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Copyright Battle Over Nothing

An Anonymous Coward writes: "In this story reported at The Independent is "one of the more curious copyright disputes of modern times." It appears that the key question is "which part of the silence was stolen." If only this was April First. This is a lawsuit suing over the sound of nothing, no sound, silence, nada, zilch, bupkiss.

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  1. LOL by Quasar1999 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now I can be in trouble too... "............"

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    1. Re:LOL by yintercept · · Score: 2, Funny

      And in the end
      the love you take
      is equal to the love you-oo make.

      Well, the Beattles should jump in here. For awhile they had the longest silence on any major recording album...but I really am not sure if you can compare the quality of the silences. I mean, a digitally mastered silence has the potential of being leap years ahead of the lower quality vinyl silences of yesterday.

  2. If a tree.... by websaber · · Score: 5, Funny

    If a tree falls in the forest..... is it liable for infringement?

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    1. Re:If a tree.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      HEAR it, you fuck.

  3. I've heard that track... by The+Chaotician · · Score: 3, Funny

    and it was the best one on the CD.
    Isn't that always the way with cover songs?

    1. Re:I've heard that track... by Eythian · · Score: 2, Funny

      and it was the best one on the CD.

      Can you please rip and and share it on Gnutella? I want to listen to it.

  4. My copyright... by AmigaAvenger · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hereby copyright the sound of a tree falling in the middle of a forest when no one is around to hear it. This is in addition to my copyright on the sound of one hand clapping. These copyrights shall be persued by the fullest extent of the law.

  5. Let us all.. by MisterBlister · · Score: 5, Funny
    Let us all bow our heads for a minute of silence while we mourn the passing of common sense in the legal system.

    Ok...
    ...

    Done? Ok suckers, that will be $1000 per person for infringing upon the silence copyright made payable to FU Attorneys At Law. Pay up or else!!

  6. How.. by Renraku · · Score: 5, Funny

    How can the absence of something be called a copyright violation? Unless you're looking at the quantum superstate of blank media (which would mean that anything that can exist on blank media would exist on it until it was observed), which would further enrage the RIAA and push them to sue people who produce blank media.

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    1. Re:How.. by quintessent · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, maybe that's why the RIAA gets a payment whenever I purchase a blank CD. And I thought it was to pay for the music which they were planning for me to put on it after I bought it.

    2. Re:How.. by rat7307 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shhhhhhhh...............


      Don't give them any ideas....


      THEY ARE WATCHING...

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  7. I'll right your copy! by delta407 · · Score: 5, Funny
    #include <stdio.h>

    void main()
    {
    short silence[60*44100];
    memset(silence, 0, sizeof(silence));

    FILE * out = fopen("silence.pcm", "w");
    fwrite(silence, sizeof(short), 60*44100, out);
    fclose(out);
    }

    Music piracy at its worst, I tell ya.

  8. okay... my turn!!! by erroneus · · Score: 5, Funny

    As long as people are throwing out one-liners:

    "You don't have the right to remain silent. Anything you don't say will be used against you in a court of law..."

  9. The avant garde by ObviousGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

    What gets me is that these people can actually claim fans. If you go to a concert, do they sit quietly onstage miming shushing to the audience?

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  10. My only comment is this: by gvonk · · Score: 5, Funny



    © gvonk, 2002, all rights reserved, etc.

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    1. Re:My only comment is this: by eaolson · · Score: 2, Funny
      Are you copyrighting whitespace?

      He was probably just copyrighting the lyrics.

  11. MP3's? by jagilbertvt · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where are the mp3 versions of the 2 tracks in question? Perhaps then we can judge who's in the wrong here more acurately.

    1. Re:MP3's? by Ralph+Bearpark · · Score: 5, Funny

      Watch out, the record company are probably distributing dummy mp3s with the first 15secs repeated over and over ...

      Regards, Ralph.

  12. I love that song... by BlueFall · · Score: 5, Funny

    The song (both versions) is one of my favorites. It's so catchy. I've had it stuck in my head whenever I didn't have another song stuck in my head... ;-)

  13. Bad title! by delta407 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Copyright Battle Over Nothing

    Wrong.

    Silence isn't nothing, at least not on a CD. The infringing track is sixty seconds of silence, which is not sixty seconds of zeros. (Which would still be something, mind you.) In any case, the track in the suit is 5,292,000 '0111111111111111's on the CD. (60 seconds, 44100 samples per second, 2 channels, at "zero", but recall digital audio is signed so that's 2^15-1 = 32767.)

    Even if one of the two decided to use 32768 instead, the prosecution could argue there was a DC bias...

  14. Prior Art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I hereby copyright the sound of a tree falling in the middle of a forest when no one is around to hear it.

    Dear AmigaAvenger:

    I produced this before you did. Unfortunately I have to witnesses for obvious reasons, but I have a recording--which, by the way, and not obvious to the casual listener, is NOT a copy of John Cage's 4'33" or any track from Mike Batt's album. You are hereby requested to turn over all rights licence fees to me and cease and desist any new licensing of said work and claims to rights of said work.

  15. The most ludicrous Copyright ever! "Have Fun!" by puto · · Score: 2, Funny

    As a former employee of Pat Obriens in the French Quarter in New Orleans I can let you in on a little known fact.

    They have the phrase "Have Fun!" copyrighted. So I guess you cant say it or have fun without dire results.

    If you check their web-page out, look at the very bottome and you can read it in the blurb there.

    http://www.patobriens.com/havefun.html

    Just thought of something, if we slashdot their box, it is almost the equivalent of what their booz has been doing to people for years.

    Puto

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  16. Re:John Cage's 4'33" by thelinuxking · · Score: 4, Funny

    No wonder I never understood the piece...I listen to it using a pair of those noise canceling headphones...

  17. FreeBSD in court trouble? by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    It seems like the new FreeBSD Logo is violating a copyright also.

  18. Re:Copyright the sine wav of silence :-) by rnturn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ah... but at what frequency will you be generating this zero-amplitude silence? My patent is pending on `0 * sin (2 * pi * 256)' (middle C) so watch out.

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  19. Prior? by sudotcsh · · Score: 2, Funny

    What about my "Best of Marcel Marceau" LP, copyright 1955?

  20. Blank media tax by G-funk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey, all you canucks out there - no need to pay blank media taxes on cd-rs... they're not blank. they're simply recordings of a cover of 4'33" :-)

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    1. Re:Blank media tax by Grax · · Score: 5, Funny

      How come they're 74 minutes long then?

      It is the dance mix.

  21. Re:but I've already patented it by Virtex · · Score: 3, Funny

    But, but, but ...

    I've patented the concepts of making silence through (1) not making any noise, (2) failing to record said noise, and (3) a catch-all that covers anything that might not be covered by the first two.

    I asked my lawyer if I had missed anything, and when he paused for a second, I had him arrested for violating my patent. Maybe that was a bad idea?

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  22. And in related news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    NASA and their team of astronauts are being sued for contributary copyright infringement; In space, no one can hear you scream.

  23. Shoot! Now I can't work anymore! by curtoid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now what am I supposed to do during the marketing presentation when I am usually SSS (Skeptically Sitting Silently).....

  24. Phillp Glass by Monkelectric · · Score: 4, Funny
    Sued me over my math homework.

    Oh wait this is Slashdot, no one will get that.

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  25. Nixon by adam613 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Former US President Richard Nixon can claim prior art on this. He recorded 18 and a half minutes of silence back in the 70s.

  26. Miranda? by gerardrj · · Score: 3, Funny
    Hmmm...
    you have the right to remain silent, just not the copyright to remain silent. Anything you don't say may be used in a DMCA case against you.

    Double Hmmm... "We have ways of making you talk". It may be decision time: testify against yourself, or face the rats nest that is a copyright/DMCA case against you. Either way you're screwed.

    :)

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  27. Everyone knows... by Savatte · · Score: 2, Funny

    The sound of one hand clapping is being smacked in the face.

  28. Be careful by anpe · · Score: 3, Funny

    That means that when we aren't making noise we're violating the DMCA !
    La la la la la la shok shok la la

  29. The Spirit of Radio by stereoroid · · Score: 3, Funny

    "For the words of the profits
    are written on the studio walls,
    and concert halls,
    echo with the sounds of salesmen."
    - from "The Spirit of Radio" by Rush, 1980

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  30. Re:Err, dudes.... by Party+Remover · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Nathaniel, I've just received a subpeona!"

    "Oh, jolly good, Robert! I was hoping most fervently that you'd receive it today!"

    "Why, yes, I have! I must compliment you on your undulled wit, old chap! A lawsuit! What a hoot!"

    "You're too kind!"

  31. My response in protest... by RoadWarriorX · · Score: 2, Funny




  32. Death blow for US justice system! by Fefe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Looks like we have to re-think that "You have the right to remain silent" thing...

  33. Must comment by edp · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wasn't going to enter a response to this article, but I was afraid of receiving a cease and desist order if I remained silent.

  34. Prior art by fazzumar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Think of all the prior art for silence sitting on the shelves of your local music store in the form of blank audio casettes!