Sybase Advertises 'PATRIOTcompliance'
xmtrx writes "While everyone is rabidly pouncing, pounding and going pundit on Palladium, little-to-no attention is being paid to enterprise-class spyware such as Sybase's PATRIOTcompliance Solution. Their ad includes such gems as "Non-compliance is not an option" and "...helps you satisfy the many integration requirements of the USA PATRIOT Act by... filtering your customers, employees and suppliers against known suspects, and then... continuously monitoring their future activities." No punchline." The laws passed which affect financial institutions are mostly opaque to Joe Citizen. Sybase's press release sheds a little bit of light on what is going on behind the scenes.
This world is getting scary.. with things like this the only way to really find a solution is to ask "What would jesus do?"
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"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon, Marshal of France - speaking truth to power
This is just plain scary and one of the reasons open source is the only way to go for enterprise (you could also say all) software. This sort of crap is much more difficult to put into open source programs.
The even scarier thing to think about, is what happens when goverements want to make this sort of thing compulsary ? Then they'll have to go after open source projects, as this just doesn't work for them.
It's a bit cliche but 1984 was a typo....
It has never been easy meeting other men to play with, except if you go to
an adult bookstore. Sure its anonymous, but sometimes that more thrilling.
The fantasy is all yours, the excitement of the instant connection, the
cock, the ass, and the sweat!
When I was growing up in Maryland, there was an adult bookstore not more
than 10 minutes from my house. Being a military town, you can only imagine
the numbers of hot, uniformed guys that would come in on a regular basis to
get their rocks off. I have always been attracted to men in uniform, and
the chance to suck their cocks, lick their holes, fuck or be fucked by them
has always been a thrill.
I can remember one particular day that stands out in my mind. It was a lazy
summer day, and I was just itching to meet some new guys. Was hornier than
I had been in a long time (less than 24 hours usually), and just wanted the
excitement of sucking some good dick. So I pulled on my most comfortable
gym shorts, tank top, sneakers, and a ball cap. Almost never go out with
out a cap. There is something just sexy about a man in a well-formed
baseball cap. I guess it would help if you knew what I looked like too. I'm
5'10", about 180, smooth, tight ass, goatee, and short cropped hair. Not
extremely muscular, but not a slug either.
In any case I got in the car and drove down. When I pulled into the parking
lot I could see that the store wasn't particularly busy, only about 5 other
cars in the lot. I knew the one was the working manager's and the other's
was not sure, but probably regulars. I went in, chatted with the clerk, got
my tokens, and headed for the back. The back area was where they had the
video booths. Some of the booths had glory holes cut into the walls, while
they left a couple alone for those who were shy. I wandered around checking
out the clientele, and noticed that there were a few military guys nervously
looking at the selections. You can always tell they are military because of
the haircuts, and their reactions.
The one that caught my eye, and me his, was a guy about my height, but about
30 pounds heavier, broad shoulders, short cropped light brown hair, and one
hell of a nice ass. The running shorts he wore left little to the
imagination, and my dick was getting harder by the moment. He walked past
me and made just brief eye contact. I smiled, moved out of his way so he
could check out the videos playing in the booth in front of me, and I
watched. He instinctively went into the very last booth at the end. That
was notoriously the busiest as the glory hole in the wall was much larger
than the rest. I waited just until he latched the door, and I went into
the adjacent booth.
I heard him drop a few tokens, and I did the same. I bent down and peered
through the hole to see what his intensions were. Some guys go in and just
jerk off and never let you suck on their cocks, others are primed before you
even shut the door. I squatted down and let my index finger run the edge of
the glory hole. He was massaging the front of his running shorts, and I
could tell his cock was getting harder. He then slipped the cock out the
right leg of his shorts and continued to build it up. He maneuvered just
enough to ensure he knew who was on the other side and then came closer. He
slipped his cock into the hole and into my waiting mouth. I took his cock
in only so far, and licked the piss slit. There was the faint taste of
precum, and it made me shiver. I then went full tilt down his cock shaft to
let him know I meant business. He pulled out slightly, I feared he was too
nervous, but when I looked back through the hole, he had pulled his running
shorts down to his ankles. Positioned again, I went to work.
His cock was thicker than most, and about 6 1/2 inches long. It tasted of a
fresh shower, with just a hint of sweat behind the balls. I deep throated
his cock a couple of times and run my tongue up the underside of the shaft.
He pushed further into the hole, and I keep sucking that hot meat. He
started to breath heavier, and softly say things like, "Fuck man take my
cock", "Oh yeah, that's it, lick that Army dick!" All of which made my cock
twitch. I went on for some time, and then he pulled back again. This time
he leaned down to the hole, and whispered for me to join him in his booth.
To seconds later I was pushing the door in.
He stood there in the dim light, tee shirt over his head exposing a well
formed, and hairy chest. As I suspected the rest of the package was just as
nice. I started to lick and lightly bite his nipples, and then work my way
over to his arm pits. They too smelled of soap, but being in this small,
hot booth, the perspiration had begun and it tasted slightly salty and
tangy. He moaned softly as I kept up my eager journey down his body. I
worked my back down to his cock and gulped down. He held my head down into
his crotch, and made certain I had the whole of his dick in my throat. The
Army Drill Instructor ( I found out later), then started to pump his weapon
into my mouth. Holding my head still he pistoned his hips in and out of my
face hole.
I could tell he was getting close, but he wasn't ready to blow just yet. He
pulled his slick cock out of my mouth and turned around. He presented me
with a full muscled, and furried ass. I love a man's ass, and enjoy eating
that pungent hole just about more than anything. He pushed back and let me
spread those globes. I bent in, and took a long hard whiff of the smell.
The musk from his ass was intoxicating. I then eagerly pushed my face into
that sweaty crack and started to tongue wash his hole. The lips of his
sphincter pulsed with my every touch. I spread the cheeks wider so that I
could go deeper inside. I buried my tongue as far into that tender tunnel
as I could. He moaned and writhed in pleasure as I continued to eat that
fucking Army butt.
All this time he continued to stroke his cock, and I knew if he kept this up
much longer he would shoot. He then turned back around and ordered me to
stand up, turn around, and drop trou. I was hoping to get fucked by that
meat, but sometimes in these situations you never know. I did as I was
ordered and pushed back slightly to open up my hole. He positioned his cock
head at the entrance and pushed into me. The sheer shock of having his cock
push past my hole raw, gave me just a bit of pain, but that lasted briefly
as I became accustomed to his tool. He then grabbed my hips, and started
thrusting deep into my cavity. He was a bull in a china shop and determined
to break every dish. I tried not to cry out, and instead just bit my arm.
I met his every move with a hard response. I whispered that I loved his
cock, that I wanted him to make my hole his, and to keep fucking me. He
complied, and followed up with a litany of barked orders to take his cock,
be the fucking fag whore that I was, and that he was going to drown my hole
with his spunk.
The faster his pace, the more I knew he meant every word. I could feel his
cock tense inside me, swell just a bit more with each thrust and then
suddenly he held me close up against him, buried his head into my shoulder
and shot his load. He bit my shoulder in the process, trying for the life
of him to keep the noise down. He thrust a bit more to ensure that every
drop of his Army seed was deposited into my hole. We stood there for what
seemed like hours, exhausted, euphoric, and hot. I quickly pulled myself
off his love muscle and began to get dressed again. He did the same.
He kissed me gently on the lips and thanked me for the good time. He said
he would look for me again the next time he needed to unload. I was more
than happy to hear I had served him well. We got together a number of
times after that. I found out that he was a drill instructor, married with
two small kids. He said he loved his family, but that a man's butt just had
something he needed.
We are the Borg, your species will be assimilated. Non-compliance is not an option.
We will add your biological and technological
distinctiveness to our own, however your technological distinctiveness will be filtered against our database and monitored.
Every new requirement by the government like this will mean a lot of money to be made by relevent software companies. (And will it stimulate economy?)
it makes me only happy to sit back and watch the US fuck itself over!
;)
;)
you shoulda picked gore.
(oh wait, you did!! hehe)
welp, my bet is $1US to 0.9 euros within 5 years. and it's downhill from there, yankees.
If your don't like this sort of stuff, stop buying (or considering) stuff from Sybase.
And let them know your doing this.
And why.
Under this new law, slashdot is illegal, the FBI is looking for cmdrTaco and Johnkatz right now! Don't forget they are also wanted for homosexual rape and peodphilla!
Of all the animals, the boy is the most unmanageable. -- Plato
It was while I was in the Army, about 24 or 25 years old... a new
lieutenant. To begin with, officers aren't supposed to fraternize with
enlisted, of either sex, PERIOD.
But one time I got drunk in the village (I was stationed in Asia), and came
back to the post before curfew, since I hadn't scored a bar girl. The
enlisted club was hopping, and since I was in civies (civilian clothes), I
blended in with the other horny off-duty youngsters. The band was rocking
better than usual, and the crowd was bigger and more fired up than usual,
even for a weekend.
Shortly after I arrived I went to the head (bathroom) to take a leak,
nothing unusual there. I was bleeding my brakes over the communal urinal,
pretty oblivious to anyone coming or going, and it was dark. About halfway
through the exercise I felt a hand squeeze my right ass cheek, not once but
twice before it registred in my besotted brain. I looked to my right, and
saw this nice looking black kid standing there with his dick out (darn, I
was so drunk I don't even remember what he was doing with it, peeing or
stroking). My first thought was, "COOL", but my next thought was "who's
behind us, or outside the door... WHO IS THIS GUY?" I got it together to
say "Hey man, no thanks", and zipped it up and scurried out.
I didn't really worry about it, and didn't look for him for the next hour
until closing time. In the meantime I picked up a girl and took her back to
the officers barracks, but she started to get loud and snotty, and I
basically threw her out... nicely, to avoid a scene, and escorted her to
the gate.
On the way back I passed the same club, which was now closed and almost
empty... except for the same black kid, standing on the steps watching me
as I came up the path. I didn't turn my eyes away, but didn't stare at him
either.. dunno what he saw in the bathroom that said it was cool to grab my
ass, but when I didn't turn him in I guess he had me down. When I came
abreast of the club entrance he sidled up and walked next to me for a few
seconds, then said something I can't recall exactly, but suggestive. At
that point the bitch was gone, my dick was hard, and this guy looked lean
and tight, so I just said "Yes, let's go to my quarters".
Since officers had single rooms I had some privacy, but we had to be
careful. It was "unofficially" acceptable to have a girl in your room, but
if someone heard a lot of moaning and so forth, and a GUY came out of the
room... bad juju, b'wana. In this case, it was so late we got lucky and
nobody saw us come into the building.
Once we were in the room he must have seen I was a newbie, because he took
over, telling me to strip to my shorts, and he did the same. Once we were
semi-nude he pulled me down on top of him on the bed, and roughly kissed
and fondled me, I was approaching a state of bliss I'd never felt, and he'd
only started. He led us into sucking, 69, rimming, but before long he told
me he wanted to fuck me. I'd only been fucked once since some early
childhood experimentation. I would't have agreed except sucking him had
made me so horny I was in a state of rapture.
He wasted no time, and immediately pushed me down on my back, pulled my
legs up, and positioned his raging hard-on at my hole. He took an extra
minute to hurriedly finger my hole, but ran out of patience and began
pushing the head of his cock past my sphincter muscle... this was in the
70's before HIV, and we didn't bother with a condom. It hurt like a
motherfucker, but he kept sweet-talking me, cradling my head between his
hands while he buried his tongue in my throat, and his erection in my ass.
When the pounding started, I was totally overwhelmed with stimulation...
hehe, not to mention I was probably in an advanced state of alcohol
narcosis. Between rounds of lip-wrestling, I sucked and chewed on his taut
nipples... fringed with fine dark hair, but otherwise he was smooth, like
me. He worked me over for 15 or 20 minutes, though quite honestly time had
stopped so that's just a guess. I remember I wrapped my legs around his
ribs and begged him to fuck me harder and deeper... but the rest is a blur
until he came in my ass, and collapsed on my chest.
He told me I was hot and sexy and we lay there for awhile until he asked me
what I wanted him to do now.. since I was still hard and hadn't cum so far
that night. I asked him for a blow job, and before I knew what was
happening, he dived on my pecker and gobbled it down his throat. There I
was on my back, spread-eagled, getting voracious head from a young black
stud who'd just cum in my hard hot ass... needless to say, I didn't last
long. He took the load in his mouth, licked the spillage off my stomach,
and then pinned me to the bed with his body and stuck his tongue down my
throat. We snuggled for an hour or two until about sunrise, when curfew
lifted. Then he got dressed and left quietly.
IF you geeks stoped having sex with goats then this shit wouldn't happen!
Revolt now - tomorrow you'll be in jail for posession of computer programs anyway.
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Who's Sybase? Do they still make a product? That's what people in CS classes will be asking when they're learning about the history of IT 10 years from now.
What happened to kuro5hin? I can read it. Is it down? please reply, thx.
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While theoretically troubling, this really isn't that horrific. The Federal Government just doesn't have the resources to persecute a lot of people. There have been various reporting requirements on financial transactions for quite a while. These new requirements are not coming out of the blue.
People also tend to forget that we are fighting a war. It's fine to be snide and cynical, but American troops are in combat abroad right now.
That all being said, I doubt these reporting requirements will do much to stop terrorism. The evidence is mounting that our failure to stop past terrorism was not due to a lack of power or resources, but due to ineffective leadership and incompetence. All the information in the world won't help our government agencies who in the past have shown a frightening lack of intelligence.
And I don't trust Ashcroft. He's grandstanding to score political points without actually achieving any worthwhile results. Of all the thousands of suspects rounded up and detained on suspicion of terrorism, only a handful have been charged with anything terrorist related, and all of those charged are pretty much low-level dupes (Lindh, Massaoui (sp?), etc.).
Let's face it, anyone competent enough to pull off a real terrorist attack is also probably competent enough to know about and know how to circumvent these reporting requirements. The only people caught by these new rules will be the stupid and the uninformed, both of which may be up to no good, or more likely just unaware that they are doing anything wrong.
Our country is at war and it is deadly serious. I just wonder if our biggest impediment to victory might be certain political hacks like Ashcroft who now find themselves in positions of unexpected power, with the ability to further agendas beside winning the war on terrorism.
Maybe we all ought to start exercising our Second Amendment rights, which seems to be the only ones he finds sacrosanct.
Come and get me coppers!
(Huh? What's that knocking on the door?) = ^ &
evanchik.net
Although in troubled times restrictions are necessary I fully believe that "In times of emergency, restrictions on the freedom of the individual and imposed in the real or assumed interest of the community. We hold it to be essential that such restrictions be confined to a minimum of clearly specified actions ; that they be understood to be temporary and limited expedients in the nature of a sacrafice ; and that the measures restricting freedom be themseles subject to the free criticism and democratic control . Only thus can we have a reasonable assurance that emergency measures restricting individual freedom will not be degenerate into a permanent tyranny." - sec. 7 of the manifesto of the Congress for Cultural Freedom published in 1951 In was true then and it is true now. The steps of government and corporations that seek to influence the gov be be in the light, and not hidden, espically under the guise of "protecting the people". Peace folks,
There is no good or bad, but thinking makes it so. -Hamlet
And for the record, this is not a troll or offtopic. I am illustrating the hypocrisy that the editors show when they complain about systems that are non-transparent when their own system is much the same.
Just remember people... Under the new act, anyone who speaks out against Bush will be branded a terrorist & monitored....
Scared yet?
The CIA etc already had enough power to stop sept 11th, they just didn't care... They were even warned 3 weeks before hand by the British!
The PATRIOT act has NOTHING to do with terrorism - it's just about controlling what you do by paranoia and FUD. Bush wanted to spy on *YOU*, not anyone else or he'd have made it a foreign policy, not a domestic one.
p.s. To americans: Regardless of what you read, there aren't thousands of terrorist plots against you... The government are leading you on, so you'll take whatever they want to give you next... Now bend over and take it like a good patriot... go on... It won't hurt... much.
Sybase isn't putting this in because they feel it's the next big thing from their marketing department. They are offering it because Dubya decreed via the USA PATRIOT act that institutions *have* to do this sort of thing. Sybase are only responding to a government created market.
I am Slashdot. Are you Slashdot as well?
What country is the U.S.A. "at war" with?
The functionality advertised should already of been part of Sybase, which leads me to wonder if it's actually any good in terms of security.
No doubt, Ballmer will make Windows Patriot compliant, and score political brownie points in doing so.
This is another factor to taking away our democracy, people, do you see it yet?
"Dubya decreed via the USA PATRIOT act..."
Um, it was passed by Congress. That's the House of Representatives and the Senate. The President then signed it into Law.
You really should learn about how the U.S. Government works before making assertions that are false.
Hasn't been a decree in the U.S. since George III (although FDR came close a couple of times.)
I'm not saying the Patriot Act is a good thing. I think some of it is stupid, illegal and downright sleazy. It was NOT, however, passed by fiat.
The opposite of progress is congress
Much of what has been done has been done to disrupt terrorist support networks. Money, training and housing. Without these the terrorists will have a much harder time. If you read detailed accounts of what terrorists went through on their way from teenager to terrorist it becomes evident that support networks were in place across the world for at least a decade.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon, Marshal of France - speaking truth to power
Reading this and putting the 'vision' (if you can call it that) of the USA's government in perspective, you start to wonder why the USA still are calling themselves "Leader of the Free World". Must be a different definition of 'Free' than I have...
Never underestimate the relief of true separation of Religion and State.
Mod parent up
Is this an attempt at packaging software that either automatically includes Carnivor, or allows for the virus-like installation program "Magic Lamp" (which was finaly admitted by the Gov'mint to exist) without it triggerering virus alerts?
Let me guess. Any american with nothing to hide wont object to PATRIOT? Only terrorists should fear carnivor? Wonder just how much hype will be issued?
The government is good, it is god
Report your family's crimes.
The State is all powerful
Report your friend's crimes.
Resistance is Futile
Report your neighbor's crimes.
Privacy is UNAMERICAN
Pay no attention to the face scanning spy cameras in your neighborhood.
Open source is TERRORISM
Your crimes won't need to be reported. The SWAT team is already on the way.
Corporatism != Free Market
The American government will not, indeed cannot, actively monitor the terabytes of data this act will generate. They are far too busy just trying to keep their collective heads above water. Ten years of "peace dividend" has taken its toll in staff reductions, atrophied skills, no operations, and no training. Do you remember the mid 90s when several U.S. congressmen questioned whether we even needed the CIA and other intelligence organizations?
I expect that the resulting database will not useful for finding terrorists in real time. However, once a suspected terrorist is known by other means, be it hours, days, weeks, or months later, they will be able to search through the data for his or her trail to provide proof or refutation, as appropriate. Better yet, the search should also show the tie-ins to the others of a terrorist's organization so we can pursue the whole lot.
This kind of trade-off between increasing security at the price of privacy is a good one, IMO, and has has commonly been made in times of war for at least the last 200 years. That said, the trade-off is still a risk. We must remain vigilant and pick our government leaders carefully so that those in power will dismantle the process when the threat is over. It could otherwise become the means of terrible abuse.
Magna est veritas et praevalebit.
(Mighty is the truth, and it will prevail)
English -- gotta love it! / The engineers refuse to refuse the rocket until the refuse is removed from the launch pad.
While theoretically troubling, this really isn't that horrific.
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No? Your anti-terrorism is investigating a guy for fraud right now as we speak. FRAUD.
The reason why people were afraid about the Patriot Act is that it uses nebulous definitions about what is or is not terrorism. The reason why people were afraid about THAT is because it gives so-called anti-terrorism squads carte blanche to do anything to anyone so long as they're quick enough to find ANY POSSIBLE LINK to terrorism. At this point, if you're of a specific nationality then any crime you commit makes you a potential terrorist.
This should frighten the living crap out of you.
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People also tend to forget that we are fighting a war. It's fine to be snide and cynical, but American troops are in combat abroad right now.
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Our country is at war and it is deadly serious.
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Maybe, but not the war you think. For all its rhetoric America is the one who is at war with freedom.
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I just wonder if our biggest impediment to victory might be certain political hacks like Ashcroft who now find themselves in positions of unexpected power, with the ability to further agendas beside winning the war on terrorism.
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Or political hacks like Bush, who appointed the guy, and who coincidentally named those Axis-of-Evil countries (despite the fact that the vast majority of the Sept 11th terrorists didn't come from one of those countries) and who coincidentally is trying to make everybody belive that Saddam Hussein is the next big target in the War on Terror despite the fact that he had nothing to do with what the War on Terror is all about.
This is much bigger than McCashcroft. This is a problem that starts all the way at the top.
Methinks its all just overkill, given that 9/11 seems to have been caused by some very basic oversights* rather than high-level terrorist subtlety.
* BTW, I doubt any amount of reshuffling is going to fix this. Methinks the FBI and CIA should be run more like the millitary. Leaders need to be held accountable. If anything bad happens on their watch, or if any over their subordinates screw up, they should be punished.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Your ISP realizes that the Fed has a gun pointed at their head. It's only natural that they hand over their wallet and carkeys. Thanks to wonderful campaign finance reform law that restrict the first amendment so that only the lapdog press can "fight back", ISP's have no other choice but to lie down and take it. That goes for the users as well.
I'm sure he'd kick an ass or two,
That's what Brian Boitano'd do. . .
from the sybase announcement:
The potential for abuse here is incredible. Meanwhile, our institutions of research and higher education are ready to do their part to help the U.S. government digest all of this lovely information: National Academies: Universities to play key roles in response to terrorism
Most of the measures mentioned in that article seem reasonable, but I'm worried about the "data mining" initiative. If you can mine data looking for "terrorists," you can mine for just about anything else, such as potential political opposition.
Also consider: given the plethora of intricate financial disclosure requirements, a list of one's political opponents and vast mountains of data available for mining, it would be no trouble at all to neutralize the opposition.
Imagine what the dirty tricksters of the Nixon administration could have done with a system like "PATRIOT".
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Manifesto for the Peoples of the Third Millennium
all your sybase are belong to us!
I'm sick and tired of hearing you rant that PATRIOT takes away freedoms, makes us faschists, etc. IT DOESN'T. The US is trying to destroy an evil terrorist group that threatens our livelihood. The PATRIOT act may have some clauses you don't like, but you forgot the part that says you need a COURT ORDER to be able to execute anything under PATRIOT.
Now, to be a bit on topic, this is a waste of time. They don't need extra software to help in the war against terror. Why not extract the data from their current databases with some Perl scripts?
Slashdot is a waste of time. I enjoy wasting time.
So all this financial snooping actually does have some terrorism implications.
War is Peace
Ignorance is Strength
Freedom is Slavery
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I didn't want to leave this space blank.
I didn't see it listed anywhere, but I did find:
And on Sybase's Compliance Approach page I find:
Bold emphases mine, of course.
For an innocent system there's quite a lot of room for abuse of power, don't you think? Secrets lists and investigations are the kind of things that give Hitler-wannabes woodrow.
You are correct that the Patriot Act doesn't make us faschists. It makes us sheep. We all know what happens to sheep when the farmer doesn't think anyone's watching. Do you really think the US Gov will be any different?
nuclear presidential echelon assassination encryption virulent strain
Whizzmo
I think we all know who knocked down the towers.
Does anyone forget that his daddy has been funding
terrorists for decades?
Who's presidency was in question when he was suddenly
give great approval ratings? Coincidence? It's not a
conspiracy who is behind all this, it's public knowledge.
Face it, our president hates his own people, he's only
done things to make things more expensive for us so he
and his buddies can get even more rich and powerful than they all
ready are. You want to go fight a 'war' go ahead sucker and
die for that oil baron. He won't mourn you. Look how
he treated his good buddies at Enron. And this guy talks about courage,
the old fighter pilot flying away right after 9-11.
Sad, stupid, suckers.
"Non-compliance is not an option"
Is that the same as Resistance is Futile?
Permits the government to label groups as "terrorist" without proof or procedural safeguards.
Expands agents' authority to secretly enter homes and offices during criminal investigations and search, take photos, and download computer files.
Allows the FBI wide latitude to wiretap and spy on activists' phones, faxes, and e-mails.
Provides for indefinite detention of noncitizens.
It's bad. For the record, I agree with what's been said in the higher moderated comments about the U.S. becoming a police state. It is.
And we are not at war.
Except for the war on the Constitution. That's more real than their war on drugs, or terrorism.
anyway... A few cities, Portland, Oregon, Denver, and Ann Arbor, Michigan, are opposing the PATRIOT Act. Others haven't officially done so but are refusing to participate in the screenings their police departments have been asked to do. People are standing up to this and seeing it for the unconstitutional nightmare that it is.
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him!"
- George W. Bush, September 13, 2001
(how'd he know who was responsible so soon, hmm? hmm....)
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
-- haaz.
What I want to know is why every little bump on the road in the entire fucking world classifies as a "Your rights online" - but slashdot doesn't even bother to discuss the whole TIPS program in America where we're going to generate the largest citizen informant system in the history of the world, trumping the stasi, nazi's and everyone else.
THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ [slashdot.org]
:) Join me in a WIPO-snot?
By J. Wipo Troll, Esq. [slashdot.org], $Revision: 1.16 $
[This article attempts to document a vile, ungodly practice that runs rampant through the homosexual geek and hacker community, a practice known as âoeTaco-snotting,â or simply âoesnotting.â Taco-snotting is something that few geeks dare talk about in free or open conversation, but it is nonetheless a widely-practiced and dangerous form of homosexuality. If you or anyone you know has ever engaged in Taco-snotting, please get professional help [adequacy.org] before it is too late. â"ed.]
Why do I keep receiving emails from an individual calling himself âoeCmdrTacoâ?
You have been receiving unsolicited mailings from a certain Robert âoeCmdrTacoâ Malda [cmdrtaco.net], owner of the popular technology website slashdot.org [slashdot.org]. Actually, itâ(TM)s not a very âoepopularâ site in the common sense of the word; the site is rife with pimply, antisocial geeks and hackers, zit-faced nerds, communists, dirty GNU hippies [yahoo.com], and other societal rejects and outcasts. Itâ(TM)s also home to one of the worldâ(TM)s largest suspected pædophile rings, the infamous âoeSlashdot crew.â
Whenever Mr. Malda gets bored (and who wouldnâ(TM)t, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the user database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual activities with him. How he determines this is anyoneâ(TM)s guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with a letter of the English alphabet in it, youâ(TM)re a potential candidate.
This time, he found you. Lucky you.
Mr. Malda seems to be speaking in some sort of code. Do you know what it means?
CmdrTacoâ(TM)s code language is relatively easy to decipher. This pervert prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo (yes, thatâ(TM)s right: he wants you) to evade the watchful eye of Slashdotâ(TM)s parent corporation, VA Software [yahoo.com]. Mr. Maldaâ(TM)s âoeCommanderâ is, of course, his penis: a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants and only comes out in the presence of other male geeks or at the beck and call of Maldaâ(TM)s own lubed-up right hand. His âoeTaco bells [sonymusic.com]â are the shriveled testicles that droop beneath his Commander, and his âoeTaco sauceâ is his thin, runny semen. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means if he asked you to âoering his Taco bellsâ or âoetaste his gourmet Taco sauce.â
I would also guess CmdrTaco asked you to engage in a practice known as âoeTaco-snottingâ and, if he was in a particularly depraved mood at the time, a âoecircle-snot.â
Good Lord. And, yes, he did. What is âoeTaco-snottingâ?
âoeTaco-snottingâ is the term used by Robert Malda to refer to the depraved act of fellating another man (homo- or heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumoured to prefer raping unwilling victims), then blowing the semen out his nose and back onto the face and body of his victim. Naturally, a long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTacoâ(TM)s face [go.com], dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, âoeTaco-snotting.â
And if thatâ(TM)s not bad enoughâ¦
A âoecircle-snotâ is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew [bastardgenres.com]. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel [aol.com], and Homos get together and snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum â" spooging their jizz-snot all over each otherâ(TM)s faces and pasty, white bodies, until theyâ(TM)re covered head to toe with their own and each otherâ(TM)s man juice. This vile, ungodly ritual can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limousine service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.
To complete this perverted orgy, fellow faggots Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The homosexual shenanigans that follow are nearly beyond description. The whole group begins to snot each otherâ(TM)s spunk and whip each otherâ(TM)s pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.
Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?
Hopefully, but I wouldnâ(TM)t count on it.
To begin with, you most likely forgot to uncheck the âoeWilling to Snotâ checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad (do you have a homosexual-sounding nick?), and heâ(TM)s probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube, just waiting to pounce and declare you his new bitch. Thereâ(TM)s no escaping a geek in heat (trust me), so itâ(TM)s probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTacoâ(TM)s sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to âoeWilling to Snot.â Maybe heâ(TM)ll ignore you. Probably not.
I canâ(TM)t stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?
If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, hemight leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge⦠oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot all over you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).
Have you ever been Taco-snotted?
Unfortunately, yes. I first met Mr. Malda at an Open Source Convention [amazon.com]. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some âoegourmet Tacos,â but when I got there, the perverted geek jumped me and handcuffed me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his âoeCommanderâ out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times, virtually nonstop. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm⦠then he snotted my own thick, gooey jizz back onto my face out of his nostrils! He snotted me two more times, first into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.
CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, âoeOpen Sauceâ â" man sauce) buddies over to continue their ungodly snotfest. European hacker and known überfaggot Linux Torvalds raped my ass [yahoo.com] with his âoemonolithic kernel [yahoo.com];â his partner-in-crime Anal Cox used their âoenetwork stackâ in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice of my defenseless, tender, young body. Michael Sims was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my previously-virginal ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about âoeall those Censorware [spectacle.org] freaks out to get him.â
That is so disgusting! How did you finally escape?
After about 16 hours of countless unholy, homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, completely covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant â" I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door (of the apartment, not their back doors). Iâ(TM)m just glad I survived the awful ordeal. These sexually-repressed hackers had alot of built-up spunk in their wads â" I couldâ(TM)ve easily been drowned!
Thatâ(TM)s horrible. Does âoeTaco-snottingâ have anything to do with CmdrTacoâ(TM)s âoespecial tacoâ?
No, thatâ(TM)s a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. Mr. Malda is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll [slashdot.org] has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership [slashdot.org] about this vile practice (emphasis added):
You may be wondering what CmdrTacoâ(TM)s âoespecial tacoâ is. You will be wishing that you hadnâ(TM)t been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his âoespecial taco,â CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, takes out his tiny withered dick (otherwise known as his âoeCommanderâ), puts his âoespecial taco sauceâ on it which means he jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim. After all, who would knowingly eat shit and CmdrTacoâ(TM)s jizz?
After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTacoâ(TM)s nefarious homosexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victimâ(TM)s ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved. Trust me, you do not want Jon Katz anywhere near your unconscious body. Also, rumor has it CmdrTaco is looking for a new goatse.cx guy [goatse.cx]. Donâ(TM)t let it be you!
Different ungodly perversion, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that Robert âoeCmdrTacoâ Malda is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.
Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a pædophile, not a homosexual.
Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual pædophile. Heâ(TM)s also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Mr. Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesnâ(TM)t involve himself in the circle-snots, but that doesâ(TM)t mean heâ(TM)s any less of a freak than the rest of the Slashdot crew. Katz often engages in a game called âoejuicy-douching [aol.com]â with a harem of little-boy slaves that he has collected over the years: yet another vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boyâ(TM)s urine (forced out of them with a pair of pincers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then dribbling and slathering the goo all over himself and the boyâ(TM)s chained, naked bodies. If heâ(TM)s in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag from his distended anus and just squirt it from his ass [microsoft.com] onto the crying, terrified boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pincers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them at will. A boy will usually last about two years before Mr. Katz either accidentally drowns them in diarrhea or kills them once they get too old, usually around 13 or 14.
Not content with being a pædophilic coprophile, Mr. Katz is also quite the zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys arenâ(TM)t enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goatâ(TM)s anus [yahoo.com]. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goatâ(TM)s small, bean-like turds, and he often kills his older boys by letting his goats trample them.
â¦Are you getting hard writing this?
Why, yes.
No, thanks. Iâ(TM)m already CmdrTacoâ(TM)s boi toi.
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I don't see any of the quoted text in the article...Is this guy quoting the article itself or just his interpretation?
--- Robert Strickland
All your base are belong to us
13 year old white supremacists are shitty web designers.
Both Gore and Bush wants Big Government, but maybe for different reasons.
I am always amazed at how americans time and again are using the word "liberal" to describe "non-conservative" or "socialliberal". This is ofcourse not right. A liberal is a liberal, and Gore (or Bush for that matter) is not a liberal in the true sense of the word. A liberal seeks a minimal government and maximum of individual rights and freedoms.
One thing is for sure, the terrorists aren't hiding in my house, I never met one, I don't even remotely resemble one, have no use for one, and would shoot one on sight if one entered my property. It's no one's fscking biz what I do, what I buy, where I earn my money or how much I earn because it's *MY* money, I am the one that breaks my back in the hot, hot sun and no one comes out to help me or offer me a cool drink so I'm not sharing *MY* money with anyone. It's no one's fscking biz what websites I browse or what I talk about to my friends. I'm an American and I am at war with those that would rob me of my privacy, my right to free speech, my right to be secure in my home and my papers, and my right to defend my self against those that would deny me those rights. We are looking down the barrel of a Stasi government. This spy on your neighbor shit, spy on your spending, spy on your habits shit is too much. Will your postman mark your name down in his little notepad because he see you get a magazine or newsletter that *HE* deems to be subversive? Or your meter reader man peering in your windows and sees your workbench and reports you for having "suspicious looking" materials, devices and tools in your home? What would those items be? Hmmmmm, he has a computer! That could be a terrorist weapon! Uh oh! He has EIGHT computers in one room! he must be hosting a terrorist network! This is Fing too much. This *IS* 1984. We all have an appointment in room 101.
Fact: This legistaltion (Patriot Act) is not designed to affect Joe Average Citizen PERIOD, as far as banking is concerned.
There is, as Sybase stated (quite correctly), a well defined list of entities with whom financial institutions can not deal with. The list is VERY small (being an employee of a trading company, I get compliance lists in company-wide e-mail virtually every week).
Fact: In part, this regulation is designed with the same purpose as "Have you ever been member of nazis/Communist party?" question on INS forms. Its purpose is NOT to stop ex-nazis from entering US (who'd say the truth answering that question?), but to give INS legal ground to deport ex-nazis once they are found out, for lying on INS form. The same way, US Patriot act allows US govt. to go after any financial institution which does help terrorists financially and lies about it.
Fact: the Sybase software is there simply to make sure that Joe Schmoe Bank Programmer who codes trading systems doesn't have to break their brains trying to find out a way to help his company comply with the legistaltion. So don't go bashing Sybase for trying to make a buck solving an actual problem requiring programming solution. Bash them for having Fsck-ed up isql if you want to find a real reson to yell at them. <g>
-DVK
"The right to figure things out for yourself is the only true freedom everyone shares. Go use it"-R.A.Heinlein
Jesus (if he wasn't dead) would tell all these WWJD morons to shut the fuck up and make up their own minds.
I'm sorry sir, your papers arent in order. You and your family will have to be "relocated".
USA is turning into a Paranoid, over-controlling goverment...the exact traits seen in Soviet Communist goverments.
What's wrong with isql?
(Serious question)
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