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Interview with MusicNet Chief
prostoalex writes "Alan McGlade, chief of MusicNet, which sells subscriptions to its digital music catalog, talks about his view of digital music market, expectations and life in general."
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What with this and PressPlay, the options seem a bit limited. They try to prevent you from burning songs etc etc. If your subscription runs out all your songs are now worthless.
People will find a way around it, once it enters "meatspace" (i.e. the air) it can be recorded on a non DRM medium.
Why do they keep trying to screw both the end users and the artists - I think it is time for a revolution within the recording industry...Let's sort this out once and for all!
Most people when they move into a house will hook up cable and pay for it, right?
... 2 CDs? Not the best comparison I'd say.
Riiight. At $40/month I'm willing to pay for cable, that buys me about
Never argue with an idiot, he'll just lower you to his level and beat you with experience.
This violates our civil liberties, plain and simple. See the following for more information.
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If they people can't make money, no one will make music. Making great music takes BIG money, that's why CDs cost $20+. You all seem to think music just comes out of thin air.
How many subscribers do you hope to have in a year?
I don't give out subscription numbers.
Translation: We don't have that many. It's embarassing.
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It's been said before, but I'll say it again: www.emusic.com has it right.
$15 or $10/month (depending on whether you sign up for 3 months or a year), for
all-you-can eat, no digital "rights" managment, mp3 format music.
You believe the cable analogy will apply to music downloads?
I could see a similar thing happening in the music space. What's the business model of Kazaa or Morpheus? How will they make money to support being around long term if the idea is to steal it and give it away for free? And for the average person, you see more spoofing where files were named the same thing, but it wasn't an actual Eminem song, or it was just a couple seconds of it. And the file quality isn't consistent, the directories sometimes are wrong, you get viruses. If we actually offer a product that is extremely convenient, seamless to use, the file quality is guaranteed, the download times are optimised, and it comes with lots of other unique features that make a seamless experience. Would people be willing to pay for that? Absolutely. Over time will it marginalise pirate services? I think so.
Is this guy serious. He likens music trading to the cable tv industry where the value added services provided by cable over tv (better quality signal, improved channel guides, more content, etc) can be provided by his service to cause people to convert from pirating mp3s. First of all, I do not see how he expects to create anything better than mp3 because of the sheer entrenchment that this format has. The quality out there is the generally 128kbit which is not necessarily the greatest but the general populace decided that it was the best bitrate for them. Be it speed of download or that audiophiles aren't all that plentiful. The reasoning does not matter. It simply means that people have already decided what format they want.
McGlade is never going to provide enough value added services in my opinion to actual sway most of the people out there. I believe that the best the music industry can hope for is that people who listen to mp3s enjoy them enough to purchase the albums. He can't provide more content since all the popular songs are the ones distributed on the p2p systems. He might have a chance with the less popular ones.
Channel guides have an interesting correlation. If they can make it easier for people to find songs they enjoy listening to then they may be able to get people to subscribe just to find more songs they enjoy. People will pay for that service. They will not however pay extra for "untethered" (non-DRM media).
my 2c
Until someone gets a universal database that works, with per-song pricing, I don't think anyone will budge.
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Why did /. even both with this one? The guy's just repeating the party line. Check some quotes:
Just like it wouldn't be hard to run a store where you just put everything on the shelves and people could just take what they want. You wouldn't stay in business very long, but it wouldn't be hard to do.
Confusing tangible property with music? That's the same mistake the record companies are making. You won't come up with any creative business models like that. In fact you'll come up with some pretty bad ones.
If somebody comes to our service and is looking for a song and they can't find it [...] they will now be forced off to a peer-to-peer site.
Forced to a peer-to-peer site? They are ALREADY on the peer-to-peer sites! What can you offer to "force" them to your site?
Well, I don't think you compete [with p2p], but you do create a service that has its own value.
Err, that's called "competing"..? I guess he assumes the p2p sites will all be shut down by the RIAA at some point.
What's the business model of Kazaa or Morpheus? How will they make money to support being around long term if the idea is to steal it and give it away for free?
If these guys can't make money, someone else will fill their shoes. Same as you, bucko. Better figure out how! And it's not "stealing" it's "copying".
[Everything MP3 already does just fine] are all things we have to do. But like I said, it's an evolution. You have to be able to download files permanently, burn them to CDs, transfer them to devices, use them on several computers, or else transfer them to other devices that can store and play back music. All those things will have to be part of that process.
Man, what is it with these guys. They think they are just wiping the slate clean and starting from scratch. What's the "evolution"? MP3 ALREADY DOES WHAT PEOPLE WANT. Do you understand?
MP3 files can be easily copied if they're not wrapped with any digital rights management. But if you have a DRM wrapper on an MP3 file, it wouldn't be readily accessible. It would have some restrictions in its use. You have streaming [...] which do have a DRM wrapper. So while you can download a file and listen to it, you'll be able to do various things with it.
Those sentences make absolutely no sense.. is he drunk??
And then you have what we call permanent downloads. In that case, you've actually purchased a track. Even if you no longer are a subscriber you can continue to use the music as you want because you purchased it.
Cool! Your service offers the same functionality as wax cylinders from 1895. Sign me up!
Digital/online music is all about making it easy for people to do the right thing!
No way would I sign up for some service where all my music could vanish if I miss a monthly payment! Neither would I sign up for some service which locked the music ONLY in my laptop and ONLY allowed me to play it under cirumstances that the RIAA deems acceptable!
The reason that online music has not fullfilled on it's promise so far is not because of the software isn't good enough or because no company has been managed well enough, it's because of greed on the part of the studio's. I'ts intimated in the story too....
As a consumer, I want lower prices overall, and I want more of the percentage going to the artist. I'm fed up with paying $15.99 for CD's while the RIAA gripes that they are being "ripped off". They are the one's ripping the artists off. I'd double again their percentage ( from $0.50 per CD to $1.50) if the industry produced a $9.99 CD. I'd pay $9.99 if it ment that I could download once and have rights to burn a spare for my car. The RIAA would save A BUNDLE under such a model, no physical media until my house, so RIAA pays almost nothing for distribution. I'd pay it because it's the right thing and because it's easier than driving over to the music store...
Problem is, they want more.....MUCH more!....RIAA want's to control HOW you listen...how often you listen, what equipment you listen on...they want to turn music into a "Pay-per-hear" system...(pay for home, pay again for car...pay again for friends house...pay each time you listen...etc)....Like the DVD, they also want to control what country you can listen in....I'm fundamently opposed to such a system, once I pay...it's mine to listen anywhere I am....I have lifetime rights to listen.....
Then there's the issue of "first sale" and RIAA's desire to get in on the used CD market.....charge twice for the same product...you no longer have rights that you would have with books....
I'm guessing that businesses like this (pressplay, music-net, etc) will exist only in the "shadow" for a while yet....the Record industry is not ready to turn anyone with a real business model loose yet....they are too busy hedging their bets right now.....I'm guessing that this outfit doesn't even have a long term contract to the music that they do stock for download. I'm guessing that it could be revoked in an instant if the studios wanted to...then they'd be out of business....and I've paid money for DRM with a company that doesn't exist anymore and rights which are not going to be honored by anyone....
I'll keep ripping and burning my own until the RIAA/Labels give me an alternative that I can accept....if not a better value, at least one that keeps the status-quo...
After years of collecting CD's many in my collection are so scratched that no matter what audio ripper I use, I can't get a decent .wav to encode from (poor poor Portishead), to bad there wasn't an initiative to enable people that own these CD's to be able to download the content of those albums free of charge through software verification. But then of course your buddy would ask you to borrow your CD so he could do the same. But I'm sure something could be done.
Well? It isn't.
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Slashdot is loosing it. This guy is a no name looser. I've never heard of him, and the next guy you will interview is my garbage man. This is getting ridiculous. We need better guests.. This is an international site.
What exactly is the point of logging in? So I can be subject to "karma" and "modding" and the rest of Malda's bullshit? No thanks.
The same is not true for radio "programs", which normally shuffle schedules around and talk over songs
Except for talk radio. Perhaps the pop music radio stations do, but NPR and other talk radio networks generally don't. Recording "All Things Considered" or "Dr. Laura" is what the "radio TiVo" devices are designed for.
Will I retire or break 10K?
Making great music takes BIG money, that's why CDs cost $20+.
CDs cost $20 not because of production costs but because of Clear Channel's near-monopoly on bandwidth into a moving vehicle. Clear Channel Communications Inc. controls both XM and FM radio in many markets, through "independent" promoters who charge exorbitant fees for getting a recording aired.
How much does it cost for a tracker, a wave editor, a couple sample CDs, and a brain?
Will I retire or break 10K?
Why do you think KaZaA and Morheus uses tonnes of banners and KaZaA has spyware? With over 100 Million downloads of KaZaA I don't think they has a problem getting money. They will only not make money if they loose it in law suits. And that doesn't even consider open source software like Gnucleus on the Gnutella network that is perfectly happy producing free software for all to use.
On a side note with the introduction of Super Peers for the Gnutella network I think it works as well as KaZaA, it just needs more users.
but where are my freakin' kittens?!?
I want cute and cuddly, like KDE3 (With the glow theme) or OS X or
at least a reference to the God's best creation -- Kittens. Instead I get
a boring interview with a person almost no one cares about.
Please Slashdot, realize that Linux needs more kittens!
This comment should be considered the online equivalent of my hot semen spurting onto your face and hair.
This is why we need to encourage popular and/or talented artists to fight the system. Aside from instrument and recording costs, distributing CDs via an online store or allowing song downloads at $1.00 a piece isn't really all that costly.
I could honestly see Radiohead or TMBG doing something like this in the future. Who knows, with the way Michael Jackson is acting in his current smear campaign against Sony Music, perhaps even the big-name pop artists will ditch the record companies some day. However, this won't happen until the corporations stop "blowing" the radio DJs (sorry for the crude analogy) to make them play their artists' songs 17 times a day.
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1) What about lyrics distributed along with the song?
Many bands already give these away for free; if not, you can usually type a few key words of the lyrics into Google and get an unauthorized lyrics page. In fact, that's how I look up artist and title so I can preview a recording on winmx before I head over to cdnow to buy it.
Videos anybody?
Not very many people have cable or DSL yet. Few college students at home over summer break have broadband because the 1-year minimum service contract makes it cost four times as much as it does to anybody else.
Will I retire or break 10K?
Such a powerful mental image.
The argument used constantly on /. (and elsewhere) is, "I'd rather send my money to the artist, than to the RIAA..." Great!
Do you?
Do you go to that artist's website and buy a CD directly from them? Do you send them a check every time you nab a song off of gnutella? When your pal burns a copy of "The Greatest Hits of God's Favorite Band", do you send some $$$ to the guys?
If you do, excellent. You are avoiding the Recording Industry that will screw a band over for breakfast, and laugh over lunch at how an A&R rep has "this band by the short hairs...". You are helping to end an Industry that doesn't care what YOU want, only what they can market to you.
You are supporting artists who have incurred expense to bring their music to you.
They wrote it, arranged it, taught it to the band, rehearsed it, changed it, rehearsed some more, played it at a dive for $25 and two beers each, rehearsed some more, went into a studio, paid an engineer to roll knobs, move faders, and lay it on tape. They listed to it, rehearsed the vocals, and overdubs. They went back into the studio, paid the engineer some more to get that on tape. The engineer mixed it, gave it to the band, remixed parts again, mastered it to DAT or CD. They sent it to a duplication house, they paid to have artwork done, (saved money by doing some themselves), they purchased 1000 CDs. They paid to have a website hosted, (saved a little by doing their own site), drove all over consigning CDs at record stores (small independents). They played some more shows for 50 bucks each (show. not per member), they paid the soundman 50 bucks.
Repeat every year and a half.
This is just a taste of what an average unsigned band goes through to get music "out there". There are many exceptions to this example. Some can record at home on "lo-fi" equipment. Some never rehearse. Some don't play shows. Some release everything on gnutella for the hell of it. Some try to get you interested in their CD in this manner.
Add label interest and, well, look at the links below. The point being made is: Good music is hard to find for a reason. Being a GOOD musician (not to mention songwriter) is one of the toughest (and thankless) jobs ever! The artists who go though the trouble to bring this to you should be rewarded. After all, they could have just sat in the basement writing and performing for themselves, not worried about "how is this record going to do?". The next time you grab a tune off the net, think for a moment. If you actually sent your favorite artist some money for the work that you enjoy, that artist will be able to make more music. Finally, a win win situation.
Unfortunately, artists represnted by the Industry are in a different boat altogether. For some real examples of what it costs the major label band to be a major label band, see here, here, and here. Additional info here (my fav)
Yup. What was I talking about? That's right.
My fucking asshole neighbors keep me up every fucking night with their goddamn motherfucking music. If you nerds can put an end to music I will get down on my knees and give each and every one of you a nice big sloppy blowjob.
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viruses? in an mp3? Quick someone tell McAfee to update their jpeg virus scanner!
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exactly, I was pointing out that he really does compete directly with p2p even though he asserts otherwise..and there are plenty of things they can do beyond what p2p gives you now, such as reliable downloading and giving new recommendations based on what you're downloading so you can find new music.
But instead it seems they want to destroy all existing p2p and start from scratch, with less functionality than what p2p has now, instead of building on it.
MP3 files can be easily copied if they're not wrapped with any digital rights management. But if you have a DRM wrapper on an MP3 file, it wouldn't be readily accessible."
You must be kidding me. MP3 files can be easily copied no matter what you do to them. No matter how much you polish a turd, it's still a turd, right? Well, let's see. I right-click my MP3 file. I click "Copy". I right-click in another folder. I click "Paste". Well, I sure seem to have copied it!
"...the file quality isn't consistent, the directories sometimes are wrong, you get viruses."
So the file quality isn't consistent. But what the hell, it's fun using sound tools to change the bit rates so they're all the same. No, seriously, it's fun.
Directories sometimes wrong? Well, that's hardly a problem with the actual software, is it? If people do go around sticking up the entire hard disk drives so I can download their CVs and address books...
Viruses. Hm. Since when did downloading an MP3 give me a virus? Even if you do download executables, you can always stick it through the ol' virus scanner. You do have a virus scanner, right?
"What's your time line for making this service a success?
It's years.
But do you have years, though?
Sure... If we can show forward momentum and steady progress and continue to do all the things that I've been describing...then, yes, we do have some time. Time is required to build a long term, sustainable business and become mass market with online distribution of music in a legal way."
Don't delude yourself. You think you have a few years? Well, we've all seen what can happen in a few short years. Back in 1992, there weren't millions of people on p2p networks sharing music, warez, and pr0n. Fast forward a decade...
And online distribution of music in a legal way? Well, you don't seem to be going about it in the right way.
If I buy a CD, I have the music forever. You can't take it away from me once you take my cash.
If I buy one of these "MusicNet" MP3s, then I have to keep paying for the music, and if I don't, it's taken away from me with no refund? And even if I get a "permanent download", I still have to pay as much overall as if I just bought the actual CD?
What would you use?
Note to M1-ers: a curt but otherwise insightful message is not "Flamebait" or "Troll".
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I am a musician too. It costs me tons of money for strings, etc., blah blah blah just like everything you said. But I play because I LOVE TO PLAY, I love to express myself, I love to perform for others and make them happy and watch them dance. I love to create. I love to play alone sometimes -- gently, sweetly & just for myself. People ask me all the time why I don't go pro & make money from the whole thing. Well, that would suck. Then it would be a job. If there's anything I've learned in this life is that when something loved becomes something that *must be done*, a lot of the magic drifts away.
The greatest performers I have ever seen, have been amateurs. Some of the worst performers have been trying to make a living at it.
Look up the history of that word. (hint, it doesn't mean someone who isn't good).
I have a real job. I'm into music for love, not money. When I play, the sentiment in the sound is obvious. Maybe that's the main reason why so much music lately has just sucked? That most of the folks that end up being recorded have lost their PASSION. Or maybe they never had it in the first place but just look good on video?
I dissagree that a monitary reward is what these artists have earned. Having people listen to your music should be reward enough for any artist. I love music, a lot. I love it enough to invest hours of my time listening to it every day. I do not however, attach a money value to it. Music is information, it doesn't play well in our system designed to deal with physical goods.
If you want to earn money, there are a lot easier ways to do it than making music. If you want to be known and respected, then music is the place to be. Case in point, look at the software engnieer that makes 90k a year, but gets treated like a horses ass. Then look at the musician who has his song pirated 10,000 times a day on gnutella. Who would you rather be? And if you say the engnieer then I've lost respect for you as an artist, and wouldn't pay for your shallow corporate music anyway.
I think it's time to re-evaluate the "value" of music. Of course it's worth something. That something just doesn't happen to be money.
Will this service work the same way as commercial radio, you will only get the songs from the artist which the record company thinks are worth promoting? (i.e crap)
I took a fast look at what they had to offer, and as alternative music they had: Gorillaz, Fatboy Slim, Red Hot Chili Peppers and some more. Not what I call "alternative" more mainstream music.
Well, I'm never going to subscribe to one of these services unless they have som alternatives to the britney spears music.
They're experimenting with that, as are others. And this has become a much more active conversation now about how to sell single tracks or entire albums online.
But I mean they're selling MP3s. They're selling files that aren't tethered at all for 99 cents a download.
Right, that's a permanent download."
Huh. Anyone know what that's about or have any URL? That sounds like something that would actually be remotely interesting.
This guy obviously doesn't know his enemy.
"the file quality is guaranteed,"
That's odd, all the P2P clients I've ever used told me the quality in number of hosts. Most P2P users don't intentionally host crap.
"the download times are optimised,"
And P2P clients also tell you the connection speed of a host. To optimize the download time, get the file from that guy with the T1.
"What's the business model of Kazaa or Morpheus? How will they make money to support being around long term if the idea is to steal it and give it away for free?"
The business model is to take cash from spyware vendors in exchange for sneaking their spyware into the client.
Of course, for an open-source client like Gnucleus, the point is to make music available, not to make money, which renders his argument moot.
And that is why P2P will outlast paid music: As long as there's open-source authors who want a P2P client, they will get it.
The world can be wrong today for once.
But surely pleasure is one of the most valuable things there is? And throughout history humanity has generally agreed that pleasure is a commodity that has monetary value.
Why do people study and work hard and compete to be well paid? Is it for money? no, it is for what they can purchase with that money, and once you are beyond subsistence (you have enough to eat, clothes to keep you warm, a roof over your head and transport to get you where you need to be) what you buy is pleasure.
Why spend money on an expensive car when a cheap one gets you where you're going? Because the expensive one is more pleasurable to drive, or more pleasurable to sit in, or more pleasurable to look at.
When you go to a fine restaurant and a chef prepares a gourmet meal that you love, you probably think that it's reaonable to pay for it, but you're hardly paying anything for the ingredients, in fact you're paying for his years of training, for the cost of upkeep of the restaurant, for the waiter who brings the meal to you, and for the guy who does the washing up afterwards.
You're not paying for sustenance, if that was all you wanted you could make yourself a nourishing sandwich quite cheaply, and do the washing up afterwards. You pay for the pleasure of eating a delicious meal (rather than a merely adequate one), the pleasure of being waited on, the pleasure of sitting in fine surroundings, and the pleasure of not washing up afterwards.
But when musicians and others involved - sound engineers, producers, technicians, roadies (not to mention secondary level connections like the guys who design and build the instruments and recording equipment, or the recording studio itself) - get together and work to produce music that you then listen to (whether at a gig or at home or in your car) because it brings you pleasure... you say this has no monetary value??
The music business does need a shakeup, record contracts are often incredible ripoffs for the artists, and I think that the business model where they expect to lose money on the vast majority of acts but make huge money on a few is way past its sell by date. And the RIAA's attempts to restrict where and how people listen to music they have paid a fair price for is offensive.
But when all the fighting and screaming and crying is over and the dust settles, there will still be people working hard to produce something that brings you pleasure.... don't you think that's worth paying money for?
I think this is what we should be working for too. The thing is, I see it as a "almost" cache-22 situation: the artists who are ready to do this are newer players like Radiohead, or are unknowns who don't get screwed by the current system. The people who are big-name already (my music world is rather limited; I'm thinking Whitney Huston [a bit old], the big country people, Britney Spears [yuck!]) are either too wedded to the system to change, ignorant of what's really going on [find that hard to believe], or one of the very few artists who actually do get paid handsomely by the industry.
I remember several months ago when I read that Whitney Huston was signing a $50-million contact with some studio, and I thought, "Why doesn't she just tell them to screw themselves, and set up an internet site?" She probably has more money than God(dess), and has enough fans that even if only 1/2 of them paid the 50 cents per song that's a reasonable cost, she'd still make out like a bandit. Of course, one reason is that not just anyone can dangle a $50 million carrot in front of people..
The cable analogy plays out. The signal on the pole is encrypted. The signal out of a decoder is not. You are free to connect your non-cable VCR to time shift the content. The guys in the interview know this will have to happen. Cable would not have sold if it had nothing but pay per view only viewable on cable equipment. Music to be sold on the internet will have to have the same level of ability to use on your rio, CD burner, Jukebox Device, etc.
From the article;
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But right now they're offering more than you can offer. Let's forget about the size of the catalogues. You can put files downloaded off Kazaa or any of those companies on a MP3 player or record onto a CD. How far are you willing to go to offer legal music that can be transferred onto many different devices?
Those are all things we have to do. But like I said, it's an evolution. You have to be able to download files permanently, burn them to CDs, transfer them to devices, use them on several computers, or else transfer them to other devices that can store and play back music. All those things will have to be part of that process. And if I was just going to steal all the content I could do it tomorrow. "
This guy has a clue that may work. XM radio sells well. Cable TV sells well. You could hook XM radio to a sound card and make MP3's. You can hook a VCR to cable. It looks like the next generation of subscription music will have the same lack of a restriction (CD burning, MP3 player, MP3 Jukebox). As long is it isn't crippled by some pay per view encrypted service, it may have a chance of selling. What took them so long to get a clue? Now if the marketing department can get the sweet price point to sell it! Hint-- $100/month isn't it for the masses regardless of how it's marketed as for the price of 6 CD's.
The truth shall set you free!
Is their all you can eat table that barren? I could see a problem if they only had 1000 titles spanning six catagories. (western, swing, big band, polka, etc.) Is emusic.com's selection really that small? I guess it could be if they don't have the license from all the major players so their selection contains almost nothing that gets regular airplay.
Can anybody subscribing to emusic comment on the music selection or lack thereof?
The truth shall set you free!
Actually they can because they can gurantee the content. Have you experianced the looping files? Have you experianced the bad rips with clicks and pops? Have you had troll files (inapropiate material miss-labled (audio goat file)? Files miss-labeled to fly under RIAA radar? A well organized catalog of high quality files would be a big service that people will pay for. Would you have paid $10/month for a Napster that only had good rips, only at high bandwidth (no D/L from someone on dialup) from a Napster size searchable catalog, in MP3 format, and no monthly limits? How about if it were legal and there were no legal threats for using it? Sign me up! I'm on my way to buy some spindles!
(full disclosure time, I never signed up for Napster or other Peer-Peer network due to legal/moral issues. Make it legal with a subscription plan, and I'm interested!)
The truth shall set you free!
MP3's that sound like they're being broadcast over two tin cans and a wet string. I signed up for the service before I saw that everything was 128kbs, and that was REALLY a mistake.
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I'm not kidding! Not to this guy's service, but to Listen.com's Rhapsody service.
Why? 75% of the music I listen to comes out of my computer. Most of that are from CD's I own and ripped. Probably a quarter is downloaded via P2P.
Listen.com was the first to put together contracts with all 5 "major" labels, and more importantly (in my book) with a few dozen small labels. As a result, about 90% of the artists I listen to are included in Listen's catalog.
All of it, streamed on demand. Less than 2 seconds after clicking "Play", I'm listening to the song, at a quality indistinguishable from a ripped CD. (I'm listening on $500 bi-amped studio monitors. It's not quite audiophile quality, but nothing to sneeze at.)
No, you can't download the tracks. That's OK for me, since I don't rip music to an MP3 player. I do listen to CDs in my car occasionally, but mostly NPR.
Is it perfect? No. There are artists I'd prefer to have in the catalog (The Beatles being the holy grail of online music licensing). Barring that, I'd like to be able to combine network and local files on my playlist.
But comparing it to any of the existing P2P networks, it's undeniably more convenient having all the tracks available on demand. I don't have to try 3 different searches, then struggle through 4 downloads on slow connections that terminate 3/4ths through. I don't have to correct all the title, artist, and album information to get it in a usable form in my library.
It comes down to a pretty simple cost-benefit analysis: Does this service provide $8.33 a month worth of value to me? (They advertise the service at $10/mo, but you can subscribe for $25/quarter.)
Well, that's the cost of a movie, or 3/4ths of a CD. Will I get more than a movie's enjoyment out of this every month? Darn tootin'. So I pulled out the credit card.
If they start offering downloadable or burnable options, will I shell out more cash? I don't know. Maybe they'll provide a pay-as-you-go option for that.
But at $8.33/mo for an unlimited jukebox, I'm hooked.
You know what? I absolutely WOULD pay the artists directly. If I could send artists $5 through PayPal for downloading their album (which is $5 more than the record company would give them if I bought it) then, I absolutely would. Problem is that there is no way to get that money to the artist. There is no e-mail address that goes DIRECTLY to the artists, so their webmasters or fan club presidents don't steal the money. You find me a way to get money to the artists, and I'll do it.
Couldn't have said it better myself :)
Even if this is true, doing what you love can be hard work. You didn't just wake up one day and, with no musical background, pick up a guitar and play at your current level. You practiced, and played, and practiced, and played some more. You did it out of joy, so the challenge and hard work of those hours was fun, perhaps even welcomed.
Yes, artists should write/ perforrm for themselves first and foremost. The abillity to express oneself w/ music is one of the most amazing things I've ever experienced. When this talent is turned to writing/performing for a paycheck, the self-expression turns to self-doubt and pandering, pandering turns to the lowest common denominator, and that's what we usually hear on the radio.
I agree entirely. There is a subtle difference between my post and this statement, however. I speak for bands/artists that go to the trouble of recording and distribution themselves, with no label support. These people have obviously not lost their passion, either for making music, or for getting it out there for people to hear.
Should they get something for the song that is the 'friend' that you can count on, the 'company' as you drive, the 'adviser' when your relationship ends, or just something to listen to as you clean the house? You have the opportunity to decide.
Should you pay them once? Yes! Should you pay them every time you listen to the album/ single? NO! That would lead to a more stagnant music scene than we have even now, and enrich the **AAs as they would most likely demand a cut.
I suggest, if you enjoy what you are doing, to continue. I was lucky enough to make a living as a musician for two years. It was amazingly tough and rewarding; I count it as one of the best experiences I've had in music. Please do not penalize those who are trying to make a living at this. Go to shows, buy the bands music, and pass the word on to friends. You will be the richer one for it.
(Unless they're really bad, then throw tomatoes at them.