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Tonight Slashback brings you updates (below) on the video card ATi isn't really putting out, home-brewed electronic multi-room temperature control, NPR's linking policy, and more. Enjoy!

Welcome to the Fantasy Hardware League Regarding our post on the allegedly upcoming Radeon 8500 MAXX, reader eyelove yu writes: "This pic is fake, as many people have suspected. HardOCP.com (on front page) quoted Rubeena Hussein of ATi as saying,'"We have no current intentions of making this or similar boards.'"

Soon we will be able to assemble an entire system created in Photoshop. Yay.

Or you could roll down the windows ... vt@home writes: "As a followup to the earlier story, here is a system that not only allows to monitor the temperature throughout the house and draw nice charts, but also does already have computer controlled vents and even allows to control the A/C unit. Basically, this is a do-it-yourself zoning system, for under $500. Of course, the source is GPLd ;)"

Next week, the sidewalks will practically be free for public use. juanfe writes: "It's not like they really had any power to enforce their previous one, but NPR modified their Terms of Use on June 27. Now, linkers do not have to submit a form asking for permission, but NPR "reserve the right to withdraw permission for any link". More commentary from others.

Nothing like hundreds of angry bloggers threatening to withhold membership contributions to their local station."

Raising a stink to the power of 10. Snarfangel writes "After seeing Yet Another Slashdot Article extolling the virtues of meretricious metrification ("Isn't it Time for Metric Time?"), I decided to fight back the only way I know how -- by subjecting an innocent website to the Slashdot effect: This site goes into great detail about the importance of being Ernst (or at least Max Karl Ernst Ludwig) Planck, especially his system of units that only depend the fundamental constants of the universe -- the speed of light, the gravitational constant, the Planck constant, and the charge of the electron. With appropriate scaling, you get a unified measurement system that is not only more logical than Le Systeme International d'Unites, but is also much better for calculating physics problems in your head.

After all, if we are going to go to all the effort to change our measurement system, why not use that same effort and get the system *right* the first time?"

On a different note, Colin LeMahieu writes "I noticed your post on metric time. I stumbled across this while looking for various computer timing related articles and found it pretty interesting. This might not be as popular as metric time, but it seems to make more sense. The whole system is based on time as a fraction of a day; it even has the scientific measurment on how to re-produce the time, as with any scientific measurement."

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  1. Re:Dual ATI board by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    You don't understand how it works. The way it would work (based on ATi's MAXX technology) is one chip would draw one frame, and the other chip the next frame, and so on. The reason they scrapped the technology was (if I heard correctly) that it wouldn't work correctly on NT Kernel based OS'es, due to some kind of limitation on hardware communication or something. It's similar to 3dfx's SLI technology they used on their Voodoo2 and Voodoo5 lines of cards, which effectively doubled the power just by adding another chip.

  2. Re:"Timing" of screws by CharlieG · · Score: 5, Informative

    That would be called "Timing" of the screws. In a lot of old finely made mechanical items (watches, guns) the screws ARE timed - the slots ALL line up exactly the same way. it was a craftsmanship thing

    That said, with todays CNC milling machines that have what is called "Rigid tapping", or if the threads are "thread milled", it happens all the time, the tap goes in the same way each time, so if the screws are all made the same, all the screw heads come out the same. Looks strange, but it does happen

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  3. Re:don't you mean decimal time? by alienmole · · Score: 4, Informative
    doesn't the word metric come from meter? or is it the other way around?

    Neither, really, although it's true that the "metric system" is based on the meter as one of the fundamental units of measure. But both words ultimately derive from the Greek word "metron", meaning "measure". That's why the little dials that measure your electricity usage, for example, are also called "meters", and why software developers use the term "metrics" to refer to measurable aspects of their systems.

    surely the correct term is 'decimal' and not 'metric' time.

    "Metric time" is presumably meant to imply that the system of time in question would properly belong to the metric system of units. But you'd be correct in assuming there's nothing intrinsic about "metric time" that relates it to the "metric system", other than that both systems rely heavily on powers of 10.

  4. here is the link... by edrugtrader · · Score: 2, Informative

    here is the link to the picture of the fake radeon

    FAKE!

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  5. Re:I always wondered about units of measurement... by LinuxCumShot · · Score: 2, Informative
    nice try but even wronger...

    history of the meter

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  6. Fake Card Story May have Affected ATI Share Price by frank249 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I wonder why someone went to all the trouble to fake the photo and leak phony specs? It could have been part of a plan to manipulate ATI's stock price. Look at the hourly stock price chart for ATI today. ATI (ATY on TSE) opened this morning at $10.70cdn and by 10:30 am was down slightly to $10.60. The story came out on slashdot at 10:30 and within an hour had risen to its daily high of $11.08 but then closed down .23 at $10.52. Not a big spike but someone could have made money on this.

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  7. Re:It was photoshop.....or was it? by ceejayoz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Affiliate link? lol... nice try.

  8. Metric History by os2fan · · Score: 3, Informative

    The metric system was designed using the leading metrological thinking of the day, with decimals applied. It was not the only system around, there were more logical ones available. The two systems I show in parallel.

    ANGLE
    m circle -> 400 degrees -> 100 min -> 100 s
    g circle -> 360 degrees -> 60 min -> 60 s

    LENGTH.
    The nautical and itenery length are the same, based on a minute arc on some circle of the earth.

    m minute = kilometre = 1000 metres
    g minute = mile = 1000 fathoms -> 6 feet -> 12 in & c An ell of 20 inches makes 1 mph = 1 ell/s

    The km is too short, this from selecting the smallest value and underestimating it. The mile of 6080 ft Imperial, is closer to the mean.

    AREA
    For the sale of land, a unit of area is named. Normally square measure is used.

    m are = 100 sq metres. 1 sq km = 10,000 are
    g acre = 1000 sq fathoms. 1 sq mile = 1,000 acres.

    The unit suggested here is a comma-unit: ie 12,345 sq fathoms = 12.345 acres.

    VOLUME
    Cubic measure is used to express volume measured by linear extent.

    m stere = 1 cu m
    g acre-foot = 1000 tuns = 36000 cu ft
    tun = 36 cu ft

    CAPACITY
    For volume measured by bulk comparison (eg pouring), a more accurate system is used.

    m litre = 0.001 cu m
    g tun = 240 gallons, etc

    WEIGHT (Mass)
    For this, the basic weight is intended to be a capacity of water, under some conditions. In practice, a prototype is manufactured to fall in the range.

    m 1 litre = 1 kg [This had a name "grave"]
    g 1 tun = 2400 lb of 16 oz etc... = 0.972 lb

    FINE WEIGHTS
    This is a combination of the apothecaries, troy and other small measures. The pound is divided into 15 troy oz, and then according to the troy and apothecaries ounces respectively.

    Standards were originally defined in terms of the jewellers weights, as jewellers often crafted the system. A grain is 1/480 of the matching ounce. The avoirdepoise oz is 437.5 troy grains, but 480 grains avoirdepoise.

    The weights ran in France in the first stage of conversion is the 'system usualle', feet and pounds defined on round metric. The fine-weight usage was converted to metric. By the time that they came to drop the transitional system, the idea of dual weights had largely disappeared, and the fineweight was extended up to myriagrams, quintals, and tonnes.

    MONEY
    The value of a weight of silver or gold. Bullion-money has since gone out of fashion, but the franc was originally 0.1 grams of silver. cf pound, ounce, talent, mina, shekel, dram [weights that became money] vs mark, dram [money that became weight]

    Converting money is the first step of introducing decimal, etc. In australia, currency decimalisation (1966) preceded metrification (1975).

    Metric added some ambitious reforms that never took root, and were mercifully tapped on the head.

    TIME
    Division of the day, decimally. Unfortunately, the time units were already constant in Europe.

    CALANDER
    Grouping of days into weeks and years. This was a very localised affair. Attack on the calendar was seen, and is seen as, an attack on the core principles of society. Making a system dependant on the calender is now recognised as a folly.

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