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Broadcasters Appeal Royalty Ruling

tanveer1979 pointed out this story, but his summary of it wasn't much good. :) According to Reuters and Kurthanson.com, broadcasters (regular radio stations, not webcasters) are appealing a year-old ruling which would require them to make the same royalty payments for webcasting that webcast-only stations have to make. They're arguing that Congress intended the royalty payments to apply only to internet services which allow one to pick what music one receives - if the listener is force-fed a stream, like regular radio, Congress didn't intend for the royalty payments to apply.

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  1. good luck........ by dciman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wish these guys the best. But I seriously doubt they have much chance of changing the ruling. I fear the RIAA and big business has too strong a hold on the key parties in congress for them to be able to make much head way. It is really sad that the RIAA seeks to have such a strangle hold on every possible outlet for media. Which of course means one thing...support your local independent music scene!!!

  2. Cue Nelson by PinkStainlessTail · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and broadcast giants like Clear Channel Communications Inc. would be on the hook for 70 cents for each song played to an audience of 1,000 listeners.

    Would this be a textbook example of an "unintended consequence?"

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  3. I hope they lose by CableModemSniper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    On the one hand the law makes life difficult for teh webcasters so maybe the law itslef needs to be looked at. But if IRL radio stations get special treatment just because they happen to be IRL radio stations, thats just wrong. Suck it up and take your lumps like everybuddy else. Hopefully the stations will begin to realize how dangerous the RIAA is when it starts cutting into their profits. The more infighting the better.

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  4. I hope the ability to "save" isn't the only point by dave_mcmillen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article (Reuters): "But Congress intended the law to apply only to services that would enable users to select and download songs, not online radio-style broadcasts that do not allow users to save songs, the broadcasters said in their appeal." [emphasis added]

    If the ability to "save songs" is the main issue, there could be trouble if somebody realizes how easy it is to record streamed audio. Just click your favourite "record directly from the sound card" application, and there you are: a nice sound file containing the song you want.

    Of course, you can do this with real radio broadcasts, too, but everyone's decision-making abilities go haywire as soon as the word "digital" enters the debate: the streamed version would yield a DIGITAL copy of the song in question, and is therefore evil and scary.

    But here's hoping the broadcasters win. It would be great news for webcasters: just eliminate choice, the way God intended, and you're allowed to broadcast over the Web for free!

  5. not only the money by billybobSDK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Money is not only the only issue here. A big portion of the law requires radio stations to keep an unreasonable amount of records regarding the number of listeners at any given time, all kinds of information about the song. This alone would crush the independent (college etc.) radio stations that simply cannot afford to implement the infrastructure. What is happening is that independent stations will forced out of the market, while the big boys who can afford the equipment will serve to further homogenize American music.

  6. small broadcasters... by simpl3x · · Score: 4, Insightful

    unfortunately, this law pretty much kills local/college/independent webcasting, and leaves the the crap from regular radio with a monopoly. the web could provide some really interesting stuff down the road, particularly with wireless capabilities in cell phones. stream'n web broadcasts through your web enabled phone, mmm!

    and clear channel is not exactly a pussycat!

  7. What you guys are missing ... by JoeBuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... is that the radio stations' argument, that "Congress intended the law to apply only to services that would enable users to select and download songs, not online radio-style broadcasts that do not allow users to save songs", if it prevails, would eliminate the payments not only for radio stations, but for net-only streaming services, as long as it's a stream where the program director or DJ, not the individual listener, chooses the songs to play. Nowhere are they saying that they deserve special rights because they have an FCC license to broadcast on the radio. It is the RIAA spokesman who is saying that the radio stations are seeking "special treatment".

    Given this, I don't understand the objections I'm seeing here.

    1. Re:What you guys are missing ... by Dr_LHA · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Typically, I use webcasted music to be exposed to new bands and genres, and I don't see how the music industry could be opposed to that. Sheesh.

      Because at the moment webcasting represents a level playing field in terms of what gets played. This means that the big record companies (lets face it the RIAA are not looking after the interests of small indie labels - only the Sonys of this world) can't control what you listen to.

      The result is: You start buying stuff from small labels intent on quality and rewarding the artists. Sales on major labels go down. Anarchy and/or Communism ensues.

  8. darned if you do, darned if you don't by MarvinMouse · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, here's an interesting catch-22.

    If CCU gets the rights to broadcast online without paying the fees, then it looks really bad for everyone involved because it'll look like congress and the big corps are all scratching eachother's backs. As well, the recording companies will raise more hell because they won't be getting all of the money they feel they deserve.

    If CCU doesn't get the rights to broadcast online without paying the fees, then CCU will raise all hell, because they already broadcast for minimal fees over radiowaves. Plus, having a media conglomerate mad at you isn't a good way to win elections, I think the politicians have found.

    This situation, if resolved, will be resolved totally behind closed doors I think, because short of repealing the law altogether, the only solution will leave everyone with egg on their faces.

    Just a really interesting catch-22 when laws aren't thought through completely.

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  9. No, the NAB wants special treatment for radio by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative
    The National Association of Broadcasters is asking for special treatment for Internet transmissions by "FCC-licensed broadcast stations". In the NAB's words:
    • Summary of Argument:
      AM/FM streaming -- the Internet transmission by an FCC-licensed radio broadcaster of the program fare offered by such broadcaster pursuant to its FCC license -- constitutes a "nonsubscription broadcast transmission" within the meaning of Section 114(d)(1)(A) of the Copyright Act, and thereby is exempt from the limited performance right in sound recordings conferred by Section 106(6) of the Act.

      ...

      While there is thus no need to resort to legislative history, that legislative history nevertheless confirms the plain language construction of the "nonsubscription broadcast transmission" exemption, and demonstrates that Congress did not intend to impose sound recording public performance copyright liability upon FCC-licensed terrestrial broadcasters that simultaneously stream their radio programming to listeners via the Internet.

    So the NAB does want a special deal for FCC-licensed radio broadcasters. Internet-only webcasters would not benefit from this deal. Nor will they benefit if the NAB wins this lawsuit. Read the filing.
  10. Hobbling the competition is the point by FaithAndReason · · Score: 4, Informative

    Way back in 1995, the NAB and RIAA already began to realize that the Internet might be a threat to their established business. (Hey, they may be greedy, but they're not stupid!) So, they did what you might expect an established American business to do: they bought a law to protect themselves against competition, the DPRA (cool - another 4-letter acronym to hate!)
    According the NAB's own words in the linked "summary" posting, p.4:

    The impetus for the legislation was concerns of the recording industry that certain emerging businesses enabled by developing digital transmission technologies might provide music transmissions of such nature and quality as would displace record sales.

    This little gem of a quote is part of the NAB's appeal document! The NAB/RIAA does not even attempt to hide the fact that the purpose of the DPRA was specifically to target select-and-download services and prop up "no-choice" broadcasting.

    Unfortunately for them, the US Copyright Office refused to play along, and decided that all Internet streams would be charged similarly. So, they're understandably upset that the law they bought and paid for isn't protecting them as well as they'd like. (Some days, even a CongressCritter is a lousy investment...)

    Unfortunately for the rest of us, the law was clearly intended to exempt them from royalties, so they'll probably get a "clarification" buried deep within the next huge steaming pile of legislation regarding the Office of Homeland Security or whatever.

    As to those who have posted "hey, Congress won't do that -- it will make it way too obvious that they're supporting the fat cats in the RIAA!": what color is the sky in the world where you live (and how can I get there?)

  11. Re:a reply from nancy pelosi by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 5, Insightful
    In other words,
    Dear Constituent,

    I've been bought and paid for, but I'll pretend to lend a sympathetic ear.

    Tough luck, Sucker.

    Love, Your CongressCritter
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