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DotGNU Meet-a-thon
Gopal.V writes "It's time for the Quarterly DotGNU IRC Meet-a-thon. As usual, we'll be having it on #dotgnu on irc.openprojects.net. We will be discussing the current state of DotGNU, where we've gone and where we should be headed. Anyone who is interested should join us. In particular, we are not only looking for developers to be involved in this meet, but also potential DotGNU users. We are very interested in addressing any questions/input from anyone who will one day use our framework. So come one, come all. The last meet was a lot of fun and we expect this this IRC meet will be even better than the last. Again, the IRC meet is taking place on: Server: irc.openprojects.net, Channel: #dotgnu. The meeting will run for a 36 hour period from 22:00 UTC Saturday 29 July 2002 until 10:00 UTC Monday 31 July. Every 4 hours will be an official meet time, when the major DotGNU members will be online. Most discussions will revolve round DotGNU projects and other issues concerning freedom in the new MS initiatives like .NET , and Palladium." I think this announcement may be slightly wrong on the times since it disagrees with the post to the email list; but this is posted as submitted.
I've been upset with this too. I wouldn't put it as above, although there are some valid.. statements, heh ;)
Try this url too for a petition against this silliness.
Why do people keep modding up this troll?
Ripped off from
Stallman added: "Mono will enable you to run your C# programs on the free GNU/Linux operating system using exclusively free software. With Mono, you will be able to use C# if you wish, without surrendering your freedom to study, share, change, and generally control all the software that you use."
I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
JSeymour (the "Anonymous Coward" who posted the message I am replying to) is quite correct. As a person running one of the "for lilo" petitions, I have received some fake posts, which are rather degrading. Not towards lilo, as he didn't post it, but towards the people who posted. I then got e-mails from people who told me to take down the petition, because lilo should leave OPN.
This is a very immature attitude. If you do not like lilo or OPN, go use one of the many alternative IRC networks. Nobody is forcing anybody to be here, and nobody is forcing anybody to pay. Many of us do not mind helping out lilo, and I think it's a shame that a group of people, who disagree on IRC politics, must resort to such disgraceful tricks to try to make other people believe lilo is a bad person. Get to know him, read up on the philosophy, and understand what he's trying to do. If you still disagree, fine. He isn't going to k-line you, ban you, or quiet you for that. He will ban you or quiet you for trolling in #openprojects. And no, the people who have gone in there to express their opinions on lilo are not all trolls, but many are, and those are the ones that end up being silenced... Not k-lined.
As always, it is best to research what you're boycotting or complaining about before you start to cause a public scene. It is also important to do research before just believing the posts of a few people on a public forum.
Remember that these are people, like everybody else, and they have differing opinions. How they express them is what separates a troll from a person with an opinion. Many people left OPN peacefully, and on their own will, and have not caused any problems whatsoever. These are the people with opinions. The people who created IRC networks with the purpose of forcing a negative reputation upon lilo or the other people on the network are the trolls. These are also the people spreading such misinformation as "threatening to K-Line them from the network unless they conform with his views and contribute to his salary."
While I'm on that subject, I would also like to point out that lilo is not asking for a salary. He had asked for some donations so that he wouldn't have to live on the streets. People are telling him to shut up and get a job. Well, he has gotten a job. He is working at this, but because of past debts, contributions are helpful. Nobody has to contribute, but many people did, and it has helped him a lot. Remember that this is a community, and one is encouraged to help another, but not required. Please don't bash a person who, as even many of the trolls have admitted, has done a lot of good for open source projects.
That is all I have to say. Thank you.