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New Palm Pictures?

New Palm writes "It looks like pictures of a new Palm os5 device codenamed 'Oslo' have hit the web. www.pocketpcthought.com had them up, but after a phonecall from Palm's Director of Global Information Security, pulled the pictures. A number of people are mirroring them. Looks semi-legit - but who knows, and who knows how long the images will stay up?

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  1. sucked dry by Alien54 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Looks semi-legit - but who knows, and who knows how long the images will stay up?

    Probably until the Slash dot effect kicks in, and their monthly bandwith allowance is sucked dry like a raisin in the sun in Death Valley.

    Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.

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  2. Better Mirror by kawaichan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here is a better Mirror

    About the device

    -Interesting way to make the device smaller
    -Still hard graffit?
    -320x320 screen

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  3. first (broken) link by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 3, Informative

    The first mirror link, which as of now is broken, should be: http://home.earthlink.net/~ahecht/newpalm-large.jp g

  4. Nah by HomeGroove · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Take a look at the mirror. It looks like p.shop hacking up to me. The corners on the right are too sharp. I know he put rendered some clouds behind the image (God knows why) but this thing just reeks of photoshop shenanigans.

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    1. Re:Nah by gcshaw2nd · · Score: 3, Insightful
      You people are ridiculous. Everything is touched up in photoshop. It's not a conspiracy anymore; it's just the way it is. Did I miss the competition to be the first person to claim every photo is a photoshop fake?

      And such as it is, I spend a lot of time photoshopping and those corners don't look "too sharp" to me. If anything, I'd say the glare along the right edge of the graffiti portion seems abnormally sharp, but it's in keeping with the quality of the photo.

  5. Looks like a minipalm. by inkfox · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Aesthetically, that's a good way to make a small screen look even smaller. Cinching the sides like that draws a perceptual barrier between the screen and the writing area, making the thing look unusably small, even if the profile hasn't changed.

    This might swell well in Japan where smaller is seen as better, but it seems more likely to stay on the shelves in the US for average consumers.

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  6. New Marketing Tactic by NiftyNews · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can picture the marketing meeting now...

    Drone 1: Alright, listen up. So I leak these pictures...
    Drone 2: Then we go out and tell everyone not to post them!
    Drone 1: Brilliant! Let's all go home early and drink expensive wine.

    1. Re:New Marketing Tactic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Drone1: Lets stick `em on the net
      Drone2: No-one will notice - lets do a proper press release.
      Drone1: Cant be bothered. Look if we stick it on the net, then withdraw it, people will mirror it all over the net just to get back at `the man`.
      Drone2: No way..what, people with computer skills still trying to get back at their parents for not giving them every last thing they wanted while they were growing up, taking it out on the nearest authority figure? I dont believe it.
      Drone3: hey hey, come here guys, you wont believe what they`re talking about on SlashDot...

  7. Great for games! by John+Harrison · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Finally a Palm with a button layout that can be useful for games! This has taken too long! If they had put a little bit of thought into this in the first place we never would have had to deal with non-intuitive control layouts for so many games.

    That alone might make be purchase one since my Handspring recently died.

  8. Apple iPod/Palm hybrid? by theolein · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This might of course just be one of those attempts to troll /., but that jog wheel in the lower portion of the device looks very much like Apple's iPod control wheel. Given that there have been many rumours of Apple/Palm cooperation and that Palm OS5 is supposed to have all sorts of new features, examples of which are improved QuickTime compatibility, and possibly inclusion of Apple's Ink handwriting technology, there could be some basis to these rumours. Apples' cracking down on rumour websites, as well as Palm offsetting risks to Apple entering the PDA market would be further grounds for interesting news next week at the MWNY.

    1. Re:Apple iPod/Palm hybrid? by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Doesn't look like a Jog wheel to me. Looks more like a directional pad.

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  9. PalmOS 5 is a non-event by g4dget · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You can already run the emulator if you really care. But why would you? PalmOS 5 on ARM will run applications in interpreted 68k code; only the kernel will run in native ARM code (and maybe a few assembly routines you hand-code yourself). That means it will likely not run faster. It also doesn't look like there is going to be a lot of new functionality. Altogether, I don't see much reason to hold my breath for these devices. In terms of nifty hardware, the Sony's are hard too beat (although they are not the most reliable).

  10. Re:Keyboard by rleyton · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Moving parts are a Bad Thing(tm). They're always the first thing to go wrong, and the most expensive to replace.

    *Sigh*

    KISS is a sensible design methodology that I fear organiser manufacturers are forgetting.

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  11. Most likely a fake by niola · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This device appears to be a fake - seems very contradictiva of what Palm has been saying.

    First off, they pretty much told everyone that new product releases would slow to a crawl for a bit. Two reasons for this. One is that they have a LOT of inventory they want to discount and move. Sitting on inventory is bad. The other reason is that PalmOS 5 just got out of beta and released to licensees on June 10th. Don't forget that PalmOS and Palm Hardware operate as seperate entities, therefore the hardware group gets treated just like any other licensee.

    I seriously doubt that Palm would release another device using the older OS as long as they are sitting on product.

    Just my $.02...

    --Jon

  12. Mirror! by hisham · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's a mirror of the pic(s) if need be. Have fun.

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  13. Collapse by sehryan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    To me, it looks like the lower half will be able to slide up to cover the graphiti area. That would make it have a pretty high "whoa" factor, but honestly I don't think it would lend itself to being very productive.

    Not that I have ever been all that productive with graphiti.

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    1. Re:Collapse by sehryan · · Score: 3, Funny

      maybe because i can't spell graffiti right.

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  14. Why doen' by fmaxwell · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Finally a Palm with a button layout that can be useful for games! This has taken too long!

    That's like someone bemoaning the fact that a GameBoy does not ship with good software for organizing business contacts. The market for handhelds is business people, not kids who want to play video games. In fact, if Palm devices start to be used for video gaming, the business market may start to regard them as toys rather than useful technology for professionals.

    1. Re:Why doen' by yog · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Perhaps a rep as a game device would hurt Palm, but there are certainly good uses for that 4-way rocker switch beyond games. For example:

      Spreadsheets--at last, we have a way to navigate intuitively, up-down as well as left-right.

      Image display--obvious use is navigating and selecting thumbnails

      Options and Preferences--navigating tabs and operating various kinds of controls.

      Gosh I'm too tired to think this morning but probably there are hundreds of other potential applications. Overall this seems like a positive development that adheres more or less to the K.I.S.S. philosophy.

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  15. You have to understand the whole story... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    No one linked to the actual story here:

    http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic .p hp?t=2152

    The image looked "doctored" because it was - the serial number was blurred out, but that's it. Palm also threatened this guy and he took down the images...

  16. Bad design by totallygeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Moving parts are a Bad Thing(tm). They're always the first thing to go wrong, and the most expensive to replace.

    You are right. While speaking about bad design, the worst is the CD jewel case. I mean, they come out with compact discs -- awesome, but make the hinges on the jewel cases the weakest two pieces of cheap plastic known to man!

  17. Be folks working on v6 by brokeninside · · Score: 4, Insightful
    AFAIK, the engineers from Be are working on v6 which is currently a nebulous "next generation" OS for Palm Computing.

    Palm OS v5 is essentially the Palm OS kernel hacked to run on ARM with a few kludges for a bit of functionality that Palm OS currently lacks to make it competitive.

    If these pix are real, they are far more likely to be of a unit running Palm OS v5 than v6 as v6 doesn't really exist yet except on whiteboards in the heads of the OS architects.

    I have two hopes for v6:

    1. Palm Computing doesn't pull an IBM (OS/2 PPC) or an Apple (Copland, the original MacOS 8).
    2. The Be invasion of the software division of Palm Computing proceeds a la the NeXT invasion of Apple.
    And I still think it a shame that Palm Computing decided that Linux (because of the GPL) was incompatible with their business model in relation to IP. It is also a shame that they didn't (apparently) look into one of the BSDs.

    Of course, the Be crowd was purchased at a fire sale price. I bet JLG is kicking himself in the head when the company he refused to sell to Apple for millions barely managed to get hundreds of thousands in liquidation.

  18. Directional wheel? by theolein · · Score: 3, Informative

    You mean like one of those things on a game console controler? In place of a mouse? Wouldn't that be a bit of overkill with a PDA having a stylus?

  19. Why this isn't a Pshop job by Diamon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you look at the image here you lose the photoshop tell tails on the edges. Also look at the flash reflechtion on the screen particularly at the top where you can see a fingerprint smudge. If it is a fake there's far more work in making it look real than was necessary.

  20. Making is smaller means making it wearable by trainwrek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm glad they are at least thinking about how to make the PDA less of a hassle to carry around. I think Oregon Scientific have the right idea with this one. Once you can carry a PDA w/o the obnoxious bulge in your pants they will finally be usable by normal people and not geeks. They need to basically disappear into your clothing to make them really useful.

  21. game-playing on PDAs by GlenRaphael · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Finally a Palm with a button layout that can be useful for games! This has taken too long!

    That's like someone bemoaning the fact that a GameBoy does not ship with good software for organizing business contacts.

    Ericsson actually funded a company in late 1999 around the idea of making a better Gameboy that was also a decent personal information management device. With great 3-d graphics, Bluetooth connectivity, a notepad, datebook, etcetera. The company was called Red Jade, and I was the guy they hired to write the PIM functionality.

    Red Jade lost funding and died in the big crash of 2000, but it was a fun ride while it lasted.

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