Slashdot Mirror
Red Hat Dissolves eCos Team, Changes Embedded Strategy
Anonymous Coward writes "This article at LinuxDevices.com, which includes an Interview with Red Hat CTO Michael Tiemann, probes Red Hat's dissolution of its eCos project team and the reasoning behind Red Hat's newly adjusted embedded linux strategy. Tiemann says his company is still in the embedded business, but considers embedded to be an aspect of a broader 'platform OS' strategy."
first post
PS jiste zatje kaffie
First post to mistakenly declare itself "first post" in an ironic manner.
g to the oatse
c to the izzex
Another manifestation of the linux is dying phenomenon.
www.goatse.da.ru
If IBM can fit Linux and X Windowing System into a 8meg watch, then You can fit linux onto almost anything. I don't see the point of having several thousand man hours used to develop an embeded OS that uses >100K of memory when you can use linux and just buy a slightly bigger memory chip. Its cheaper to use linux and buy a bigger memory chip (memory, even flash rom and CF) is cheap these days. It is especially cheaper to do that then hire a team of programmers to write an OS and applications from scratch just so you can use 100K of memory instead of a couple of meg of memory. And a couple of megabyte sized flash chip won't be *that* much larger then a comparable chip that holds 100K of memory.
Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
[1]We have it running on our particle accelerator and capturing data that can be pulled up, real time, on the member scientists browsers either in the office or in the field.
You'd have to ask a chemist.
Red Hat is fun. I think that everybody should use Red Hat. It is the best.
So it is not unusual for it to look like it is going in two different directions. I just hope this is an actual strategy.
Great Linux Site
I love how the article draws the line between embedded and _deeply embedded_ real-time systems. [Note the sarcasm: It's vague and left as a one shot deal] Many of the roll-your-own type systems are naturally highly specific, and so the general case fails to apply (or needs serious hacking). This was the reason why Windows XP embedded didn't get nearly as much hype for anything as it did for the concept of a stripped down windows os; A generalized OS isn't really what you need in these type of devices. How often do mission-critical _real time_ systems have extensive virtual memory systems? More often, they try to have enough memory that VM isn't intensive or only used by non-critical processes. http://www.ddj.com/topics/realtime/ for a great series of discussions. (Heavily java oriented, albeit) STILL, saying that _RedHat_ has effectively won out the "embedded linux market" wasn't saying a whole lot; the real market is for stripped down _exceedingly_ generic systems that are designed for extreme platform-specific customization and optimization. But hey, at least we know they wont BSOD. =)
When in doubt, parenthesize. At the very least it will let some poor schmuck bounce on the % key in vi. (Larry Wall)
Tasty Beef Jerky: What do I want for lunch?
.
perl_god: perhaps a little goat salad?
Tasty Beef Jerky: I'd rather have lots of goat
perl_god: goat for it !
perl_god: HAW HAW HAW
Tasty Beef Jerky: -1; Absolutely horrible.
Tasty Beef Jerky: +2; Part of this complete breakfast
perl_god: eyes is good eatin'
Tasty Beef Jerky: They're tough, but they have a burst of flavor inside each one.
perl_god: mmm like little salty cherry tomatoes!
perl_god: Fried Green Monkeys
Tasty Beef Jerky:I think I'm going to be ill.
perl_god: : -)
Tasty Beef Jerky: This is one of the most disgusting discussions I've ever had.
perl_god: that is saying a lot
Tasty Beef Jerky: The idea of an eyeball bursting open inside my mouth makes me want to gag.
perl_god: aw c'mon!
perl_god: and anyway, weren't you going to go eat?
Tasty Beef Jerky: I was, but I think I can hold off for a little while longer.
...
...
reality timed out @ 11:11
JERUSALEM (AP) -- CNN erred in giving more programming time to the family of a Palestinian suicide bomber than to his Israeli victims and tried to rectify the mistake, the network's top news executive said Sunday during a damage-control visit to Israel.
CNN's coverage of recent suicide bombings has provoked anger in Israel and led a local cable company to start carrying CNN's chief U.S. competitor, Fox News Channel. Fox said it expects others to follow suit. Recent comments from CNN founder Ted Turner describing both Israel and the Palestinians as terrorists have fueled Israeli anger.
Interviewed on Israel Television, Eason Jordan, CNN's president of newsgathering, said his company strives for fairness.
``On occasion we make mistakes but that's not because there's any bias,'' he said. ``CNN is not pro-Palestinian or anti-Israeli. We're fair, we're responsible in our reporting, we try to be as accurate as we possibly can be.''
Told that a recent CNN interview with the family of a Palestinian suicide bomber received more prominence than one with a relative of his victims, 1-year-old Sinai Keinan and her grandmother, Jordan said: ``That was a mistake, it should never have happened and I think we subsequently rectified that problem by airing extensively the interview with the Keinan family.''
CNN is airing a series of heavily promoted half-hour specials on Israeli victims of Palestinian terror attacks and Jordan says he has issued a directive ordering staff to ``go to extremes'' to avoid any impression the company sees moral equivalence between terror victims and their attackers.
'We now have a new system in place where we just refuse to air any videotape or statements of suicide bombers or their families unless there's an extraordinarily compelling situation,'' he said. ``Secondly, we want to focus more on the victims of terror. We have done that. I don't think we've done that enough.''
Senior Palestinian official Saeb Erekat said he was concerned Israeli government pressure could compromise the objectivity of CNN and other international media.
``I hope that journalism will not turn into shaping and packaging how they (the Israelis) think the media should be,'' he said. ``What is really striking is that CNN is airing one week on the Israeli victims and they don't show the courtesy of having at least one hour on Palestinian victims.''
Jordan said there was no link between CNN's fresh programming and the possibility that it could lose local markets to Fox.
Israeli criticism intensified last week when Turner was quoted seeming to equate suicide bombings and Israel's military response.
``I would make the case that both sides are engaged in terrorism,'' he said in an interview with The Guardian, a British newspaper. He later apologized, saying in an interview with Israeli newspaper, Yediot Ahronot, that suicide bombings are inexcusable.
CNN distanced itself from Turner's comments and pointed out that Turner no longer has an editorial role at the company. But the damage was done.
CNN's Jerusalem bureau was deluged with Israeli hate mail, the company posted an armed guard at the bureau entrance and Jordan flew to Israel, where he visited the sites of the last two terrorist bombings and scheduled meetings with Israeli journalists, terror victims, Palestinians and government officials.
Jordan said the company was taking criticism from both sides, with Palestinian officials he met on Saturday accusing CNN of serving Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.
``They believe that CNN is the propaganda arm of the Sharon government,'' he said.
I think this is actually one of the first
occuarances where the GPL fires back.
For most customized embedded systems you
need to modify the kernel.
And you are distributing this stuff
commercially. This would force you the
uncover the code. However this would
reveal too much of your design
to your competitors and therefore you
don't use Linux, but *BSD instead.
Additionally distros don't make much sense for embedded
systems - the designer of the
system has to chance so much at Linux
that he is in fact creating his personal distro
on his own. No reason for RH/Debian/BlubbBlubb/what ever based systems.
You are the dot in slashdot !
I
1. In this arid wilderness of steel and stone I raise up my voice that you may
hear. To the East and to the West I beckon. To the North and to the South I show
a sign proclaiming: Death to the weakling, wealth to the strong! 2. Open your
eyes that you may see, Oh men of mildewed minds, and listen to me ye bewildered
millions! 3. For I stand forth to challenge the wisdom of the world; to
interrogate the "laws" of man and of "God"! 4. I request reason for your golden
rule and ask the why and wherefore of your ten commandments. 5. Before none of
your printed idols do I bend in acquiescence, and he who saith "thou shalt" to
me is my mortal foe! 6. I dip my forefinger in the watery blood of your
impotent mad redeemer, and write over his thorn-torn brow: The TRUE prince of
evil - the king of slaves! 7. No hoary falsehood shall be a truth to me; no
stifling dogma shall encramp my pen! 8. I break away from all conventions that
do not lead to my earthly success and happiness. 9. I raise up in stern
invasion the standard of the strong! 10. I gaze into the glassy eye of your
fearsome Jehovah, and pluck him by the beard; I uplift a broad-axe, and split
open his worm-eaten skull! 11. I blast out the ghastly contents of
philosophically whited sepulchers and laugh with sardonic wrath!
THE BOOK OF SATAN
II Behold the crucifix; what does it symbolize? Pallid incompetence hanging on a
tree. I question all things. As I stand before the festering and varnished
facades of your haughtiest moral dogmas, I write thereon in letters of blazing
scorn: Lo and behold; all this is fraud! Gather around me, Oh! ye
death-defiant, and the earth itself shall be thine, to have and to hold! Too
long the dead hand has been permitted to sterilize living thought! Too long
right and wrong, good and evil have been inverted by false prophets! No creed
must be accepted upon authority of a "divine" nature. Religions must be put to
the question. No moral dogma must be taken for granted - no standard of
measurement deified. There is nothing inherently sacred about moral codes. Like
the wooden idols of long ago, they are the work of human hands, and what man has
made, man can destroy! He that is slow to believe anything and everything is of
great understanding, for belief in one false principle is the beginning of all
unwisdom. The chief duty of every new age is to upraise new men to determine
its liberties, to lead it towards material success - to rend the rusty padlocks
and chains of dead custom that always prevent healthy expansion. Theories and
ideas that may have meant life and hope and freedom for our ancestors may now
mean destruction, slavery, and dishonor to us! As environments change, no human
ideal standeth sure! Whenever, therefore, a lie has built unto itself a throne,
let it be assailed without pity and without regret, for under the domination of
an inconvenient falsehood, no one can prosper. Let established sophisms be
dethroned, rooted out, burnt and destroyed, for they are a standing menace to
all true nobility of thought and action! Whatever alleged "truth" is proven by
results to be but an empty fiction, let it be unceremoniously flung into the
outer darkness, among the dead gods, dead empires, dead philosophies, and other
useless lumber and wreckage! The most dangerous of all enthroned lies is the
holy, the sanctified, the privileged lie - the lie everyone believes to be a
model truth. It is the fruitful mother of all other popular errors and
delusions. It is a hydra-headed tree of unreason with a thousand roots. It is a
social cancer! The lie that is known to be a lie is half eradicated, but the
lie that even intelligent persons accept as fact - the lie that has been
inculcated in a little child at its mother's knee - is more dangerous to contend
against than a creeping pestilence! Popular lies have ever been the most potent
enemies of personal liberty. There is only one way to deal with them: Cut them
out, to the very core, just as cancers. Exterminate them root and branch.
Annihilate them, or they will us!
THE BOOK OF SATAN
III "Love one another" it has been said is the supreme law, but what power made
it so? Upon what rational authority does the gospel of love rest? Why should I
not hate mine enemies - if I "love" them does that not place me at their mercy?
Is it natural for enemies to do good unto each other - and WHAT IS GOOD? Can
the torn and bloody victim "love" the blood-splashed jaws that rend him limb
from limb? Are we not all predatory animals by instinct? If humans ceased
wholly from preying upon each other, could they continue to exist? Is not "lust
and carnal desire" a more truthful term to describe "love" when applied to the
continuance of the race? Is not the "love" of the fawning scriptures simply a
euphemism for sexual activity, or was the "great teacher" a glorifier of
eunuchs? Love your enemies and do good to them that hate and use you - is this
not the despicable philosophy of the spaniel that rolls upon its back when
kicked? Hate your enemies with a whole heart, and if a man smite you on one
cheek, SMASH him on the other!; smite him hip and thigh, for self-preservation
is the highest law! He who turns the other cheek is a cowardly dog! Give blow
for blow, scorn for scorn, doom for doom - with compound interest liberally
added thereunto! Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, aye four-fold, a hundred-fold!
Make yourself a Terror to your adversary, and when he goeth his way, he will
possess much additional wisdom to ruminate over. Thus shall you make yourself
respected in all the walks of life, and your spirit - your immortal spirit -
shall live, not in an intangible paradise, but in the brains and sinews of those
whose respect you have gained.
THE BOOK OF SATAN
IV Life is the great indulgence - death, the great abstinence. Therefore, make
the most of life - HERE AND NOW! There is no heaven of glory bright, and no
hell where sinners roast. Here and now is our day of torment! Here and now is
our day of joy! Here and now is our opportunity! Choose ye this day, this hour,
for no redeemer liveth! Say unto thine own heart, "I am mine own redeemer."
Stop the way of them that would persecute you. Let those who devise thine
undoing be hurled back to confusion and infamy. Let them be as chaff before the
cyclone and after they have fallen rejoice in thine own salvation. Then all thy
bones shall say pridefully, "Who is like unto me? Have I not been too strong for
mine adversaries? Have I not delivered MYSELF by mine own brain and body?"
THE BOOK OF SATAN
V Blessed are the strong, for they shall possess the earth - Cursed are the
weak, for they shall inherit the yoke! Blessed are the powerful, for they shall
be reverenced among men - Cursed are the feeble, for they shall be blotted out!
Blessed are the bold, for they shall be masters of the world - Cursed are the
righteously humble, for they shall be trodden under cloven hoofs! Blessed are
the victorious, for victory is the basis of right - Cursed are the vanquished,
for they shall be vassals forever! Blessed are the iron-handed, for the unfit
shall flee before them - Cursed are the poor in spirit, for they shall be spat
upon! Blessed are the death-defiant, for their days shall be long in the land -
Cursed are the gazers toward a richer life beyond the grave, for they shall
perish amidst plenty! Blessed are the destroyers of false hope, for they are
the true Messiahs - Cursed are the god-adorers, for they shall be shorn sheep!
Blessed are the valiant, for they shall obtain great treasure - Cursed are the
believers in good and evil, for they are frightened by shadows! Blessed are
those that believe in what is best for them, for never shall their minds be
terrorized - Cursed are the "lambs of God", for they shall be bled whiter than
snow! Blessed is the man who has a sprinkling of enemies, for they shall make
him a hero - Cursed is he who doeth good unto others who sneer upon him in
return, for he shall be despised! Blessed are the mighty-minded, for they shall
ride the whirlwinds - Cursed are they who teach lies for truth and truth for
lies, for they are an abomination! Thrice cursed are the weak whose insecurity
makes them vile, for they shall serve and suffer! The angel of self-deceit is
camped in the souls of the "righteous" - The eternal flame of power through joy
dwelleth within the flesh of the Satanist!
(AIR)
THE BOOK OF LUCIFER
THE ENLIGHTENMENT The Roman god, Lucifer, was the bearer of light, the spirit of
the air, the personification of enlightenment. In Christian mythology he became
synonymous with evil, which was only to have been expected from a religion whose
very existence is perpetuated by clouded definitions and bogus values! It is
time to set the record straight. False moralisms and occult inaccuracies must be
corrected. Entertaining as they might be, most stories and plays about Devil
worship must be recognized as the obsolete absurdities they are. It has been
said "the truth will make men free". The truth alone has never set anyone free.
It is only DOUBT which will bring mental emancipation. Without the wonderful
element of doubt, the doorway through which truth passes would be tightly shut,
impervious to the most strenuous poundings of a thousand Lucifers. How
understandable that Holy Scripture should refer to the Infernal monarch as the
"father of lies" - a magnificent example of character inversion. If one is to
believe this theological accusation that the Devil represents falsehood, then it
surely must be concurred that it was HE, NOT GOD, THAT ESTABLISHED ALL SPIRITUAL
RELIGIONS AND WHO WROTE ALL OF THE HOLY BIBLES! When one doubt is followed by
another, the bubble, grown large from long accumulated fallacies, threatens to
burst. For those who already doubt supposed truths, this book is revelation.
Then Lucifer will have risen. Now is the time for doubt! The bubble of falsehood
is bursting and its sound is the roar of the world!
- W A N T E D ! - GOD DEAD OR ALIVE IT is a popular misconception that the
Satanist does not believe in God. The concept of "God", as interpreted by man,
has been so varied throughout the ages, that the Satanist simply accepts the
definition which suits him best. Man has always created his gods, rather than
his gods creating him. God is, to some, benign - to others, terrifying. To the
Satanist "God" - by whatever name he is called, or by no name at all - is seen
as the balancing factor in nature, and not as being concerned with suffering.
This powerful force which permeates and balances the universe is far too
impersonal to care about the happiness or misery of flesh-and-blood creatures on
this ball of dirt upon which we live.
Anyone who thinks of Satan as evil should consider all the men, women, children,
and animals who have died because it was "God's will". Certainly a person
grieving the untimely loss of a loved one whould much rather have their loved
one with them than in God's hands! Instead, they are unctuously consoled by
their clergyman who says, "It was God's will, my dear"; or "He is in God's hands
now, my son." Such phrases have been a convenient way for religionists to
condone or excuse the mercilessness of God. But if God is in complete control
and as benign as he is supposed to be, why does He allow these things to happen?
Too long have religionists been falling back on their bibles and rulebooks to
prove or disprove, justify, condemn, or interpret.
The Satanist realizes that man, and the action and reaction of the universe, is
responsible for everything, and doesn't mislead himself into thinking that
someone cares. No longer will we sit back and accept "fate" without doing
anything about it, just because it says so in Chapter such and such, Psalm so
and so - and that's that! The Satanist knows that praying does absolutely no
good - in fact, it actually lessens the chance of success, for the devoutly
religious too often sit back complacently and pray for a situation which, if
they were to do something about it on their own, could be accomplished much
quicker!
The Satanist shuns terms such as "hope" and "prayer" as they are indicative of
apprehension. If we hope and pray for something to come about, we will not act
in a positive way which will make it happen. The Satanist, realizing that
anything he gets is of his own doing, takes command of the situation instead of
praying to God for it to happen. Positive thinking and positive action add up to
results.
Just as the Satanist does not pray to God for assistance, he does not pray for
forgiveness for his wrong doings. In other religions, when one commits a wrong
he either prays to God for forgiveness, or confesses to an intermediary and asks
him to pray to God for forgiveness for his sins. The Satanist knows that praying
does no good, confessing to another human being, like himself, accomplishes even
less - and is, furthermore, degrading.
When a Satanist commits a wrong, he realizes that it is natural to make a
mistake - and if he is truly sorry about what he has done, he will learn from it
and take care not to do the same thing again. If he is not honestly sorry about
what he has done, and knows he will do the same thing over and over, he has no
business confessing and asking forgiveness in the first place. But this is
exactly what happens. People confess their sins so that they can clear their
consciences - and be free to go out and sin again, usually the same sin.
There are many diferent interpretations of God, in the usual sense of the word,
as there are types of people. The images run from a belief in a god who is some
vague sort of "universal cosmic mind" to an anthropomorphic deity with a long
white beard and sandals who keeps track of every action of each individual.
Even within the confines of a given religion, the personal interpretations of
God differ greatly. Some religions actually go so far as to label anyone who
belongs to a religious sect other than their own a heretic, even though the
overall doctrines and impressions of godliness are nearly the same. For example:
The Catholics believe that the Protestants are doomed to Hell simply because
they do not belong to the Catholic Church. In the same way, many splinter groups
of the Christian faith, such as the evangelical or revivalist churches, believe
that the Catholics are heathens who worship graven images. (Christ is depicted
in the image that is most psychologically akin to the individual worshipping
him, and yet the Chrisitans criticize "heathens" for the worship of graven
images.) And the Jews have always been given the Devil's name.
Even though the god in all of these religions is basically the same, each
regards the way chosen by the others as reprehensible, and to top it all,
religionists actually PRAY for one another! They have scorn for the brothers of
the right-hand path because their religions carry different labels, and somehow
this animosity must be released. What better way than through "prayer"! What a
simperingly polite way of saying: "I hate your guts," is the thinly disguised
device known as praying for your enemy! Praying for one's own enemy is nothing
more than bargain-basement anger, and of a decidedly shoddy and inferior
quality!
If there has been so much violent discrepancy as to the proper way in which to
worship God, how many different interpretations of God can there be - and who is
right?
All devout "white-lighters" are concerned with pleasing God so that they might
have the "Pearly Gates" opened for them when they die. Nevertheless, if a man
has not lived his life in accordance with the regulations of his faith, he can
at the last minute call a clergyman to his deathbed for a final absolution. The
priest or minister will then come running on the double, to "make everything
right" with God and see to it that his passport to the Heavenly Realm is in
order. (The Yezidis, a sect of Devil worshippers, take a different viewpoint.
They believe that God is all-powerful, but also all-forgiving, and so
accordingly feel that it is the Devil whom they must please, as he is the one
who rules their lives while here on earth. They believe so strongly that God
will forgive all of their sins once they have been given the last rites, that
they feel no need to concern themselves with the opinion God may hold of them
while they live.)
With all of the contradictions in the Christian scriptures, many people
currently cannot rationally accept Christianity the way it has been practiced in
the past. Great numbers of people are beginning to doubt the existence of God,
in the established Christian sense of the word. So, they have taken to calling
themselves "Christian Atheists". True, the Christian Bible is a mass of
contradictions; but what could be more contradictory than the term "Christian
Atheist"?
If prominent leaders of the Christian faith are rejecting the past
interpretations of God, how then can their followers be expected to adhere to
previous religious tradition?
With all the debates about whether or not God is dead, if he isn't he had better
have MEDICARE! THE GOD YOU SAVE MAY BE YOURSELF ALL religions of a
spiritual nature are inventions of man. He has created an entire system of gods
with nothing more than his carnal brain. Just because he has an ego, and cannot
accept it, he has to externalize it into some great spiritual device which he
calls "God".
God can do all the things man is forbidden to do - such as kill people, perform
miracles to gratify his will, control without any apparent responsibility, etc.
If man needs such a god and recognizes that god, then he is worshipping an
entity that a human being invented. Therefore, HE IS WORSHIPPING BY PROXY THE
MAN THAT INVENTED GOD. Is it not more sensible to worship a god that he,
himself, has created, in accordance with his own emotional needs - one that best
represents the very carnal and physical being that has the idea-power to invent
a god in the first place?
If man insists on externalizing his true self in the form of "God", then why
fear his true self, in fearing "God", - why praise his true self in praising
"God", - why remain externalized from "God" IN ORDER TO ENGAGE IN RITUAL AND
RELIGIOUS CEREMONY IN HIS NAME?
Man needs ritual and dogma, but no law states that an externalized god is
necessary in order to engage in ritual and ceremony performed in a god's name!
Could it be that when he closes the gap between himself and his "God" he sees
the demon of pride creeping forth - that very embodiment of Lucifer appearing in
his midst? He no longer can view himself in two parts, the carnal and the
spiritual, but sees them merge as one, and then to his abysmal horror, discovers
that they are only the carnal - AND ALWAYS WERE! Then he either hates himself to
death, day by day - or rejoices that he is what he is!
If he hates himself, he searches out new and more complex spiritual paths of
"enlightenment" in hopes that he may split himself up again in his quest for
stronger and more externalized "gods" to scourge his poor miserable shell. If he
accepts himself, but recognizes that ritual and ceremony are the important
devices that his invented religions have utilized to sustain his faith in a lie,
then it is the SAME FORM OF RITUAL that will sustain his faith in the truth -
the primitive pageantry that will give his awareness of his own majestic being
added substance.
When all religious faith in lies has waned, it is because man has become closer
to himself and farther from "God"; closer to the "Devil." If this is what the
devil represents, and a man lives his life in the devil's fane, with the sinews
of Satan moving in his flesh, then he either escapes from the cacklings and
carpings of the righteous, or stands proudly in his secret places of the earth
and manipulates the folly-ridden masses through his own Satanic might, until
that day when he may come forth in splendor proclaiming "I AM A SATANIST! BOW
DOWN, FOR I AM THE HIGHEST EMBODIMENT OF HUMAN LIFE!" SOME EVIDENCE OF A NEW
SATANIC AGE THE seven deadly sins of the Christian Church are: greed, pride,
envy, anger, gluttony, lust, and sloth. Satanism advocates indulging in each of
these "sins" as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification.
A Satanist knows there is nothing wrong with being greedy, as it only means that
he wants more than he already has. Envy means to look with favor upon the
possessions of others, and to be desirous of obtaining similar things for
oneself. Envy and greed are the motivating forces of ambition - and without
ambition, very little of any importance would be accomplished.
Gluttony is simply eating more than you need to keep yourself alive. When you
have overeaten to the point of obesity, another sin - pride - will motivate you
to regain an appearance that will renew your self-respect.
Anyone who buys an article of clothing for a purpose other than covering his
body and protecting it from the elements is guilty of pride. Satanists often
encounter scoffers who maintain that labels are not necessary. It must be
pointed out to these destroyers of labels that one or many articles they
themselves are wearing are not wearing are not necessary to keep them warm.
There is not a person on this earth who is completely devoid of ornamentation.
The Satanist points out that any ornamentation of the scoffer's body shows that
he, too, is guilty of pride. Regardless of how verbose the cynic may be in his
intellectual description of how free he is, he is still wearing the elements of
pride.
Being reluctant to get up in the morning is to be guilty of sloth, and if you
lie in bed long enough you may find yourself commiting yet another sin - lust.
To have the faintest stirring of sexual desire is to be guilty of lust. In order
to insure the propagation of humanity, nature made lust the second most powerful
instinct, the first being self-preservation. Realizing this, the Christian
Church made fornication the "Original Sin". In this way they made sure no one
would escape sin. Your very state of being is as a result of sin - the Original
sin!
The strongest instinct in every living thing is self-preservation, which brings
us to the last of the seven deadly sins - anger. Is it not our instinct for
self-preservation that is aroused when someone harms us, when we become angry
enough to protect ourselves from further attack? A Satanist practices the motto,
"If a man smite thee on one cheek, smash him on the other!" Let no wrong go
unredressed. Be as a lion in the path - be dangerous even in defeat!
Since man's natural instincts lead him to sin, all men are sinners; and all
sinners go to hell. If everyone goes to hell, then you will meet all your
friends there. Heaven must be populated with some rather strange creatures if
all they lived for was to go to a place where they can strum harps for eternity.
"Times have changed. Religious leaders no longer preach that all our natural
actions are sinful. We no longer think sex is dirty - or that taking pride in
ourselves is shameful - or that wanting something someone else has is vicious."
Of course not, times have changed! "If you want proof of this, just look at how
liberal churches have become. Why, they're practicing all the things that you
preach."
Satanists hear these, and similar statements, all the time; and they agree
wholeheartedly. BUT, if the world has changed so much, why continue to grasp at
the threads of a dying faith? If many religions are denying their own scriptures
because they are out of date, and are preaching the philosophies of Satanism,
why not call it by its rightful name - Satanism? Certainly it would be far less
hypocritical.
In recent years there has been an attempt to humanize the spiritual concept of
Christianity. This has manifested itself in the most obvious non-spiritual
means. Masses which had been said in Latin are now said in native languages -
which only succeeds in making the nonsense easier to understand, and at the same
time robs the ceremony of the esoteric nature which is consistent with the
tenets of the dogma. It is much simpler to obtain an emotional reaction using
words and phrases that cannot be understood than it is with statements which
even the simplest mind will question when hearing them in an understandable
language.
If priests and ministers were to have used the devices to fill their churches
one hundred years ago that they use today, they would have been charged with
heresy, called devils, oft-times persecuted, but certainly excommunicated
without hesitation.
The religionists wail, "We must keep up with the times," forgetting that, due to
limiting factors and deeply engrained laws of white light religions, there can
never be sufficient change to meet the needs of man.
Past religions have always represented the spiritual nature of man, with little
or no concern for his carnal or mundane needs. They have considered this life
but transitory, and the flesh merely a shell; physical pleasure trivial, and
pain a worthwhile preparation for the "Kingdom of God". How well the utter
hypocrisy comes forth when the "righteous" make a change in their religion to
keep up with man's natural change! The only way that Christianity can ever
completely serve the needs of man is to become as Satanism is NOW.
It has become necessary for a NEW religion, based on man's natural instincts, to
come forth. THEY have named it. It is called Satanism. It is that power
condemned that has caused the religious controversy over birth-control measures
- a disgruntled admission that sexual activity, for fun, is here to stay.
It is the "Devil" who caused women to show their legs, to titillate men - the
same kind of legs, now socially acceptable to gaze upon, which are revealed by
young nuns as they walk about in their shortened habits. What a delightful step
in the right (or left) direction! Is it possible we will soon see "topless" nuns
sensually throwing their bodies about to the "Missa Solemnis Rock"? Satan smiles
and says he would like that fine - many nuns are very pretty girls with nice
legs.
OMG BIG PENIS ATE MY SOUP
This doesn't make sense. Embedded systems customers have very different needs to ordinary customers. For them to have dissolved their embedded systems division means only one thing: they weren't getting enough business.
It looks like Linux isn't making much impact on the embedded market after all. Right now, embedded just isn't its forte.
Yarrr.
If find it amazing how hard Red Hat seem to find the embedded systems industry. Cygnus where around since 1989 providing Open source support for the embedded systems industry. They still have Cygwin...
We need another cool Open source embedded support company to take up the void left by Cygnus...
M0571y H@rml355.
here at CNET:
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-938685.html
Interview with Chief Executive Matthew Szulik on Red Hat's view of the desktop world.
I'd like to see a Linux kernel in ROM :-) Then you could just switch on, and use the machine.
It'd be like having an 1980's 8-bit machine again, only better.
Thought RED HAT created linux!
---
This post is protected by the DMTA
What you say!!
I am particularly upset about this, because my company began development on an industrial product with eCos at its core. We invested at least $50,000.00 in development. Now, management is freaking out, and we have to investigate new operating systems, and possibly re-develop some key portions of our system.
Just kidding. We didn't really do any of that. But seriously now, my company was seriously considering eCos as the operating system for our upcoming project. Personally, I would have greatly preferred eCos over the other solutions we're evaluating, particularly because I'd much rather support eCos than some proprietary solution. (And because the money spent on the proprietary solution could be spent on better analysis tools and whatnot, and because you don't normally get the sources for proprietary stuff, which is a huge problem in hard-core embedded systems, and because... ten thousand other reasons.) I was looking forward to working on eCos, as it appeared to be a very promising system. So this is pretty disappointing news.
As a long time RTOS programmer, and being a contributor to the ECOS project, I think that this is a terrible blow for the open source community. Is open source (and LGPL) viable? This decision suggests not.
The best thing about open source is that you don't have to rely on an inept customer service person to figure out that they in fact have problems in their system. I've spent weeks asking a large closed source and very expensive RTOS vendor to fix some of the dumbest OS bugs (admittedly in a new JVM product they'd hardly released yet)--they still don't believe the one page test programs I send them; in fact, I've just been simply astounded at the dumb things I've been told to do. There's nothing worse than knowing that if you had the source, you'd just simply fix the problem, submit the change, and move on. And you know what's worst? The development tools for this expensive RTOS were cygnus anyway.
The eCos source code was very well written, it's confiuration understandable (and scriptable!), and all in all, a very well concieved project. I will do a CVS update now; and hang on tight to that system... it will be well worth it.
Most projects I see that use embedded software is in "all in 1 chips" that hold a decent line of I/O, a watchdog (nearly every chip), decent "IPS"/"FLOPS" (whichever one is more needed) rating for job being done and onboard memory.
If your device is fairly simple, you can easily get away from coding the whole thing in the chip ASM and feel comfortable. Anyways, if you need more memory, you have extra address lines.
If something more is required (some sort of a UI), build from the ground up tailoring the whole OS to your hardware. Linux is NOT needed in this type of device. Hoever, it seems viable for palmtops and other small computing environments, as windows seems to take more hardware power to do the same things (though slightly beter).
Well, I'm always in favor of reorganizing -- rallying the troops, as it were -- when things go amiss. But I can't help but think RedHat blew it this time.
The embedded world, unlike the desktop and server markets, operates on a nano time scale. Companies pop up and evaporate faster than you can blink your eyes. In this dog-eat-dog environment, a week's hesitation can cause a lifetime's poverty.
I think RedHat may have faltered, and I don't think their competitors will let them get away with it. If history is any indication of future events, it's time to kiss eCos goodbye.
Karma: Good (despite my invention of the Karma: sig)
Assuming a tiny bootstrap program was created that altered the kernel and loaded it into memory on-the-fly, would either the program or the alterations need to be made public?
Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
-- Dr. Spock, stardate 2822-3.
http://www.linuxdevices.com/links/LK8294110575
... sounds like a pretty neat idea to me :) (there are some similar projects besides this, but this one sprung up high on the list ...)
Definitely not ready for Best Buy, but
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
In a nutshell: "We're leaving the embedded market because we want to focus on the embedded market." Dubious statements like these raise questions about what the true rationale is. I'm just hoping they aren't feeling the squeeze that most Linux businesses have been since the collapse of the heady .COM era.
Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft!
there's an interesting article on this at heavens fantasy - dont be put off by the name!
I'm assuming the ear wax has accumulated to the point that you cannot hear thru that ear, or your hearing thru that ear is severely impaired. I've had that happen twice in my life so far and I'm still young. I think it might end up being a chronic problem. But I can tell you how to clear the wax.
Go to a pharmacy and buy an eye dropper. Also, buy olive oil -- at the pharmacy. They probably carry it in small bottles, specially designed for medical use. Some cotton balls (or "absorbent puffs" as market- droids call them) are helpful but not essential.
Before going to bed, do the following:
Tilt your head so the plugged ear is pointing up toward the ceiling. Use the eye dropper put some olive oil into the plugged ear (my doctor always said "a few drops" but I just fill it up). Plug the ear with a cotton ball (or part of one). If you don't have any cotton balls, some toilet paper will work well. Keep your head tilted as you walk to your bed. Lie down in bed, with the plugged ear still pointed straight up. Sleep in that position.
In the morning, remove the cotton ball. You may need to use the eye dropper to spray water into your ear (gently!) to fully clear it.
If this hasn't removed the blocking wax, repeat it the following night. Also, be sure to clean the eye dropper before using it on your ear. All decent eye droppers are packaged with a little brush with bristles arranged in a cylinder to easily scrub the inside of the eye dropper.
The olive oil softens the wax so it will break up more easily.
As always, consult your physician before attempting this. You wouldn't trust your hearing or your health to some Slashdot poster would you? Also, try punching "ear wax" and "ear wax removal" into Google to see what the medical websites have to say.
Disclaimer: I am not a doctor or a physician or anything like that. If you try this and you lose your hearing or something else horrible happens to you, I am not responsible. I am merely suggesting something that worked for me. You might actually have a totally different problem.
That guy is not the real goatse man! You should be ashamed of yourself trying to rip off our cherished interweb institutions!
-- You are such a fucking fag
You, sir, are no bob_abooey!
Linux the platform.
Linux the project.
Linux the tshirt.
Linux the lunch box.
Linux the flame-thrower (the kids love that one).
And of course, Linux the doll.
...what do you guys think about that stoned anime girl in the one banner ad?
I've done work in industrial automation, and a real-time system is not necessarily embedded, no is an embedded system necessarily real time.
Best Slashdot Co
Why should I spend weeks to months writing disk drivers, gui's, keyboard interfaces, etc, when there are OS's that have already done that?
Best Slashdot Co
Sigh.
So don't bitch about it unless you also want to admit that you don't have the ability or the inclination to do anything about it.
Brilliant troll! eCos was never open source.
Well, the embedded business is tough. Not sure how one makes it in that part of the industry without the demaded for embedded chips. The logical course is to do what Redhat is doing and change it slightly so that the structure is more benifical..
You're right, most embedded devices do not have operating systems, or have any such need. i.e. the computers which control engines in cars, various monitoring devices and so forth.
They're usually something like an 80186 with 16K of RAM hand coded in assembler.
But the term embedded has become confused as of late with appliance computing where you make a special purpose computer using fairly generic parts, but configure the OS and software so it provides only a specific function. Things like those Cobalt servers, and so forth.
I've been developing an embedded system with eCos for only a couple months, but the general feeling on the eCos developer and user lists with respect to Redhat dropping eCos is "who cares?". Apparently Redhat's support for the product wasn't stellar which is really the only value-add you are paying for (except perhaps for the gnupro toolchain). eCos 2.x in cvs is gpl'd with one exception to allow some embedded software not be be gpl'd itself. Redhat says that eCos will continue to be hosted at sources.redhat.com. Should that not happen, there is always sourceforge. The eCos developers, however, are out of work and updates to the source tree will probably be slower since they all have to find new jobs now. Patches seem to be submitted by everyone and they seem to have slowed down the review and acceptance of patches.
None of this is not a problem for me. I will continue using eCos.
-tim
Buddy ==> Slammer
HA HA HA!
Linux companies are laying people off in large numbers and this is just a continuation of that trend.
We get signal.
2. Yes, some embedded designs (those at the smaller end of the scale) don't use an OS or a kernel of any kind. But it's equally important to realize (as some 5-rated slashdot poster invariably doesn't) that the embedded CPU in a piece of $100,000 network equipment probably does run a hefty OS kernel, especially if it needs multitasking, networking, field debugging, or upgrading (as many pieces of $100,000 network equipment do).
3. Note that I say "OS kernel", not "OS". Most PC users tend to think of an "OS" as a giant 500MB distribution that includes everything from printer drivers to web browsers. Even heavyweight embedded systems are a lot slimmer (kernel+libraries+app, perhaps), but may still bear some resemblance to what you consider an "Operating System".
4. There's as many penny-pinching companies doing embedded designs as there are penny-pinching companies of other flavors. Some companies have big issues with the costs of VxWorks and similar products.
5. Support is really important in the embedded world, where you're always going to have to customize somebody else's code. As a corollary, survival of the company you're buying from is very important too (definitely an concern with today's crop of embedded-linux companies). Note that this and #4 are in conflict.
314-15-9265
It doesn't necessarily mean it's bad news. It may even be good news.
When Eazel died, Nautilus development didn't die. Instead, it expanded and resulted in a really nice, more focused and componentized part of GNOME. Why? Becuse Nautilus now grows in the direction the community wants, not in the direction that the Eazel wanted, so business model-related features/bloat and GNOME-duplicated functionality were stripped away.
If you feel strongly about eCos, set up a CVS on sourceforge or savannah.gnu.org and see if anyone on the Debian mailing list is interesting in porting Debian to eCos (like they do for HURD, FreeBSD, Linux, and Win32 (although this port is *really* basic)). Or submit an "Ask Slashdot" call for developers and see who is interested. Either way, the source gives you a lot of power to control your OS choice.
Red Hat is dropping hints about a common Desktop Linux. Article on C|NET
"We think we can deliver a fully integrated solution that is based on open-source technologies," Szulik said. A year ago, information technology executives didn't consider the issue, but "I would say it's accelerating (and) showing up in three to four conversations a month now with chief information officers."
Darn it! I read the first three words, got exited, and then was crushed with disappointment to see "eCos Team" (whatever the hell that is) afterward.
Down with Red Hat!
We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked.
Nobody cares. Most programmers don't care if it runs on your RISC box. They have written code that is usefull to them. If you can use it, fantastic. If not than keep your mouth shut.
btw, here is how to access Red Hat's eCos CVS repository: eCos v2.0 CVS source repository.
cpeterso
the "save money because we're gonna be dead in the water in two years" strategy.
good luck.
If you make a product with a license hostile to business, you are not going to profit. Until the GPL is dropped, Linux will continue to falter. My suggestion is to switch to MacOS X or FreeBSD.
How do I know if CLIT is right for me?
--A different AC than the other guy
For those of you who actually know a little bit about the embedded market, go surf the RTEMS web pages for info about another fine embedded OS. This is is actually covered by the GPL, with a sensible amendment that you CAN do binary-only distributions of your product that includes RTEMS. The folks there are quite nice and very knowlegable, too.
http://www.oarcorp.com/RTEMS/rtems.html
eCos 1.3.1 is indeed not GPLd (it is under the RHEPL, an MPL derivative), however the stuff in the eCos CVS repository is GPLd. Or more accurately it is GPLd with a special exception to make it more suitable for embedded systems.
Netcraft has now confirmed BSD is dying Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraftsurvey which plainly states that BSD has lost more market share this news serves to reinforce what weve known all along BSD is collapsing in complete disarray as further exemplified by failing dead last samagcom samagcom in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking testYou dont need to be a Kreskin amdestcom to predict BSDs future The hand writing is on the wall BSD faces a bleak future In fact there wont be any future at all for BSD because BSD is dying Things are looking very bad for BSD As many of us are already aware BSD continues to lose market share Red ink flows like a river of blood FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all having lost 93 of its core developersLets keep to the facts and look at the numbers OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD How many users of NetBSD are there Lets see The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1 Therefore there are about 70005 1400 NetBSD users BSDOS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts Therefore there are about 700 users of BSDOS A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the BSD market Therefore there are 700014007004 36400 FreeBSD users This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenetposts Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek abysmal sales and so on FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS Now BSDI is also deadits corpse turned over to yet another charnel house All major surveys show that BSD has steadily declined in market share BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim If BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers BSD continues to decay Nothing short of a miracle could save it atthis point in time For all practical purposes BSD is dead BSD is dying