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Mac OS X Server 10.2 Announced
Aqua_Geek writes "Also announced was Mac OS X Server 10.2. From Apple's PR site: '"Jaguar" Server introduces more than 50 new features, including powerful new NetBoot and NetInstall network management tools, based on Apple's new LDAPv3 Open Directory architecture that simplifies user and computer management for business, education and government customers.'" The price is $500 for 10 clients, and $1000 for unlimited clients.
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Whats black, blue and green and doesnt like sex?
The Girl Scout locked in my basement.
Whats the worst part about having sex with a six year-old?
Getting the blood out of your clown suit.
Whats the best thing about getting a hand job from a five year-old?
That little hand makes your thing look really huge.
Guy comes home from work to find his girlfriend sitting on the porch, crying.
Whats wrong, honey?
Im leaving you! I just found out youre a pdophile!
Pdophile? Why, thats a pretty big word for a ten year-old.
How can you tell when your sisters on her period?
When your dads dick tastes like blood!
Two pdophiles are lying on a beach tanning, one turns to the other and says, Excuse me, youre in my son.
What is the sickest sound you hear when fucking a nine year-old?
Her hips snapping!
What is the best sound you hear when fucking a 13 year-old?
Her hips snapping!
Whats 18 inches long, blue, veiny, and makes a woman cry?
Crib death.
How could the mans seven year-old son tell that his dad had fucked his eight year-old sister? His dads weiner tasted like blood!
Watson returns home to find Holmes in bed with a child. He shouts, Is this some sort of a schoolgirl?
Holmes replies, Elementary, my dear Watson.
So I was having sex with my girlfriend, and I decided I wanted to get kinky and try and do her in the ass. So I slipped around back; she looked over her shoulder at me and said, My, how presumptuous of you. I said, Presumptuous? Thats a big word for a ten year-old.
Two guys are walking down the street when a beautiful woman passes. The first guy says, Damn! Id love to tear her clothes off, do her in the rear, smear my fces all over her, slice off her breasts, chop her into little pieces, put her in a garbage bag and toss her into the river!
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First guy says, Whatre you? A fag?
A kindergarten teacher is asking the kids what their father does for a living. All the kids answer except for Little Johnny. The teacher asks Little Johnny what his Dad does and Johnny replies, My dad is dead.
The teacher says, Thats terribile, but what did he do before he died?
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A guy calls in sick to work.
Whats wrong? asks the boss.
Im sick, the guy replies.
You sound all right.
No, Im really sick. Believe me.
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A little girl accompanied her father to the barbershop. While her dad received a haircut, the little girl stood next to the barber chair, enjoying a snack cake. The barber smiled at her and said, Sweetheart, youre going to get hair on your Twinkie.
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An older man and a small boy walk hand in hand through the woods.
Boy: These woods sure are spooky!
Man: You think youre scared, Ive gotta walk out of here alone.
Whats the difference between Neil Armstrong and Michael Jackson?
One walked on the moon, and the other rapes little boys.
Has anyone read Michael Jacksons new book, The Ins and Outs of Child Rearing?
Q: Whats the difference between a dead baby and a golden delicious apple?
A: I dont cum all over the golden delicious apple before I take a bite out of it.
Q: Whats the difference between a dead baby and my girlfriend?
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A: 14 three year-olds.
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Q: Whats the safest way to play with a baby?
A: With a condom.
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wh9pza4L7o Post #262
So, according to yesterdays "$1 per feature" keynote by Jobs about MacOSX 10.2 (Jaguar), this should cost just $50! ;-)
Why choose OSX server ? Why does your server need all the gui goodies , digital hub blah blah that makes OSX so nice to use ?
This is an area where linux/BSD excels , can be configured for the job at hand ( read stable ) and can run on suitable-no-bullshit-run-what-ya-brung hardware. What a waste of nice hardware and software to confine it as a server when there are much more suitable tools to do the job - and do it cheaper and better.
I've seen a lot of really critical reactions on other sites when this announcement came out I don't know how the traditional UNIX vendors do their licensing Per client as well. But if you compare it to MS's scheme it's really pretty fair. A 5 user upgrade to Win2000 Server will set you back about 500 bucks. Apples is for 10 user. It's the 1000 dollar version that makes it not so bad. MS CALs are what about 30 bucks. To keep the pricing similar For Win2000 Server what could you get for your extra 500 bucks 16 cals for a grand total of 21 CALs. If you have more than 25 clients on you network it's a really good price because they don't sock it to you on the CALs. In spite of it being a ".1" update seem like it packs more that that minor number would make you think. It seems more like the OpenBSD versioning. Their releases usually carry a .1 value but quite often pack a lot of punch in them. IMO Apples numbering scheme for X isn't really very accurate. PB was really more of a late developer release. 10 was really more of a public beta, 10.1 was the real "10" release and Jaguar is really 10.1. People don't like vaporware so they pushed it prematurely to prove they really were working on something and that things were going somewhere not like Pink, taligent(was that the same as pink) Copeland. Apple should have more of a grace period on who can upgrade especially for those early adopter of the Xserve(I believe they were warned though, Pay to play IIRC)
I am kind of curious how the pricing schemes for Solaris, HPUX, AIX etc were/are like. Anyone??
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What is pirate software? Software for inventory of stolen treasure?
Heh, I was just going to post the exact same comment.
A pretty OS X desktop I can understand. If Apple were really with it, they'd port it to x86 and start yanking Windows customers over in droves. Most consumers don't want to pay for Apple's overpriced hardware.
A GUI on a server sort of redirects the server focus doesn't it? My servers are built for stability, speed and then ease of use. Apple has this backwards, I think.
-techwolf
I don't do this for karma, I do it for cash. It's much better.
Guess what- from what I've read so far, they plan to charge full fare for 10.1 server -> 10.2 server, $1000 for a 50-item upgrade.
That would be all well and good if I could get away with running 10.1 forever, but I'm concerned that after 10.2 comes pre-installed on Apple's hardware, support for issues on 10.1 will fade, especially with regard to software updates.
Seems like the bottom line is we should have chosen linux in the first place - we went with OS X server to give the mac-only sysadmin a warm fuzzy feeling of confidence, but we've had more trouble than success with them. In fact, because of backup issues (with Retrospect) we weren't able to get them into the production environment until only a month ago, even though we purchased them in 2001!
Simply - you don't have too.
What is nice about OS X is that someone who knows little can setup the best webserver (apache) and configure the network from a gui interface, then shutdown the gui to save the processor those precise cycles to then have a lean, mean, binary number crunch'n machine.
Okay, maybe someone here who has followed the Mac world more closely than I can shead some light on something I've wondered about. A few years ago, Apple came out with OS X Server that wasn't built from BSD - it used one of the other projects that tried to become "the" OS X (rhapsody?). I recall that when they announced it, it came with the caviot that it would be superceeded by the BSD based OS X, then due out in 6 to 12 months. So what I'm wondering is, was there ever a clear migration path from that system to what is now called OS X Server, or was it really a dead-end that was better to avoid? Just curious.
-"Zow"
Most people do not want to know "technical stuff" about their computer, so why should the masses adopt something other than Win or OsX?
A new Windows came for all to fear
It started with Windows x.y,
And then Windows 95
And every 24 or 36 months it seemed,
New versions would pop up right to ME n' XP
If cost summed, for each Windows released
Over 500 dollars the price would increase!
One could say the only difference between 98 and ME
Is a few widgets redrawn and new bugs to be seen!
When compared to Microsoft, Apple's no better .3,
They just choose different numbers rather then letters!
Its not so hard to buy 10.2 or
If you think of it like buying a brand new XP
To many Apple is just a corporate beast
But they do need a pay check at the end of the week
And unlike Windows' excuse for another crappy update
Apple has an OpenGL facelift on the entire Quartz draw rate!
Peace out fools ;-)...
--"You are your own God"--
Didn't OSX server 10.1 have an unlimited client licence only? According to Apple's online store, the XServe server comes with 10.1 (at the moment until August 24) with Software:"Mac OS X Server
Unlimited-Client License"...
Since the new version has a price for 10 and unlimited clients it looks like Apple is trying to get more money here as well.
Ok, so I can let slide that there's no upgrade pricing from OS X 10.1 to 10.2, but when it comes to Server.... this just isn't right.
Those of us who need the features of 10.1 Server Unlimited (Mac Manager, nice NetInfo user management, more than 10 AFP connections at once) and shelled out for it, shouldn't have to buy whole new licences just to upgrade our boxes.
Sure, there are a bunch of new features that are worth paying for, but not the full price...
First Apple shafted us by not offering an upgrade from OS X Server 1.02 to OS X Server 1.2v3. Then they didn't offer any kind of discount from 1.x to 10.x. Now there's no upgrade from 10.1 to 10.2.
OK, so they're just following past history here, but this is the most unreasonable of the lot imho....
i don't read slashdot anymore.
(that i kind of forgot to mention...)
There are some bugs and missing essential features in OSXS 10.1 that Apple really need to release an update for free to fix. If the only way you can get these fixes is to pay for another full licence to OSXS 10.2, well, that just isn't right...
i don't read slashdot anymore.
NetInfo itself works fine. What's the bugs you see?
If you're talking about NetInfo Home Directories, then it's applications that cause the bugs. KeyChain, MS Office, these are the cause of the bugs, not NetInfo itself.
Of course, a lot of people have problems cause they haven't set up their directories properly, but that's another problem....
i don't read slashdot anymore.
I don't get it. "I bought mu server a year ago and payed $1000 for the OS and now I have to pay $1000 again and it really sux0rs". Well... duh? If you bought a Windows server last year, what did you get on it? Right, Windows 2000, and what do you do if you want to upgrade to .Net server? Right, you pay, now tell me why that's not OK when the server comes from Apple. If you don't want it, don't buy it - plain and simple.
maybe i haven't been keeping up with the time, but it seems that apple has changed up the font that they're using on their website.
/. story???
this is a pretty significant upgrade isn't it? where's the
MacOSX Server can run in pure text only console whatdoesittaketogetitthroughyourfukingdumbhead NO GUI mode, assclown. So, how many more times will this question popup in the near future? God only knows
...instead of fooling around with servers from the same company that makes fucking cute MP3 players?
Windows is the most secure, reliable and affordable server OS around!