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Lost Python Sketches Will See The Light

Beli writes: "According to this story over at BBC, 3 lost Monty Python sketches written by the late Graham Chapman have been found and are to be played this year at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. Now if only John Cleese, Eric Idle and Co. would perform them. Apparently a comedy group called Sketch Club will have such honor."

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  1. We can only hope... by asdfasdfasdfasdf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hopefully, they'll wheel Graham Chapman's urn out so he can be present for the premiere.

  2. I don't care how good the writing is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    .... it's not a Monty Python sketch unless the original troupe is performing it. End of story.

    That said, I wouldn't mind checking this out. :)

    1. Re:I don't care how good the writing is... by pokeyburro · · Score: 2

      Never fear. One of the lost pieces is called 'The Dead Troupe Member Sketch'. Should be worth a look.

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  3. Yuck by HiQ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Being a great Monty Python fan, and not knowing the comedy group 'Sketch Club', I am very much afraid that it will be something like Backstreet Boys singing a few newly found Beatles songs. It can never be as good as the Python boys doing Python, however hard they will try.

    1. Re:Yuck by rde · · Score: 5, Informative
      Relax. I say this for several reasons:

      The Fringe is hardly the sort of festival that would accommodate the comedic equivalent of the Backstreet Boys. It's more of a Sex Pistols sort of event (but without the spitting).

      Of course it won't be the same as the origninal Python lads. I doubt that the Sketch Club themselves would make that claim. But let's face it: they Python sketches themselves, though impeccably written (4th series excepted), where often somewhat haphazard in their execution. I for one would love to see these new sketches performed by people who aren't - I hope they'll pardon the phrase - a bunch of old farts, however much an institution they are.

    2. Re:Yuck by JamesOfTheDesert · · Score: 2
      The Fringe is hardly the sort of festival that would accommodate the comedic equivalent of the Backstreet Boys. It's more of a Sex Pistols sort of event (but without the spitting).

      I've only been to one Fringe, about 8 years ago, but it was hardly a "Sex Pistols sort of event." Many things were quite good, but too much was artsy hippy shit. It was more of a Grateful Dead sort of event.

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  4. Its Great! by idfrsr · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Edingburgh Fringe Festival is a fantastic place to show these sketches.

    My only wish is that there is a lumberjack in a dress, a dead parot, a minister with a walking problem and someone called "Bwian" in the skits

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    1. Re:Its Great! by evilpenguin · · Score: 2

      Yeah. Bleedin' sea bird flavor!

  5. Graham Chapman, won't be the same without him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I heard his last words were "I'm not dead." or was it "I feel happy, I feel happy!" I can never remember.

    1. Re:Graham Chapman, won't be the same without him by trix_e · · Score: 4, Funny

      he's not dead... he's resting.

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  6. Important Work? by kvn299 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My impression is that the Pythons wrote many sketches that never saw the light of day. In a Vanity Fair interview several years ago, they said that while producing the show, many sketches were presented but weren't accepted, often because they weren't funny. Does this mean that those discarded skits should rate alongside the Python's best work? The article is a little vague about when these were written.

    It's nice that Chapman's work is still considered important enough for this kind of treatment, but in the end, what we have is the work done by the group. And that work is why we love Monty Python so much. Together they were so much more than the sum of their parts, and I think these skits should be viewed in that light.

    That said, I can't wait to see the Gay Budgie skit!

    1. Re:Important Work? by King+Of+Chat · · Score: 2

      You could say the same about Earth Final Conflict and Andromeda. Maybe Gene Roddenbery never got around to making them because he realised they sucked.

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    2. Re:Important Work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My impression, after watching the BBC documentary, is that at each meeting, there were many ideas from each member that were not used, simply because they needed to make room in the show for someone else's ideas. Further impressions from the documentary are that it would have been rare for Chapman to write whole sketches by himself.

      That said, I can't believe all the people who are wishing for things they've already seen to be in these sketches! Why not wish for something new and shockingly different? That is what made the whole thing so amusing in the first place.

  7. As John Cleese would say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    Now if only John Cleese, Eric Idle and Co. would perform them. Apparently a comedy group called Sketch Club will have such honor
    And now, for something entirely different...

    or

    Nobody expects the Sketch Club!

    1. Re:As John Cleese would say by CProgrammer98 · · Score: 2

      The line was "And now for something COMPELTELY different" (cue music...)

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    2. Re:As John Cleese would say by CProgrammer98 · · Score: 2

      As you can see, I speak typo fluently.

      Let's try that again...

      "And now for something completely different..." (cue music...)

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    3. Re:As John Cleese would say by daeley · · Score: 2

      And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour

      Hey you misspelled "neighbor" in your sig, too! ;-D

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  8. going to the Edinburgh fest. by will_die · · Score: 4, Informative

    For thoses now planning to go and are new to it. The fest is actually consists of around 7 festivals going on at the same time, everything from military performance, book festival, comedians, music, opera, etc.
    The place is just packed with performances in every available building, from government offices to local churches. Most of the rooms are small places with just enough room for the performers and the small audiance.
    Usally good shows, and during breaks between show you can tour Edinburgh.

    1. Re:going to the Edinburgh fest. by TooMuchCoff3E · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I went to the festival last year. It is mainly a bunch of actors putting on shows for other actors. The military tattoo was worth checking out. Going to see the city of Edinburgh itself is worth it, it is abolutely amazing.

  9. Graham Chapman: godlike genius by Cally · · Score: 5, Informative

    Graham Chapman was - IS - a complete hero of mine. Not only did he write much of the Python material (in collaboration with Eric Idle and John Cleese), he starred in The Life of Brian and the Holy Grail films whilst suffereing from a chronic alcohol problem (multiple bottles of gin a day.) He was also one of the first celebrities to come out as gay, and helped found Gay News when sexual relationships between two consenting adults was still illegal in this country.

    I strongly recommend his wonderful "A Liar's Autobiography" for a painfully candid (and very funny) story of his life.

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    1. Re:Graham Chapman: godlike genius by jeremyp · · Score: 2

      He had dried out before Life of Brian as I recall.

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  10. Re:It is an ex parrot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Executive of VA software walks into an office. Behind the counter is Rob Malda ....

    VA: Excuse me miss.
    RM: Miss?
    VA: I'm sorry, I have a cold. I wish to make a complaint. It's about this news discussion site which I bought from you this very afternooon.
    RM: A yes, the Slashdot - beautiful site, lovely perl scripts.
    VA: The perl scripts don't enter into it. It's stone dead!
    RM: It's not dead, it's just pining for the WIPO Troll. Look, there - it moved.
    ....

  11. Reminds me of a "How to write unmaint.. code" by ManxStef · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cut-and-pasted from How To Write Unmaintainable Code (the "Naming" section):

    Obscure film references: Use constant names like LancelotsFavouriteColour instead of blue and assign it hex value of $0204FB. The color looks identical to pure blue on the screen, and a maintenance programmer would have to work out 0204FB (or use some graphic tool) to know what it looks like. Only someone intimately familiar with Monty Python and the Holy Grail would know that Lancelot's favorite color was blue. If a maintenance programmer can't quote entire Monty Python movies from memory, he or she has no business being a programmer.

  12. Misquotations all over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    What a bunch of wannabes...

    #3900656: Everybody knows the true quote is "This is an ex parrot".

    #3900719: The correct quote is "And now for something completely different."

    #3900723: The original quote was "...sink in water."

    The only thing worse than a complete Python geek is a complete Python geek too lame to even get the quotes right.

    1. Re:Misquotations all over by daeley · · Score: 2

      "The only thing worse than being talked about is *not* being talked about."

      "Very witty, Wilde, very witty."

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  13. what about the others? by luciensims · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Now if only John Cleese, Eric Idle and Co. would perform them. Apparently a comedy group called Sketch Club will have such honor

    you know, i would've thought that monty python, as a group, would get more respect form the people of slashdot than to reference them as cleese, idle, and co.

    terry gilliam, anybody? terry jones?

    bah...

    1. Re:what about the others? by JimPooley · · Score: 2

      You forgot Michael Palin!

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  14. Complaint by tybalt44 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear Sir,

    I must protest in the strongest possible terms the obviously pedantic turn that this thread has taken. I have served in the Navy for seventy-nine years, and have never seen a trace of cannibalism on Slashdot until this post. Why must the average British Linux user be subjected to this filth and depredation!?

    Yours etc.,

    Rear-Admiral Arthur Mellish Winstanley (Mrs.)

    1. Re:Complaint by VikingBerserker · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dear Rear-Admiral Arthur Mellish Winstanley (Mrs.),

      As a Slashdot editor I abhor the implication that the website is a haven for cannibalism. It is well known that we now have the problem relatively under control, and that it is ThinkGeek who now suffer the largest casualties in this area. And where do you think they get their caffeine from? Arabs?

      Yours etc.

      Cmdr. Taco in a white wine sauce with shallots, mushrooms and garlic

  15. If you need to refresh your Python knowledge ... by belbo · · Score: 5, Informative
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  16. Eric Idle sketch by CommieLib · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember seeing an interview with Eric Idle where he performed about thirty seconds of a sketch that was deemed too rough for the BBC. It involved a pretentious wine tasting where the taster would attempt to guess the name of a wine after tasting it, "Chateu LaFite '45, from the south of France?" And then the host would announce, "no, that is wee-wee."

    I obviously can't do it justice here, but I laughed my butt off.

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  17. Re:bad news for Linux!! by chaidawg · · Score: 3, Insightful
    You are one of the unfotunates that believe this site is devoted to linux and linux users. You are wrong. As the tag line reads "News for nerds, stuff that matters." THough linux does play a large role in this site, not all nerds care about it, and it doesnt always matter.

    I'm sure that there are some nerds and techies that read /. that think Python stories matter more than linux.

    If you don't care about a story, fine, don't read or comment on it. Just don't say it shouldn't be here because it would harm the reputation of Linux.

  18. Arguments by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

    "Lost Python Sketches Will See The Light"

    No they won't!
    Yes they will!
    No they won't!
    Yes they will!

    Look, I'm not allowed to argue unless you subscribe to /.

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    1. Re:Arguments by sfraggle · · Score: 2

      See, the sketches werent dead, they were just resting.

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  19. Re:Cool by christoph_s · · Score: 3, Informative

    i would prefer the "lost" german episodes to be transferred to dvd. they were available on video for some time now (from guerilla-films.com) and they are hilarious (especially the first episode. it ist in german, even the guys didn't know german ;-).

  20. Don't get so excited by chegosaurus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Isn't it true that most lost songs, lost sketches, lost stories etc. are lost for a reason?

    Even hard-core Python fans must surely admit that a lot of crap made it into a lot of episodes, and these sketches obviously weren't good enough even to get in ahead of those.

    Face it chaps. It will suck harder than those lost Beatles songs that kept turning up. And that's HARD.

    1. Re:Don't get so excited by White+Roses · · Score: 2
      Good point. The last season was mostly re-hash of the first three. Cleese left after the third for just that reason.

      Now, I watch the re-runs and own the DVDs because the originals are so great. The Silly Walks episode is one of the best they ever did. But let's face it, Mr. Neutron wasn't much of an episode.

      Let sleeping dogs lie.

      Unless you've found the Chapman-Adams collaborative efforts. Then I might want to see those. But that's not Python.

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  21. Re:I dunno ... by Mr_Matt · · Score: 2

    What if some lost Three Stooges scripts were found, who would want to see some latter day
    imitators?


    As long as the three guys performing the sketch were boy-band members, and none of the punches were pulled, I would! :)

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  22. They are. by gaudior · · Score: 2

    I have them in the 2 disk best of set I got for Christmas.

    1. Re:They are. by gaudior · · Score: 2

      I wish I could look it up. I'm on contract away from home. I think I remember 2 german episodes, but I might be wrong. The set I have includes a special hosted by Steve Martin, and includes clips from the Hollywood Bowl, etc.

    2. Re:They are. by gaudior · · Score: 2

      The set I have is 2 DVD's in a box.

  23. "Overworked Messiah and a Gay Budgie" by ashitaka · · Score: 2

    Yup, sounds like Graham.

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  24. a reunion, never. by geekoid · · Score: 2

    "Now if only John Cleese, Eric Idle and Co. would perform them."

    once, they where offered a 10 million gaurentee for a 6 week tour, they turned it down.
    somehow, I don't think they'll be back.

    If they ever did come back, I truly pray they write new stuff. I think it would be interesting to see how there writing has change, and how they view current affairs.

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  25. I hope they will be serving in Edinburgh by Anthony · · Score: 2

    Otters Noses, Badgers spleens. Oh, and Albatross as well. As long as it comes with wafers. And Salmon mousse, We all have the right to eat Salmon mousse and the right to be entertained by a Cabaret singer and dancer afterwards, regardless of our physical wellbeing.

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  26. Lego meets the Holy Graal by shd99004 · · Score: 2

    LEGO movie of the holy Graal

    What can I say. I love it :-)

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