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CmdrTaco
on from the man-of-steal-vs-the-dark-knight dept.
ReadParse writes "The Sacramento Bee is running an AP story about Warner Bros' plans to produce a Batman vs. Superman movie. It's kind of hard to imagine anybody but Christopher Reeve as the Man of Steel -- somebody check Michael Keaton's schedule."
Who's the baddie?
by
atcurtis
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· Score: 2, Interesting
Who is going to be the baddie? The defender of the meek (Batman) or the defender of Humanity (Superman)?
Or are they thinking of making some supervillan which the both team uo to fight?
"Arrghhh, Kryptonite! Take over and save the world, Batman!"
Well - it's been a few years since they had used the tech (was it used in Gladiator and earlier in the last Bruce Lee film?), but it isn't so far fetched that they use a body/stunt double for Mr Reeves and put his face over the double's body.
Still - rumors are rumors.... I'm still waiting for the film adaptation of Red Dwarf with Patrick Stewart as the baddie.
-- -- The universe began. Life started on a billion worlds...
-- Except on one where stupidity was there first.
Matt Damon, not Michael Keaton
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tbmaddux
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· Score: 5, Interesting
It's kind of hard to imagine anybody but Christopher Reeve as the Man of Steel -- somebody check Michael Keaton's schedule.
According tp the IMDB's "Celebrity News" the director wants Matt Damon. Here's the relevant text:
Matt Damon may get his choice of playing either Batman or Superman in a new movie that brings the comic book superheroes together - as enemies. Moviemaker Wolfgang Petersen has signed up to direct Batman vs. Superman for a 2004 release, and he wants Damon among his stars. The director says, "Matt's an interesting action man and a hell of an actor." The Perfect Storm director jumped at the chance to make the new movie because he likes the idea of pitting two heroes against each other. He says, "It's a clash of the titans. They play off each other so perfectly - Superman is clear, bright, all that is noble and good, and Batman represents the dark, obsessive and vengeful side. It'll make for great drama."
-- Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?
Re:How is this a fight? (Hint: it was, Batman won)
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cHALiTO
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Heh, i think i remember once seeing an episode when Superman looks at batman with his x-ray vision, and sees he's Bruce Wayne, and tells him something like "go home bruce" (trying to impress bruce by letting him know that he knew who he was, etc), and later, when superman gets to his appartment and 'changes' into Clark kent, he looks out the window and sees batman on the roof across the street, looking with a pair of binoculars and a smile that said "yeah, i bet now you feel *really* dumb".
Superman is a sissy.. never kills anyone, and when he does, he makes a drama out of it. And besides, it's too much like Captain America.. he's too.. american:) (don't get mad at me.. it's just that i get tired sometimes of watching the us flag on the tv screen like it was a desktop wallpaper or something..)
Batman just plain rocks.. and Alan Grant was did the best scripts for it.
-- "Luck is my middle name," said Rincewind, indistinctly. "Mind you, my first name is Bad." -- Terry Pratchett
There is only one way this movie could work...
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Anonvmous+Coward
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· Score: 2, Interesting
Sadly, Hollywood's taste is so bad that I think this flick will simply be a 'Who would win?' type of movie. Unfortunately, that's not an interesting subject for reasons that people have already posted here.
Instead, they should develop the movie that gives you deeper insights into each character, taking the plot away from the 'whos gonna win?' direction. To put it another way: If you find out that Batman wins, it shouldn't ruin the movie for you.
With that said, why not explore what could possibly make these two guys fight? What kind of ethical questions would that provide for Superman? What could possibly happen to make the Man of Steel defeat somebody who, like himself, has made his life's work to protect people?
How would Batman feel about having the opportunity to deal the death blow to Superman? In light of how his parents were killed, how could he bring himself to destroy somebody that undoubtedly would have prevented it if he could?
They both had their parents killed tragically, they have that pain in common. Could they come to a resolution?
In any case, with questions like these (or hopefully more interesting ones, I am not a writer heh) the movie could actually be rather meaningful. If the movie tries to be like Spiderman and is written to show of using the latest effects to have two 'super humans' battle it out, then there's no way it's going to but much more than a jock flick.
I hope somebody puts some interesting thought into this. Both characters are deep enough that they could tell a fascinating story. This really is the type of movie that should be animated. It's hard to take a guy seriously when he's wearing bright blue underwear.
Re:A serious reply: Would a superheroine movie sel
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VivianC
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· Score: 3, Interesting
I guess we'll have to wait and see how the new POWER PUFF GIRLS movie does....
Re:Someone tell me how Batman could beat Superman?
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markmoss
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· Score: 4, Interesting
Wouldn't Superman crush Batman in about a milli-second?
That's always been a problem for the Superman scriptwriters - how to make _anything_ be a challenge, since over the years since the comic strip started (around 1930?) they've attributed so much strength and so many abilities to him that anything short of a galaxy-sized black hole ought to be easy. He's the irresistible force and the immovable object. And if he screws up and lets something bad happen without being there to stop it, he can just fly faster than light to reverse time. You'd think his only real problem would be keeping his personal organizer up to date (08:45 save Lois from bad guy 1, 08:50 save the world from bad guy 2, 08:55 pick up a mugger from the alley and drop him off at Sing Sing, 09:00 put in an appearance in civies as the mild mannered reporter who missed all the fun again, 09:05 save Lois again...)
So how is Batman, who is just a human being with really nice toys, going to face Superman? Yawn, kryptonite again. Obviously that stuff deadens his brain long before he comes close enough to lose his strength, otherwise he'd have learned not to fall for it every time. And it's easy to find green kryptonite on earth, even for convicts on the run from the law, let alone billionaires.
IIRC, someone once calculated from the quantities of kryptonite that have turned up on Earth and the inverse square law, that Krypton must have been so massive it collapsed into a black hole.
back to superheroes and audiences for a moment...
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dpilot
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· Score: 3, Interesting
I really liked "Unbreakable" as a truly unusual treatment of the whole superhero thing. I guess most people didn't, because it didn't do that well at the box office.
In the same vein, I couldn't imagine Michael Keaton as Batman. He did well enough there, but his portrayal as Bruce Wayne was downright terrific. First time the character ever seemed believable, comic, TV, cartoon, whatever.
-- The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
Matt Damon: I'm Not Kidding
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Sandman1971
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· Score: 2, Interesting
What's scary is that Coming Attractions states that the director is hoping to get Matt Damon on board (but doesn't mention for which role). I can't see Damon doing either Batman or Superman. Maybe he can play Jimmy Olsen:P
I would love to see Keaton under the cowl again. As for Superman, there's not a hell of alot of choices out there. Dean Cain did a half-decent job in the Lois & Clarke shot, but I don't think he could carry the movie.
Who would you like to see play The Dark Knight and The Man Of Steel?
-- It's better to burn out than to fade away
You know who'd be perfect for the Superman role?
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Rogerborg
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· Score: 3, Interesting
Think about it. He's handsome in a boy-next-door Young Republican poster kind of way, he has the correct wholesome, too good to be true, "I'll save-the-day" associations in the public consciousness, he can actually act, he has geek appeal, and he looks good in a skin tight unitard.
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Who is going to be the baddie? The defender of the meek (Batman) or the defender of Humanity (Superman)?
Or are they thinking of making some supervillan which the both team uo to fight?
"Arrghhh, Kryptonite! Take over and save the world, Batman!"
Well - it's been a few years since they had used the tech (was it used in Gladiator and earlier in the last Bruce Lee film?), but it isn't so far fetched that they use a body/stunt double for Mr Reeves and put his face over the double's body.
Still - rumors are rumors.... I'm still waiting for the film adaptation of Red Dwarf with Patrick Stewart as the baddie.
-- The universe began. Life started on a billion worlds...
-- Except on one where stupidity was there first.
Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?
Heh, i think i remember once seeing an episode when Superman looks at batman with his x-ray vision, and sees he's Bruce Wayne, and tells him something like "go home bruce" (trying to impress bruce by letting him know that he knew who he was, etc), and later, when superman gets to his appartment and 'changes' into Clark kent, he looks out the window and sees batman on the roof across the street, looking with a pair of binoculars and a smile that said "yeah, i bet now you feel *really* dumb".
:) (don't get mad at me.. it's just that i get tired sometimes of watching the us flag on the tv screen like it was a desktop wallpaper or something..)
Superman is a sissy.. never kills anyone, and when he does, he makes a drama out of it. And besides, it's too much like Captain America.. he's too.. american
Batman just plain rocks.. and Alan Grant was did the best scripts for it.
"Luck is my middle name," said Rincewind, indistinctly. "Mind you, my first name is Bad." -- Terry Pratchett
Sadly, Hollywood's taste is so bad that I think this flick will simply be a 'Who would win?' type of movie. Unfortunately, that's not an interesting subject for reasons that people have already posted here.
Instead, they should develop the movie that gives you deeper insights into each character, taking the plot away from the 'whos gonna win?' direction. To put it another way: If you find out that Batman wins, it shouldn't ruin the movie for you.
With that said, why not explore what could possibly make these two guys fight? What kind of ethical questions would that provide for Superman? What could possibly happen to make the Man of Steel defeat somebody who, like himself, has made his life's work to protect people?
How would Batman feel about having the opportunity to deal the death blow to Superman? In light of how his parents were killed, how could he bring himself to destroy somebody that undoubtedly would have prevented it if he could?
They both had their parents killed tragically, they have that pain in common. Could they come to a resolution?
In any case, with questions like these (or hopefully more interesting ones, I am not a writer heh) the movie could actually be rather meaningful. If the movie tries to be like Spiderman and is written to show of using the latest effects to have two 'super humans' battle it out, then there's no way it's going to but much more than a jock flick.
I hope somebody puts some interesting thought into this. Both characters are deep enough that they could tell a fascinating story. This really is the type of movie that should be animated. It's hard to take a guy seriously when he's wearing bright blue underwear.
I guess we'll have to wait and see how the new POWER PUFF GIRLS movie does....
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Wouldn't Superman crush Batman in about a milli-second?
That's always been a problem for the Superman scriptwriters - how to make _anything_ be a challenge, since over the years since the comic strip started (around 1930?) they've attributed so much strength and so many abilities to him that anything short of a galaxy-sized black hole ought to be easy. He's the irresistible force and the immovable object. And if he screws up and lets something bad happen without being there to stop it, he can just fly faster than light to reverse time. You'd think his only real problem would be keeping his personal organizer up to date (08:45 save Lois from bad guy 1, 08:50 save the world from bad guy 2, 08:55 pick up a mugger from the alley and drop him off at Sing Sing, 09:00 put in an appearance in civies as the mild mannered reporter who missed all the fun again, 09:05 save Lois again...)
So how is Batman, who is just a human being with really nice toys, going to face Superman? Yawn, kryptonite again. Obviously that stuff deadens his brain long before he comes close enough to lose his strength, otherwise he'd have learned not to fall for it every time. And it's easy to find green kryptonite on earth, even for convicts on the run from the law, let alone billionaires.
IIRC, someone once calculated from the quantities of kryptonite that have turned up on Earth and the inverse square law, that Krypton must have been so massive it collapsed into a black hole.
I really liked "Unbreakable" as a truly unusual treatment of the whole superhero thing. I guess most people didn't, because it didn't do that well at the box office.
In the same vein, I couldn't imagine Michael Keaton as Batman. He did well enough there, but his portrayal as Bruce Wayne was downright terrific. First time the character ever seemed believable, comic, TV, cartoon, whatever.
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
What's scary is that Coming Attractions states that the director is hoping to get Matt Damon on board (but doesn't mention for which role). I can't see Damon doing either Batman or Superman. Maybe he can play Jimmy Olsen :P
I would love to see Keaton under the cowl again. As for Superman, there's not a hell of alot of choices out there. Dean Cain did a half-decent job in the Lois & Clarke shot, but I don't think he could carry the movie.
Who would you like to see play The Dark Knight and The Man Of Steel?
It's better to burn out than to fade away
Our own dear Wil Wheaton.
Think about it. He's handsome in a boy-next-door Young Republican poster kind of way, he has the correct wholesome, too good to be true, "I'll save-the-day" associations in the public consciousness, he can actually act, he has geek appeal, and he looks good in a skin tight unitard.
Petition here.
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