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A Medireview Approach To Stopping E-Mail Attacks

dcsmith writes: "This article at the Need To Know web site reports that the free(as in beer) e-mail arm of Yahoo has been replacing certain words in messages received by yahoo.com e-mail accounts. In an apparent attempt to forestall cross-site scripting attacks, 'mocha' becomes 'espresso' and 'free expression' becomes 'free statement'... My personal favorite - since medieval contains the text "eval", it is altered to 'medireview' ... Check Google for the number of web sites containing medireview." Kwelstr points to this story at New Scientist as well.

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  1. Wow by Nept · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't believe it...a slashdot editor actually spelled "medieval" correctly.

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  2. Enh? by gregbaker · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Forgive me if I'm being dense, but how does replacing the word "mocha" prevent cross-site scripting problems? Is mocha() a function in some language with semantics "format the hard drive"?

    Even if there's some great effect, wouldn't it be easy to replace the word only if it appeared in a script? Or does IE extend it's baffling type guessing to parts of documents as well?

    1. Re:Enh? by ZxCv · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ...wouldn't it be easy to replace the word only if it appeared in a script?

      Having developed a filter for my last employer's web-based email system that does exactly that, the answer to that question is no. If every person and everything that produced HTML were to output strictly formatted HTML with little or no variation, then yes, it would be simple. The real problem lies in writing code that will catch every occurrence of your problem, whether its embedded in a URL, inside of a script block, or just referenced as a hyperlink. This obviously isn't to say it hasn't been done, and done successfully, its just to say that, in practice, its no simple task.

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  3. HTML E-mail Only by akiy · · Score: 5, Informative

    What the original poster of this article failed to mention was that this affects HTML-encoded mail only. Plain vanilla ASCII e-mail is not affected.

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  4. Yahoo works better... by zulux · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...than the CmdrTaco speling and gramer filterer that keeps Slashdot free of all 'dose cross syte scripting bugs that plauge windozw lusers. It werks espeshilayy well of page wisening posts the effect Internet Exploder useres as well.

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    1. Re:Yahoo works better... by DotComVictim · · Score: 4, Funny

      What is wrong with you? You doesn't not even spell "gramer" right. The correct speling was "grahmer", like the crackers you probably doesn't not eat too.

  5. Reason for changes... by joebp · · Score: 5, Interesting
    eval => review

    Eval is a commonly used javascript command (duh).

    mocha => espresso

    An interesting one. Mocha is the old name for what became Javascript.

    expression => statement

    Obvious

    javascript => java-script

    Breaks most javascript embedded in HTML email.

    jscript => j-script

    As above.

    vbscript => vb-script

    Breaks most vbscript embedded in HTML email.

    livescript => live-script

    Another old name for Javascript.

    However, this seems the most retarded possible way of cutting out scripts in HTML emails.

    Better, would be a regexp something like .*? and targetted removal of a few other tags.

  6. Yahoo response by naoursla · · Score: 5, Funny

    When questioned about the filter, Yahoo claimed the filter was "double plus good".

  7. Re:Probably already fixed by realdpk · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sorry, Politechbot is wrong - it is still happening, I just tried it a few seconds ago.

  8. Other amusing mangled words floating around by nd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The use of these words have also been catching on due to this behavior:

    "retrireview" (retrieval): 333 matches at google.
    "prreviewent" (prevalent): 41 matches at google.

    I'm still confused as to how this has affected so many web sites out there. Are people simply seeing these words in e-mail and then use them on their own thinking it's proper? Or are many webmasters cut and pasting their content from HTML e-mails or something?

    1. Re:Other amusing mangled words floating around by suwain_2 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I believe you meant "Lorem Ipsum"

      A search for "Lorm Ipsum" returns 6 results, but suggests "Lorem Ipsum" instead. That brings up "about" 38,100 results.

      As I curiously searched for the meaning on this phrase, I stumbled across this explanation here. Essentially, it's an adaptation of some classic quote, but, it seems, no longer really makes any sense at all.

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  9. Bah by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 4, Funny

    When they're replacing random (or not so random...) words with either 'smurf' or 'fnord,' THEN it's time to worry.

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  10. Another reason to PGP sign your mail.. by molo · · Score: 5, Informative

    This would not be as much of an issue if everyone used PGP signatures on email. It will tell you if the message has been modified in transit.

    More info in the PGP faq

    Also, for an excellent GPLed implementation of OpenPGP, use GnuPG.

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  11. I just verified it. by rc5-ray · · Score: 5, Informative
    I just sent the following words through my yahoo account (as HTML mail).

    "eval mocha expression javascript jscript vbscript livescript evaluate retrieval link script object embed body iframe layer applet meta form"

    This is what arrived in my inbox.

    "review espresso statement java-scriptj-script vb-script live-script evaluate retrireview link script object embed body iframe layer applet meta form "

    I paid the $30 to get POP3 access for a year, so it isn't just the free(beer) accounts.

    It's curious that only some of the words were changed, but not all the ones listed in the article.

  12. Re:Low Brow Solution by Jerf · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I get 85:
    antimedi eval, cheval, chevalier, chevaline, coeval, coevality, coevally, crevalle, devall, devaloka, devalorize, devaluate, devaluation, devalue, equaeval, evaluable, evaluate, evaluation, evaluative, evalue, forevalue, grandeval, kevalin, longeval, Masdevallia, mediaevalize, mediaevally, Medieval, medieval, medievalism, medievalist, medievalistic, medievalize, medievally, neomedievalism, nonprevalence, nonprevalent, nonrevaluation, omniprevalence, omniprevalent, Perceval, premedieval, premedievalism, prevalence, prevalency, prevalent, prevalently, prevalentness, prevalescence, prevalescent, prevalid, prevalidity, prevalidly, prevaluation, prevalue, primeval, primevalism, primevally, pseudomedieval, quinquevalence, quinquevalency, quinquevalent, quinquevalve, quinquevalvous, quinquevalvular, reprieval, retrieval, revalenta, revalescence, revalescent, revalidate, revalidation, revalorization, revalorize, revaluate, revaluation, revalue, rounceval, shrieval, shrievalty, trevally, undershrievalty, unevaluated, unmediaeval, unprevalent
    Ain't UNIX fun?
  13. The message is not changed, just the view of it by slyfox · · Score: 5, Informative

    When viewing an HTML mail in Yahoo, it does the translation before it displays the mail for you. However, if you 'export' or download the message, it still looks fine. Thus, it looks as if the messages are not being changed when sent or received, they are only modified when being displayed through Yahoo's HTML webmail. Granted, based on the google searches, it is still causing lots of problems for users.

  14. MediReview is a trademark! by cgleba · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From http://www.multum.com/SubscribeRx.htm

    "MediReview: is our comprehensive, patient-specific drug summary that includes dosing recommendations, drug interaction and allergy alerts, side effects, and pregnancy and lactation warnings. Providers and patients can use MediReview to tailor a patient's medications to their specific medical history--and proactively reduce ADEs."

    This is so amusing!

  15. Information corruption by Jonny+290 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm going to laugh when Starbucks sues the shit out of Yahoo when they order 100,000 units of mocha and get shipped 100,000 units of espresso.

    Fucking idiotic.

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