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Mozilla 1.1 Beta Out And About
asa writes: "Today mozilla.org released Mozilla 1.1 Beta. New to this release are full-screen mode for Linux, BiDi Hebrew improvements, Arabic shaping improvements for Linux, and significant improvements to Venkman, the best cross-platform JavaScript debugger on the planet. Binaries and release notes available at http://www.mozilla.org/releases/. You can read more about this release at mozilla.org and mozillazine.org and if you want to see how this release fits into the overall 1.1 development cycle there's a pretty picture available at the Mozilla Development Roadmap."
I have had Mozilla for about 6 months now, and all I can say is that the
software is brilliant. I am genuinely stunned by how good this is.
And I am genuinely thankful to all the people who made this possible.
I know it is a little unfair to mention anyone by name but;
Richard Stallman; I think you are a genius.
Linus; many thanks for making your magnificent kernel available to us
all forever via the GPL. If I had ever written anything this good, I
would have been reluctant to part with it, but you gave it away. I
hope you are soon rich as well as famous.
ESR; what can I say, keep up the good work I guess. Try not to take
everything that is said too personally. Like all the others, I don't
agree with everything you say, but I think your contribution is
overwhelmingly positive. And I think you write well. This is
something not all good programmers can do, or want to do.
So far I have Mozilla running on 3 machines. I have the complete home
LAN going with IP masquerading and all that. I have never had a
crash, but to be honest sometimes I have screwed up my systems so
badly the best way to recover was just to reboot and start again.
Quicker than reading the manual if you know what I mean, just hit it
with a bigger hammer. I have a real talent for screwing up routing
tables.
I would guess that Mozilla has saved me at least USD$5,000-00, and maybe
USD$10,000-00. I base this estimate on the software savings (the
missing BLOATware), hardware savings and over priced upgrades to both
that I can now permanently avoid. My gateway/server box is a P75 for
instance, with an 8 gig drive. Intra-LAN pings take 0.5 milliseconds
on 100 meg PCI cards with a 10 meg hub. Me, I can wait 0.5
microseconds for a packet. Especially when it puts 10 grand in my
pocket.
There was an 'astroturfed?' thread here a while ago about everyone who
uses Mozilla having a ton of books and CD's lying around essentially as
papers weights with no useful system to show for it. In my case, I
have 4 distributions already, but I also have a very useful system. I
will try an explain... I have all these distributions because they are
so cheap, and because whenever I want some new component for the
system, like StarOffice 5.1 for instance, the download is too big and
if you buy it from StarDivision (here in Freemont) they want $39-00.
If you go to Fry's (the local electrical store) you can find a
complete distribution containing the single thing you want, plus
upgrades for all the others for $24-95. I am thinking of Caldera 2.2
here. So why not just take the whole thing? So invariably, I do.
In summary, it is difficult to believe that something this good could
be produced in such an unusual way. If I had not seen it with my own
eyes I would not have believed it.
My advice to anyone is just try it. You will save a small fortune,
learn a lot, have a lot of fun.
THiS iS AMOZORiNG THANK GOD WE GOT GREAT PLACES LiKE SLASHDOT TO LEARN ABOUT 1.1 SOFTWAERS>.
Lou: You know I went to the McDonald's in Shelbyville on friday night.
Wiggum: The McWhat?
Lou: McDonald's restaurant. I never heard of it, either, but they have over two thousand locations in this state alone.
Eddie: Must've sprung up overnight.
Lou: You know the funniest thing, though? It's the little differences.
Wiggum: Example?
Lou: Well, at McDonald's you can buy a Krusty Burger with Cheese, right, but they don't call it a Krusty Burger with Cheese.
Wiggum: Get out! Well, what do they call it?
Lou: A Quarter Pounder with Cheese.
Wiggum: Quarter Pounder with Cheese? Well, I can picture the cheese, but, uh, do they have Krusty Partially Gelatinated Non-Dairy Gum Based Beverages?
Lou: Mmm hmm, they call em shakes.
Eddie: Hmph, shakes. You don't know what you're getting.
Wiggum: Well, I know what I'm getting. Some donuts. Help me out of the booth, boys.
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SweetAndSourJesus
Here's my little soapbox and I'm a "highly modded" poster so I get the whole plus 2 before I'm modded as a troll some more. Mozilla may be a very capable browser, but shaping the article to play more into the fact that it has better language support than IE and still holds 99% of the functionality of IE would be a better story than just announcing every release and a brief summary of the changelog. The last thing I would like to see is a list of mirrors for software, I don't like having to wait 3 days because the only place I know to get the software is the link that slashdot posted that is far out of date. While this doesn't apply to distros and software like mozilla, it does apply to projects not hosted on sourceforge or that have a lot of bandwidth to spare.
I am very pleased to see that Mozilla is doing what some seemed would never happen and that's to make a browser that is not only free, but open source, runs on more platforms than I can name, and to top it all off, is actively developed on. I couldn't be happier with the way mozilla is working out, my main beef is that if /. wants to post PR articles or PR announcements at least say why the project is slashdot worthy, and moreso why the project is a benifit to all of us.
I use mozilla all the time, you know why? Because no matter what computer I'm on, I can run it. That's what I like about mozilla. I don't care if it isn't as fast as IE in page rendering, or if it eats up a lot of memory, or if someone thinks opera is better. I like mozilla and I think slashdot is really doing them an injustice by explaining that a new version is out and not the benifits of the project itself.
Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
The Conscience of a Troll
by Anonymous Coward
Written on July 23, 2002
Another one got modded down today, it's all over the discussion. "-1, Flamebait", "-1, Offtopic"...
Damn trolls. They're all alike.
But did you, in your karma-whore psychology and JonKatz technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the troll? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him,what may have molded him?
I am a troll, enter my world...
Mine is a world that begins with slashdot. I'm smarter than most of the other posters, this crap they post us bores me...
Damn underachiever. They're all alike.
I'm in my LUG. I've listened to presenters explain for the fifteenth time how to mount a floppy. I understand it. "No, Mr. Stallman, I didn't show my code. I did it in my head."
Damn kid. Probably violated the GPL. They're all alike.
I made a discovery today. I found a computer.
Wait a second, this is cool. It posts what I want it to. If it gets modded down, it's because I screwed it up.
Not because it doesn't like me...
Or feels threatened by me...
Or thinks I'm a smart ass...
Or doesn't like posting and shouldn't be here...
Damn kid. All he does is post crap. They're all alike.
And then it happened. A door opened to a world rushing through my phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a first post is sought... a board is found.
"This is it... this is where I belong." I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all.
Damn kid. Wasting the moderators' again. They're all alike.
You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed reposts when we hungered for news... the stories we submitted were rejected as if they were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by editors, or ignored by the posters. The few that had something to say found us willing readers, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.
This is our world now... the world of the crapflood and the flame, the terror of the post. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be l33t if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us trolls.
We explore... and you call us offtopic. We seek after knowledge... and you call us flamebait.
We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us trolls. You DDoS websites by slashdotting, you bash MS, you censor, spam, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the trolls.
Yes, I am a troll. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outposting you, something that you will never forgive me for.
I am a troll, and this is my crapflood. You may mod down this individual, but you can't mod us all...
After all, we're all alike.
ok, this is a new low. you spelled "Mozilla" wrong in the FUCKING TITLE
good work, guys
Could 1.1 be the version that AOL integrates with their client software?
No, the next version of America Online will still use MSIE. Sorry.
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fuck you, im not a programmer. i am a simple user.
Once again the X windowing system and the users of both Gnome and KDE desktop environments get left wanting. Ah well maybe someday day around version 2. Though by then we'll all be useing KDE 5 or 6 with Konqueror and Gnome 2.6 with Galeon 2.2 and we won't care if mozilla has good looking fonts under X because we won't be useing it.
sparkeyjames
If sense were common everyone would have it!
Do you have any friends outside of the Internet?
URLs don't necessarily show the file format. One could not be sure it wasn't a webpage masquerading under the url of a JPEG.
but I usually like to see W3C compliance in my web browsers...or at least a constant sloppy compliance across the board. Not only do I now have to make sure NS4.7 and IE look pretty, but I also have to make sure I don't use any CSS markups that Mozilla 5.0 handles horribly wrong.