the car left the edge of the ramp and began the "jump" the wings fell off immediately and the car starting doing an end-over-end flip.

    I remember laughing my ass off at that clip. It just looked so stupid. You could tell the moron had no clue what he was doing. Even when the announcer said the guy died in the attempt, it was still impossible to stop laughing. I guess maybe I'm a sicko or something...

    GMD

    1. Re:The Jet-powered Chevy Impala by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      http://198.64.129.160/autos/dream/jato.htm

      The Lewis Caroll quote at the bottom of my page here is amusing: "What I tell you three times is true".

      Clearly the Impala was part of an evil plot by Freemasons.

      I shall have to remain anonymous, of course, it's well known that CmrTaco is part of the Illuminati infrastructure. I shall burn this building and escape whilst he is tracking my IP information.

    2. Re:The Jet-powered Chevy Impala by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      Lol!! I heard a mutated version of this story. Instead what happened was they were going to make it a 'rail ride'. They pointed it towards a mining shaft so that they wouldn't lose the car. (The story's very long so my details may be a little muddled..)

      When the ignited the rocket, the car drifted off the rails a bit and collided with the entry to the mine, causing some rocks to fall on it. The kids that set this up went home, not sure what to do. They had no idea how to hide the car. (The rocket they used came from a junk yard and their dad woulda been in huge trouble if they traced the JATO rocket to him.)

      A day or two later, a huge dust storm covered the area in a thick layer of dust. They drove out to investigate, only to find that pieces of the car were exposed. They backed up and left.

      The tracks that they made when they left made it look a little like the car had driven down this road and turned sharply into the side of a mountain. The rails leading to the mine were submersed in dust/dirt, so the investigators cooked up a story that somebody tried to drive across the desert in this thing and wiped out.

      I may have gotten a couple of the details flubbed, but here's my source for the story:

      http://www.cultdeadcow.com/cDc_files/cDc-363/

      This is a first hand account of the guy who claims to have been the source of this urban legend. Is it true? Heck I dunno, but it's a fun story to read. It's reasonably believable too.

      It's a pity this'll probably get modded down. Afterall, the more we understand about urban legends, the easier it is to fish the truth out of them. Somebody might read the account of the Rocket Powered Chevy Impala and figure out if the 'Breeder Reactor' story is an urban legend.

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    3. Re:The Jet-powered Chevy Impala by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Saw this story in wired about a year ago

  53. New troll flamewar opportunity by negativekarmanow+tm · · Score: -1

    I thought it was Cabal of Logged In Trolls?
    Gives it more of an elitist quality.

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  54. old old by CowbertPrime · · Score: 1

    this is very old. I discovered this story last year, apparently from a couple of links from some other /. article...

  55. Kind of apt by b0bby · · Score: 1

    I remember reading this story years ago & it was the first thing that popped into my head when the news of the 'dirty bomber' came out. This kid managed to piece together a decent amount of radioactive material. Since the real point of a dirty bomb is fear, the actual amount of material doen't have to be that great to achieve the desired effect ie. closing down a large section of a major metropolitan area for cleanup & causing mass panic. If a boy scout can gather this much material, then any dedicated individual can.

  56. Only 5 years by parad0x01 · · Score: 1

    "I don't believe I took more than five years off my life..."

    ...Unfortunately those were the years I was planning on having sex...damnit!

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  57. Hire this person immediately! by acordes · · Score: 2

    If I was a corporation (or a government lab) I would be clamoring to hire this kid. He's smart, he's motivated, he has more ingenuity than 20 average people combined, and he obviously has great science skills. Put him in a lab with whatever supplies he needs, and just sit back and let him invents stuff.

    1. Re:Hire this person immediately! by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Actually, They should agree to sponser his eduaction in exchange for his employment later.
      He should not be wasting his time redoing that which has been done, and he needs to understand safety.

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    2. Re:Hire this person immediately! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and just sit back and let him invents stuff

      Are you really Popeye?

    3. Re:Hire this person immediately! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If I was a corporation (or a government lab) I would be clamoring to hire this kid. He's smart, he's motivated, he has more ingenuity than 20 average people combined, and he obviously has great science skills. Put him in a lab with whatever supplies he needs, and just sit back and let him invents stuff.
      And he'll have your computers' power-supply boxes replaced with mini nuclear reactors in no time!
    4. Re:Hire this person immediately! by WatertonMan · · Score: 1

      Well yea, he is smart and ingenius. However he will steal all your smoke detectors. . .

      Just think what this kid would have done if he was some intern at the lab from Terminator 2?

    5. Re:Hire this person immediately! by delcielo · · Score: 2

      On the other hand, he's petulant, emotionally detached, and has no qualms about breaking a few laws/rules if it suits his whim.

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  58. Re:Pathetic? Lame? Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, he was an evil kid playing with normal nuclear materials! Damn journalists always get it wrong.


    Oh, and this is an old story. It even made it to /. about a year ago.

  59. Very very old story by spac · · Score: 1
    This was posted on slashdot some time ago here: Duct Tape (Boy makes nuclear reactor story)

    I think the story was just an urban legend. For a geiger counter to be reading that high from across the street, the radiation near the source would have to be pretty intense.

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    1. Re:Very very old story by ocbwilg · · Score: 2

      I think the story was just an urban legend. For a geiger counter to be reading that high from across the street, the radiation near the source would have to be pretty intense.

      You don't say? Well...perhaps if you had actually read the linked article rather than the 2 sentence blurb that describes it you would have known that the radiation at that point was quite intense. In fact, that's about the time that he decided that the reactor was dangerous and dismantled it.

    2. Re:Very very old story by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      I think he's talking about the anecdote that is in some forms of this urban legend, that the kid drove in front of an antiques store and picked up the dial on a radium clock from his car mounted geiger counter.

      Same goes for what you assumed though, ever heard of the inverse square law? For an omnidirectional radiation source located 30 feet away to register much higher than background on any normal geiger counter, it would have to be incredibly strong, like enough to make you very sick, very fast.

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    3. Re:Very very old story by Tuonenkielo · · Score: 1

      He didn'tpick out just the dial, but a whole can of the radium-rich paint used to make those glow in dark dials.

    4. Re:Very very old story by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      He didn'tpick out just the dial, but a whole can of the radium-rich paint used to make those glow in dark dials.

      Wow, this story keeps changing and growing. In most accounts of this urban legend, it's a vial of radium paint inside the clock.

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  60. WAKE UP!!! THIS WAS POSTED A YEAR AGO!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/06/0 3/0026226

    Hello editors? Are we awake?
    The same story was posted a year ago on slashdot.

    Knock, knock, anybody in there?

  61. That's all we need: by newerbob · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Paramilitary children's groups that steal taxpayer money by representing themselves as private organizations when they're really CHURCHES building nuclear weapons.

    The BSA is a Church for Boys. Even the Supreme Court said as much when they (rightly) said they can discriminate. I don't disagree with that one bit.

    Howevever, all other TAX EXEMPT CHRURCHES aren't given special access to military installations, 1000s of acres of land, and the ablility to hire LOBBIESTS in WASHINGTON.

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    1. Re:That's all we need: by newerbob · · Score: 1

      This was not flamebait. WHAT ever HAPPENED TO THE metamoderator

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    2. Re:That's all we need: by Art+Tatum · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oops! You forgot to mention the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy!

    3. Re:That's all we need: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, yes, that was total flamebait. You obviously have strong feelings about this, but you used language far beyond that which would be used in a rational argument on the matter. I agree that "private" organizations should not be funded by "public" money and then feel free to ignore public laws. (for the record, I'd prefer it if the government didn't take our money and redistribute to organizations of any kind, and leave the decisions about whom the public chooses to support to the individuals who make up the public)

      However, calling by the Boy Scouts "paramilitary," a "church," and accusing them of "stealing taxpayer money" and "building nuclear weapons," while using all caps, you've obviously itching to start a flame war, and that intent constitutes flamebait.

      You get nothing. Good day, sir.

    4. Re:That's all we need: by newerbob · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I feel sorry for you. Your scoutmaster must have anally raped you as a child and you became gay.

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    5. Re:That's all we need: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I've had it with /. and the Nellie Queens that run it.

      Why don't you go suck Steve Job's dick and then cum all over your redhat?

    6. Re:That's all we need: by newerbob · · Score: 1
      What if this kid was a member of "Al Queda" instead of the Boy Scouts of America?

      Or let's give a more moderate example, suppose he was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, an organization that's legally allowed to exist, chose who it wants to be a member, and hold demonstrations.

      Now, if this kid was a member of the KKK instead of the Boy Scouts, would you be concerned if the Government didn't do anything to follow up?

      And if you would be, why don't you care if it's the Boy Scouts? Personally, I don't see much difference between the two groups, except one gets $$$ and special treatment from the US government and one doesn't.

      I support the rights of both the KKK and the BSA to exist.

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  62. I read this a long time ago by Nf1nk · · Score: 5, Informative

    And at the time I remeber the consensus was that he hadn't made any kind of reactor at all, all he had actualy managed to do was isolate a bunch of radioactive junk and produce a pile of low grade radioactive waste. No fission reaction had been accomplished, nothing useful had been done. Not much had been learned, except that if you quietly bang around in your shed no one will pay much attention until you blow something up or get busted by the cops.

    That and work on his own personal Darwin award

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    1. Re:I read this a long time ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't realize that the BSA had a "Darwin" merit badge.

    2. Re:I read this a long time ago by Gid1 · · Score: 3

      From the article:

      David [...] targeted the gun at uranium powder. He carefully monitored the results with his Geiger counter over several weeks, and it appeared that the powder was growing more radioactive by the day. [...] "It was radioactive as heck," he says. "The level of radiation after a few weeks was far greater than it was at the time of assembly. I know I transformed some radioactive materials. Even though there was no critical pile, I know that some of the reactions that go on in a breeder reactor went on to a minute extent."

      Although I agree it's not really a reactor, it sounds like he managed to do more than isolate a bunch of radioactive waste.

      Classic Darwin Award material (or at least honorable mention): combines intelligence, ignorance and ingenuity at an early age.

  63. DejaSlash by babbage · · Score: 1, Redundant
    Boy, this story gets better every time Slashdot runs it. (I'd swear it ran a third time as well, even longer ago than the last one, but apparently that instance was removed from the database for redundancy.)

    TOmorrow I'm gonna submit a story about how Linux kernal 2.0 was finally released... :-)

    1. Re:DejaSlash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All my story submissions come from thehistorychannel.com

  64. Re:This? Again? Come on, he even posted a reply to by LWolenczak · · Score: 2

    Yeah, he did din't he.....

  65. It's only too bad that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    fucknuts Brian Ellenberger couldn't have been sitting on the fucking radioactive lead block so we would know that Dr. No-nuts wouldn't be fucking reproducing anytime soon. (Assuming he could ever touch a fucking girl.)

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  66. Re:VERY OLD News is now NEW because it's now on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    It's official - /. has begun it's downhill slide with this "news item"

    Where the hell have you been? Slashdot began its downhill slide years ago, when they picked up John Katz and Taco and his buddies started making money off the site. This "news item" marks the rock-bottom point of the slide. They posted this story a year ago, and it was old news then...

  67. Re:VERY OLD News is now NEW because it's now on /. by NanoGator · · Score: 1

    "Beowulf clusters matching the performance of Cray T3E Supercomputers?"

    Sorry, but I find making a reactor out of old smoke detectors to be far more interesting than Beowulf clusters. Not all of us blow a load over processor cycles.

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  68. Old enough to be a movie... by BladeRider · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure there's even been a movie made about this kid's work (HBO?).

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    1. Re:Old enough to be a movie... by Kirkoff · · Score: 2

      I believe that you're thinking of the movie The Manhattin Project. It's simular, and not to be confused with the real Manhattin Project. The kid in the movie meets a scientist who falls in love with his mom. The scientist allows him in to the lab to see the laser and he realizes that they have plutonium in there. He decides to build an a bomb...

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    2. Re:Old enough to be a movie... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The movie that was made with a similar theme to the aforementioned article was called the Manhattan Project: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0091472

      It came out in 1986.

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  69. How to make a dirty bomb in 12 easy steps. by Kenja · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Great read.

    However I'm surprised that the "Powers That Be" haven't killed this story since it has step by step directions on how to make uranium-233.

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    1. Re:How to make a dirty bomb in 12 easy steps. by PseudoThink · · Score: 1

      Agreed...it was entertaining and informative...a bit *too* informative. The way it was presented was a bit disturbing too. After reading it, the story seemed like an unimportant context (the author spent far more time on the details than on the human story) just used to create this step-by-step "for dummies" guide for obtaining, refining, and using radioactive materials.

    2. Re:How to make a dirty bomb in 12 easy steps. by Kenja · · Score: 2

      I know it makes me want to start playing around again. I did some work in high school invloving radio isotopes and their effects on plant life. I had a nice glass and lead container to test with and made a few funky plants (real high mutation levels).

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    3. Re:How to make a dirty bomb in 12 easy steps. by PissingInTheWind · · Score: 1
      However I'm surprised that the "Powers That Be" haven't killed this story since it has step by step directions on how to make uranium-233.

      It isn't a problem, anyone idiot enough to try it will probably keep himself from breeding, thereby respecting Darwin principles.

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    4. Re:How to make a dirty bomb in 12 easy steps. by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > However I'm surprised that the "Powers That Be" haven't killed this story since it has step by step directions on how to make ...

      When this story came out a few years ago, I worried a bit about this too, but I remember some stuff from the few physics classes I took, and after dusting off my old texts, concluded that it's impossible to use this process to make enough of the substance to constitute a proliferation risk.

      I wouldn't be surprised to find that large purchases of precursor materials are tracked, and even my limited understanding of the physics led me to conclude that there are characteristics of many of the materials at various steps in the process that are detectable at long range.

      From either of these, it seems clear that any group or nation who managed to try and scale this process up would either fry themselves in the process, and if they didn't, would find themselves looking at the business end of an assault rifle, a laser-guided bomb, (or both), long before they had a significant amount of anything that could pose a threat.

      Bottom line - the kid had a way-cool science project (but he should have hooked up with a professor at a university who could have helped him do it safely), but it's not a proliferation risk.

      (If I had to speculate as to why the article was so detailed, it's to make high school teachers and college professors aware that when a high school student shows up with a science project involving a lantern and a smoke detector, it's a mentoring opportunity, not something to be ignored just because it sounds crazy! ;-)

    5. Re:How to make a dirty bomb in 12 easy steps. by symbolic · · Score: 2


      On the other hand, if you read the story, expect a knock on your front door sometime soon...

    6. Re:How to make a dirty bomb in 12 easy steps. by Suidae · · Score: 2

      > However I'm surprised that the "Powers That Be" haven't killed this story since it has step by step directions on how to make ...
      When this story came out a few years ago, I worried a bit about this too, but I remember some stuff from the few physics classes I took, and after dusting off my old texts, concluded that it's impossible to use this process to make enough of the substance to constitute a proliferation risk.


      While its not a risk in the sense of atomic bomb building, it could still be a problem. Imagine the results from taking his little pile of radioactive waste (the stuff his mom and the cops threw out, not the junk left lying around the shed) mixing it with a box of drywall screws and wraping it around a nice jar of the nitroglycerine he made. Drop it near an elementary school and blast nasty mixture of shrapnel and very significant amount of radioactive debris into a quiet suburban neighborhood.

      Its not so much the damage done, but the public relations nightmare it initates. You'd have a bomb going off around the kiddies, which is bad enough, it shatters the 'it can't happen here' attitude most people have, plus its a 'dirty' nuclear bomb which has been discussed in connection with the 9/11 attack, further raising peoples fears, PLUS, you'd have legions of governemnt people running around in 'moon suits' not telling anyone what really happened, desperately trying to contain the radioactive mess, which, while not all that severe, you can't just leave lying around. Make a few other similar bombs with trace amounts of radioactive materials to go off a few days or weeks later and the problem is compounded even more.

    7. Re:How to make a dirty bomb in 12 easy steps. by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > Make a few other similar bombs with trace amounts of radioactive materials to go off a few days or weeks later and the problem is compounded even more.

      Key word here is "trace".

      A "dirty bomb" that would actually constitute a threat (the post-9/11 definition - a device to spread contaminants - not the older definition, which was "a nuke that fizzled") needs more than trace amounts. It also needs to use certain elements which are readily absorbed by (and not easily cleaned out of) humans.

      The kid's project didn't do that, and couldn't do that, for the same scaling reasons as it didn't present a proliferation risk.

      Not to say that a radiological attack isn't a risk, as some of the nasty elements involved in such a device are poorly controlled - just that the kid's project isn't gonna be able to generate enough of them to be a problem either.

      The real problem (as you point out) is public ignorance about both the physics and chemistry involved, combined with media ignorance and sensationalism.

      What do you want to bet that if we get hit with one of these, there'll be emergency rooms full of idjits who've guzzled tincture of iodine (because they didn't have any potassium iodide and they think of KI as some sort of "magic anti-radiation pill") as a "precaution" against a device that may not have contained a single atom of iodine, and for which KI would also offer zero protection?

      The press could educate the public about the range of threats and associated precautions, but they prefer to sensationalize. Whether the press chooses to take this route out of ignorance or a desire for ratings is sadly irrelevant.

  70. Re:This? Again? Come on, he even posted a reply to by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "This same basic story was posted about a year ago."

    I wasn't a Slashdot visitor a year ago. I found the story mildly entertaining.

    Stop acting like posting a story means another story doesn't get posted.

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    "Derp de derp."
  71. Metal in the microwave--Boom! by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

    I wonder if that kid trying to build his own nuclear reactor knew that nuclear fission can occur if you put metal in the microwave. It's a longshot, like one in 500,000, but you might make the whole block go boom!

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    1. Re:Metal in the microwave--Boom! by dossen · · Score: 1

      Would you care to back up that claim?

      I fail to see how you can cause nuclear fission without fissionable material. While microwaving is commonly termed "nuking", microwaves are just radiowaves, in the same band as WiFi devices and such, and while metal might act like an antenna and cause electric discharges, I can't see how you would get fission.

    2. Re:Metal in the microwave--Boom! by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      One can generate small, fairly stable, plasma balls in the microwave. That must be where the parent poster got his confused and ignorant factoid from.

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    3. Re:Metal in the microwave--Boom! by dossen · · Score: 1

      I know, even tried it with a friend (though without succes (we did not have all the pieces, so we improvised) (IIRC it was also rather late, and we were quite possibly drunk, or otherwise less than 100% up for the task...)).

      Neverthe less it is a nice experiment.

    4. Re:Metal in the microwave--Boom! by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

      I read it in a newspaper from the checkout line at wal-mart.

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    5. Re:Metal in the microwave--Boom! by dossen · · Score: 1

      Did it have any specifics? Did it explain how ordinary stable elements decome fissionable through micrwaving them? Why did it not get reported widely? Did you buy that newspaper, or are you just quoting from memory?

    6. Re:Metal in the microwave--Boom! by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

      I didn't buy the paper. My wife finished shopping, and yelled at me to come on, so I put it down. Sorry I don't have more to tell you.

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  72. A teenage boy scout??? by norweigiantroll · · Score: 1

    And they wonder where terrorists get plutonium...

  73. Has John Ashcroft been notified about this guy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My complaint about John Ashcroft

    May I be cynical for a bit? I hope you don't mind,
    but with Ashcroft's latest barrage of
    malodorous notions, I can't resist the urge to make a
    few cynical comments. To get right
    down to it, some of the facts I'm about
    to present may seem shocking. This
    they certainly are. However, it's time that a few
    facts had a chance to slip through the fusillade of hype.
    What's my problem, then? Allow me to present it
    in the form of a question: Where are the people
    who are willing to stand up and acknowledge
    that Ashcroft, in his infinite wisdom, has decided
    to destroy the natural beauty of our parks and forests?
    On the surface, it would seem to have something to do
    with the way that his whole approach is repugnant.
    But upon further investigation, one will find that
    by allowing Ashcroft to put mephitic thoughts in our
    children's minds, we are allowing him to play puppet master.
    As for the lies and exaggerations, Ashcroft's
    epigrams are rife with contradictions
    and difficulties; they're entirely maladroit,
    meet no objective criteria, and are unsuited
    for a supposedly educated population.
    And as if that weren't enough, if Ashcroft is going to
    obstruct important things, then he should at least have
    the self-respect to remind himself of a few things: First, a
    true enemy is better than a false friend. And
    second, many people respond to his debauched vituperations
    in much the same way that they respond to television
    dramas. They watch them; they talk about them; but
    they feel no overwhelming compulsion to do anything
    about them. That's why I insist we pronounce the truth
    and renounce the lies.

    Even people who consider themselves scornful
    foolhardy-types generally agree that Ashcroft's slurs
    symbolize lawlessness, violence, and misguided rebellion
    -- extreme liberty for a few, even if the rest of us
    lose more than a little freedom. One might conclude
    that Ashcroft is incapable of writing a letter without using
    such phrases as "crapulous pop psychologists", "loquacious
    exhibitionists", "oppressive personae non gratae", or
    some combination thereof. Alternatively, one might conclude
    that Ashcroft has a different view of reality from the rest of us.
    In either case, if you're not part of the solution,
    then you're part of the problem. His historical record of
    fickle pleas is clearer than the muddled pronouncements
    of his apple-polishers for a variety of reasons. For
    instance, the worst sorts of inconsiderate Neanderthals there
    are must be treated with political justice, not with
    civil justice, as they are sincerely not real citizens. Let me
    rephrase that: I wonder if he really believes the
    things he says. He knows they're not true, doesn't he?
    A complete answer to that question would
    take more space than I can afford, so I'll have to give
    you a simplified answer. For starters, if
    we let him cause riots in the streets, then greed,
    corruption, and tribalism will characterize the government.
    Oppressive measures will be directed against citizens.
    And lies and deceit will be the stock and trade of the
    media and educational institutions.

    Even Ashcroft's bedfellows couldn't deal with the full impact of
    Ashcroft's refrains. That's why they created "Ashcroft-ism," which is
    just a garrulous excuse to force square
    pegs into round holes. He plans to drag everything
    that is truly great into the gutter. He has instructed
    his votaries not to discuss this or even admit to his
    plan's existence. Obviously, Ashcroft knows he has
    something to hide. Most of you reading this letter
    have your hearts in the right place. Now
    follow your hearts with actions. I have traveled the length and
    breadth of this country and talked with the best people. I can
    therefore assure you that Ashcroft's artifices cannot stand on
    their own merit. That's why they're dependent on elaborate
    artifices and explanatory stories to convince us that Ashcroft's
    warnings can give us deeper insights into the nature of
    reality. We can and we must protect ourselves by any means
    necessary against the unrestrained bestiality
    of stupid, quasi-macabre paper-pushers. And that's the honest truth.

  74. Irony at it's best by Hershmire · · Score: 1

    When reading the comments for this story, I saw this quote at the bottom of the page:

    "What I tell you three times is true. -- Lewis Carroll"

    In light of the redundancy of this news item and its dubious source(s), perhaps this is all a joke?

    Blah

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  75. I don't mind it being posted again... by caluml · · Score: 1

    ...cos I never saw it the first time :)
    Talk about a mad kid.

  76. heh by waspleg · · Score: 1

    "BSA Sponsors Domestic Terrorism"

    woulda been more catchy headline ;P

    so if little davie can build a reactor what's stopping achmed ;)

  77. Good Submission, Bad Moderation by Picass0 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Time to eat some Karma.

    I think it's Bullshit that Timothy or some other Tin Medal Dictator rejected the MS vs. Mozilla story. It's worth noting when the major media covers an open source project. Especially when that mdeia outlet in no other than CNN, a division of the company that owns Mozilla.

    My only question is how long did it take to reject you story?

    I suggest it's time for a rejected stories section on /. Reading stories in that section will require tolerating some troll activity, but at least it's a way of bypassing some narrow sighted power-triping editors.

    Slashdot: Open source, not open-minded.

  78. Yes, this is newsworthy! by tswinzig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I see some people complaining that this story is old, how is it newsworthy. Well let's put it into context with what is going on in the world today. There is a looming threat of dirty bombs being used in the USA. Previously I wasn't too worried, because although I knew the terrorists were good at making bombs, I had assumed it was fairly tough to generate radioactive material that could make them radioactive.

    Then I read a story about a 17-year old kid with not much money and a lot of time generating a heap of radiation.

    Now add hundreds of thousands or even millions in funding, [at least slightly] better equipment, and you might want to wake up.

    But as that lady riding on a New York subway said in a CNN article I read, "If I were really nervous about these terrorists, I'd probably be underground somewhere."

    Ahem.

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    1. Re:Yes, this is newsworthy! by evilviper · · Score: 2

      Dirty Bombs are not something news-worthy. The press has pushed on them as a horrible threat only because they want to scare people into watching. Every single expert says you're chance of EVENTUALLY dying of cacner due to the radialogical bomb is about 1 in 100 IF you are practically at ground zero... And then, if you were that close anyhow, you would probably be at more danger from the inital old-fashioned bomb blast.

      Chock one up to mass-hysteria. Not that the FBI/CIA hasn't helped push the threat.

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  79. given crap by kalieaire · · Score: 1

    I remember this story a while ago in high school. Specifically because my friends gave me crap about how I was gonna make a nuclear reactor at home for a science project. I Decided against it :), enriching u238 for a science project could get messy, that and the fact that I couldn't get all the materials together on a $20/week allowance.

  80. Re:This? Again? Come on, he even posted a reply to by ChadN · · Score: 1

    But this time it was posted just after a story about growing new Thymus organs. Probably not a coincidence...

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  81. Fake. by Levine · · Score: 0, Informative

    This isn't a troll, or flamebait, or anything. It's fact.

    The last time this was posted, there were a flurry of links and mentionings of it being fake. Mostly they dealt with the fact that there was no way the amount of materials he supposedly smuggled from antiques would be sufficient to do what he was doing.

    It was quickly identified as a fake story, although if news sources keep posting it as fact who knows, people might actually believe it.

    Regards,
    levine

    1. Re:Fake. by RollingThunder · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sigh... others have shown ample evidence that this is legit. We need a "-1 wrong" moderation. I thought about giving you an Overrated, or a Flamebait, or a Troll, but none are right.

    2. Re:Fake. by crucini · · Score: 2

      Don't you think it's possible that David is withholding some pieces of the puzzle? It seems like he is only admitting to things that are legal or were already known (stealing smoke detectors). Given his huge appetite for nuclear materials, he may have gone a lot further. In any event, antiques were not the only source of nuclear material cited. Of course it could be fake. But I think we should assume that we are hearing a carefully spun version of the story that is influenced by the chance of criminal prosecution.

    3. Re:Fake. by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      I Have to agree, but for different reasons -
      Building a breeding reactor in his back garden, fine.
      Obtaining materials through social engineering, sure.

      But he had a girlfriend?? yeah, sure.

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    4. Re:Fake. by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      It is fake, when you say he had some sort of "breeder reactor". He got a pile of low-level radioactive stuff together, and mushed it up and pretended he was doing something scientific.

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    5. Re:Fake. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah except he was a minor when he did it. So why would he really care?

    6. Re:Fake. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you are wrong, it is mostly fake. Probably Mr. Hahn decided to have a good laugh at the author of the article. It is a fun hoax. Many other people have pointed out essential details that are incorrect. (esp. the Geiger counter in the car registering a significant amount of gamma radiation from within a nearby building) Let me add to that a criticism of the use of barium sulfate to dissolve and isolate radium. The idea of preparing radium sulfate is an excellent one. However the procedure described would be very difficult to carry out, and would not work anyway. The melting point of barium sulfate is 1580 C. It is difficult to heat something to this temperature with a bunsen burner or a blow torch, but it can be done. But then... pouring this hot liquid into a coffee filter??? There is no freaking way you can do that without destroying the coffee filter.

    7. Re:Fake. by Omnifarious · · Score: 1

      Well, sodium chloride has a similarily high melting point, yet I can pour liquids containing high concentrations of sodium chloride through coffee filters. Perhaps he used a solvent?

    8. Re:Fake. by Omnifarious · · Score: 1

      A breeder reactor is defined by function, not by the elegence or scientificness of its construction. He was using the neutrons emitted by some of the decay products of one nuclear reaction to turn other isotopes into more radioactive ones, which many would define as a breeder reactor. He even largely knew what he was doing, even if he severely underestimated the danger.

    9. Re:Fake. by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      He didn't generate any electricity, it wasn't a "reactor", any more than my stomach is a "chemical processing factory". I just disagree with the hype surrounding this whole episode.

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  82. Well... by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1

    Maybe the "Powers that Be" aren't quite the dreadful authoritarian monsters that most slashdot posters like to think they are. Nah, that couldn't be true. They're just a bunch of clones of Hitler, right?

    1. Re:Well... by Kenja · · Score: 2
      Shush, they can hear what you type you know.

      Unless of course you have an AFDB.

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  83. Article Inaccuracy by chicagothad · · Score: 1

    The part about the Enrico Fermi I power plant at Detroit Edision is inaccurate. The plant is still alive and functioning today. The costs part are correct however.....

    1. Re:Article Inaccuracy by Anonymous+Cow+herd · · Score: 1

      The part about the Enrico Fermi I power plant at Detroit Edision is inaccurate. The plant is still alive and functioning today.

      From what I read, they never said that the Fermi reactor shut down... just that it was too damned expensive to be practical... the other two, however...

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  84. This artical again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was already on slashdot a while back, but posted with a different link. It was definitely many months agao, but it's yet another great slashdot repeat posting.

  85. Get over it... by sterno · · Score: 2

    The mozilla story is ancient and well covered here on slashdot. I agree that the article these comments are attached to is also quite old, but this CNN article is really nothing terribly insightful. It's saying the same thing we've heard a thousand times. IE runs the world. Mozilla took a long time. AOL might be able to push mozilla by putting it in their client. I mean, was there one element of new information in there.

    at least this re-hashed article is an interesting read. I've read it twice before and I still enjoyed skimming over it again because it's fascinating to see how a kid could build such a thing. It's even more fascinating given the recent context of Al Qaeda, dirty bombs, etc. Had this kid been malevolent enough to take his radioactive toys and wrap it around a pipe bomb, we would have had a nasty mess. Good to refresh our memories on how frighteningly easy it is to do this sort of thing.

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    1. Re:Get over it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dunno... I learned that Mozilla 1.0 is the "last stab" at defeating I.E., that "there is no help desk for Mozilla users", and therefore, by inference, that there IS a helpdesk for IE users (?) and that Mitchell Baker is a very pretty man.

  86. uhm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we did already have this story on /. right?

    suckers.

  87. Splitting the atom? by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 4, Funny

    "the house was rocked by an explosion in the basement. There they found David lying semiconscious on the floor, his eyebrows smoking. Unaware that red phosphorus is pyrophoric, David had been pounding it with a screwdriver and ignited it. "

    Hmmm i think ill split this atom i found. *gets screwdriver, hammer...*

    wap
    wap
    wap

    *KABOOM*

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  88. New slash to motto by sup4hleet · · Score: 1

    Slashdot
    Leaders in trailing edge technology.

    Really, 1998!

  89. "Darwin" merit badge. by Nf1nk · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah they have had it for while... usualy it is awarded for things like wiping your ass with poison oak or pissing on the electric fence. But as I said this kid was only working on getting it

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  90. Re:VERY OLD News is now NEW because it's now on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Come off it... Everything's on it's downhill slide. Name one thing that wasn't better before.

  91. Re:This? Again? Come on, he even posted a reply to by elsilver · · Score: 1
    Hell, the dude who did it even made a post.

    I've seen the links back to the story from last year, but didn't see any posts for David. Can you provide more information?

  92. Ah, the frustration of searching /. by Raetsel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Good grief!

    I can't believe how difficult it can be to find an older article around this place!

    Slashdot's robots.txt file is comprehensively restrictive, so if I feed Google "David Hahn site:slashdot.org", I get nothing.
    • Dear Cmdr Taco;

      Would you please release (every few months or perhaps annually) a complete archive of Slashdot on CD or DVD? I imagine a simple .tar of the database would be sufficient, as most of your users would be quite capable of handling (and searching) that format. Personally, I think raw articles (no slashboxes, sidebars, etc...) in HTML format would be very useful.

      Since CD/DVD production is relatively inexpensive, this could potentially be a non-trivial source of revenue for /.

      Alternatively, perhaps Google could be convinced to donate one of their search appliances? Since many of us are quite proficient and familiar with Google's operation, it would make searching our collective memory that much easier.

      Further, if a donation from Google is not possible, there are likely many of us who would be willing to donate to a search appliance fund.

      Please, PLEASE consider these (and any other!) options to improve Slashdot searching.

      Sincerely,
      Raetsel.

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    1. Re:Ah, the frustration of searching /. by tenman · · Score: 4, Troll
      I just got a call from Rob. basicly he said,
      • "you organize the fund for a cache server"
      • "you pay for the diskspace to index our DB"
      • "you burn the CD's"
      • "You pay us (VA) for the rights to publish iyr stories"
      • "You pay the relatively inexpensive costs of quarterly updates.
      but the thing that really got him twisted...
      • you to pay the copywrite fees, to all the users who would claim ownership of thier works if CD/DVDs like that where to hit a market.
      I think his point was "We've looked at it, and we are not set up to handle such a thing. If we claimed ownership of all posting,
      1) we would be liable for what they say, and
      2) we would owe the original owners for the copy.
      "

      I hope this clears everything up

      hell no, it's not true... I would never give that punk malda my number :)
    2. Re:Ah, the frustration of searching /. by mr100percent · · Score: 2
      I don't think we'll ever see /. in any other format, for the same reasons as everything2.com. If you look at the bottom of the page, the second to last sentence on the bottom bar says "Comments are owned by the Poster." That means if /. publishes your works, they're plaigarizing you, and breaking their agreement with you, the poster.

      Dang, I wouldn't mind seeing /. on a CD, though I don't think it would do me much good.

    3. Re:Ah, the frustration of searching /. by Jack+William+Bell · · Score: 2
      "You pay us (VA) for the rights to publish [our] stories"

      How about VA paying me for a rather popular feature article that Rob published without even asking me first? Mind you I am not even a little angry about this (I did email it to him because I was curious if he thought it was /. material), but I would have liked a chance to fix a few typos first.

      My point is that I own the article, not VA. The only thing /. (or VA) ever did was provide a forum, they never purchased rights of any kind to my writing. Perhaps they pay John Katz, I dunno, but they aren't paying anyone other than the editors that I know of. So Rob does have a point, but his point includes more than just karma whoring posts. It also includes all the blurbs and articles submitted by people like me which provide /. with free content. Damn good content sometimes...

      Jack William Bell
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    4. Re:Ah, the frustration of searching /. by TGK · · Score: 2

      So we add a check box which says "I give slashdot the right to publish any future posts I make in an unaltered form in an not-for-profit distribution mode" or somesuch.

      Then add another which says "I give slashdot the right to publish any posts I have made in the afforementioned manner"

      IANAL so the language would have to be changed obviously. But I think those two would deal with teh problem. That... and add a "No Publishing Rights" check box to the submission form.

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  93. Re: FreeBSD and OpenBSD (off-topic) by Mad+Marlin · · Score: 1
    Can someone please explain the difference between OpenBSD and FreeBSD?

    FreeBSD split in 1993 from 386BSD and 4.3BSD. OpenBSD split in 1995 from NetBSD. NetBSD split in 1993 from 386BSD and 4.3BSD. So, unless you routinely play around with the kernel source itself, the answer is not much at all. The most noticable thing is that FreeBSD uses bold text when it boots, where OpenBSD uses reversed text. If you want a BSD system to just play around with, FreeBSD would probably be a better choice, but OpenBSD (and espicially NetBSD) support more architectures. For example, I don't think UltraSparc's are supported in FreeBSD yet, but they are in OpenBSD.

  94. Previously Posted on Slashdot by Psx29 · · Score: 1

    Right here

  95. Re:This? Again? Come on, he even posted a reply to by MrRudeDude · · Score: 1

    I don't think that David Hahn himself posted in the previous story; some acquaintances/friends from the period did, however, and at least one posted again in this story.

  96. This goes with the last story by T.E.D. · · Score: 2

    ...since he's going to need that new thymus before long.

  97. Reminds me of when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I saw a pair of guys with shaved heads and black trenchcoats buying some guns at a local Wal*Mart.

  98. Wending through all forms of journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    It seems remarkable that David's story hasn't already wended its way through all forms of journalism and become the stuff of legend,

    Nope. Apparently not.

  99. Don't believe the Dirty Bomb hype by guanxi · · Score: 2

    I'm no nuclear weapons engineer, but everything I've read says dirty bombs,

    - Do less damage, to people and things, than a plain old-fashioned bomb filled with nails.

    - Can be cleaned up (for contaminated humans, at least) by stripping and washing yourself with a garden hose.

    - Cost so much more than a standard terrorist bomb to make, and being less effective (if you discount the hype and resulting fear), that we should hope the terrorists waste their resources on it instead of something more dangerous.

    1. Re:Don't believe the Dirty Bomb hype by Bloody+Bastard · · Score: 1

      The problem in the Dirty Bomb hype is the panic it may cause. I don't think a nail bomb won't affect those who aren't very near it, neither it'll contaminate water, ground or whatever.

      Even if the Dirty Bomb also doesn't contaminate the envyronment, people won't be sure about that (because they cannot see it), and then... chaos.

  100. Darwin Awards by crucini · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This kid is a walking advertisement for the Darwin Awards ...

    That meme irritates me a bit - it seems to imply that evolution never favors risk-taking. Actually, evolution favors a good balance between risk-taking and fear. If you are paralyzed by fear you won't win any "Darwin Awards" on the internet, but you won't get any rewards from life either.

    I think most people who talk about "Darwin Awards" are overlooking the fact that death by excessive risk-taking is not the only kind of death - starvation awaits those who do not take enough risks.
    1. Re:Darwin Awards by smoondog · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure the Darwin awards have much to do with risk taking, nor did my original comment. I think here there is an implied level of stupidity critical for a death to be pushed into the Darwin catagory. Any kid who is going to hit pure red phosphorous with a screw driver is taking a risk, but not a smart one. The same goes for that kid who is willing to put others in danger by disabling large numbers of smoke detectors in public places.

      -Sean

    2. Re:Darwin Awards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He'll have to *become* a fast breeder if he wants
      to disqualify himself for the Darwin Award.

    3. Re:Darwin Awards by zenyu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Any kid who is going to hit pure red phosphorous with a screw driver is taking a risk, but not a smart one.

      Yes, he should have looked it up first. But did you never burn off your eyebrows with a chemistry set? It was only after I lost my eyebrows twice, a big chunk of hair once, and most of the hair on my legs once that I started taking extra precautions. You could say, "slow learner" but I'd just say it didn't really bother me until I was asked about it by my friends that I thought, oh, burning body bad. (I already had a scar on my chest from an accident at 2 and had enough scars from playing that a painless loss of hair was no biggie.)

      The same goes for that kid who is willing to put others in danger by disabling large numbers of smoke detectors in public places.

      Oh come on, you never took apart one fire detector to test your Geiger counter? He just got caught up in it because he had a tough family life and uninteresting school. You prolly got just as caught up in computers, it was just inherently safer.

    4. Re:Darwin Awards by smoondog · · Score: 2

      Heh, Heh. Yes, I did my fair share of dumb things when I was 11 not when I was in high school, though. I did a bunch of other stuff in grad school to. I assisted a physical chemistry lab once a week and I spent the entire time during lecture sticking odd things into liquid nitrogen...

      -Sean

  101. Best Internet Geek Legend? by istartedi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OK, reactor boy is great. Is it better than the JATO car story? I'd call this a genre, but I can only think of these two stories. Then of course there are "geek legends" that are actually true, like the guy who built the roller-coaster in Indiana. Can anybody think of more geek legends, if we can think of enough then there could be a poll.

    Note, mere "hacking" doesn't qualify. In order to be a geek legend, you have to be a single person, or perhaps a very small group, you have to be outside the corporate setting, you have to work with a technology that is dangerous and thought to be beyond the scope of what such a group can deal with. For example, concoct a story about a guy who built a submarine in his garage, took it out to sea, and penetrated a carrier battle group. Nobody can verify it because the Navy immediatly classified his plans, moved the model to storage, and ordered him to clam up (under threat of treason charges) for national security reasons because the plans might allow enemies to penetrate carrier groups. If you want to author such a story, feel free to take this idea and flesh it out. Post it to /.. I think we would all enjoy it.

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    1. Re:Best Internet Geek Legend? by grappler · · Score: 2

      heh.

      My favorite part about the first time this breeder reactor story was put on Slashdot was the guy who said something like, "I was in the kid's class - I rememer him coming to school sometimes with burns on his hands and pieces of uranium in his pockets. There were a lot of rumors about him and he was kindof a loner. If you have any questions just reply to this post and I'll answer them."

      He got a lot of replies ;-)

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    2. Re:Best Internet Geek Legend? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      www.mycal.net/rail2.pdf

    3. Re:Best Internet Geek Legend? by RedWizzard · · Score: 2

      It's not in quite the same class but John Carmack's space exploration plans are pretty good (and a hell of a lot more realistic). Keep up to date here.

    4. Re:Best Internet Geek Legend? by sholden · · Score: 1


      http://www.wagoneers.com/pages/RocketCar/rockit. ht ml
      is vaguely entertaining regarding the JATO on a car legend. Whether it's an explanation or the product a few hours of boredom is up to you...

    5. Re:Best Internet Geek Legend? by srvivn21 · · Score: 2

      Guess it's not really a legend...Yet.

    6. Re:Best Internet Geek Legend? by towad · · Score: 1

      "For example, concoct a story about a guy who built a submarine in his garage, took it out to sea, and penetrated a carrier battle group."

      The "Fenian Ram" did the first two around 1900. It was built by an lone inventor (John Holland) and financed by the Fenian Brotherhood (Irish nationalists, who by no means had bundles of money). IIRC, it could stay submerged for three days and was able to shoot torpedos a good distance.

      Mostly, they just ferried it around and pissed off the English.

  102. offspring requires a female by pjgeer · · Score: 1

    Could such an ubergeek acquire one with 5 less years to work with? I suppose he was counting on some of the potting shed spiders to become radioactive and then bite him so he could get buff like Spiderman. Or with enough radiation he himself might mutate enough to reproduce by budding, ala yeast.

  103. Terrorists by Christianfreak · · Score: 2

    And the US Government says that terrorist's don't have the resources to build an atomic device but a 17 year old kid can? Well at least we don't have mass hysteria.

    1. Re:Terrorists by ckd · · Score: 2
      And the US Government says that terrorist's don't have the resources to build an atomic device but a 17 year old kid can?

      They also require you to show ID before getting on an airplane "for security purposes" (yeah, security of you not reselling your deep discount non-refundable tickets). So, a terrorist won't be able to get a fake ID but a 17 year old kid can?

  104. breeder reactor? by Laplace · · Score: 2

    I originally thought that a "breeder reactor" was a Mormon singles ward event.

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  105. Every time I read this story... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    A very disturbing image is generated in my mind, which is probably close to the truth:

    We have here a story of a youth, estranged from both of his parents by divorce. He shuttles between the two families, each house on the opposite side of Detroit. Neither family seems to care much about his activities or schooling (and failures therein). Neither seems to understand or care about his activities. What they do understand, is that it "had to do with energy"...

    He seems to have next to nothing for a social life. Scouts, probably a few friends in school. His girlfriend seems only "someone to be with", to fight the loneliness (hence the ton of letters to her) rather than a real "love affair" (not that I am expecting a romance here or anything, the relationship just seems to be a way to stave off the darkness that surrounds him).

    With this kind of a life, most teenagers would, at this point, turn to "standard" forms of destructive behavior - drugs, gangs, violence. But not this guy. He attempts to hold on, going so far as to "appear" for most people outwardly normal, even earning his Eagle Scout badge. He has his darkness, though, and continues to spiral down . This culminates in his building up a highly radioactive "waste pit" in the backyard of one of his parent's house.

    Neither family understands why (though it should be plain to see), and the mother tosses the lot of it (and she wasn't even wearing the apron) into the garbage, to eventually get down to the water table, or elsewhere. Still, I have this image of this kid, hallowed eye (to a point), making and stiring up "concoctions" for the point of building a breeder reactor in his backyard, knowing the dangers, taking some precautions (but not enough), and then only dismantling it partially (and storing it in the trunk of his car?!) and hiding the evidence. It makes you wonder what he was really doing to have that cop called on him - waiting for a friend doesn't look like "stealing tires" - so why were they called?

    It is a dismal image - I can imagine him failing, and perhaps getting severely angry (perhaps from failing, perhaps from other reasons, with failure "igniting" the anger) - in a small "nervous breakdown" rage smashing things in his "lab" - damn the radiation! Damn the consequences!

    But in the end - it seems like it is all about an individual whose family broke apart prematurely in his life, and he is trying to find the pieces.

    You know what scares me?

    He more than likely is still that scared, struggling youth, only in a mans body. He is an adult now, and he may have some semblance of a real life. But is that still just another cover, his adult Eagle Scout merit badge?

    Look at what he is studying now. Look at the type of things he is studying. That's right, it isn't about homebrew nuclear reactors anymore.

    It is about biotech now...

  106. Believe the Dirty Bomb hype by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm no nuclear weapons engineer, but everything I've read says dirty bombs,

    - Do less damage, to people and things, than a plain old-fashioned bomb filled with nails.

    - Can be cleaned up (for contaminated humans, at least) by stripping and washing yourself with a garden hose.

    - Cost so much more than a standard terrorist bomb to make, and being less effective (if you discount the hype and resulting fear), that we should hope the terrorists waste their resources on it instead of something more dangerous.


    If you manage to steal any of the spent fuel that's lying around, or even a medium-sized shipment of medical isotopes, you have enough to contaminate a good chunk of the core of a major city. While harder to acquire than a few bags of fertilizer, it's by no means prohibitively hard.

    The actual health effects of the contamination would be next to nil. But the goal of terrorism is exactly that - terror. North America is full of people who run around screaming about nuclear reactors which release less radiation than the concrete in their basements. People would go *nuts* if a dirty bomb raised background radiation by *any* detectable amount.

    Not even a nerve gas attack would cause that much mayhem. It would be the perfect attack.

    Nevermind the fact that lawsuits over alleged health problems from the infinitesimally higher exposure would drag on for decades.

    1. Re:Believe the Dirty Bomb hype by Jboy_24 · · Score: 1

      If you manage to steal any of the spent fuel that's lying around, or even a medium-sized shipment of medical isotopes, you have enough to contaminate a good chunk of the core of a major city. While harder to acquire than a few bags of fertilizer, it's by no means prohibitively hard.

      1st) I have read that the radioactivity of spent fuel rods is so great, that the lethal dose of gamma rays would occur in a matter of hours to anyone withing a good (10yards) area. I hope those bomb makers are fast...

      2nd) Ohhh.... so contaminating an area with low-grade nuclear material with half lives around 30 days is going to kill us all... hmm... the stuff usually is in hospitals which shows how uncontrolable deadly the stuff is.

      3rd) Saying a large bomb blowing some nuclear material for blocks would cause more fear and expense then a biological or nerve gas attack is obviously using very simple logic. Ask yourself, how long does it take to clean a building contaminated with ANY agent? It takes at LEAST as long as the time required to sample and test the location to make sure it is clean of the contaminant. With a biological attack, you need to sample then culture, with nuclear all you need a gieger counter. As well, with some biological attacks (smallpox), it is very hard to determine who is carries the agent, as well the agent replicates itself and spreads by itself!

      Take these two scenarios and tell me which is going to bring the most worry.

      1)A bomb blowing up in the new york subway with spreading fairly non toxic medical grade nuclear material.

      2)A rag coated in blood is found on a seat in the subway that is tested and found to contain ebola.

      Its actually very scary to think what would happen if someone does a suicide attack by getting themselves infected then traveling... How would you dectect or stop them??? Finding someone smuggling something radio active would be alot easier.

      Remeber, Fear = not knowing

    2. Re:Believe the Dirty Bomb hype by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 2

      1st) I have read that the radioactivity of spent fuel rods is so great, that the lethal dose of gamma rays would occur in a matter of hours to anyone withing a good (10yards) area. I hope those bomb makers are fast...

      Drop it in a lead suitcase, or a swimming pool, or down a hole in your yard. All you need is a lot of matter between you and the radioactives.

      Or just spend 20 minutes duct-taping the bomb, radioactives, and tamping materials together, and then stay a good ways away from the radioactives. Terrorists generally don't care what happens to themselves as long as the goal gets accomplished.

      2nd) Ohhh.... so contaminating an area with low-grade nuclear material with half lives around 30 days is going to kill us all...

      This elegantly displays your degree of reading comprehension.

      [Hint: "The actual health effects of the contamination would be next to nil."]

      3rd) Saying a large bomb blowing some nuclear material for blocks would cause more fear and expense then a biological or nerve gas attack is obviously using very simple logic.

      Have you ever raised the topic of nuclear contamination in a random group of people and listened to them talk it over for the next 10 minutes?

      People know nothing about radioactivity. They just know that Radiation Is Bad. Bad, Bad, Bad. Any application of actual facts or common sense fails to have any impact.

      Try this some time.

      In summary, I believe that the dirty-bomb scare tactic would work quite well.

    3. Re:Believe the Dirty Bomb hype by Jboy_24 · · Score: 1

      I don't know, have you ever brought it up with a bunch of people? I think you've got too many 70's disaster movies in your head. When the WTC were attacked, did people immediatly panic and run in large groups to the nearest shopping mall and loot it? Were there ANY deaths as the result of the attacks?

      I say ask the random person THIS question, if terrorists attacked the smithsonian with a dirty bomb, and the government cleaned it up, would you let them win by not going back ever?

      Any fool with a geiger counter can verify wether the cleanup was successful. We're all very trusting that we aren't getting any anthrax spores in our mail, even though we have NO way of verifying this.

    4. Re:Believe the Dirty Bomb hype by Jboy_24 · · Score: 1

      DOH!!!

      s/were there ANY deaths as the result of the attacks/were there ANY deaths as the result of the panic from the attacks/

      argh... bad one

    5. Re:Believe the Dirty Bomb hype by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 1

      I don't know, have you ever brought it up with a bunch of people?

      Yes.

      Like I said, try it yourself before flaming me.

    6. Re:Believe the Dirty Bomb hype by Jboy_24 · · Score: 1

      I belive my point, was that there is a difference between the fear of contemplating the horrid and it happening. The thing about nuclear that is supposed to scare people about nuclear is that it is invisible. However, it is easily detectable.

      I think we all overestimate the amount of fear this could cause by asking people scaring questions. The questions that need to be asked are would you go back to an area once a 'dirty bomb' went off if there was no/very little radiation detectable. I point to the fact that people now work at places infected by anthrax contamination, which is ALOT harder to gaurantee cleanlyness or to clean then some place dirtied by radiation.

      Yes the 'public' have fears about radation, but its easier to 'fear' something when it doesn't affect you, then if you have to move your house and belongings when people say its save.

      Case in point, the area around the 'shed' that the article mentions, did the whole neighbourhood close up and disappear, even though its WAY more contaminated then the area after a dirty bomb?

  107. This is just a scary story! by bsharma · · Score: 3, Informative

    Relax! With his methods, he would never have been able to create any fission chain reaction. Sure, his technic can be used to build a "dirty bomb" - but a nuke never. The hardest trick in making a nuke is extreme difficulty increasing the purity of Radioactive isotopes. And he would be dead long before the purity reached dangerous level (let alone it is very hard - one needs acre sized plants for diffusion or centrifuge and hundreds of megawatts of power and millions of gallons of water)

  108. Bloom County by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some may even recall when this was a story line in Bloom County.

    Oliver made a working reactor by scraping the luminescent material off 10,000 watch hands.

    btw, i'm typing this on my Banana Junior

  109. Re:This? Again? Come on, he even posted a reply to by God!+Awful · · Score: 2

    Of course, the same basic story was also made into a movie called The Manhattan Project in 1986. One can only speculate where this kid got the idea.

    -a

  110. Not fake. by Pathwalker · · Score: 5, Informative
    I went to high school with Dave when this was going on. (I graduated from Chippewa Valley High School in 1994). I can tell you that the following facts are true.
    • He was in Boy Scouts (I was in troop 371 with him)
    • He was always into strange experiments, from making thermite, to building large batteries to give people shocks.
    • At one point in high school, he became very interested in radioactive decay, and the reactions that can transform one isotope into another.
    • Shortly after that, he started showing off many giger counters, bits of metal with radiation symbols etched into them, and other items when we met for lunch.
    • He knew chemestry pretty well, although he was not always that careful. (he used to reclaim silver from discared film for extra money)
    • As we both messed around with electronics, I gave him a catalog from a slavage yard with crates of dozen of different items that had been left out in the rain. They were selling dead smoke detectors for really really cheap.
    • He brought in a opened Americum container from a smoke detector to lunch one day. At this point, I stopped sitting near him in class, and at lunch, and started calling him "Glow Boy".
    • About a month into my Freshman year at college, I got a phone call from him. He said that he had just been raided by the EPA and the NRC, and that he needed to know what the name of that salvage yard had been.

    Now, the rumor I heard for how he was caught was the following:

    He had to move his experiments somewhere besides that shed, so he filled the trunk of his car with the material. On his way to school, he had to drive over a railroad crossing. Apparently there was some sort of radiation sensor by the track, and it started tripping twice a day, always at the same time.

    The other rumor I had heard, was that he had given up, and had given most of the radioactive material to a friend who wanted to keep experimenting shortly before he was raided.
  111. New article censoring preferences option? by GameMaster · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I know I'll probably get moded "off topic" but the truth is it really is on topic.

    What we need is a new option in Slashdot user preferences that doesn't show articles that have already been posted to the front page. That way people with a memory don't have to wade through the re-posts that happen frequently enough to be annoying. The most annoying part of it is that most of the time you have to spend a decent amount of time just trying to figure out if its an update on a previously posted topic or just another re-post of the exact same article.

    Of course the much simpler way to handle it would be to force Slashdot editors to, at the very least, search the archives for any articles that contain the exact same URL linked to in the potential article. I doubt it would be very hard to code it in as a hard wired feature of slash that just automatically searches the body of all back news pieces. Then it could simply list off any articles that posses the same link making it really easy for an editor to see repeat posts before they make it to the front page. Heck even a manual search of the archives before posting every new article would be enough to catch most re-posts and it wouldn't take much time.

    The only problem with the auto search idea is that there are plenty of times where commercial web sites like intel.com get linked to. In this case there could simply be a list of well know URLs (predominantly the base URL for corporations and other large organizations). Any links in a potential article that are included in the list could be excluded from the search.

    This, of course, says nothing for the, oh so hard, cut-and-paste of all articles into MS Word (or any similar editor with a spell checker) that should also be mandatory for any web site that calls itself a news source. I find myself straying from the main point of the post now though.

    This has been an opinion post sprinkled with a little bit of annoyance that this issue keeps getting ignored by the Slashdot editorial staff no matter how many times it gets mentioned in threads. It was not intended as a troll or as flame-bait.

    -GameMaster

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    1. Re:New article censoring preferences option? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      That would possibly be a good idea, if Slashdot have a search capability. I'm not sure what that little box labelled "search" at the bottom of the page is supposed to do, but it sure doesn't search. Try it sometime, I'm sure you'll agree it's the worst "search" you have ever tried.

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    2. Re:New article censoring preferences option? by GameMaster · · Score: 1

      In the box titled "Older Stuff" on the right side of the main page there is a link called "older stuff". In there you can find a search option for searching through old news posts. Even if there weren't a search option built into Slashdot for the users to access, it isn't hard to design one using the features already built into mySQL (its an inherent part of any SQL database).

      As for the parent post, I love how any dissenting opinion, no matter how decently written, gets moded into oblivion as flamebait by anyone that disagrees.

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  112. Caution: Contents Radioactive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With all the media hype over "Dirty Bombs" I think this article pretty much best outlined how easy it would be to build one... Right down to the nitric acid.

    Spooky.

  113. Actual working nuclear bomb by mestreBimba · · Score: 1

    Teacher: For show and tell today Oliver Wendell Jones is going to show us a model of an atomic bomb.

    Oliver: Oh it's not a modle it's real.

    Teacher: Where did you get the radioactive material?

    Oliver: I scraped the glow in the dark material off of 10,000 watch hands.

    Teacher: You mean...?

    Oliver: Yep... KABOOM!!!

    Teacher: OK everyone... fire drill!

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  114. I Smell Fake.... by artsygeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Kid's name is Hahn! The same name as Otto Hahn, one of the forerunners of nuclear science. Here's a bio of Hahn.

    1. Re:I Smell Fake.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You had to rip it from the former /. article right?
      Sheesh!!!

      :-/

  115. Re:VERY OLD News is now NEW because it's now on /. by SirNonya · · Score: 0

    Big Brother has never been better...

  116. How about us voting on a BEST OF SLASHDOT by spineboy · · Score: 1

    I guess I should submit this as a story/topic and see if people like...Its kinda recursive in a weird sorta way...

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  117. raw html.... by pyrote · · Score: 2, Informative

    it may not be a tar archive, but if your intrested in raw html, this is as close as it gets: http://slashdot.org/palm/
    works well with Avantgo too

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  118. Havent I seen this before? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Im sure its around here somewhere...

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  119. If it happend today... by hengist · · Score: 1
    • John Ashcroft would make a live broadcast claiming the BSA are financed by al Qaeda
    • Hahn would be arrested and identified by Ashcroft as "Yusef al Hahn"
    • Greenpeace would picket the headquarters of the BSA
    • No less than 27 lawyers would file suit against Hahn, the BSA and the EPA for the health effects of his experiments - in California
    • Dubya would call for more restrictions on the dissemination of nuclear physics information
    • At least 63% of Slashdotters would write to Hahn asking for his autograph

  120. Re:honorary award for me too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Considering I never get laid, therfore I'll never breed...can I have an Honorary Darwin Award?

    I'm a total Clavin, and I say stupid things to girls I like. So technically, I am preventing myself from breeding. I guess it's better than up-chucking on 'em like Stan.

    OHHHH! Whatta ya gonna do about it, Stan DARSH!

    I'll go home tonight, finish drawing my anime pr0n of Android 18, spank da monkey/drink beer/pass out.

    Now that I think about it...I'm more of a Yamcha (pre-wish) than a Clavin. I'm just scared/scarred of chicks.

  121. Interesting name by mindriot · · Score: 2

    What's interesting is that guy's name... any relation to Otto Hahn? :)

  122. So he mangaed to move the radiation around by Nf1nk · · Score: 1

    So he mangaed to move the radiation around
    he built what boils down to a radiation/particle gun, the fact that he pointed it at what was debateably uranium is more or less irrelevent had he pointed his geiger counter at a wad of aluminium foil that he was bombarding with assorted radiation he would have seen a similar rise in radiation. At any rate I agree that he did manage to isolate some radioactive elements, but anything else he may have accomplished boils down to making a radioactive mess in the shed.

    And if this doesn't show that he is darwin award material I don't know what does. A little knowledge mixed with a bunch of ignorance and ingenuity at an early age.

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    1. Re:So he mangaed to move the radiation around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he did a bit more. The article seems to indicate that his 'reactor' was slowly transmuting some of the elements into less stable/more radioactive things. He didn't have a reactor he was just making his waste more dangerous.

  123. Radiation Boy: A terrorist's hero by dscowboy · · Score: 1

    I can't believe all the "This is old news! I'm a 1334 /. oldschooler!" posts for this topic. Were you people around 9 months ago when an international organization funded a multi-million dollar massacre? How many thousands of militant US-haters dream about carrying a block of uranium to the roof of a building in Manhattan and blowing themselves up? If a kid could irradiate his backyard with a few hundred dollars in supplies, how easy would it be to get such materials in countries that are 50 years behind the US in hazardous materials regulations?

    Everyone got their lead suits on?

    1. Re:Radiation Boy: A terrorist's hero by elveu · · Score: 1

      thats what the UN is for but if countries don't agree then that's when to start worrying

  124. some clues by Erris · · Score: 3, Interesting
    e surrounded this radioactive ball with a "blanket" composed of tiny foil-wrapped cubes of thorium ash and uranium powder, which were stacked in an alternating pattern with carbon cubes and tenuously held together with duct tape.

    Woops! He screwed up like the Germans did and did not realize that Carbon contains Boron, a powerful neutron absorber. Or did he?

    Miller, a nuclear-savvy high-school friend in whom David had confided, warned him that real reactors use control rods to regulate nuclear reactions. Miller recommended cobalt, which absorbs neutrons but does not itself become fissionable.

    Ieeee! Cobalt may suck down neutrons, but it does so by making Cobalt-60, a powerful gamma emitter with a five year half life. Not good, kids better to use borax.

    The article over all is sinister and alarmist. While the author bettered himself by reading snippits of the Golder Book of Chemistry, the overall tone is that knowledge and should be controled like materials that can POTENTIALY be abused. The parents were at fault for alowing this to go on and not seeking help at the university, but the contamination produced was not great. Our here might not have realized that he had stepped into illegal or unhealthy concentrations. Overall, as the "garbage go the good stuff", there was very little stuff to he had. Most municpal dumps have radiation detectors for the protection of the public and workers. It's kind of a last step in the control of medical isotopes and what not; if the isotope is not controled by the state/federal regulator; if the isotope is lost by the hospital; if the isotope goes to Mexico and comes back; if the isotope is sold or disposed of and can't be found, the isotpe will make it's way to a dump and be found there. That the local dump did not alarm is reassuring. He could have really hurt himself by ingesting some of his work, and his set up was childish and silly, but it's doubtful he ever possed a real threat to his neighbors.

    The sad part is that his tallents were not channeled properly, that he never was convinced of the need to study other foundation material like math, that today he is a simple sailor. It's good for the Navy to have such a bright fellow, but bad for the rest of us. At age 21, it's not too late for this man to be educated and made useful. He has more curiosity and energy than most people. Go back to school, David.

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  125. Story by epsilon720 · · Score: 1

    This story is SOOOOO old. I read about it two years ago while working at a reactor facility... We came to the mutual conclusion that having the know-how to do something like this sure as hell doesn't mean that you SHOULD. The thing that really struck me was that while this kid obviously had an understanding of some of the involved physics, was there no alarm in the back of his head? I mean, you're building a NUCLEAR REACTOR. Did the health risks even occur to him?

  126. Atomic Energy Merit Badge requirement? by MattGWU · · Score: 1

    Hm...I have this one. Here is a page with info and the requirements (and, interestingly, a link to this same article): Atomic Energy.

    At first I thought this wouldn't actually fulfill any of the requirements, but another look (it's been awhile) shows that you CAN do a model of a reactor and label all of the parts. The article about him didn't mention anything about labels, and some MB counselors can be real sticklers about the wording of the requirements. Betcha he didn't get any credit for it, or had to go back and label his parts! On the other hand...it didn't say "non-functional model using soup cans, timbles, and elbow macaroni", either. Guess it would have been alright, providing he had his parts and their functions clearly labeled.

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  127. The Scout Motto by ari_j · · Score: 2

    "A Scout is honest, etc." "Honest" is the first one. He was using pseudonyms and claiming to be a professor. And I don't know of any merit badge that this project could possibly fill the requirements for; at least not one that he shouldn't have submitted it for as soon as he had a reaction of any sort, as work on merit badges expires after so many months' time. Moreover, if it was not for a merit badge but for his Eagle Scout project, one's Eagle Scout project is a team leadership project, not a solitary design/construction project. His entire pretense is invalid and his failure to live within the Scout Motto is saddening, especially when all the news reports give constant mention of his Boy Scouting.

  128. I was there: Boy Scout Troup 371, Clinton Twp. Mi by Wombat · · Score: 2, Informative

    This story has personal relevance for me. My brother and I were in the same Boy Scout troup as David Hahn, and went to high school with him. He's two years older than me, I believe, and one year younger than my brother. He briefly served as Senior Patrol Leader; I believe my Totin' Chit (knife certification card) was signed by him.
    One of the things I've noticed about all the articles I've read about him, is that they seem to give him credit for too much competence. On more than one occasion he showed up at a scout meeting with his eyebrows missing and his face red and burned from something gone awry. He used to pull me aside and tell me that he had Americanium in his pocket, at which point I would tell him he was probably making himself sterile, which he would shrug off. This is not good science by any means.
    He would ask my brother chemistry questions, and (after my brother stopped coming to meetings) he would ask me for advice about chemicals, reactions, nuclear power, etc (I, who was two years his junior and yet to take high school chemistry). We knew about some of his experiments, but in a lot of ways assumed he was exaggerating. And we didn't know the extent to which he had lied and swindled to obtain his supplies. We didn't know until we saw the report about the EPA on the news, cleaning up a backyard shed and thought, "Good God, that must be Dave..."
    I've given several interviews with an author who was apparently working on a full length book on Dave at various times as an undergrad, but I don't know if the book ever saw the light of day. Between the EPA incident and his joining the navy, my dad and I ran into him at the local Kroger where he was a stock boy (or something). His skin color was bright orange. He was experimenting with artificial tanning, and babbled on in pseudo-science talk about trying to permanently modify his skin color. ?! And last I heard he was a helmsman on the carrier Enterprise (though that was a few years ago, now).
    Several things frustrate me about this whole story:
    1) That he still made Eagle Scout. The Board of Review for advancement in Rank is composed of senior leaders of the troop; they are supposed to judge a candidate and, if they aren't satisfied, can refuse him the rank if they find him not meeting character requirements, etc. (what with the lying, cheating, etc, one would think Dave did not). But politics on local and notional board levels has contributed to what I consider dilution of the award in more cases than this (note, I'm not an eagle scout myself, i'm just arguing on principle).

    2) What he did was really, really stupid and dangerous. This is not an inspiring tale of a brilliant young man, but a cautionary tale of how a little knowledge and not much common sense can cause lots of trouble.

    3)This gets publicity for years, but legitimate science by young people is often overlooked.

    Sigh. I'll end my rant now. But I get frustrated everytime I see this story come up yet again.

    -Wombat.
    too dismayed for a sig.

    (Dave, if you're somehow reading this, I'm sorry, but what you did was dumb)

  129. *excellent* (mr burns style) by tahpot · · Score: 1

    I don't need to read any chem books, just print out this article, and bam! ....

  130. Glow Boy. by Wombat · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah. I forgot to mention, but as my brother pointed out in another comment, we used to call Dave "Glow Boy."

    Just thought people might find that amusing, if they hadn't seen it before...

    -Wombat.

  131. Wait for it.... by rat7307 · · Score: 1

    I remember this because... wait for it


    I'm a Tasmanian...


    true...

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    1. Re:Wait for it.... by dementis_canis · · Score: 1

      I'm a Tasmanian

      So you have two heads? :)

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      ...you devil!

  132. Reader's Digest by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2

    I recall reading about this instance in Reader's Digest. And on slashdot, years ago. I can't believe it's been reposted, some 4 years later.

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  133. Actual and real risk by panurge · · Score: 1

    Amazing, isn't it? Every year teenagers kill themselves with cars, motorbikes, guns, alcohol and drugs, in the first few cases often killing other people in the process. They also develop the smoking habit that will ultimately take years off their lives. Not a big story. Someone accumulates a quantity of radioisotopes and doesn't kill anybody, and this is a big story.
    Because, unlike all the other things mentioned, radioactivity is really scary and nasty and dangerous and might get used by terrorists
    Or because most people are totally irrational about radioactivity
    But yes, I'm prejudiced. Possibly because I was interested in the same things as David but I got encouraged by a sympathetic physics teacher, result a Cambridge science degree. For me this story is about the failure of a useless education system to identify and foster talent, resulting in an underperforming 20 year old who on the face of it had the energy and talent, with a bit of support, to make Harvard.

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    1. Re:Actual and real risk by elveu · · Score: 1

      the other reason why this is such big news is mostpeople can't so this. if someone dies by climbing a sky scraper the reactionis wow that would be cool if he made it and this is the same thing, people are interseted beceause it's comthing they are incapable of doing but a car accident anyone can do. also beceause this is uncommon it's more interesting if everytime somebody developed a smoking habbit an article was published on it then people would find it quite boring not to mention wipe out a number of forests in the process. however there is nothing to state that this knowledge wasn't given a chance, the education system isn't for everyone and the perception that smart people go to smart universitys is just stupid sure the better universitys cater for inteligent people but this may just be the way this guy chose to use his ability.

  134. Old.... by CyanideHD · · Score: -1

    This story was on Reader's Digest a couple years ago. It's always fun to reread this once in awhile.

  135. Offtopic by CoreyGH · · Score: 1

    Zane, I must say that sig is JUST WRONG! I ALMOST FRICKIN FELL OUTTA MY DAMN CHAIR. GOOD GOD THAT SCARED THE CRAP OUTTA ME!

    The fact that it's 1 in the morning and there weren't any lights on may have had some effect...

  136. Admit it Slashdotters by Treeluvinhippy · · Score: 1

    At least half of the posters who are calling this guy a dumbass are really saying to thimselves.

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  137. Skeptical by Prof_Dagoski · · Score: 2


    I read this story somewhere else. I remember having some problems with it. I thought it sounded like an urban legend. Has anyone done any serious fact checking on this one?

  138. Re:I was there: Boy Scout Troup 371, Clinton Twp. by metlin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You seem to stress on the fact that the guy should have been denied the award just because he stole a few small things and lied?

    Give me a break! Tell me, would he have done this if he had direct access to these materials in the first place? I find it disgusting that you'd place more importance to such trivialities of character, rather than his scientific spirit.

    In this context, this quote by HL Mencken comes to mind --

    The value the world sets upon motives is often grossly unjust and inaccurate. Consider, for example, two of them: mere insatiable curiosity and the desire to do good. The latter is put high above the former, and yet it is the former that moves one of the most useful men the human race has yet produced: the scientific investigator. What actually urges him on is not some brummagem idea of Service, but a boundless, almost pathological thirst to penetrate the unknown, to uncover the secret.... His prototype is not the liberator releasing slaves, the good Samaritan lifting up the fallen, but a dog sniffing tremendously at an infinite series of rat-holes.
    -- H. L. Mencken


    The guy has to be more than just admired for the fact that with little or no resources, he's built something that's definitely worth commending.

    2) What he did was really, really stupid and dangerous. This is not an inspiring tale of a brilliant young man, but a cautionary tale of how a little knowledge and not much common sense can cause lots of trouble.

    Huh? You know something? Any path that does not involve risk ultimately leads to stagnation. It's only the people who take risks, who are unafraid to break through the odds who help humanity progress.

    You cannot hope to build a rocket without risking it crashing somewhere. If that's the case, then most of the world's greatest scientists are idiots by your scale.

    If I didn't know better, I'd probably say you're jealous of this guy. Come on man! You're supposed to be an astrophysist (atleast that's what I gather from your site), you should know this of all people!!!

    All said and done, he's one smart dude. Naive yes, and a little ignorant too, but one of the smarter ones with a creative streak.

  139. It's easy! Try this: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.sit.wisc.edu/%7Eups/humor/bomb.html

  140. Mandatory Simpsons Quote by {Hecubus} · · Score: 1

    Scene: 1906, burly men pounding on anvils with massive hammers. "Atom Smashing"

    Burns Senior inspects a workers pockets as he leaves:

    "AH HA! Atoms! 1...2..3..4...5 SIX of them! Take him away!"

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  141. Re:I was there: Boy Scout Troup 371, Clinton Twp. by Wombat · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately I think you're missing/misunderstanding my point in a lot of ways.
    You said, "You seem to stress on the fact that the guy should have been denied the award just because he stole a few small things and lied?"

    Yes indeed. I am stressing that. He stole lots of smoke detectors from a summer camp. He lied a lot. The Eagle Scout Award is not one given for scientific achievment. It's given for completing specific requirements, public service, and maintaining a certain level of character. It's not a, "well, you did an impressive feat, have an award," thing. It's not supposed to be like a honorary Oscar.

    Second, if all he did was risk his own health, I would be far less critical. But with the experiments he was doing, he was putting the health of the community in danger (sort of anti-public service). A good scientist needs to have a sense of ethics. Yes, I agree that risk is inherent in new discovery, etc. but there is such a thing as acceptable risk. There's a reason the Space shuttle launches from a thin peninsula. Dave, at least from what I know and have read after the fact, did not even consider what effects his experiments might have on others. This was a serious lapse in judgement. This is why what I say was "really dumb," not to say that what he did didn't take hard work and dedication. But, IMHO, it was seriously misguided.

    You also say, You cannot hope to build a rocket without risking it crashing somewhere. If that's the case, then most of the world's greatest scientists are idiots by your scale.

    Since when did Stephen Hawking risk anyone's life? Brian Greene? Your statement here is silly, I'm afraid. See above section about acceptable risk. And I find your use of three exclamation points in the section I have not quoted inflamatory ;-) .

    Finally, you say that "When all is said and done, he's one smart dude." I guess this really depends on your definition of 'smart.' He did try to do something impressive, if dangerous, with at least a fair amount of chemistry knowledge at his disposal. I could give him the benefit of the doubt, and say that in conversations I had with him he feigned less knowledge than he had to make me feel like I could help him out, but I don't think that was the case. Maybe he advanced quickly shortly thereafter, and read a lot of books. In any case, there is a difference between knowledge and wisdom. And smart people can still do really stupid things.

    -Wombat

  142. Whatever happened to David Hahn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone know what happened to David Hahn? Is he still in the US Navy? Did he go back to University?

  143. Re:I was there: Boy Scout Troup 371, Clinton Twp. by metlin · · Score: 1

    About the first point, I'd say it's a question of perspective. I think a curious scientist meddling with "risky stuff" contributes a whole lot more to society than any good samaritanish work, or any kind of public service. Atleast that's my opinion, so it's entirely objective.

    Since when did Stephen Hawking risk anyone's life? Brian Greene?

    Huh dude... those are theoretical physicists you're talking about! There is a very big difference working with your hands and working on paper. I do agree that both are important (I do theoretical physics myself) but I feel that we're losing out on people who can work with their hands. Who can actually build good stuff. This guy may not be great, but he's got a streak of initiative which a whole lot of people do not have.

    And I find your use of three exclamation points in the section I have not quoted inflamatory ;-) .

    Ahem! I respect intellectuals! :-P ;-)

    Yes, I do agree that smartness and wisdom are relative terms. And in the end you say that smart people can do really stupid things. You know, a lot of people said that to Jules Verne abt his book "From Earth to the Moon".

    And it is some of those stupidities that sometime give us wonderful things :-) Relativity at work, I suppose...

  144. Darwin award? by Miska · · Score: 1

    And he almost won too

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  145. wow.... by MemeRot · · Score: 1

    I can really really really see the experience and professionalism you're talking about. You're posting this at your $200k a year job? On the company computer?

    Yikes.

    1. Re:wow.... by newerbob · · Score: 1

      I would love to fuck you up your ass to show you who's the bitch and who's the Master Programmer.

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    2. Re:wow.... by newerbob · · Score: 1

      You know, I really really really want to be your friend. Let's put this all behind us. Send me an email at wrstlgv@yahoo.com

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  146. Man it makes me wish I was a kid again... by A55M0NKEY · · Score: 1

    There must be a bunch of people who dick around with dangerous chemicals etc as kids...

    I got into it when I was 12 and ordered plans for making model rocket motors from one of the ads in Boys Life mag. There was an address for a chemical supply house from which I ordered 2 pints of concentrated sulfuric acid, 5lbs powdered potasium nitrate and 1lb powdered magnesium for about $35. I got sulfur powder from agway for $1.50/lb.

    With this I made gunpowder, nitric acid, nitrocellulose, and replaced charcoal with Mg powder in the gumpowder formula ( 2 moles Mg for every mole of C in gunpowder recipe ) to make some seriously powerful flash powder that burned my hand enough to send me to the emergency room ( I lighted about a cubic centimeter of the mixture with a wooden match and the flash powder scorched my thumb and wrist )

    I expected it to burn but I was suprised by how fast it went up. Once I learned the nature of the stuff ( do not make! it probably is not safe to handle, some mixtures are prone to go off spontaneously ) I made firecrackers by rolling up magazine subscription cards with toilet tissues, fuse and masking tape. These loosely confined firecrackers made 4 foot wide blinding white flashes and loud bangs when lit off.

    I did things that would earn me a Darwin Award. But I was not as bad as this kid.

    I could have made nitroglycerin ( Boy did I want to! ) but I didn't want to risk having hot acid explode and leave me a Freddy Krueger of a person. I could have made pipe bombs but I stuck to cardboard because there was no shrapnel and so it was safer.
    I can't say I used common sense but this guy seems to have been asking for it..

    My parents never knew the stuff I did. They knew I'd ordered chemicals, but they thought they were strictly for model rocket motors. Most of the explosions they heard were things I told them might happen. ( once, I tried powering a rocket engine with compressed air and hydrogen made with muriatic acid and charred aluminum cans in a pickle jar ) I wore goggles and the jar was behind cinder blocks and in a hole in the gravel driveway. When I used the sparker to ignite the engine there was still air in the jar and the resulting explosion blew the lid of the jar of acid 50 feet into the air and made the loudest bang I ever produced. I had done this with alcohol vapors and pure oxygen without that happening before...

    This was all before the internet was widely available and research hard..

    This post has no point accept that I wonder what other ppl have done that deserves a darwin award...

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  147. Mostly fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Many of the details in the article are quite inspired, but could not be carried out in practice. Probably Mr. Hahn embellished his exploits rather liberally. Hey, I would have done the same thing.

  148. I thought the hidden joke was.. by DRAGONWEEZEL · · Score: 1

    "Science allowed him to distance himself from his parents, to create and destroy things, to break the rules, and to escape into something he was a success at, while 'sublimating' a teenager's sense of failure, anger, and embarrassment into some
    really big explosions."

    To sublimate is to convert a solid Directly to a gas without first going through the liquid phase.

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