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CmdrTaco
on from the man-of-steal-vs-the-dark-knight dept.
ReadParse writes "The Sacramento Bee is running an AP story about Warner Bros' plans to produce a Batman vs. Superman movie. It's kind of hard to imagine anybody but Christopher Reeve as the Man of Steel -- somebody check Michael Keaton's schedule."
How is this a fight?
by
XaXXon
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· Score: 1, Insightful
I'm not big into comics, but I just can't see how this is a legitimate fight.. Superman would kick Batman's ass. Up. Down. Around the block. Back around the block.
First, he can fly. That's a HUGE advantage. Second, he's really strong. Really REALLY strong. It's just not really that legit a fight. Even with kryptonite.. Superman can just stand a few miles away and evaporate Batman with his heat vision..
I just can't see it...
Re:How is this a fight?
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Cheeko
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· Score: 5, Insightful
In the original Justice League, you had all these super-human super heros and then Batman. He was like this sorta dark guy who was out for good, but also wasn't super righteous like the super-human guys. In the comic, he made sure he know everyone elses secret weekness, and was prepared to exploit it if need be. Now I haven't read all of these cause well, I haven't even seen most of them, but I've been informed by people who've read them, that in Super Man's case, Batman had a gun with kryptonite bullets or something along those lines. And also was able to figure out who Super Man's alter ego was. I also seem to recall that Batman knew were Super Man's ice cave was, but I'm a bit less certain about this bit.
Basically while Super Man is the definition of pure physical strength, Batman is the definition of pure cunning. Batman was a loner always, even when fighting for good, and as such mistrusted even his "super" friends, and was always ready to cover his own ass first if need be.
Re:How is this a fight? (Hint: it was, Batman won)
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SirSlud
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· Score: 5, Insightful
Too late.
Check out "The Dark Knight Returns", where Batman defeats Superman (using some Kryptonite, btw.)
Miller (the author) got it right; Batman is the world's greatest detective mind (nevermind one of the top martial artists in the world), and basically an all around genius.
Might might be right, but only when the dude holding the might doesn't get outsmarted, as Superman did in "The Dark Knight Returns"
Batman is the coolest superhero ever. Why? No superpowers. Brains, altheticism, and a raging case of vengance. What can be more powerful than that?
-- "Old man yells at systemd"
Re:Someone tell me how Batman could beat Superman?
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3Y3
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· Score: 5, Insightful
I guess you never actually read any of the comics then, in fact basically every time they meet Batman whips superman like a little girl. Just because super man has powers doesnt mean he wins, remember, Batman is smarter and will set up any fight to his specifications. Superman isn't the brightest of fellows ever (duh..i'll use my heatvision). Just read Batman: The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller (as well as the sequal comic to is in which batman leaves superman a bloody lump) and you should get an idea what I mean.
Thats why I think this movie will be a bad idea, it cannot cature to both the hardcore comic readers and the common public. The actual comic readers would know that Batman would most likely win (or at least kick the daylights out of superman) while the common public wont be able to get past the idea that since superman has powers and batman does not, then it will be an easy victory for superman.
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Anyone can act smart, but it takes a smart person to act stupid.
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How to Do It Right
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arfy
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· Score: 4, Insightful
This could be good.
Pray that the screenwriter (who worked on Se7en) is adapting, or at least heavily influenced by "The Dark Knight Falls" by Frank Miller.
Now that would be something worth seeing! And if you look at the director's comments in the article it's not out of the question that this is the story they may be telling...
New man of steel
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st0rmshad0w
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· Score: 5, Insightful
" It's kind of hard to imagine anybody but Christopher Reeve as the Man of Steel"
True enough, but I vote Bruce Campbell. Its all in the chin, baby.
History Lesson
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Guppy06
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· Score: 3, Insightful
"It's kind of hard to imagine anybody but Christopher Reeve as the Man of Steel"
Once upon a time nobody could see anybody but George Reeves playing Superman. A change in actors can be done successfully. Whether it will be done successfully is a whole other matter.
On the other hand, Batman has been played by a revolving door of actors since Keaton.
Re:Brains vs. Brawn
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jafac
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· Score: 5, Insightful
It certainly has a potential for good political commentary.
Batman's big beef against Superman in the Dark Knight series was that Superman was a bit too boy-scouty, a bit too flag-wavingly patriotic. Too much of a political tool. Too much Law and Order, not enough Justice. Batman was perceived to have "crossed the line" and Superman was sent to reign him in.
In this post 9/11 PATRIOT Act Globalization Corporate Facism Goth/geek-profiling-from-Columbine-aftermath world (heh, I beat Jon Katz to the punch with THAT one) - there's EXCELLENT fodder for political commentary. Too bad the spineless wussies will probably shelve that idea.
-- These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
A serious reply: Would a superheroine movie sell?
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GuyMannDude
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· Score: 3, Insightful
Titilation aside, I wonder if the time is approaching that mainstream America is ready for a superheroine movie that isn't a joke or B-movie trash. The popularity of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon seems to indicate the American audiences may be willing to accept women as competent, powerful fighters. But I wonder if that acceptance wasn't because the whole movie was supposed to be a fantasy (with the flying and all). What do slashdotters think about the popularity of a serious big-budget Hollywood superheronie movie? You think people would go to see it?
Not to take away from ReadParse, but news about this movie has been available at Coming Soon for several weeks. Maybe the boys over there have more news worth duplicating...
Now for an on topic comment: haven't we had enough comic book hero movies for one life time? The answer seems to be no, as it was first Superman, then Batman, and now Spider-Man who have repeatedly broken box office records every time a new one is released.
Now the bad news: we all have to wait two years for the movie to develop. So why is it such big news now?
Slashdot Mirror
I'm not big into comics, but I just can't see how this is a legitimate fight.. Superman would kick Batman's ass. Up. Down. Around the block. Back around the block.
First, he can fly. That's a HUGE advantage. Second, he's really strong. Really REALLY strong. It's just not really that legit a fight. Even with kryptonite.. Superman can just stand a few miles away and evaporate Batman with his heat vision..
I just can't see it...
Too late.
Check out "The Dark Knight Returns", where Batman defeats Superman (using some Kryptonite, btw.)
Miller (the author) got it right; Batman is the world's greatest detective mind (nevermind one of the top martial artists in the world), and basically an all around genius.
Might might be right, but only when the dude holding the might doesn't get outsmarted, as Superman did in "The Dark Knight Returns"
Batman is the coolest superhero ever. Why? No superpowers. Brains, altheticism, and a raging case of vengance. What can be more powerful than that?
"Old man yells at systemd"
I guess you never actually read any of the comics then, in fact basically every time they meet Batman whips superman like a little girl. Just because super man has powers doesnt mean he wins, remember, Batman is smarter and will set up any fight to his specifications. Superman isn't the brightest of fellows ever (duh..i'll use my heatvision). Just read Batman: The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller (as well as the sequal comic to is in which batman leaves superman a bloody lump) and you should get an idea what I mean.
Thats why I think this movie will be a bad idea, it cannot cature to both the hardcore comic readers and the common public. The actual comic readers would know that Batman would most likely win (or at least kick the daylights out of superman) while the common public wont be able to get past the idea that since superman has powers and batman does not, then it will be an easy victory for superman.
---- Anyone can act smart, but it takes a smart person to act stupid. ----
This could be good.
Pray that the screenwriter (who worked on Se7en) is adapting, or at least heavily influenced by "The Dark Knight Falls" by Frank Miller.
Now that would be something worth seeing! And if you look at the director's comments in the article it's not out of the question that this is the story they may be telling...
" It's kind of hard to imagine anybody but Christopher Reeve as the Man of Steel"
True enough, but I vote Bruce Campbell. Its all in the chin, baby.
"It's kind of hard to imagine anybody but Christopher Reeve as the Man of Steel"
Once upon a time nobody could see anybody but George Reeves playing Superman. A change in actors can be done successfully. Whether it will be done successfully is a whole other matter.
On the other hand, Batman has been played by a revolving door of actors since Keaton.
It certainly has a potential for good political commentary.
Batman's big beef against Superman in the Dark Knight series was that Superman was a bit too boy-scouty, a bit too flag-wavingly patriotic. Too much of a political tool. Too much Law and Order, not enough Justice. Batman was perceived to have "crossed the line" and Superman was sent to reign him in.
In this post 9/11 PATRIOT Act Globalization Corporate Facism Goth/geek-profiling-from-Columbine-aftermath world (heh, I beat Jon Katz to the punch with THAT one) - there's EXCELLENT fodder for political commentary. Too bad the spineless wussies will probably shelve that idea.
These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
Titilation aside, I wonder if the time is approaching that mainstream America is ready for a superheroine movie that isn't a joke or B-movie trash. The popularity of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon seems to indicate the American audiences may be willing to accept women as competent, powerful fighters. But I wonder if that acceptance wasn't because the whole movie was supposed to be a fantasy (with the flying and all). What do slashdotters think about the popularity of a serious big-budget Hollywood superheronie movie? You think people would go to see it?
GMD
watch this
How much do you want to bet that in the end they set aside their differences and work together against some super-villain?
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Now for an on topic comment: haven't we had enough comic book hero movies for one life time? The answer seems to be no, as it was first Superman, then Batman, and now Spider-Man who have repeatedly broken box office records every time a new one is released.
Now the bad news: we all have to wait two years for the movie to develop. So why is it such big news now?