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Doom3 and OpenGL2.0

Screaming Lunatic writes "John Carmack has decided to write an OpenGL2.0 rendering path for Doom3. You can read his .plan or you can finger him. This will be huge for the development of OpenGL2.0. Video cards are typically benchmarked with respect to the framerate when running Quake3. Future benchmarks will be based on Doom3. This means IHVs will be somewhat forced to write good OpenGL2.0 implementations."

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  1. Easy Target by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 3, Funny
    You can read his .plan or you can finger him.
    Okay, this is just too easy. This is +5 Funny bait if I ever saw it. It's just a matter of time.
    1. Re:Easy Target by Jester998 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "You can read his .plan or you can finger him."

      ... but it's so hard to choose!

  2. And why would this be a good thing? by PissingInTheWind · · Score: 4, Funny
    DirectX has already won. OpenGL is dead.

    Why people can't just agree that it's a nice, easy standard, very powerful, flexible and open?

    oops, excuse me for a while, I think I forgot to take my medication today.

    --

    A message from the system administrator: 'I've upped my priority. Now up yours.'
    1. Re:And why would this be a good thing? by Dwonis · · Score: 3, Funny
      OpenGL is dead.

      Yeah! Just like BSD...

  3. Fingers by Wrexen · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..or you can finger him...
    *pictures thousands of /.ers fingering him at once*
    I think this is going to be a very uncomfortable day for someone

    1. Re:Fingers by Huge+Pi+Removal · · Score: 1, Funny

      If someone posted the goatse.cx pic at this point, would it be the first time ever it was ontopic?

      --
      - Oliver

      The right to bear arms is only slightly less stupid than the right to arm bears...
    2. Re:Fingers by ipjohnson · · Score: 1, Funny

      Alot of the unix commands still make me blush ... touch , unzip , finger , mount , unmount , sleep

      And I've been a unix developer for 5 years ;-)

  4. A Proverb by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can finger your girlfriend,
    You can finger John Carmack,
    But you can't get your girlfriend to write good vertex shading code!

    --
    I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
    1. Re:A Proverb by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hold out for a girlfriend who shades higher-order surfaces. Also, hold out for a girlfriend with higher-order surfaces!

  5. Great. More time wasted installing in Linux by cculianu · · Score: 3, Funny
    GREAT. Just when I managed to FINALLY get OpenGL 1.2 working in Linux, I have to now struggle with getting OpenGL 2.0 working. Can you say: sleepless nights and/or much frustration?

    Also, I hope the card manufacturers get off their derriers and actually release OpenGL 2.0 drivers and libraries faster than like 2 years after they do it for Windows. Stupid MS loving bastardos!!

  6. Isn't it about time by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 4, Funny

    You made a carmack icon? Impale it on a stick for extra grins.

  7. Re:I'd read it if I could... by FrEaK7782 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey, my company's firewall blocks it too. Suckage... I wonder if our companies are using the same stuff. Or *gasp* do we work at the same company??

  8. Carmack's word is like a blessing from god himself by DooBall · · Score: 1, Funny

    He's todays modern day Leonardo da Vinci! His brain is an untapped resource. We need to tap into his brain directy. A digital connection from his brain straight to PC.

  9. Doom Source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    void Mordor(Doom as Mountain){
    One Doom::Ring to rule('') them(ALL)
    One Doom::Ring to bind('') them(NULL)
    One Doom::Ring to bring('') them(ALL)
    In VRTX_SHADER("Darkness") bind('') them(NULL)

    return Frodo;
    }

    Wait. Wrong doom... nevermind

  10. I Can't Wait... by $0+31337 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... For this game to come out! I just went on my super cool linux box and renamed all my OpenGL1.2.1 files to OpenGL2.0.0!!! I am soooo ready for doom3!

    1. Re:I Can't Wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      your attempt is futile without using:

      ldconfig

      I feel so ashamed to be compelled to correct you in such a way. I feel ashamed more of myself than of you. Haven't I taught you everything there is to know about trolling, Son? I don't think I can live with myself. (*cries) (*blam******thud*)

  11. Re:Nothing like a little Carmack... by Dr.+Awktagon · · Score: 5, Funny

    No kidding..

    their implementation of hardware displacement mapping is NOT quad based. ... so even if we don't use it because of the geometry amplification issues, I think it will serve the noble purpose of killing dead any proposal to implement a quad based solution.

    Yes! I was thinking the same thing myself! Geometry amplification is key here.

    support for both the fallback ARB_ extension path (without specular highlights), and the NV10 NVidia register combiners path. ..... They don't support NV_vertex_program_1_1, which I use for the NV20 path, and when I hacked my programs back to 1.0 support for testing, an issue did show up..

    Definitely, any fool could see that! Watch those extension paths!

    A GL2 driver won't give any theoretical advantage over the current back ends optimized for cards with 7+ texture capability

    It certainly won't! 7+ is definitely not the optimized back-end texture capability quad rendering shade vertex OpenGL. Specular highlight.. Phong.. wireframe.. raycasting ... shadow cache.. texture map.. bump map... uh.. BFG 9000!!

  12. Re:Nothing like a little Carmack... by tswinzig · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't feel too bad, when you ask Carmack to speak about something other than 3D graphics, it sounds something like this:

    John: My underwear have my name in them. Aye'm. They say John Carmack. These are definitely not my underwear. I get my underwear at K-Mart in Cincinatti, Ohio. Aye'm.

    You: Did you fart? Did you fart, John? Did you fucking fart? How can you stand that, John? How can you fucking stand that?

    John: I don't mind. Aye'm.

    You: I'm gonna let ya' in on a little secret, John. K-Mart sucks.

    John: Five minutes 'til Wapner.

    You: OK, back to your area of normalcy, John. If you were going to draw a cube, what lengths for x, y, and z would you use?

    John: 82, 82, 82.

    --

    "And like that ... he's gone."
  13. take this in the spirit it is written in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    honest, this isn't a troll. true story, a sad one.

    good friend of mine, a roommate for years , was in a decent learning stage with computers. Blue collar worker, saved his nickles and dimes, bought a decent but used and still almost new computer. Was doing fine, learning new things, etc.

    got a copy of doom.

    He became addicted, I got to the point I hated that evil sound coming from that game. He would stay up until very late playing it, lost all interest in learning about computers. His modem screwed up and he didn't bother to get another one, stopped surfing. He started mising work sometimes, claimed he was "sick", but it was doom and beer and lack of sleep. He worked at that demon fucking game like a job paying triple time. We're talking some days 16-18 hours playing doom.

    One day he gets in a small beef at work, it was reallynothing, but he walks off the job, goes home. (we worked the same place). I get home later, he's drunk playing doom, oblivious, not responsive, wouldn't haerdly acknowledge a "HI0what happened today?" from me.

    He stayed up all night playing doom, getting drunker.

    In the morning, I had to go to work, I see him stagger into the kitchen and go to the cupboard and barely be able to uncap an aspirin bottle, shakes a few out, goes back to doom.

    So, I'm hitting the shower, got to go to work. a few minutes later Ihear BANG!

    He'd walked out into the front yard in surburbia, stuck a 12 gauge in his mouth, and there was pieces of skull and brains and hair all over the front yard.

    fuck doom and the doom developers. fuck them all to hell and back. I knew that game was evil first time I saw him play it, along with the subsonics in the audio youcould feel. it's just "wrong". that shit is evil. so are a bunch of other video games I've seen. Not all of them by any means, but some certainly are. They are jack off violence pornographic. That's as simple and clear as it can be put into the english language. They implicity revel in heinous repulsive activity, merely "simulated". It's porno, admit it, sickass violent porno.

    This is a real story, happened 4 years ago. This is also after around 50,000 or so estimated forum and news posts I've done on the net over the years the most I have ever cursed in a single post. In fact I hardly ever curse, I really can't cuss this shit out enough. Ya, he did it to himself, it was his "choice" but I'm telling you, that fucking doom had something to do with it, too, it was obvious as shit. It hit him same as any hard drug, and I'd bet a years pay there's people here just as addicted to doom or something like that, or theyknow someone like that, but are chicken shit to go against geekdom and admit that some things are just plain "wrong"and shouldn't be done.

    If there's an doom developers read this, I fucking hate you. You are some sick people.