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Spielberg Denied Crack at Star Wars

loonix_gangsta writes "The BBC is running a blurb on the disclosure of Star Wars helmsman George Lucas not allowing Spielberg to direct one of the Star Wars movies. According to Ananova Steven had actually begged George for the job."

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  1. At least Spielberg knows how to direct actors by Ma$$acre · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lucas has a pretty impressive vision and knows eye-candy better than about any director out there. But he's a terrible writer and he doesn't know how to direct actors. He has some top notch talent in his movies and unless they break free of the crap dialogue and directive vision of what that dialogue should sound like, they are screwed. I'd give anything to have Spielberg direct with Lucas doing his thing in the background... maybe we'd have an Indiana Jones style romp for E3.

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    1. Re:At least Spielberg knows how to direct actors by sydlexic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'd give anything to have Spielberg direct with Lucas doing his thing in the background

      Which is why you won't. Lucas must have clued in by now that he sucks at the whole writer/director gig. Spielberg would almost certainly produce a much better movie. Lucas knows this. If the next one were markedly better than the last two then it would cement Lucas' suck-assedness for all time. So Lucas figures he's better off doing it himself and hoping to get lucky. I mean, it's not like he could do any worse, right?

  2. Amen! by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Liam Neeson is proof positive. He was dynamite in Schindler's List (directed by Spielberg), and wooden as a pirate's leg in Episode 1 (directed by Lucas). Lucas sucks when he has to deal with people, which is probably why he relies so much on techno whiz.

  3. He used other directors in the 80s by ianmalcm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So if this is "Georges baby" then why did he use different directors and writers for Empire and Return of the Jedi? I propose, to get Starwars back on track, for George to hire the original people that helped him on the trilogy.... Lawrence Kasdan, Gary Kurtz, and Irvin Kirshner. Bring in the K's and all will be well. The Starwars TripleK Petition. We fans deserve the best movie of all time with Episode 3. SOMETHING's gotta break Titanics records.

  4. Pick a side.... by Darth_brooks · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Time to burn off some karma.

    1). Spielberg isn't the savior.

    2). No one is the savior for star wars

    Now, this isn't to say the second trilogy sucks. I thought ep. 1 was bearable, there were some things to change, mostly in the the promotion (c'mon, seeing darth maul break out the second blade of the lightsabre would've been way cooler if you didn't know about it ahead of time. It might have been hard to keep from "knowing" about, but we didn't need to see it in the first trailer.), and certainly there were some major issues with dialouge. Lucas didn't have any recent experience in film. He didn't know, or didn't have anyone telling him he was making bad choices. Hell in '98 we were drooling over spoilers that in retrospect killed the film. ("Full CG characters! wow! I don't know how they'll be implimented but that's cool!")

    Ep. 2 made progress. But from the percieved failure of Ep. 1, no one was willing to give the movie any kind of a shake. When 1 was released, there was a devoted throng of geeks who thought they'd be "smarts" and spend weeks on end spouting off about just how bad the film was. That same contingent multiplied and said 2 marked the death of a franchiese, lucas has lost his touch, and it's all a huge mistake.

    Sorry, but nothing will please the die hard of vocal Star Wars "fans" who want nothing more than to make a name by voicing their opinions. What's really sad, and what no SW geek will admit to, is the similarity between SW geeks and Internet WWE wrestling fans. After every RAW or Smackdown! there is a hard core group of fans that nit pick every blown move, every plot hole, every bit of less than logical storytelling. The result is that the WWE has begun catering to the more vocal internet fans more in their storylines. Check the ratings, the majority of the fans aren't buying it. The WWE has tried boosting ratings with signings of bigger name talent, and shocking storyline moves, all to no avail. Only now they've alienated both the smarts and the live / casual fans.

    Same with Star Wars. Lucas could sign Spielberg up to direct episode 3, bring back harrison ford, sign Jet Li as the villan, and promise full frontal nude shots of Natalie Portman, but why? It probaly won't change much. The dialouge may get better with Spielberg at the helm, the story might get a little stronger and better paced, but it's not going to shut the "fans" up. The same contingent will just insert "Spielberg" into their rants instead of lucas. Hell, Francis Ford Coppola is close with lucas, let's throw him in the mix.

    No matter who directs, you'll still get the same dearth of comparisions to each directors poor efforts. "Episode 3 sucked as bad as 'howard the duck' or 'always' or 'the godfather 3'" Come to think of it, Spielberg tanked out with a recent Sci Fi outing (or has 'AI' been forgotten that quickly?) and Coppola makes some pretty foul casting choices. (Can you say daddy's little girl? I thought so.) So long as the comic book guy wanna-be's have ammunition, they'll use it.

    Face it. The 'net will never be happy with star wars. It was destined to be. But the bottom line doesn't lie, Star Wars is still the biggest franchiese movie out there. It's still got a strong devoted following. (I'll buy into the matrix when I see how well the film stands up to an audience that has seen bullet time and slow-mo action in every action movie made in the last two years.)

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    1. Re:Pick a side.... by Flamerule · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Long post... if I'm reading you correctly, the gist of it seems to be that the hardcore Star Wars fans nitpicked Episode II to death, in anger over their perceived failure of Episode I, and that now nothing can save the prequel trilogy from their slings and arrows.
      Face it. The 'net will never be happy with star wars. It was destined to be.

      Let's get this straight: it wasn't destined to be. Let's look at the the first episode of the Lord of the Rings movie Trilogy: an insanely great success for Peter Jackson -- critically, commercially, and for the majority of fans. The most devoted Tolkien purists and nitpickers did what they could to sabotage the film, but it wasn't enough. Take a spin over to the twin Tolkien newsgroups, rec.arts.books.tolkien and alt.fan.tolkien, and you'll find a fair number of fans so blinded in their fanatacism, they were unable to accept the movie as the adaptation it was, and had to be, instead of some 12-hour visual recitation of the novel.

      But these fans couldn't make a dent in Fellowship's success -- because it was a great movie. Peter Jackson proved that it is possible to live up to all but the very extremest of expectations, and hopefully The Two Towers will succeed just as spectacularly. Lesson: if your movie kicks ass, people won't hate it, loudly, to everyone they meet. Duh.

      So long as the comic book guy wanna-be's have ammunition, they'll use it.

      In this case, everyone has ammunition, and everyone should use it to voice their displeasure. George Lucas tanked with Episode I -- it was a shitty movie, just in general, and when compared to the original trilogy. When Episode II turned out be crap too, just not quite as crappy as the first one, the fans, rightfully, revolted. Lucas had 2 fucking chances, and he blew them both. It's not a case of nitpicking here... Lucas deserves to be called out, by everyone, for the poorly-acted, overdone, not-very-entertaining films he's spewed out for us. The public, hell, the Star Wars franchise, deserves better.

      Episode III is everyone's last chance for a good Star Wars movie: since Lucas is incapable of producing a movie anyone actually wants to watch, it might be better for everyone if someone else got a chance at directing it.

  5. What's sad is, Lucas just really is'nt a director by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At least not anymore. A quick scan of his resume shows outside of Star Wars, Lucas has'nt been at the helm of a film in the directors chair since 1973's American Graffiti.

    29 years, with the execption of a couple trys at Star Wars can leave you a little rusty. (And in my opinion, it shows). Thats not to say that Lucas is'nt an excellent craftsman, and his contributions to the field of special effects, amoung countless other acheivements should not be discounted.

    But, just because your really good and building violins does'nt mean you're the best choice to conduct a symphony.

    Spielberg on the other hand has had a lot more practice wearing a directors hat (despite some unfortunate misses). His work with the late Kubric has rubbed off on him, which shows in the spactacular visual style in A.I. and the more recent minority report (albeit with some disapointing storylines).

    Personally I think Spielberg's experience as a director would provide the perfect compliment to the imagination and storytelling that Lucas can put out when he's at his best. It's really a shame this won't happen.

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  6. Re:Too cuddily by squarooticus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem I always hear from people is that they think the beings at the end are aliens. It didn't even occur to them that those "aliens" were the evolved descendents of the original mechas.

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