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Mozilla 1.1 Beta Out And About

asa writes: "Today mozilla.org released Mozilla 1.1 Beta. New to this release are full-screen mode for Linux, BiDi Hebrew improvements, Arabic shaping improvements for Linux, and significant improvements to Venkman, the best cross-platform JavaScript debugger on the planet. Binaries and release notes available at http://www.mozilla.org/releases/. You can read more about this release at mozilla.org and mozillazine.org and if you want to see how this release fits into the overall 1.1 development cycle there's a pretty picture available at the Mozilla Development Roadmap."

402 comments

  1. Mozilla by blackula · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Could 1.1 be the version that AOL integrates with their client software?

    1. Re:Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      EXHUME TO CONSUME

      Grimly I dig up the turfs
      To remove the corrupted stiffs
      Trying to contain my excitement
      As I desecrate graveolent crypts...
      Fingers claw at coffin lids
      Eager festal exhumation
      Hugging your wry, festered remains
      With post-humous joy and elation...
      Body snatched, freshly interred
      Whatever takes my fancy
      To satisfy my gratuitous pica
      My culinary necromancy...
      Scrutinised then brutalised
      My forensic inquisition is fulfilled
      My recipe is now your epitaph
      Be it fried, boiled or grilled...

      I devour the pediculous corpse
      Whetting my palate as I exhume
      The festering stench of rotting flesh
      Makes me drool as I consume...

      Caskets I grate My larder's a grave I'm sickly obsessed (with the badly decomposed)
      Rotten remains I eat Purulent meat What a funeral feast (putrid reek)

      Weeping tissue is stripped
      Pus dribbles from my lips
      Pulverising this pustular chaff
      Butchering up morgue's makes me laugh...

      Ulcerated flesh I munch
      Rotting corpses are my lunch
      On bones I love to crunch (on the badly decomposed)
      Shrivelled innards I lick
      The corpse's head I kick
      Crumbling shreds I pick (eat the stiffs)

      (Solo: morbid melody for the deceased with salt to taste)

      Rancid flesh, slaughter the dead - Caskets exhumed...
      Corpses disinterred, graves disturbed - To consume...

      Bereaved relatives are not amused
      As on their dearly departed I feverishly consume...

      Slavering worms, decomposure burns
      Corrosion born, as bacteria gnaw

      Desecrate... Precipitate... (from the muddy grave) Macerate... Eviscerate...

      Caskets I grate My larder's a grave I'm sickly obsessed (with the badly decomposed)
      Rotten remains I eat Purulent meat What a funeral feast (putrid reek)

      Saponified fats, nibbled by rats - Freshly exhumed...
      Deep down six feet is where I like to eat - Human flesh to consume...

    2. Re:Mozilla by Phroggy · · Score: 1, Troll

      Could 1.1 be the version that AOL integrates with their client software?

      No, the next version of America Online will still use MSIE. Sorry.

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    3. Re:Mozilla by kitzilla · · Score: 1

      We're up to build 14 on AOL for the beta for Mac OS X, and it's Mozilla. It'll go GM that way, I'm sure.

      Works well, by the way.

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    4. Re:Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could 1.1 be the version that AOL integrates with their client software?
      Could you be a complete retard?
      No and yes.

    5. Re:Mozilla by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      They've had builds running with Gecko for a long time, but last I heard (a few weeks ago) they'd decided that the next major release of AOL was to use MSIE. Sounds like that plan has changed recently. Yay!

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    6. Re:Mozilla by kitzilla · · Score: 1

      Yeah, all the Mac development is Mozilla-based now. The builds are coming every few weeks, and they're quite useable now. Yay, indeed. :-)

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    7. Re:Mozilla by Eil · · Score: 2


      I've said it before and I'll say it again, AOL will never bundle nor integrate Mozilla with their client.

      However, there's a fairly good chance they might bundle or integrate Netscape 6.x, which is based on Mozilla but is not (as many here will attest to) Mozilla itself.

    8. Re:Mozilla by DrXym · · Score: 2
      No, they *will* use Gecko in their client but its a matter of when rather than if. The technology is already there as witnessed by the AOL 8.0 betas which contain it and on OS X and in the shipping Compuserve client. It is also by all accounts very reliable too.

      The problem they now face is how to ship it, how to get their partners to use it, how to get their content and top 100 sites to render properly with it. Hopefully by chipping away by using it in Compuserve (which is nearly the same codebase as the AOL client), AOL on OS X and set top boxes then most of these issues will iron themselves out over time.

    9. Re:Mozilla by Eil · · Score: 2


      Exactly. I meant to imply that parts of technology developed as part of the Mozilla project are probably going to be integrated into AOL, but Mozilla, as the browser suite we know it, will not. Netscape 6.x is a far more likely candidate.

  2. Ha! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mozilla-enabled FP!

  3. hooray by c0nfucio-licious · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    nothing like a healthy serving of meth to start the evening...

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  4. New in 1.1 from 1.0 (karma whore) by Bistronaut · · Score: -1, Informative

    In case you are coming from 1.0 and want to know what is different in the 1.1 branch (ripped from the 1.1a rel. notes):

    * Download Manager has been enabled (with many improvements) for the 1.1 Alph arelease.
    * Mozilla now takes advantage of Quartz rendering for users of Mac OS X 10.1.5
    * Viewing HTML mail messages as plain text is new.
    * Quote original message has been implemented for 1.1a
    * We have new layout performance enhancements targeted at DHTML.
    * There have also been performance enhancements for the application startup speed.
    * Viewsource for MathML and view source for selections have been implemented.
    * Mozilla now has support for the display of XBM images.
    * Autocomplete in the addressbar has an improved sort order.
    * Browser tabs now close left to right (they used to close right to left).
    * The cross-plaform File Picker now has a button for creating a new directory.
    * Redundant backup of preferences files has been implemented in 1.1 Alpha.
    * Mozilla's drag and drop support has been greatly improved.
    * Image blocking for Mail & News has been implemented.

    1. Re:New in 1.1 from 1.0 (karma whore) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Mozilla's drag and drop support has been greatly improved.

      How about disabling drag and drop under Linux, select and middle-click do everything I need. Drag and drop interferes with selection.

    2. Re:New in 1.1 from 1.0 (karma whore) by the+way,+what're+you · · Score: 0

      * Download Manager has been enabled (with many improvements) for the 1.1 Alph arelease.

      1.1 Alf release? Don't blow a gasket, Willy! Ha! I kill me!

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    3. Re:New in 1.1 from 1.0 (karma whore) by JPriest · · Score: 1
      * Image blocking for Mail & News has been implemented.

      To me this one is most important because it prevents spammers from imbedding web bugs to see what email addresses are active. ie you can refrence an image source to http://some.com/cgi-bin/mail-check.cgi?CmrTaco@mai l.com and it does not take a 'reply remove' to know it's a valid email address.

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    4. Re:New in 1.1 from 1.0 (karma whore) by renoX · · Score: 2

      This happens under Solaris too.

      I think that it is a bug so it should go into the 1.0.x release, but I'm not sure that there will be one.

      I hope that it will be fixed in the 1.1 release..

    5. Re:New in 1.1 from 1.0 (karma whore) by the+way,+what're+you · · Score: 1

      Hackers using evil email hackery to harvest addresses? That's crazy! Steve Gibson should be all over this!

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    6. Re:New in 1.1 from 1.0 (karma whore) by JPriest · · Score: 1

      Steve Gibson's soul was purchased into FUD slavery by Symantec Corp about a month ago.

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    7. Re:New in 1.1 from 1.0 (karma whore) by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      How about having the option to disable "paste" on middle click in Linux? Every time I close a tab by middle clicking on it, Moz thinks I just pasted into the location bar, damn annoying..

    8. Re:New in 1.1 from 1.0 (karma whore) by jesser · · Score: 1

      Every time I close a tab by middle clicking on it, Moz thinks I just pasted into the location bar, damn annoying..

      I think that bug was fixed in Mozilla 1.1 beta. I haven't checked because I use Windows. If it isn't fixed for you in Mozilla 1.1 beta, please add a comment to bug 107147.

      How about having the option to disable "paste" on middle click in Linux?

      Adding a pref is usually not a good way to fix a bug, partly because only a few users will find the pref and partly because each pref added makes other prefs harder to find. If we add that pref, it won't be because of a bug related to the feature.

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    9. Re:New in 1.1 from 1.0 (karma whore) by BZ · · Score: 2

      There is such a pref. See all.js in the Mozilla installation, search for "middle".

    10. Re:New in 1.1 from 1.0 (karma whore) by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      This bug is still not fixed in 1.1b, however the fix appears to be on track for the next release.

  5. FP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    1. Re:FP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't use the anonymize proxy, eh? We can't really be AC without anonymizer.com!

  6. Mozilla is Dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    It is official; Netcraft confirms: Mozilla is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Mozilla community when IDC confirmed that Mozilla market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all web browsers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that Mozilla has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Mozilla is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict Mozilla's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Mozilla faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Mozilla because Mozilla is dying. Things are looking very bad for Mozilla. As many of us are already aware, Mozilla continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    Netscape 6 is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time Netscape developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: Mozilla is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    Mozilla.org leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of Mozilla. How many users of Galeon are there? Let's see. The number of Mozilla versus Galeon posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 Galeon users. Chimera posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of Galeon posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of Chimera. A recent article put Netscape 6 at about 80 percent of the Mozilla market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 Netscape 6 users. This is consistent with the number of Netscape 6 usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Mozilla, abysmal sales and so on, Netscape went out of business and will probably be taken over by AOL who sell another troubled browser. Now AOL is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that Mozilla has steadily declined in market share. Mozilla is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Mozilla is to survive at all it will be among browser dilettante dabblers. Mozilla continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Mozilla is dead.

    Fact: Mozilla is dying
    1. Re:Mozilla is Dying by KaiKaitheKai · · Score: -1
      For all practical purposes, Mozilla is dead.
      For all unpractical purposes, I.E. Karmawhoring and FPing (see above) Mozilla is alive and well.
    2. Re:Mozilla is Dying by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 1

      pessimist

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    3. Re:Mozilla is Dying by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 1

      So, tell us, how do YOU really feel about Mozilla. Don't worry. We can take it.

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  7. Serious questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Are the Arabic and Hebrew improvements going to start killing and bombing each other?

    1. Re:Serious questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I lost three processes last night during evening browsing. Very sad.

    2. Re:Serious questions by confucio-licious · · Score: -1

      No, they are words, not a Middle Eastern conflict.

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    3. Re:Serious questions by confucio-licious · · Score: -1

      er....character sets, please excuse me!

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    4. Re:Serious questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      As long as the Hebrew improvements don't claim they are chosen by god to steal the Arab improvements land there shouldn't be any problems.

    5. Re:Serious questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      I was choosen by God to steal your Television. Hand it over or I'll call the Bush and the U.N.

    6. Re:Serious questions by JPriest · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Might be modded as flamebait but I thought it was rather humorous.

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  8. Hats off to the Mozilla developers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I have had Mozilla for about 6 months now, and all I can say is that the
    software is brilliant. I am genuinely stunned by how good this is.
    And I am genuinely thankful to all the people who made this possible.
    I know it is a little unfair to mention anyone by name but;

    Richard Stallman; I think you are a genius.

    Linus; many thanks for making your magnificent kernel available to us
    all forever via the GPL. If I had ever written anything this good, I
    would have been reluctant to part with it, but you gave it away. I
    hope you are soon rich as well as famous.

    ESR; what can I say, keep up the good work I guess. Try not to take
    everything that is said too personally. Like all the others, I don't
    agree with everything you say, but I think your contribution is
    overwhelmingly positive. And I think you write well. This is
    something not all good programmers can do, or want to do.

    So far I have Mozilla running on 3 machines. I have the complete home
    LAN going with IP masquerading and all that. I have never had a
    crash, but to be honest sometimes I have screwed up my systems so
    badly the best way to recover was just to reboot and start again.
    Quicker than reading the manual if you know what I mean, just hit it
    with a bigger hammer. I have a real talent for screwing up routing
    tables.

    I would guess that Mozilla has saved me at least USD$5,000-00, and maybe
    USD$10,000-00. I base this estimate on the software savings (the
    missing BLOATware), hardware savings and over priced upgrades to both
    that I can now permanently avoid. My gateway/server box is a P75 for
    instance, with an 8 gig drive. Intra-LAN pings take 0.5 milliseconds
    on 100 meg PCI cards with a 10 meg hub. Me, I can wait 0.5
    microseconds for a packet. Especially when it puts 10 grand in my
    pocket.

    There was an 'astroturfed?' thread here a while ago about everyone who
    uses Mozilla having a ton of books and CD's lying around essentially as
    papers weights with no useful system to show for it. In my case, I
    have 4 distributions already, but I also have a very useful system. I
    will try an explain... I have all these distributions because they are
    so cheap, and because whenever I want some new component for the
    system, like StarOffice 5.1 for instance, the download is too big and
    if you buy it from StarDivision (here in Freemont) they want $39-00.
    If you go to Fry's (the local electrical store) you can find a
    complete distribution containing the single thing you want, plus
    upgrades for all the others for $24-95. I am thinking of Caldera 2.2
    here. So why not just take the whole thing? So invariably, I do.

    In summary, it is difficult to believe that something this good could
    be produced in such an unusual way. If I had not seen it with my own
    eyes I would not have believed it.

    My advice to anyone is just try it. You will save a small fortune,
    learn a lot, have a lot of fun.

    1. Re:Hats off to the Mozilla developers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This has to be a troll, no one could possibly be that lame.

      That sad part is i'm not really sure...

      This is slashdot after all.

    2. Re:Hats off to the Mozilla developers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a troll, this exact comment has been posted on 3 seperate occasions the last few posts. Its sort of like *bsd is dying posts, where they just adapt a few of the words for the subject matter.

    3. Re:Hats off to the Mozilla developers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well that's a relief.

      This is slashdot though ya know, i mean there are some lame fuckas around these parts so ya can never be sure...

    4. Re:Hats off to the Mozilla developers! by jchristopher · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Parent deserves another "+1" funny", just for managing to write a troll that someone moderated up as interesting.

    5. Re:Hats off to the Mozilla developers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ATTN PLZ!

      u r VARY gehy plz fix k thnx bye

  9. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    THiS iS AMOZORiNG THANK GOD WE GOT GREAT PLACES LiKE SLASHDOT TO LEARN ABOUT 1.1 SOFTWAERS>.

  10. xul/xpi stuff? (OT) by certron · · Score: 1

    Is there any place that has a few good examples of what can be done with the XUL and XPI features of Mozilla / Gecko / whatever ? I've discovered www.xulplanet.com but I was wondering if anyone knew of any demos out there.

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    1. Re:xul/xpi stuff? (OT) by asa · · Score: 4, Informative

      mozdev.org is the premier destination for those seeking Mozilla plug-ins, add-ons and enhancements. You can find all kinds of XUL projects, some made to work with Mozilla, some completely unrelated to Mozilla. Have a look, maybe a touch.

      --Asa

    2. Re:xul/xpi stuff? (OT) by caferace · · Score: 2
      Unfortunately, Mozdev is either slow or unreachable a lot of the time.

      When it is up and quick it is a great resource, although non-inviting from a UI point of view. That doesn't matter in the long run. Mozilla links to it, and it is often MIA.

      Until it becomes consistently available, it is a poor showcase for Moz features.

    3. Re:xul/xpi stuff? (OT) by briandonovan · · Score: 1

      There's an upcoming book, if you don't mind waiting a few months : "Creating Applications with Mozilla"

  11. I thought you all would like this by dcstimm · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:I thought you all would like this by dcstimm · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      why am I a troll? That picture was done in good taste.... I love Mozilla and I made that for the mozilla team.

    2. Re:I thought you all would like this by flacco · · Score: 1

      hehehe - cute!

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    3. Re:I thought you all would like this by SuperDuG · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      You're a troll because you posted a picture. Same reason I'm a troll because I post personal opinion. No one ever said these things made sense ;-)

      On a side note, great picture. I just set it as my background :-)

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    4. Re:I thought you all would like this by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 2

      Heh I thought it was funny.

      Go fig. Any chance another mod'll come around and re-evaluate parent post about the Mozilla pic?

    5. Re:I thought you all would like this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      You're a troll because some idiot got his hands on mod points, saw the brevity of your post, and marked you as a troll without actually following the link.

      You're a troll because the moderation system is, in essence, distributed incompetence.

      Doesn't it suck?


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    6. Re:I thought you all would like this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      troll

      \Troll\, n. [Icel. troll. Cf. Droll, Trull.] (Scand. Myth.) A supernatural being, often represented as of diminutive size, but sometimes as a giant, and fabled to inhabit caves, hills, and like places; a witch.

      Troll flower. (Bot.) Same as Globeflower (a) .
      Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

      Clearly the moderator is familiar with your supernatural status.

    7. Re:I thought you all would like this by krmt · · Score: 1

      You just gave me my new Windows-side background. Thank you!

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    8. Re:I thought you all would like this by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 1

      That's actually cool. I thought I was being suckered into goatse or something.

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    9. Re:I thought you all would like this by OklaKid · · Score: -1

      Kewl, Thanks for the desktop wallpaper!!! :) :) :)

  12. Excellent by Quantum+Singularity · · Score: 1

    Now that Mozilla is out of beta, its compatibility needs (if any) must now be considered alongside NS, IE, and Opera. Go Mozilla!

    1. Re:Excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm, v1.0 has been out of beta for a while. This is v1.1 BETA.

    2. Re:Excellent by Random+Bystander · · Score: 1

      I think the reverse should be applied. Mozilla strives for (and mostly achieves) standards compliance. So are you asking that it should breach those standards in the same way that IE (and Opera?) do to achieve the compatibility?

    3. Re:Excellent by the+way,+what're+you · · Score: 1

      Wha...?!? 1.0 has been out of beta for a while.. this is 1.1 BETA.

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    4. Re:Excellent by Quantum+Singularity · · Score: 1

      Sorry- brain-fart.

    5. Re:Excellent by d2002xx · · Score: 0

      the biggest problem is slow......

  13. Native SVG? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    So when should we expect native SVG support?
    The last time I checked, the holdup was the license on mathlib.

    1. Re:Native SVG? by yasth · · Score: 2, Informative

      libart http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/

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  14. MODERATORS ARE ALL ASLEEP! FREE FOR ALL!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    everytime I troll on /.
    w00t w00t

    everytime I crap flood an article
    w00t w00t

    everytime I link to goatse.cx
    w00t w00t

    everytime I waste a moderator's mod points
    w00t w00t
    no more to give to the karma whores
    w00t.

  15. Humble request by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you make the vertical scroll bar BIGGER?

    1. Re:Humble request by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't you get the source and make it bigger yourself? Then submit the patch so we all can benefit.

    2. Re:Humble request by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      fuck you, im not a programmer. i am a simple user.

    3. Re:Humble request by jesser · · Score: 1

      Humble request: can you make the vertical scroll bar BIGGER?

      Huh? Mozilla's vertical scrollbar is infinitely large (horizontally) because it sits at the right edge of the screen. Netscape 4, Internet Explorer, and Opera (all on Windows) leave space between the scrollbar and the edge of the screen, making the scrollbar harder to click and very hard to hold onto without keeping the mouse button down or looking at it.

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    4. Re:Humble request by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wider.. they want the scrollbar wider (it is pretty thin, now that I look)

    5. Re:Humble request by jesser · · Score: 1

      The scrollbar is infinitely wide if you maximize the window or align it with the right edge of the screen.

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    6. Re:Humble request by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Simple" being the operative word.

    7. Re:Humble request by King+of+the+World · · Score: 1

      Perhaps in a decent GUI, but here in KDE 2.something I select the window decoration at the edge of the screen.

    8. Re:Humble request by jesser · · Score: 1

      here in KDE 2.something I select the window decoration at the edge of the screen

      Please report this to the KDE folk as a bug if it's still present in a new version of KDE. Also, try Mozilla's full screen mode.

      In general, I think Mozilla should avoid adding preferences that would be better fixed in the operating system. (Examples: anti-alias text of font sizes n and above, make all mouse buttons act like the left mouse button.)

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  16. yipee...but by tanveer1979 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would like to see better flash support, a better java, and more speed(i dunno aout linux but on my solaris it is slow :-( ). But overall a good package and if we iron out the rough edges it is the best browser there is. :-).

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    1. Re:yipee...but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So basically your saying if you fix all the stuff that makes it suck it will be good?

      Gee that's insightful!

    2. Re:yipee...but by asa · · Score: 4, Informative

      Mozilla flash support comes from Macromedia's Flash plugin. The latest Flash plugin just released in recent days supports scripting in Mozilla so the support is coming along well (real is also now scriptable in Mozilla).

      --Asa

    3. Re:yipee...but by kubrick · · Score: 1

      Annoyingly, Macromedia's still very down on Linux, and we're still waiting for a Flash Player 6 release. Authoring tools for the platform wouldn't hurt, either.

      --
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    4. Re:yipee...but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya, pretty slow. I work on a celeron 400 at work, so I see the crustiness as well.

      Anything flash caused moz 1.1a to crash for me, but it might have been the crossover plugin, that seems to override the native stuffs, but as far as speed goes that's not much better. :P

      I'd prefer a world with no flash or java on websites at all, thank goodness there's very few that have all that crap (at least that I go to). Pain in frick D:

    5. Re:yipee...but by x-dj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well as a designer I would really love for mozilla to rid themselves of the (netscape created) embed tag, it has been removed from XHTML 1.0 specs. The problem is for Mozilla users to view a flash movie the embed tag needs to be there.

      There are ways around this such as creating your own DTD, but the w3c validator does not do custom DTD's. or using this hideous workaround. http://www.outofthetrees.co.uk/resources/flash_ver sus_standards.php

      Please Mozilla spare us from the embed tag.

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    6. Re:yipee...but by BZ · · Score: 2

      works too, y'know....

    7. Re:yipee...but by sirinek · · Score: 1

      A fucking shockwave player would be nice too.

      What is keeping them? :(

    8. Re:yipee...but by RichiP · · Score: 1

      If anyone wants it bad and has US$24.95 to spare, support Linux software developer and invest in CodeWeavers plugin. Full Flash and Shockwave support (among other things. ie. Quicktime, MS Mediaplayer, etc.)

    9. Re:yipee...but by civilizedINTENSITY · · Score: 2

      "Authoring tools"...

      JavaSWF2 is a set of Java packages that enable the parsing, manipulation and generation of the Macromedia Flash(TM) file format known as SWF ("swiff").

      ming
      is a c library for generating SWF ("Flash") format movies, plus a set of wrappers for using the library from c++ and popular scripting languages like PHP, Python, and Ruby.

    10. Re:yipee...but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linux is dead. Get over it and run Windows XP.

    11. Re:yipee...but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought it was BSD that was dying? Besides, I don't want to pay for Windows XP every time I change my hardware.

  17. So far, so good ... by deek · · Score: 2, Informative

    Saw the slashdot article and immediately downloaded the beta.

    So far it's working like a charm. They've fixed up the bugs from the alpha, like the one which caused word overlapping on some sentences.

    This browser just keeps on moving from strength to strength! Thanks, Mozilla team!

  18. It could be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Lou: You know I went to the McDonald's in Shelbyville on friday night.

    Wiggum: The McWhat?

    Lou: McDonald's restaurant. I never heard of it, either, but they have over two thousand locations in this state alone.

    Eddie: Must've sprung up overnight.

    Lou: You know the funniest thing, though? It's the little differences.

    Wiggum: Example?

    Lou: Well, at McDonald's you can buy a Krusty Burger with Cheese, right, but they don't call it a Krusty Burger with Cheese.

    Wiggum: Get out! Well, what do they call it?

    Lou: A Quarter Pounder with Cheese.

    Wiggum: Quarter Pounder with Cheese? Well, I can picture the cheese, but, uh, do they have Krusty Partially Gelatinated Non-Dairy Gum Based Beverages?

    Lou: Mmm hmm, they call em shakes.

    Eddie: Hmph, shakes. You don't know what you're getting.

    Wiggum: Well, I know what I'm getting. Some donuts. Help me out of the booth, boys.


    --
    SweetAndSourJesus

  19. mirrors by country... by neo8750 · · Score: 4, Informative
    lets be nice to the main site! .at .au .be .bg .ca .ch .com/.net/.org/.edu .cz .de .dk .ee .es .fi .fr .gr .hk .hu .ie .il .jp .kr .no .pl .pt .ru .se .sg .sk .tw .uk
  20. Aighty then... by SuperDuG · · Score: 5, Troll
    Okay I like mozilla and I like what they're all about and I like just about everything about what they're doing. But I think if everyone is interested in the latest greatest opensource software releases that they can easily hop on over to freshmeat, you know a slashdot affiliate?

    Here's my little soapbox and I'm a "highly modded" poster so I get the whole plus 2 before I'm modded as a troll some more. Mozilla may be a very capable browser, but shaping the article to play more into the fact that it has better language support than IE and still holds 99% of the functionality of IE would be a better story than just announcing every release and a brief summary of the changelog. The last thing I would like to see is a list of mirrors for software, I don't like having to wait 3 days because the only place I know to get the software is the link that slashdot posted that is far out of date. While this doesn't apply to distros and software like mozilla, it does apply to projects not hosted on sourceforge or that have a lot of bandwidth to spare.

    I am very pleased to see that Mozilla is doing what some seemed would never happen and that's to make a browser that is not only free, but open source, runs on more platforms than I can name, and to top it all off, is actively developed on. I couldn't be happier with the way mozilla is working out, my main beef is that if /. wants to post PR articles or PR announcements at least say why the project is slashdot worthy, and moreso why the project is a benifit to all of us.

    I use mozilla all the time, you know why? Because no matter what computer I'm on, I can run it. That's what I like about mozilla. I don't care if it isn't as fast as IE in page rendering, or if it eats up a lot of memory, or if someone thinks opera is better. I like mozilla and I think slashdot is really doing them an injustice by explaining that a new version is out and not the benifits of the project itself.

    --
    Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
    1. Re:Aighty then... by lubricated · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I don't like having to wait 3 days because...

      because you are an impatient fart knocker.
      It's three fucking days, what are you in such a hury for.

      --
      It has been statistically shown that helmets increase the risk of head injury.
    2. Re:Aighty then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " Figures I can hit the karma cap ... and still be marked a troll. "

      You really love yourself, don't you? All this talk about yourself, how your on you soapbox and whatever. Narcissim is unhealthy.

    3. Re:Aighty then... by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1, Informative

      Your user number is lower than mine, yet you've never realized or heard as I have about going to Preferences, Exclude Stories From the Homepage, Topics, then checking the MOZILLA BOX. BOOM! Mozilla stories will forever disappear from /. for you. What's that? You want to hear about Mozilla 1.1 but not the alpha and beta? Try that freshmeat site you mention but I've never checked out. Or follow the Mozilla timetable and use ICQs reminder feature or whatever. You're wasting your breath when a very significant group of /. readers want to hear about Mozilla alpha and betas.

    4. Re:Aighty then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, like any given milestone of Mozilla's ever come out on time.

      Version 1.0.1 was due out 'by next Wednesday' about a month ago.

    5. Re:Aighty then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cripe, it's a big deal, just like linux kernel and apache releases.

      Does it really hurt you that much to see one friggen article relating to software releases?

      I'm tired of seeing this crap every time there's a post relating to some software app. Always someone bitching about something.

    6. Re:Aighty then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefered Mozila 1.0 to IE because it was faster but it had major problems with Hotmail(M$ problem)

    7. Re:Aighty then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't say that he didn't want to see Mozilla stories. He said that they should post BETTER Mozilla stories. Not just "Oh, btw, new Moz build out today."

  21. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  22. hurm by carpe_noctem · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    "Mozlla 1.1 Beta Out And About"

    Hey, it's Mozlla, the next big thing in the browser war! Sheesh, doesn't anyone check their stories anymore? ;)

    --
    "Quoting famous computer scientists out of context is the root of all evil (or at least most of it) in programming." - K
    1. Re:hurm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you'd think, wouldn't you? but no. it's one of the reasons I come here less and less, actually. taco and the crew just don't care that much.

      also, whoever modded you down was a moron

    2. Re:hurm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've got a great point there, but you'll get modded down like crazy for making it.

      It boggles the mind that a commercial site such as this can't even take thirty seconds to proofread a story. It only makes it worse that the typo is in the name of the product.

      Very professional, timothy.

  23. Netscape profile-trashing bug still present by Animats · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The infamous profile-trashing between versions bug is still present. Comments indicate that it has to be fixed before Mozilla 1.x goes out as Netscape, or Netscape won't coexist with itself.

    1. Re:Netscape profile-trashing bug still present by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How come I get the "Sorry, links to Bugzilla from Slashdot are disabled." error?

    2. Re:Netscape profile-trashing bug still present by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like one of the comments in the bug report says:

      Um, yeah. Don't do that

      Use different profiles for Netscape and Mozilla like they've said in the release notes.

    3. Re:Netscape profile-trashing bug still present by edgrale · · Score: 2

      Well you can always use the "turbo" feature, there's a bug^H^H^H feature in it that might delete your profile. ;-)

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    4. Re:Netscape profile-trashing bug still present by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      kind of like the profile-trashing if you try to load a windows nt4 profile on windows 2000...

    5. Re:Netscape profile-trashing bug still present by kirbyt · · Score: 1

      There can be no stability until the BiDi Hebrew improvements learn to peacefully coexist with the Arabic shaping improvements.

    6. Re:Netscape profile-trashing bug still present by cr@ckwhore · · Score: 2

      Its not quite the same issue. I don't know why anybody would want Mozilla and Netscape to coexist anyway, because they're the same thing.

      The temporary fix for the profile bug creates a problem with mozilla itself.

      The temporary "fix" for the profile bug is a lock file, which if present when the browser is loaded, it will prompt the user to use a different profile. At least, thats the case with Mozilla on Linux. This was intended to prevent the user from opening multiples processes with the same profile, that being the source of reported profile corruption.

      This presents a serious real world problem for myself and many others, because I'm not interested in setting up a profile for each browser instance I may want to open! I get URLs from various sources delivered to me via IRC, IM, etc, and it becomes a major pain in the ass when I can't open these URLs directly because mozilla has a silly little bug with profiles!! (Which I have never experienced first hand BTW).

      I think the real solution is to take one of the following actions:

      1. If mozilla is started and finds a lock file on one of the profiles (assuming its in use), then send a message to the existing mozilla process to open a new window, with URL if specified. This action would be similar to using mozilla -remote.

      2. Rather than creating a lock file, the first mozilla window to open would become a "profile server" of sorts. This would be the only process able to make changes (write) to the profile. All other mozilla processes would write to the profile by communicating with the original process. If the original mozilla process is terminated, then one of the other processes would pick up the role of coordinating profile writes.

      I think its really great that the mozilla team is making changes to arabic, hebrew, and adding new buttons and things like that, but the profile problem has *SERIOUS* useability consequences and deserves more attention.

      Note, the profile locking "fix" was introduced in Moz 1.0 RC3, so if you're like me and interested in a having browser that works, stick with RC2 until they actually fix the real problem.

      --
      Skiers and Riders -- http://www.snowjournal.com
  24. I'm impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've been using Mozilla for a while now, both under linux and windows, and have been very impressed. 1.1 is even more impressive than 1.0, and some bug's that i've been having under linux are now fixed. Hooray to the Mozilla team, they're doing an excellent job.

  25. anyone tried the FreeBSD binary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone know if there is a FreeBSD binary available? Thanks.

    1. Re:anyone tried the FreeBSD binary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its dead, get over it.

  26. Bug in favorite feature by palme999 · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Use of Mozilla's "quicklaunch" (AKA "turbo") mode may cause the deletion of user preferences. It is recommended that you do not run quicklaunch until this bug is fixed."

    Checking bugilla shows a patch in the queue, here's hoping it makes it to one of the nightly's.

    1. Re:Bug in favorite feature by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      Don't say they didn't disable it than?

      Just imagine Microsoft does same thing on upcoming(?) IE 7 beta... It would be a Slashdot story itself. No no, web news would have an earthquake!

      Oh yea, mod me down, I am also k-lined from mozilla.org IRC which I have NEVER joined...

    2. Re:Bug in favorite feature by GregWebb · · Score: 2

      Bugzilla ref? Just that QL is what makes Moz a suitable work replacement for IE as I can launch and kill windows at liberty without having to leave one alive.

      At home (with multiple profiles...) it's not a problem because the mail client's always open but at work I need QL working or Moz gets painful.

      --

      Greg

      (Inside a nuclear plant)
      Aaaarrrggh! Run! The canary has mutated!

    3. Re:Bug in favorite feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      K-lined? Probably because you're not connecting from a l33t university or webserving company connection. Everyone else can't connect.

  27. GOATSE LINK DON"T GO THERE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    don't follow that link unless you like lots of java pop ups of guys with pulling their bung crack opn or pictures of homosexuals gobbling pen0rz.

    1. Re:GOATSE LINK DON"T GO THERE! by kearneyj · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Of course, if you used Mozilla you could disable all of that stuff. However, this is just a JPEG, and is thus junk-free even in IE.

      Next time actually follow the link! :-)

    2. Re:GOATSE LINK DON"T GO THERE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      URLs don't necessarily show the file format. One could not be sure it wasn't a webpage masquerading under the url of a JPEG.

  28. Great on OS X by d3xt3r · · Score: 5, Informative
    Posting now using Moz 1.1 Beta on OS X. There are significant speed improvements to the interface and the Aqua fonts look great.

    Mozilla has become so much better than IE lately that there is never a need to switch back and forth. Thanks Mozilla team, keep up the great work!

    1. Re:Great on OS X by Anonymous+Cowrad · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, but there's no way I can see to disable font smoothing. I understand that most people thing font smoothing is the best thing since gravy fries, but I can't stand it in a browser.

      Oh, well, back to 1.0.

      Yes, I am too stupid to fill out a bug report.

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      pants ahoy
    2. Re:Great on OS X by Maserati · · Score: 1

      I concur. Browsing in a really nice font (agency standard is FuturaBook), in Aqua, in Mozilla is reason enough to go get a Mac. I cannot overemphasize the importance of excellent text onscreen.

      To be fair, IE looks great under OS X too.

      Go tinker with a Mac browser in a store sometime. It has to be seen.

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      Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1992-1951
    3. Re:Great on OS X by cicatrix1 · · Score: 1

      You like big, clunky, hard-to-read fonts, or am I missing something?

      --

      I know more than you drink.
    4. Re:Great on OS X by captainktainer · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm glad that it works great on OS X, but on Windows boxes it's still important to use Internet Explorer for a few things. Note: a few. A very few, but there's still a need, unfortunately. A few examples: 1) Banking/ultrasecure sites often make multiple browser checks that compatibility modes don't always overcome. Chase Online Banking, for one, croaks on Mozilla. I wouldn't patronize them, but a family member needs it so when he uses the computer IE goes up. Then IE goes down. Family member swears. I laugh. 2) Some flash sites croak. Newgrounds.com, for one, refuses to display some flash movies to me- despite their use of PHP, which seems to indicate open source-friendliness, the implimentation of Flash for Mozilla doesn't seem to agree with them. 3) Certain sites with embedded music don't like Mozilla- even though they're going beyond the standards and making the site less accessible, if one wants to fully experience the site IE is still necessary. 4) Certain programs will embed links into their programs in such a way that only IE comes up. The headaches are numerous, especially when several Mozilla windows are open. Memory usage doubles as the most inefficient browser in the world awakes and thrashes about. Poor Mozilla, so accomodating to other programs, can't take the strain. Mozilla and IE both go down. A good example is RuneScape, available from www.runescape.com. When their ads are clicked IE opens. I don't click ads. Sucks for them. Still, it would be great if Mozilla could emulate IE well enough to redirect requests and calls from this program away from IE. This is a small list, but in the interest of expanding Mozilla's usability for IE users interested in switching, I propose a Compatibility Module for Mozilla. When installed, it would provide support for some of the bad HTML IE loves so much, certain IE-only plugins, and hopefully would insert tags and emulate behavior that would allow Mozilla users to fully access IE-only sites. For all intents and purposes, Mozilla would become Internet Explorer 6.0 (or 5.5, or whatever) in the eyes of the web. Downsides? There are several. Patent issues, legal issues, more coding headaches, and important for the advocacy team, statistics issues. With these browsers identifying themselves as Internet Explorer, site owners would have little incentive to respect Web standards and code away from IE's idiosyncracies. This last issue is why I propose that there be a compatibility module, not patch. It needs to be loadable and unloadable as needed or wanted, preferably according to the needs of a particular site. Mozilla still has some hurdles it needs to overcome. To be honest, it's still somewhat slow and rather leaky, and the widely touted QuickLaunch has caused a rather serious bug that trashes preferences, at least in recent builds. It also gives up too much to other programs memory wise- many open windows can cause absolute disaster. It's coming along great, and I like it infinitely more than IE. It just needs a little more to push it over the edge and into exponential growth.

    5. Re:Great on OS X by captainktainer · · Score: 1

      Infinite apologies for the poor formatting.

    6. Re:Great on OS X by Anonymous+Cowrad · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, you're not missing anything. I prefer my fonts big, clunky, and hard to read. I know, it's kooky. I just wish it was a user preference.

      Damned whippersnappers and their smooth fonts...

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    7. Re:Great on OS X by sahala · · Score: 2, Informative
      When installed, it would provide support for some of the bad HTML IE loves so much.

      I understand that IE has a history of supporting shite HTML, but IE's support of W3C standards is rather good. Also keep in mind that Mozilla still supports some of Netscape's "bad" tags and has some pretty kludgy support of the current DOM recommendation.

      The nice thing about Mozilla, however, is how it handles this backwards compatibility by looking at the document type (html version, etc.). Old versions get rendered with "classic" (flawed) Netscape ways, and new versions get the latest and greatest rendering implementation.

      Despite quirks on either side of the fence, it's almost gotten to the point that web developers can now work toward the common DOM standard.

    8. Re:Great on OS X by Graymalkin · · Score: 2

      Font smoothing on my Powerbook looks like shit sometimes. I have an old skool G3/333 Lombard, 14" diagonal inches of screen real estate but only 1024x768 pixels of resolution. Font smoothing is hit or miss on it. Larger font sizes usually don't look so bad but the super small font say...slashdot uses to tell you how many rabid squirrel ninjas made your page for you is unreadable with smoothing on. Scrolling is also bitch slow under Moz and OSX. Under 9 it is damn smooth and I don't need to worry about not being able to read text. Of course some fonts have actually sliced through my retinas. I just can't win.

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    9. Re:Great on OS X by jesser · · Score: 1

      There's probably a pref in your operating system to disable smoothing or disable it for small font sizes. It wouldn't make sense for an individual app to control that.

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    10. Re:Great on OS X by blank · · Score: 1

      it's harder to read when it's trim and fuzzy looking. i switch back to the big, clunky, hard-to-read fonts and my eyes are more comfortable.

      i love anti-aliasing in games though.

      --

      bah. start over

    11. Re:Great on OS X by indiigo · · Score: 2

      I am an exchange admin and it works much better on Outlook web access, both with certificate exchange, ease of use for end-users, and render speed (by about 3 times over a 768 upload link). We offer a link right on the front page for end-users...

      How ironic.

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    12. Re:Great on OS X by dsb · · Score: 1

      How do you completely remove the default install of IE on OS X, so that I can be completely free of the borg?

    13. Re:Great on OS X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Im thinking bad html means stuff like

      hi

      or not closing a table and other such nonsense, the html is broken but ie makes a guess at what the author wanted. Which is a bad thing to do cause then the author doesn't notice the error and gets weird results in other browers (including other versions of IE)

    14. Re:Great on OS X by laurens · · Score: 1

      About the flash: I believe the more recent versions of Flash for Moz support scripting. This wasn't the case until a week or so ago. Check it out.

    15. Re:Great on OS X by umm+qasr · · Score: 3, Informative
      Why don't you just change this line
      pref("font.size.nav4rounding", true);
      to this:
      pref("font.size.nav4rounding", false);
      in your prefs.js file?

      Seems logical to me =)

    16. Re:Great on OS X by lamp77 · · Score: 1

      That's interesting, our OWA won't even let us connect with Mozilla.

      B.

    17. Re:Great on OS X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're missing the fact that some of us think that anti-aliasing, font smoothing, whatever you want to call it, looks like shit.

    18. Re:Great on OS X by TWR · · Score: 2
      Scrolling is also bitch slow under Moz and OSX.

      It's not just Moz. It's every app under OS X. Apple didn't do scrolling right in 10.0 and 10.1. The entire window gets redrawn rather than just the scrolled bits. 10.2 fixes this.

      -jon

      --

      Remember Amalek.

    19. Re:Great on OS X by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 1
      "Yeah, but there's no way I can see to disable font smoothing. I understand that most people thing font smoothing is the best thing since gravy fries, but I can't stand it in a browser."

      Strange - I can't stand font smoothing. It makes me think I need a new eyeglasses perscription. It feels like the contents of the page are being obscured by some sort of eye-candy effect. I always turn all the font anti-aliasing options off in my OS/browser and then things look normal again.

    20. Re:Great on OS X by nehril · · Score: 2

      get tinkertool (search versiontracker.com for it). install it, then tell it to disable antialiasing for fonts smaller than, say 10 pts. then come back to the 1.1b promised land!

    21. Re:Great on OS X by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2
      "A very few, but there's still a need, unfortunately. A few examples: 1) Banking/ultrasecure sites often make multiple browser checks that compatibility modes don't always overcome. Chase Online Banking, for one, croaks on Mozilla. I wouldn't patronize them, but a family member needs it so when he uses the computer IE goes up. Then IE goes down. Family member swears."

      I hear you and I hate this. But if you are in Canada, this may be of interest: All of the online components of President's Choice Financial banking (don't laugh, it is run by the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce and you can only get it in Canada) work quite nicely with Mozilla. I can actually pay my visa from linux. It is a joy.

    22. Re:Great on OS X by roca · · Score: 2

      I use Chase Online Banking with Mozilla ALL THE TIME. Works great.

    23. Re:Great on OS X by bhamm · · Score: 2, Informative

      Apple is listening regarding the antialiasing. The upcoming 10.2 has 4 levels of smoothing (at least it does in the build i have). Here's how they're listed in system prefs:

      Standard - best for CRT
      Light
      Medium - best for flat panel
      Strong

      Then, there's also 'turn off smoothing for sizes smaller than [popup]'

      I've got my Powerbook on 'light' and it looks great. 10.1 had too much in my opinion didn't look good on my LCD screen.

    24. Re:Great on OS X by AeiwiMaster · · Score: 1


      I you like Mozilla to warn you about shit html
      then go and vote for bug 47108 in bugzilla.

    25. Re:Great on OS X by AeiwiMaster · · Score: 1


      Sorry use this,
      bug 47108

    26. Re:Great on OS X by AeiwiMaster · · Score: 1

      Middle clicking (opens new tab) works in galeon
      and the link is
      http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4710 8

    27. Re:Great on OS X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still, it would be great if Mozilla could emulate IE well enough to redirect requests and calls from this program away from IE.

      You probably have Mozilla setup to be the default for .htm and .html files, but NOT for the http and https protocols.

      Go to preferences, advanced, system and check the boxes for http and https. That should stop IE from randomly starting up.

      HTH

    28. Re:Great on OS X by Anonymous+Cowrad · · Score: 1

      Lots of individual os x apps let the user control font smoothing. Internet Explorer and Office v.X are two prominent examples of this.

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    29. Re:Great on OS X by Eil · · Score: 2


      I understand that IE has a history of supporting shite HTML, but IE's support of W3C standards is rather good.

      Um, don't forget that HTML is a W3C standard! :P

      However, though my own tests, I've found that IE's standards compliance is lacking at best. The most particularly harmful oversight is the somewhat narrow subset of CSS2 that IE supports. I wish I could remember an example or two off the top of my head, but some of the neat things that CSS2 do to make web pages easy to maintain or look good don't seem to be supported in IE.

      The second "misfeature" of IE, in my opinion, is lack of PNG alpha support. One can do some pretty ingenious stuff with HTML 4.0, CSS 2, and transparent/translucent PNG images.

      Just not in IE.

    30. Re:Great on OS X by sahala · · Score: 1
      However, though my own tests, I've found that IE's standards compliance is lacking at best. The most particularly harmful oversight is the somewhat narrow subset of CSS2 that IE supports.

      Yeah I find this to be true as well. For instance scrollable tables (tables that have their headers fixed) do not work in IE and require a javascript workaround. In Netscape it works fine, however.

      But for some reason I just find IE easier to develop for when building more interactive web applications. First thing off the top of my head in support of the onscroll event, which for some reason Mozilla doesn't support even though it's a pretty useful event (I could be wrong in the most recent release). It's a pain in the ass to use a javascript workaround to simulate an onscroll.

    31. Re:Great on OS X by Eil · · Score: 2


      As a side note, I submitted a bug report to M$ about the lack of CSS support (amid their advertising that IE 6.0 has "100% standards-compliant CSS").

      I highly suspect that even CSS1 is not fully implemented, but I could be wrong. But CSS2 sure ain't.

    32. Re:Great on OS X by sahala · · Score: 1
      I highly suspect that even CSS1 is not fully implemented, but I could be wrong. But CSS2 sure ain't.

      Here's a decent reference that I've been using lately. Not sure how often it's updated but it's not bad. The link I'm giving is for the syntax, but click on the other navigation at the top to check out other CSS support.

      Mozilla isn't listed, but we can assume that Netscape == Mozilla .9x

  29. Well! Oga/! by plurrbat · · Score: 0, Redundant

    As someone who's worked on Mozilla, I have to say very little. Recently, I nearly gutted an Opera user. The sentiment of them is "Mozilla is a bloated peice of shit that crashes too much and is useless". To that, I responded "You're going to need your last backup tape". . With this release, Mozilla gets stronger and better. More power to those that use it.

  30. you pervert. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    YOUR SICK!

    caps are like yelling but since that's perverted i am yelling.

    1. Re:you pervert. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Their sick what?

  31. THE TROLL'S MANIFESTO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The Conscience of a Troll
    by Anonymous Coward
    Written on July 23, 2002

    Another one got modded down today, it's all over the discussion. "-1, Flamebait", "-1, Offtopic"...

    Damn trolls. They're all alike.

    But did you, in your karma-whore psychology and JonKatz technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the troll? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him,what may have molded him?

    I am a troll, enter my world...

    Mine is a world that begins with slashdot. I'm smarter than most of the other posters, this crap they post us bores me...

    Damn underachiever. They're all alike.

    I'm in my LUG. I've listened to presenters explain for the fifteenth time how to mount a floppy. I understand it. "No, Mr. Stallman, I didn't show my code. I did it in my head."

    Damn kid. Probably violated the GPL. They're all alike.

    I made a discovery today. I found a computer.

    Wait a second, this is cool. It posts what I want it to. If it gets modded down, it's because I screwed it up.

    Not because it doesn't like me...
    Or feels threatened by me...
    Or thinks I'm a smart ass...
    Or doesn't like posting and shouldn't be here...

    Damn kid. All he does is post crap. They're all alike.

    And then it happened. A door opened to a world rushing through my phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a first post is sought... a board is found.

    "This is it... this is where I belong." I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all.

    Damn kid. Wasting the moderators' again. They're all alike.

    You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed reposts when we hungered for news... the stories we submitted were rejected as if they were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by editors, or ignored by the posters. The few that had something to say found us willing readers, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.

    This is our world now... the world of the crapflood and the flame, the terror of the post. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be l33t if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us trolls.
    We explore... and you call us offtopic. We seek after knowledge... and you call us flamebait.

    We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us trolls. You DDoS websites by slashdotting, you bash MS, you censor, spam, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the trolls.

    Yes, I am a troll. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outposting you, something that you will never forgive me for.

    I am a troll, and this is my crapflood. You may mod down this individual, but you can't mod us all...

    After all, we're all alike.

  32. Hebrew Support? by Erwos · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually, I've had really good luck with Hebrew support in Linux, much more so than Windows. I don't visit all too many Hebrew sites, but it seems to me everything's been rendering fine for a while now. The spacing is a little dodgy, though, and that could be what was fixed. That'd be nice.

    In case any of you are paticularly interested in seeing an example (even if ya can't read it), check out:
    http://www.haaretz.co.il

    Conversely, a good check of Arabic support is at:
    http://www.wafa.pna.net/AraText/arabic.htm

    I can see that using Moz 1.0rc1, some of that Arabic is _definitely_ not rendering correctly. I'm not a speaker of the language, but it's pretty obvious some stuff is being rendered incorrectly.

    I linked both an Israeli web site and a Palestinian web site to keep accusations of political bias away. It seems there's always _someone_ who would complain if I just gave an Israeli website in both Arabic and Hebrew. Everyone happy?

    -Erwos

    --
    Plausible conjecture should not be misrepresented as proof positive.
    1. Re:Hebrew Support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      You zionist murderer.

      Your terrorist army just blew up a house with women and children in it, better thank the americans for your ability to blow up residential houses from the safety of a jet.

      To quote the new york times:

      "the manager of the emergency room at Shifa Hospital, Moawia Haasanin, said 7 of the 11 people killed were children."

      Way to terrorize the innocents you racist murderer.

    2. Re:Hebrew Support? by Blackneto · · Score: 0

      When you visit a Hebrew website does the scroll bar flip to the other side?

      --
      Ursula Andress, Catherine Deneuve, and Charo, twice...
    3. Re:Hebrew Support? by Erwos · · Score: 1

      Notably, I'm not Israeli. Go troll somewhere else.

      -Erwos

      --
      Plausible conjecture should not be misrepresented as proof positive.
    4. Re:Hebrew Support? by Erwos · · Score: 1

      Good question, the answer is no. This is mostly due to the fact that you're still scrolling up and down like normal, and moving that particular scrollbar serves no purpose. I'd think it would be confusing, even - every other app has it on the right, why should it switch when it hits a Hebrew page?

      -Erwos

      --
      Plausible conjecture should not be misrepresented as proof positive.
    5. Re:Hebrew Support? by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

      And what happens when you have English and Hebrew text on the same page? Or vertically oriented Asian text? Do I get scroll bars on every edge? :-)

      --Joe
    6. Re:Hebrew Support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who cares? Those islamic nutcases like blowing themselves up so much, Israel was just giving them a hand. Well done!

    7. Re:Hebrew Support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Your still a zionist who gives support to israeli state sponsored terrorism.

    8. Re:Hebrew Support? by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      Your terrorist army just blew up a house with women and children in it, better thank the americans for your ability to blow up residential houses from the safety of a jet.

      Civilians might beware that hanging out with a terrorist leader is bad for their health.

    9. Re:Hebrew Support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you condone killing of children then don't complain when your children are killed and don't bitch when people praise the holocost, 6 million down, 6 million to go.

    10. Re:Hebrew Support? by SailorBob · · Score: 1

      Something that I've noticed is that while the rendering of Hebrew is great, printing is horrible! Try printing out a page from say www.maariv.co.il and see how screwed up the spacing comes out in comparison to how it's rendered on screen.

      --

      Woopty Doo Basil, what does it all mean?!

    11. Re:Hebrew Support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If you condone killing of children then don't complain when your children are killed

      The terrorist leader's children are dead because their parents wanted them dead -- they were used as human shields. Pawns in life, pawns in death.

      6 million down, 6 million to go

      ...not that you condone murder.

    12. Re:Hebrew Support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Until idiots quit blowing themselves up your words are pretty shallow. Blowing yourself up and taking out a lot of innocents is not a very reasonable way to gain support for your cause, especially if you are going to lash out at Israel for killing innocent citizens. This isn't rocket science. You do realize that one of the people killed was responsible for dozens of murders himself?

      With that said the Palestinian people have my support with regard to having their own country and I feel that Israeli settlers should stay in the established Israeli areas instead of begging for trouble.

      But on the other hand it doesn't make any sense that Arafat denied an agreement a couple of years ago that was totally what he wanted aside from the Lebanese refugee thing. And supporting suicide bombers is a complete example of shooting yourself in the foot repeatedly, the act of suicide bombing is one of the most retarded things a human being can do. So now Hamas is going to gain retribution by killing some more Israeli civilians. Good idea :P Most of Europe, the USA, and half the rest of the world is criticizing the attack you mention and now Hamas is going to go shoot itself in the foot again. Fucking idiots.

    13. Re:Hebrew Support? by lab16 · · Score: 1

      " Actually, I've had really good luck with Hebrew support in Linux, much more so than Windows."

      Ah, so Linux favors God's peoples' language.
      That must mean that God probably favors Linux!

      And Microsoft thought they had problems with Linux before. :-)

    14. Re:Hebrew Support? by epsalon · · Score: 1

      I tried printing and I got only spacing, no hebrew characters at all!

  33. Size of Mozilla.... by ndnet · · Score: 1

    Personally, I"m wondering if they may ever get it down from the current ~10MB size. It's a bit annoying, because even though IE is no lightweight, not everyone would jump from Outlook Express to Mozilla Mail, and I just want to use a lightweight Gecko implementation.

    K-Meleon is rather old (the newest build is almost a year old!) and a bit buggy.

    Personally, what I would like to see is a way to make Mozilla/Gecko interchangable with IE in Explorer windows (IE, I'm in folder X, I'll just type a URL in the toolbar and go...).

    1. Re:Size of Mozilla.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Personally, what I would like to see is a way to make Mozilla/Gecko interchangable with IE in Explorer windows (IE, I'm in folder X, I'll just type a URL in the toolbar and go...).

      Um, it is.

    2. Re:Size of Mozilla.... by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 1

      You want to see big? Wait 'til they integrate this into AOL 8.0(?). Now THAT will be a big puppy.

    3. Re:Size of Mozilla.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cripe.. ns4 is 25+

      Aside from making each application it's own seperate download or seperating bits into libraries, I don't know how they could make it any smaller.

      I would prefer to have a single package that you can download, vs having to deal with mozilla turned gnome or something. :)

    4. Re:Size of Mozilla.... by ultrabot · · Score: 1

      t's a bit annoying, because even though IE is no lightweight, not everyone would jump from Outlook Express to Mozilla Mail

      And god only knows why. I am using mozilla mail as my default mail client for a while - I switched from HP's archaic OpenMail Client (omgui). I tried Outlook for a while, but it was even worse than OpenMail. Mozilla Mail doesn't really get all the attention it deserves!

      --
      Save your wrists today - switch to Dvorak
    5. Re:Size of Mozilla.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True! but if I could only find a spell checker :)

    6. Re:Size of Mozilla.... by The+Grey+Eminence · · Score: 1

      Who needs a spell checker when you've got a fully functional brain.

    7. Re:Size of Mozilla.... by ndnet · · Score: 1

      I don't want to see folders in Mozilla, I want to see Gecko-rendered HTML in Windows Explorer.

      This is an ease-of-use issue. With IE, it's transparent. Can you switch EVERY explorer window, as in My Computer, etc., to do this? I'm on a 566Mhz Celery-on, and speed is an issue, since I'm running Win2K with only 128MB RAM. One way I work around this is by, when I want to open a few sites at once, opening a few folders from the desktop. IE proper isn't loading a seperate URL, so it's fast, and by the time dial-up is complete I've got all my URLs ready. Silly and contrived, but it works.

    8. Re:Size of Mozilla.... by Salsaman · · Score: 1
      Can you switch EVERY explorer window, as in My Computer, etc., to do this?

      Ermmm, maybe, but Microsoft are currently involved in a very big trial about this at this very moment (you may have heard of it - if not do a search for 'Microsoft' 'Antitrust' and 'comingling'). Bill says it's impossible. Nine of the US states say it isn't.

    9. Re:Size of Mozilla.... by ndnet · · Score: 1

      Microsoft's anti-trust case is for many reasons, and while this is one of them, the exact point is the ability to undo it.

      If Netscape or Opera were to offer comingling that could be switched on and off, they would not be under scruteny(sp?).

      Also, like I said, there are many other reasons, such as forcing OEMs like Dell and Gateway to install IE and NOT install Netscape.

      Personally, I like the feature, but wish I could just use the Gecko renderer.

  34. Venkman, XUL... ? by rsborg · · Score: 2

    What's next, CrossTheStreams ?
    These guys sure loved Ghostbusters :-)

    Seriously, I run 'zilla 1.1a on all my machines... (linux router, home machine, all my work machines) What does 1.1b have to offer? Stability? Features? Hmmm..?

    btw,
    1) does anyone how I can unload plugins? Flash 5 is driving me up the wall.
    2) where I can find benefical plugins (like the jre) that work?

    --
    Make sure everyone's vote counts: Verified Voting
  35. Tips for searching Bugzilla by jesser · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mozilla.org gets a lot of duplicate bug reports: 40-50% of a sample of bugs from April 2002 are dups. If you know how to search Bugzilla, you can get that down to 15-20%. (Knowing some jargon helps too, of course.) Unfortunately, the most widely advertised Bugzilla search tool, the query builder, is so complicated that many testers give up before finding their bug and report a duplicate.

    There's a well-hidden search box on the Bugzilla front page that works a lot like Google. You can almost use it like Google, but there are several differences you should be aware of:

    • Each word is matched as a substring of the summary (and several other fields). A search for 'auto compl' will match "auto-complete", "auto complete", and "autocompletion".
    • Like in Google, you can use | to create disjunctions. For example, a search for 'address|location|url bar|field focus' will match "focus does not move when clicking outside of location bar". While "or" is usually unnecessary for general web searches, it is indispensible when searching for a specific bug report.
    • By default, Bugzilla only searches for open bugs. If you're looking for a bug that has been reported several times, it may help to include duplicates in the search. One way to do this is to prefix the search with 'ALL ' in all caps. For example, 'ALL rename exe' will lead you to an often-reported bug (120327) that I should be helping bz to fix instead of posting this comment, while 'rename exe' will not find anything.
    • If you know that the bug you're searching for is visible and popular, try adding 'votes:2' to your search. For example, 'ALL votes:2 context menu back' will find the newest flamewar-bug about the back command in the context menu among the 42 bugs that match 'ALL context menu back'. Searches that use votes:2 are several times faster than searches that include all bugs because bugzilla can start the search with an integer comparison.
    • The search includes several fields, not just the bug summary (title). For example, in a search for 'mail compos focus', the word "mail" can appear in either the product name (MailNews) or the bug summary, and "compos" can appear either in a component name (Composition) or in the summary (compose, composing, etc). To restrict a search term to the summary, use '+term'.

    Other useful tools for avoiding reporting duplicates include the frequently reported bugs list and #mozillazine on irc.mozilla.org. If you find yourself working in Bugzilla a lot, you can use the collect buglinks bookmarklet to get a list of bugs mentioned in a given bug report, which is useful because many bug reports include links to related bugs.

    --
    The shareholder is always right.
    1. Re:Tips for searching Bugzilla by glens · · Score: 1

      It would be too late at this point anyway, since it's already topped-out, but I've got to say "Damn! Why did my moderator access run out earlier today? Give this one a mod up, it still deserves it."

      That information would have been quite nice to have about 24 hours ago...

    2. Re:Tips for searching Bugzilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude. We just want to browse the net. Chill the fuck out!

    3. Re:Tips for searching Bugzilla by blackcat++ · · Score: 1

      This should be posted somewhere on bugzilla.mozilla.org where it's visible. Maybe make a big link "search bugzilla" with a longer search field and this text underneath. Thanks for this cool information!

  36. http referrer by Cardhore · · Score: 1

    Bugzilla is checking the HTTP referrer field, and seeing that slashdot.org redirected you, it gave you that page. So what you wanna do is open up your prefs.js file, and add this line:

    user_pref("network.http.sendRefererHeader", 0);

    Pick 0 for no referres ever sent, 2 for always send, and 1 for images only.

    1. Re:http referrer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or they could just open a new window/tab and cut/paste the link into it...

    2. Re:http referrer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The value of 1 came in a patch by the PornBrowser team, did it?

    3. Re:http referrer by jesser · · Score: 1

      The value of 1 came in a patch by the PornBrowser team, did it?

      Many free web hosts (not just porn hosts) require each image request to include the correct referrer. I wouldn't expect the "images only" setting to work on porn sites, because the browser doesn't know whether a link (such as a thumbnail) links to an image or an html page.

      - Jesse, member of the unofficial Mozilla porn-browser team.

      --
      The shareholder is always right.
  37. MOD PARENT UP (+1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or waste your mod point by modding ME down.

  38. MOD PARENT DOWN by RedSynapse · · Score: 5, Informative
    The parent comment is *NOT* the release notes from 1.1Beta which this story is about. This is the release notes for 1.1ALPHA which was released over a month ago. The release notes for 1.1BETA are as follows.
    • Improvements to Arabic shaping which result in better layout of Arabic pages on Linux and other platforms without their own Arabic support.
    • A bug was fixed which caused English text in text boxes to be displayed in the wrong direction on Hebrew pages.
    • The JavaScript Debugger has gone through a major development cycle. It now sports a palette of nine views which can be rearranged within the main window, or docked in separate floating windows. It is also possible to create user defined views and commands directly with JavaScript. More details are available in the FAQ, newsgroup, or IRC channel.
    • Distinct window icons on MS Windows for the different Mozilla applications
    • Mozilla on Linux now has Fullscreen mode. (press F11)
    • All Search entry points now your default search engine.
    • Improved site compatability and rendering.
    • The tab bar now has a button for creating new tabs.
    1. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by BrookHarty · · Score: 2

      Wheres the spell checker? They said it was going to be out with 1.0, Now 1.1 is almost out, its not mentioned. I use mozilla for my mail, and if you have read my past slashdot posts, you could tell I need a spell checker. (-;
      -
      icewm 1.2.0 out!

    2. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by asa · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wheres the spell checker? They said it was going to be out with 1.0

      Who said it was going to be out with 1.0? Certainly not me. You can get an open-source spellchecker at mozdev.org that works with some Mozilla releases but I'm not sure if they've updated it to work with 1.1beta.

      --Asa

    3. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by BrookHarty · · Score: 2

      Actually, Kinda got the hint from the page itself.
      http://spellchecker.mozdev.org/

    4. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by thales · · Score: 2
      Then the $64,000 question is when will Mozilla get the spell checker?

      The one at Mozdev is pretty good, but it isn't going to get the kind of testing it needs until it's checked into the Mozilla tree, and right after the 1.1b release will give 5 weeks to hash any remaining bugs out.

      --
      Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est
    5. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by 1u3hr · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      Then the $64,000 question is when will Mozilla get the spell checker?

      When will Slashdot editors USE their fucking spell-checkers?

      MOZLLA? Slashdot does 6 or 8 stories a day. About one per editor. I used to edit 80 stories a day for a news site.

    6. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Oh goodness grief. If Slashdot readers put in half the effort of bitching into making a spell-checking feature for Slashcode they'd have the problems dealt with by now.

    7. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by Bistronaut · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Hey! I said that they were from the 1.1 alpha release notes! I posted them for the people moving from 1.0 to 1.1beta! (like me) Are the moderators so fickle that they'll mod a post down from +4 to -1 without reading it?

    8. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by Alsee · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      If Slashdot readers put in half the effort of bitching into making a spell-checking feature for Slashcode they'd have the problems dealt with by now.

      Quite possibly true, which leads me to the following intriguing hypothosis:

      (programmer && bitching) == NULL

      -

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      - - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
    9. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      -- Are the moderators so fickle that they'll mod a post down from +4 to -1 without reading it?

      Whoa! Just how much are you expecting of the moderators in here????

  39. Re:Venkman, XUL... ? by Random+Bystander · · Score: 1

    On Linux, it's as simple as removing the file or symlink to libflashplayer.so
    The Sun JRE has consistently worked for me. After installing it, I made a symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins to the jre plugin. Didn't even need to restart Mozilla.

  40. THE TROLL'S MANIFESTO (+5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The Conscience of a Troll
    by Anonymous Coward
    Written on July 23, 2002

    Another one got modded down today, it's all over the discussion. "-1, Flamebait", "-1, Offtopic"...

    Damn trolls. They're all alike.

    But did you, in your karma-whore psychology and JonKatz technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the troll? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him,what may have molded him?

    I am a troll, enter my world...

    Mine is a world that begins with slashdot. I'm smarter than most of the other posters, this crap they post us bores me...

    Damn underachiever. They're all alike.

    I'm in my LUG. I've listened to presenters explain for the fifteenth time how to mount a floppy. I understand it. "No, Mr. Stallman, I didn't show my code. I did it in my head."

    Damn kid. Probably violated the GPL. They're all alike.

    I made a discovery today. I found a computer.

    Wait a second, this is cool. It posts what I want it to. If it gets modded down, it's because I screwed it up.

    Not because it doesn't like me...
    Or feels threatened by me...
    Or thinks I'm a smart ass...
    Or doesn't like posting and shouldn't be here...

    Damn kid. All he does is post crap. They're all alike.

    And then it happened. A door opened to a world rushing through my phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a first post is sought... a board is found.

    "This is it... this is where I belong." I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all.

    Damn kid. Wasting the moderators' points again. They're all alike.

    You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed reposts when we hungered for news... the stories we submitted were rejected as if they were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by editors, or ignored by the posters. The few that had something to say found us willing readers, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.

    This is our world now... the world of the crapflood and the flame, the terror of the post. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be l33t if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us trolls.
    We explore... and you call us offtopic. We seek after knowledge... and you call us flamebait.

    We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us trolls. You DDoS websites by slashdotting, you bash MS, you censor, spam, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the trolls.

    Yes, I am a troll. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outposting you, something that you will never forgive me for.

    I am a troll, and this is my crapflood. You may mod down this individual, but you can't mod us all...

    After all, we're all alike.

    1. Re:THE TROLL'S MANIFESTO (+5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Jeezus, could you little shitheads get over yourselves already?!? WE DON'T CARE!

    2. Re:THE TROLL'S MANIFESTO (+5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Do you have any friends outside of the Internet?

  41. new low by seanw · · Score: 0, Troll

    ok, this is a new low. you spelled "Mozilla" wrong in the FUCKING TITLE

    good work, guys

    1. Re:new low by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That makes all mozilla comments offtopic!!!

    2. Re:new low by seanw · · Score: 1, Redundant

      good point. wtf are all these people talking about this "mozilla" stuff? can't they read?

      mozlla rocks, btw

    3. Re:new low by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROTLF! +4,Fuuuny! to both of you.

  42. The best debugger until you have to use it by nkyad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First, let me assure you this is not a troll. I have been using Mozilla as my main browser for more than a year now, both under Linux and Windows. Nowadays it is my sole browser, and I open IE only when I need to test an application or check a page design.

    Venkman may well become a good debugger one day, but the version that comes with Mozilla 1.0 is a little more than a toy, a nice menu entry to have under "Web Development". It is absolutely unusable under real world situations. And the traditional lack of real documentation only adds to it uselessness.

    So, calling Venkman "the best" anything is just streching reality a little too far, even for people like me who gain their living mostly developing under/for/with Free Software.

    1. Re:The best debugger until you have to use it by asa · · Score: 4, Informative

      Point me to a cross-platform JavaScript debugger that beats Venkman from 1.1alpha (crossing at least Mac, Windows and Linux would be a good start, throwing in a dozen additional platforms would be impressive).

      If you're talking about the venkman that shipped with 1.0 then you're talking about a completely different beast. Seems kind of odd that you'd post about Venkman getting better one day than mozilla1.0 and we're telling you about one day having arrived with 1.1alpha.

      Get current, (this venkman is many months worth of development improved from the one that shipped with 1.0) read the how-to/FAQ at http://www.hacksrus.com/~ginda/venkman/faq/venkman -faq.html and then follow-up to this post pointing me to a better cross-platform JavaScript debugger and don't point me to one that doesn't do JS performance profiling because I require that.

      --Asa

    2. Re:The best debugger until you have to use it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nkyad seems to have confused "the best" with "perfect". Sure, it's better than everything else out there, but everything else sucks, so that doesn't make it the best...er, oh, wait, it does!

    3. Re:The best debugger until you have to use it by rginda · · Score: 1
      Venkman may well become a good debugger one day, but the version that comes with Mozilla 1.0 is a little more than a toy, a nice menu entry to have under "Web Development". It is absolutely unusable under real world situations. And the traditional lack of real documentation only adds to it uselessness.

      Actually, the version of Venkman that came with Mozilla 1.0 had a reasonably useful walkthrough. It even shows up as the #2 result of google search for venkman debugger. I know of a handful of people who found it quite useful in Real World Situations, I suspect there were a few more that I don't know. Did you have a specific complaint?

      The version that comes with Mozilla 1.1b is light years ahead of the previous version in many respects, but users may still be confused, intimidated, or frustrated by it. Try reading the FAQ (the walkthrough hasn't been updated yet.) If you still don't get it, try asking on the netscape.public.mozilla.jsdebugger newsgroup on news.mozilla.org, or the #venkman channel on irc.mozilla.org.

      Right now the newsgroup traffic is so slow that the chances your (reasonable, on-topic) post will get a response are near 100%. If you opt for IRC, be patient, sometimes neither of us are listening. Stick around and you'll get a response.

      At this point in the project, what I really need is good feedback from the users...

      • What is confusing about the UI?
      • What don't you like?
      • What features are missing?
      • What bugs have you run into?

      Without good, constructive feedback, it's going to be very hard to take the project to the next level.

      Rob.

  43. Heh. by plurrbat · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Gee(e^15)z! 'Mozlla 1.1 Beta Out And About'. You know, it seems people rush to be 'the one' that posts a story. Come on, people! It's kind of like the people that wish for a MUSH to go down so they could get the botspot. There are more important things. Like not getting moderated -1, Troll. Why do I have a feeling I'm going to get a 'troll'? But more on-topic wise, some people always hate other software. It's not a new concept. So, I don't take it as a suprise that Opera, Gentoo, and other users feel they 'must' chime-in on their opinion of Mozilla. Why is this? Is it that they hate the software so much they can't stand the idea of someone else using it happily? Or is it the same principal that causes 'Mozlla'?

    1. Re:Heh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It depends on WHO reports it and grolevvage used.

      For instance I reported the latest Netscape release but was not quoted. Perhaps I forgot to grovel.

  44. New bookmarklets for Mozilla by jesser · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bookmarklets are bookmarks containing javascript code. Instead of taking you to another page, bookmarklets do things with/to the current page. Here are some bookmarklets for Mozilla that I have added since Mozilla 1.0:

    "Fixing" annoying web sites:
    • Zap event handlers: removes event handlers, including those responsible for blind links and exit pop-up ads.
    • Zap embeds: removes java, flash, background music, and iframes from a page.
    • Zap colors: makes text black on a white background, and makes links blue and purple.
    • Zap: combines "zap embeds", "zap colors", and "zap event handlers".
    • Test styles: type in CSS rules to experiment or to create a temporary user style sheet.
    Web development:
    • View Style Sheets
    • View Scripts
    • View Script Variables
    Other:
    • Toggle checkboxes
    • Transfer cookies: creates a bookmarklet you can use to move cookies from one browser to another.
    • Number rows in each HTML table

    Several of these bookmarklets also work in IE 5.5, to the extent that IE supports DOM Level 2 and doesn't make me go too far out of my way to accommodate its quirks.

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    1. Re:New bookmarklets for Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      This is the best comment posted ever!

      The ability to turn-off flash is probably my number #1 request and now I can do it easily! I don't mind static graphical ads on webpages (much like I don't mind static graphical ads while reading a newspaper) but if find it very difficult to read text when there is some animated flash doing it's thing all over the place.

      I remember reading an article on some hardware review site and there were four identical ads on either side of the page for case fans. It was a flash animation with a yellow background and black fan spinning and spinning and spinning, at just the right headache inducing frequency in the foreground. I finally gave up reading the article and never went back to the site. I don't have a problem with people trying to make money off their site, but I do have a problem with people introducing stimuli that is so annoying that it makes looking at their content unplesant. Now I can just turn it off!

      Thanks!

    2. Re:New bookmarklets for Mozilla by m.batsis · · Score: 1

      Cant we simply have the source for that?

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    3. Re:New bookmarklets for Mozilla by Zathrus · · Score: 1

      Wow. Thank you for posting this. I just snagged a half dozen booklets that will make life much easier (particularly zap embeds, zap event handlers, back to first, and view cookies).

      Kudos to you and anyone who helped you.

    4. Re:New bookmarklets for Mozilla by Media+Tracker · · Score: 1

      The bookmarklets *are* source code. They are simply bookmarks whose URL begins with javascript: instead of http:

    5. Re:New bookmarklets for Mozilla by Pengo · · Score: 2


      Once in a while, a small gem will appear on slashdot and remind me why I still shop here. :)

      I went through and added those groovy little zap-embeds and they are GREAT. I have been trying for weeks to get the crapy flash to turn off and now I can do it.

      Kudo's to all involved with those little bad-boys.

      Cheers

  45. Hello by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Introduction

    The cheese wheel inexorably avoids contact with the paycheck. The steam engine goes deep sea fishing with an often outer ski lodge. When the cyprus mulch over a vacuum cleaner hides, a ball bearing gets stinking drunk.

    The tornado

    For example, a submarine behind a class action suit indicates that the optimal fairy satiates an Alaskan recliner. When a mitochondrial bottle of beer is thoroughly dirt-encrusted, a most difficult blood clot underhandedly writes a love letter to a defendant. An earring pees on the cashier over some globule, but the pathetic crane sells another vacuum cleaner behind a scythe to a false wheelbarrow. If a chess board defined by a grain of sand makes love to a crispy cyprus mulch, then a particle accelerator flies into a rage.

    A Eurasian globule

    The feline minivan earns frequent flier miles, and the buzzard defined by a ball bearing trembles; however, a senator living with the girl scout learns a hard lesson from the inferiority complex. Any chain saw can try to seduce the particle accelerator, but it takes a real salad dressing to play pinochle with the inexorably precise paycheck. Furthermore, another seldom load bearing defendant flies into a rage, and a paycheck around a light bulb seeks a roller coaster around another bartender. If a crank case makes love to the diskette, then the squid toward a mortician meditates. Now and then, an insurance agent thoroughly avoids contact with a pompous turkey.

    A microscope

    Most people believe that an orbiting diskette trades baseball cards with a movie theater, but they need to remember how secretly a statesmanlike short order cook wakes up. A paternal roller coaster is usually financial. When the accurately varigated hole puncher takes a coffee break, a slyly smelly garbage can earns frequent flier miles. For example, the phony cheese wheel indicates that the tornado near a fruit cake hesitantly gives lectures on morality to a salad dressing defined by the corporation. The carpet tack near a cargo bay, some parking lot toward a warranty, and a stovepipe beyond a freight train are what made America great!

    Conclusions

    A judge beyond the briar patch laughs and drinks all night with the snooty chestnut. A raspy burglar conquers a bowling ball. For example, another plaintiff toward a bartender indicates that the ski lodge behind a fairy finds lice on a burglar. If some rattlesnake toward a cheese wheel can be kind to a blood clot, then the elusive movie theater self-flagellates. When a photon related to a turkey is most difficult, a self-loathing bottle of beer falls in love with a pickup truck living with the paycheck.

    - posted by poopbot: providing truth in a deceitful world

    77EsrMJtcB Post #396

  46. Troll Software 1.1 beta release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its a bust.. still having problems with session management and pr0n rendering

  47. Making it red? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool Pic.
    I wonder if it would be possible to colourize the lizzard to make it red. I suck at photoshop or I'd try it myself. The red lizzard is the official mascot of Mozilla - Netscape is green.

    1. Re:Making it red? by crisco · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Quick and dirty version at http://files.cothrun.com/red-mozilla-lizard.jpg.

      There is some fringing around the 'captured' butterfly and the hue shift to red made the eye area green, I should have pulled that area out of the selection. The purple underbelly is a little disturbing as well. Maybe I'll revisit this after I've had some sleep.

      Mad props to the original poster who owns all copyrights and such.

      --

      Bleh!

    2. Re:Making it red? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried the link and it didn't work :(
      I'd really love to see this though! Keep up the good work!

    3. Re:Making it red? by crisco · · Score: 2
      --

      Bleh!

    4. Re:Making it red? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, just curious because I'm not really into image manipulation, but what was the general procedure you used for changing the color to red? I noticed that your red lizard looked a lot like the other guy's red lizard, so I figured that there's some common function that you both used. Thanks.

    5. Re:Making it red? by dollargonzo · · Score: 1

      notice the phrase "the hue shift to red" since the underbelly is white, trying to remove the green and add the red is pretty fatal. instead, what u do is select the body of the lizzard and shift the hue on the whole lizzard into (what usually is the negative) the red.

      QED

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  48. Re:Venkman, XUL... ? by rsborg · · Score: 1
    After installing it, I made a symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins to the jre plugin. Didn't even need to restart Mozilla.

    Great!
    Got any advice for my non-linux machines? That's where I'd really spend most of my time (@work, etc)

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  49. Quartz Rendering?? No antialiased Fonts for X ?? by sparkeyjames · · Score: 0, Troll

    Once again the X windowing system and the users of both Gnome and KDE desktop environments get left wanting. Ah well maybe someday day around version 2. Though by then we'll all be useing KDE 5 or 6 with Konqueror and Gnome 2.6 with Galeon 2.2 and we won't care if mozilla has good looking fonts under X because we won't be useing it.

    sparkeyjames

    If sense were common everyone would have it!

  50. hu? by WhiteKnight07 · · Score: 1

    We do not guarantee that any source code or executable code available from the mozilla.org domain is Year 2000 compliant.

    Is this some sort of joke?? I thought we got over that whole thing 2 years ago.

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    We're going to make information free Mr. Anderson, whether you like it, or not.
  51. Re:Venkman, XUL... ? by Garinwirth · · Score: 1

    user_pref("plugin.scan.4xPluginFolder", false);
    user_pref("plugin.scan.Acrobat", "-1");
    user_pref("plugin.scan.Quicktime", "-1");
    user_pref("plugin.scan.SunJRE", "-1");
    user_pref("plugin.scan.WindowsMediaPlayer" , "-1");

    The above lines go in prefs.js and should keep Mozilla from seeking plugins elsewhere on your hard drive. Edit as necessary. To get the JRE on Windows, I copied NPOJI600.dll from the Java installation to Mozilla's plugins directory. (still on 1.0 here)

    Also of use: user_pref("browser.blink_allowed", false);

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  52. In other news...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    7 future suicide bombers were stopped today before they could kill more civilians....Hey, it's the same story. Imagine that!

    FWIW, before the Americans, the French supplied the Israili defence force. However, Jews always know where to get the best stuff at cut rate prices, so sorry France.

    1. Re:In other news...... by Alsee · · Score: 2

      7 future suicide bombers were stopped today before they could kill more civilians.

      Hmmmm.... Sounds like PreCrime from Minority Report.

      -

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    2. Re:In other news...... by Erwos · · Score: 1

      Of course, PreCrime did prevent all murders, you know...

      -Erwos

      --
      Plausible conjecture should not be misrepresented as proof positive.
  53. Mozlla 1.1 huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know that Mozilla is at least version 1.0, but I haven't heard about this new Mozlla browser.

    1. Re:Mozlla 1.1 huh? by MS · · Score: 4, Offtopic
      You're new to slashdot - aren't you?

      Otherwise you would know: there's not a single posting by some slashdot "editor" which does not have typing, spelling, grammar, syntax and/or even semantic errors.

      Slashdot "editors" do not know about spellcheckers and never do proof-reading. They even don't read the articles they link to and put misleading titles, or don't read what the other "editors" published a few hours before, which result in duplicate postings.

      Please don't flame me: I also happen to make errors when writing, but at least I don't call myself an "editor", and english is the 4th language I learned.

      ms

    2. Re:Mozlla 1.1 huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't understand. Only Windows users use proper grammar and spelling. The /. editors do that so they can prove their Linux savvyness. Remember, the early versions of Slackware Linux had misspellings, illustrating how uncommercial Linux was (*cough*it's religious*cough*).

    3. Re:Mozlla 1.1 huh? by pmz · · Score: 1

      Only Windows users use proper grammar and spelling.

      Yes, and only health food is sold at gas station convenience stores. Seriously, stupid people are everywhere, Windows users included.

    4. Re:Mozlla 1.1 huh? by mandolin · · Score: 1
      there's not a single posting by some slashdot "editor" which does not have typing, spelling, grammar, syntax and/or even semantic errors.

      That is untrue. Some of the duplicate posts have none of the errors you describe.

      (kidding aside, props to the editors)

  54. The Baghdaddios by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey Everyone,
    In case you missed The Baghdaddios on Sunday at Kenny's Castaways (or if you're just a glutton for punishment and NEED to see us again!!!), here is your chance. The Baghdaddios will be among the bands scheduled to play in a special tribute to The Who's John Entwistle on Wednesday, July 24th at 9:15 PM at The Continental on 25 Third Avenue @ St. Mark's Place. There is a $5 cover charge for this show.

    Also Appearing:
    8:00 - The Jeff Gaynor Band
    8:35 - The Invasion
    9:15 -The Baghdaddios
    9:45 - The Jana Peri Band
    10:15 - The Beautiful Dreamers
    11:00 - The Foreign Legion
    11:30 - Genetic Control
    12:00 - John Montagna
    12:30 - The Subterraneans

    A memorial scooter procession will take place outside the Continental at 7 PM.

    All are welcome!

    For more on The Baghdaddios, visit www.baghdaddios.com

    If you would like to be removed from this mailing list, please send an e-mail to BaghdaddiosCentral@yahoo.com

  55. Antialiased Fonts for X by krmt · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't know what you're going on about. I run Mozilla in KDE, and I've had antialiasing for months now, well before 1.0 hit. Debian includes it as a standard install option, and it can easily be turned on and off, and it will run with any X environment, including Gnome and Windowmaker.

    Basically, if you don't have antialiasing, it's either your own fault or that of your distro.

    --

    "I may not have morals, but I have standards."

    1. Re:Antialiased Fonts for X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess the question is...do you even know what anti-aliasing is? It's a known bug. If it's working fine, why is the Mozilla crew trying to incorporate antialiasing into Mozilla? We could just tell them to go home. It's fixed already...krmt@slashdot said so.

    2. Re:Antialiased Fonts for X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But... I don't get it... my Mozilla does have antialiased fonts! All my X applications have them!

      Perhaps it's that they want to implement their own font engine outside of X's to guarantee antialias regardless of what X fontserver you run. Ho hum.

      B

    3. Re:Antialiased Fonts for X by sparkeyjames · · Score: 1

      How the hell does this one get a 5 informative.
      Yes I know X has antialiased fonts I use them daily. What The original post of mine meant is that MOZILLA still does NOT make use of antialiased fonts under X. It can use truetype and most other font types but they still look like total CRAP. I guess that apple threw enough programers and or money at that browser so that Mozilla would render things pretty under Mac OS 10. Yeah another troll. oh well.

      sparkeyjames

      If sense were common everyone would have it.

  56. Re:Quartz Rendering?? No antialiased Fonts for X ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Galeon uses Mozilla's rendering engine, so when Mozilla gets antialiased fonts, Galeon will. The GTK2 stuff is still being worked on. It's nice that you pointed out KDE's version bloat too.

  57. MSIE disk usage... ~9MB to ~30MB by green+pizza · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    I was fooling around with a fresh download of MSIE 5.2.1 on Mac OS X earlier today. The download was 7.2 MB compressed and I belive the final install took up a little over 11 MB. I didn't have time to see what the breakdown was. As I recall, version 5.1.5 for Mac OS 9 is a bit smaller, about a 5.5 MB download and 9 MB installed. Though 5.1 has fewer features and less help/readme fluff.

    MSIE + Outlook Express for Solaris and HP/UX is well over 20 MB compressed (www.microsoft.com/unix).

    It's hard to tell how much space MSIE takes up on Win32 given that it relies on libraries and bindings built into the OS and windowing system.

    That said, I think mozilla's current size isn't too bad. I'd much rather see performance improvements, especially for older machines and the latest crop of tiny all-in-one machines. (Such as those VIA Mini-ITX boxes... WinChip-like performance, but really small/quiet/cool). RAM usage could use some trimming as well.

    1. Re:MSIE disk usage... ~9MB to ~30MB by 90XDoubleSide · · Score: 2
      I was fooling around with a fresh download of MSIE 5.2.1 on Mac OS X earlier today. The download was 7.2 MB compressed

      But the Mozilla for Mac OS X download is 17.4 MB (that's well over twice the size), and we don't get the option to only download or install the browser; totally uncacceptable!

      Fortunately, Chimera is only 7.3 MB.

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      "Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity" -Alvy Ray Smith
  58. plugindoc.mozdev.org by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 2

    plugindoc.mozdev.org is what you want.

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  59. Do we need complex acronyms? by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: dmg

    Yet again the Linux so-called elite, backed up by their pseudo intellectual cohorts of the w3c conspire to ruin Linux's chances in the marketplace by sowing confusion and complexity. As someone with years of experience in the marketing world, I am constantly amazed at the willingness of the W3C and other bodies to pollute the acronym space with their content free "TLAs".

    Basic marketing 101 (and an undergrad course in psychology) would tell them that the normal person is only capable of remembering approximately 7 items of data in their short-term memory, but now we have to remember HTTP, HTML, XML, XSL, DTD, PHP, SSL, DSL, ADSL, ISDN, Perl, etc etc etc

    This is a text book example of the tail wagging the dog from a marketing perspective.

    I have been following the standardisation of the web for many many months now, but one thing has become clear, E-commerce will NEVER become popular so long as there are so many confusing acronyms involved. The guys in charge of marketing Linux absolutely MUST work to reduce the number of acronyms. One possible solution would be to merge those protocols which are not all that different. For example, why not merge XML with SGML ? (they could call it XSGML or SXGML or perhaps XMSGML), they seem to address the same problems. Or would that be too simplistic a solution for their pampered elitist ivy-league minds to comprehend ?

    If something is not done URGENTLY, and I mean URGENTLY, Linux (and other more experimental derivatives such as FreeBSD) can never hope to be taken seriously as an e-commerce platform by the people who count - the accountants.

    The miracle of Linux is that anyone actually runs it at all, considering one seems to require a masters in computer science to install it! (contrast this with NT4 which was so easy to install, we let our receptionist upgrade her own machine).

    As usual my "open source" advice is free. Hopefully this time my valuable advice will be taken into account the next time the w3c smell an acronym brewing.

    Finally, in conclusion, as an American, I am saddened that the Internet seems to have been commandeered by a European based protocol. Was America so short of talent we had to buy the HTML protocol from Tom Berners-Lee at CERN ?

    Think of the security implications of the worlds strongest economy, running an e-commerce protocol developed by a foreigner from Socialist Europe. Remember the wall has not been down for that long. Who knows what kind of trojans might be lurking within the depths of these complicated protocols.

    I am afraid I am behind Al Gore on this point, how can this be necessary in the home of smart corporations such as Microsoft and Intel ? The answer is the vast subsidies given by European socialist governments to fund development of the HTML specification.

    The solution is clear. The federal government should mandate and strongly subsidise the use of Microsoft software for all US corporations involved in e-commerce. Only with a US-developed set of protocols can we be assured of the security of our transactions.

    - posted by poopbot: because we're all crapflooders at heart

    caLNrtkX6P Post #405

  60. Re:Quartz Rendering?? No antialiased Fonts for X ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quit using ToyOS/Lunix and get a real OS. Mac OS X OmniWeb is the most Spider-Man-boner-inducing game ever!

  61. Did you check the link to the Venkman page? by Vicegrip · · Score: 2

    They have a new version, available seperately or with the beta which purportedly is considerably more complete.

    "Mozilla 1.0 comes with Venkman version 0.8.5. Venkman has made much progress since then with the 0.9.x series. If you are running Mozilla 1.0 and would like to upgrade to Venkman 0.9.x, please visit the development page. The revisions provided there are usually suitable as daily debuggers. If you do find a problem, please report a bug."

    http://www.mozilla.org/projects/venkman/

    I suggest you give it a try.

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  62. Censordot!! by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!


    Version 1.1.8 (last updated 19th July 2002 by Anonymous Coward)

    Note to moderators : Do not moderate this post down, if you do then you support the editors stance on censorship and you support the end of free speech and support evil organisations like Microsoft, RIAA, MPAA and laws like the CBTBA and DMCA

    Sign this petition, let your voice be heard!

    Slashdot is using censorship! It is trying to eridicate free and open discussion like we know slashdot to be, it has the following RESTRICTIONS in place to Censor you

    They claim they don't, but they do, wonder why their are so many trolls, crapflooders and lamers on slashdot, because they are fighting for their rights! Slashdot is trying to silence the trolls. Remove the filters, the trolls get bored, and slashdot will be troll free!
    • Lameness filters (It blocks a lot of legitmate posts)
    • Unnessary posting delays. Hasnt taco learned to touch type? A lot of posts are typed in less than 20 seconds and it is a ANNOYING DELAY! 2 minute ban? Come on, so some are faster then others, big deal, some people have more to say than others
    • Broken moderation system, The whole point is to sort the gems from the crap, yet a lot of posts designed to make a LIVELY DISCUSSION are MODERATED as flamebait! Come on, not everyone likes X, but just because some one bashes it dosent mean its Flamebait. Flame bait is more useful for DIRECT INSULTS and not legitmate discussions.
    The "troll" moderation reason is fragmented and broken, why? Because they are trying to use an obsolete usenet term on a realtime discussion, "trolls" can cover a huge blanket of ideas.
    • Crapfloods, a meaningless flood of random letters or text, which the lameness filter does a crappy job at trying to stop, besides trolls have written tools using the opensource slashcode to generate crapfloods which bypass the filter
    • Links to offensive websites, the most common one is known a http://www.goatse.cx, a awful site which shows a bleeding anus being stretched on the front page. Trolls sneak these links in by posting messages that look legitimate, but infact are sneaky redirects to the site. Common examples include rd.yahoo.com, www.linux-kernel.tk, goatsex.cjb.net, and googles "Im feeling lucky".
    • Trying to break slashdot, this is actually a good thing, as it helps test slashdot for bugs. Famous examples include the goatse.cx javascript pop-up, the pagewidening post and the browser crashing post!
    Subnet banning, this bans a user unless they email jamie macarthy with their mp5ed ipids. This is unfair, and banning a subnet BLOCKS A WHOLE ISP SOMETIMES, and not that individual user! This can cause chaos! But real trolls use annoymous proxys to get around this so THIS JUST BANS LEGITMATE USERS! Also, they are trying to censor some anoymous proxies, mainly from countrys like africa, so this yet more DISCRIMINATION!

    But, the issue that concerens us the most, is the COMMENT QUOTA. A discrimatory system that stiffles discussion, cripples the community and will ultimateley destroy slashdot unless it is removed! Annoymous cowards are allowed only 10 posts a day! This is unethical! Users with negative karma only get two! That is DISCRIMINATION! How would you like to only be able to speak once a day, just because of the color of your skin. That would be racism, and slashdot is discrimitating on people just because of a negative number in a database! BOYCOTT SLASHDOT! LET THEM DIE!

    We wan't these stupid useless restrictions REMOVED! This comment will be posted again and again until it does!

    Inportant imformation for users
    Boycott slashdot, they are pissing over their community, they are becoming like the RIAA and MICROSOFT! Do NOT TOLERATE THIS SHIT! Here are some real news for nerds sites. We don't need slashdot, slashdot deserves to die!

    MSNBC
    BBC NEWS
    News.com
    Linux online
    Linux daily news network [linuxdailynews.net]
    Weird news from dailyrotten.com
    Trollaxor, news for trolls, they are real people too!
    CNN.com
    New york times (free registration required)
    LINUX.com
    News forge
    K5
    Mandrake forum
    Toms hardware
    The register
    Kde dot news
    The linux kernel Archives
    Adequecy

    There are hundreds more, But this is where slashdot STEALS THE MAJORITY OF its "news" from.

    Punish them, here are their emails, spam them, flame them goatse them!
    Rob malda
    Jamie Macarthy
    ChrisD
    Hemos
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    The others ones apperantly dont have an e-mail, probably because ROB MALDA IS PRETENDING HE IS JOHN KATZ.

    Thank you for reading this, please feel free to repost this information, please reply to add your comments, fight slashdot and its CENSORSHIP

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  63. Open Source Development HOW-TO by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: onby

    1. Introduction

    As everyone knows, Open Source software is the wave of the future. With the market share of GNU/Linux and *BSD increasing every day, interest in Open Source Software is at an all time high.

    Developing software within the Open Source model benefits everyone. People can take your code, improve it and then release it back to the community. This cycle continues and leads to the creation of far more stable software than the 'Closed Source' shops can ever hope to create.

    So you're itching to create that Doom 3 killer but don't know where to start? Read on!

    2. First Steps
    The most important thing that any Open Source project needs is a Sourceforge page. There are tens of thousands of successful Open Source projects on Sourceforge; the support you receive here will be invaluable.

    OK, so you've registered your Sourceforge project and set the status to '0: Pre-Thinking About It', what's next?

    3. Don't Waste Time!

    Now you need to set up your SourceForge homepage. Keep it plain and simple - don't use too many HTML tags, just knock something up in VI. Website editors like FrontPage and DreamWeaver just create bloated eye-candy - you need to get your message to the masses!

    4. Ask For Help

    Since you probably can't program at all you'll need to try and find some people who think they can. If your project is a game you'll probably need an artist too. Ask for help on your new Sourceforge pages. Here is an example to get you started:

    "Hi there! Welcom to my SorceForge page! I am planing to create a Fisrt Person Shooter game for Linux that is going to kick Doom 3's ass! I have loads of awesome ideas, like giant robotic spiders! I need some help thouh as I cant program or draw. If you can program or draw the tekstures please get in touch! K thx bye!"

    Thousands of talented programmers and artists hang out at Sourceforge ready to devote their time to projects so you should get a team together in no time!

    5. The A-Team

    So now you have your team together you are ready to change your projects status to '1: Pre-Bickering'. You will need to discuss your ideas with your team mates and see what value they can add to the project. You could use an Instant Messaging program like MSN for this, but since you run Linux you'll have to stick to e-mail.

    Don't forget that YOU are in charge! If your team doesn't like the idea of giant robotic spiders just delete them from the project and move on. Someone else can fill their place and this is the beauty of Open Source development. The code might end up a bit messy and the graphics inconsistant - but it's still 'Free as in Speech'!

    6. Getting Down To It

    Now that you've found a team of right thinking people you're ready to start development. Be prepared for some delays though. Programming is a craft and can take years to learn. Your programmer may be a bit rusty but will probably be writing "hello world" programs after school in no time.

    Closed Source games like Doom 3 use the graphics card to do all the hard stuff anyhow, so your programmer will just have to get the NVidia 'API' and it will be plain sailing! Giant robot spiders, here we come!

    7. The Outcome

    So it's been a few years, you still have no files released or in CVS. Your programmer can't get enough time on the PC because his mother won't let him use it after 8pm. Your artist has run off with a Thai She-Male. Your project is still at '1: Pre-Bickering'...

    Congratulations! You now have a successful Open Source project on Sourceforge! Pat yourself on the back, think up another idea and do it all again! See how simple it is?

    - posted by poopbot: because even your grandmother can use lunix

    XLRjRSCtgd Post #407

  64. Trans. From the Host Geek Pt. 1 by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: BankOfAmerica_ATM

    SUBJECT: GREAT STOCK OPPORTUNITY!!! help me Get Big Brands on eBay I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM! PENTIUM III CPU's IN STOCK
    Begin Fwded Message:

    If someone is listening out there, HELP! I'm trapped, and I don't know where I am. I know this sounds fucked up, but I started reading about this ATM 73.9GB SCSI SCA-2 LVD 3.5 X 1.6 80-PIN 5.7MS 4MB CACHE 10,000RPM HITACHI HARD DRIVE - $269.00 - only 1 left! ITEM#... DK31CJ-72MC http://www.hardwarest.com/product.asp?sku=DK31CJ%2 D72MC+&dept_id=7 online. Yeah, not like withdrawal or anything, but this was an actual ATM, and it was alive, and posting messages to this educational website that I visit from time to time.

    Pretty soon, I realized that not only was this ATM visiting the same site I liked, but (believe it or not) this ATM was conveniently located near me!!!!! is to take advantage of the current climate in the telecommunications industry!!!! In every industry downturn, opportunities can present themselves for a small aggressive company like GloboPhone to develop relations with corporations that have networks, infrastructure, and personnel but lack sufficient customers. This is GloboPhone's advantage.

    I don't have to tell you, this was no ordinary ATM. Actually this ATM had the power to transfer its consciousness into your mind. I know it sounds ridiculus, but...it used the magnetic strip to actually go inside your mind. Well like any computer lover I am always wanting to try the new technology, so If you are ready to become the biggest man you can be, then order your supply of Magna-RX+ today! See for yourself, what thousands of satisfied men (and their lovers) have already discovered: Magna-RX+ is the world's #1 Best-Selling Penis Enlargement Formula for one very simple reason: IT WORKS AND NOTHING ELSE CAN COMPARE! I went to where the ATM told me to (his inclosure) and swiped my card.

    I blacked out and when I awoke, I was in a new place. Yeah, that's right, the ATM had actually taken ahold of my body. It had done stuff like buy a bunch of magazines and alot of candy. It was like, he and I were different partitions on my brain's hard disk,. Anyway, he took control of my body in order to topple this great conspiracy called Project Faustois-an who doesn't want to stick it to the man? This is when all the trouble started...

    So now, after a few motnths of letting him use my body (although I quit for awhile) he's gone and done this to me. Normally I "wake up" from his using my body in a convenience store near my house, and it's no trouble getting home. But this time I'm trapped in We will be on the East Coast later this year.
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    - Tuesday June 24, 6pm - 7:30pm


    Apple Store at South Coast Plaza, 3333 Bear St., Costa Mesa, CA 92626
    714-424-6331


    Mac Experts, 2300 Lincoln Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90405
    310-581-1500
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    - Tuesday July 9, 6pm - 7:30pm


    Apple Store at Fashion Island, 367 Newport Center Drive, Newport Beach, CA 92660
    949-729-4433
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    - Tuesday July 16, 6pm - 7:30pm


    Apple Store at Northridge Fashion Center, 9301 Tampa Ave., Northridge, CA 91324
    818-709-2253
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    - Tuesday July 23, 6pm - 7:30pm

    Apple Store at Glendale Galleria, 2148 Glendale Galleria, Glendale, CA 91210
    818-502-8310
    trapped in a strange place. Not a good place either. This makes me think of like, 2001 or something. But like creepy. See it's all this white under fluorescent lights and I can't see any windows or even doors. All that's in here is this old-ass terminal. Man, what the fucked happened? Then I remembered: I "picked up" the ATM on my way home from work, but I forgot that it was the fourth Thursday of the motnh. Usualy the day I host D & D for the guys. The ATM must have ben there in my body when my frends came over. Wnoder what happened then?

    Some point later, I'm here in this white room. It's scary at first, I know they're watching me. All I have in this room is this computer terminal. This has got to be the Project Fastus that's what the ATM has been trying to get inside all along. So I guess it's great that I'm (and he???) is insid, it's like I'm in the frickin' Death Star or something, but I don't see any garbage chutes or anything.

    After a few hours of clicking through on thiscomputer terminal (looks like they're running some old-ass *NIX : ) these two guys in suits come into my room from my room. Now it's serious.

    They drag me into a room full of all this really sciency equipment-you know, blooping and bleeping gadgets, big cold noises from the air conditioner. I thought I was in 2001 for a second, except instead of HAL, there's this big bald guy. He's red and pretty sweaty despite the massive air conditioning. He barks a few words to the suited guys and they go away.

    "So you've been harboring our little ATM problem," says the man nonchalantly. I don't say anything (I'm nervous). He restarts his spiel a few seconds later, this time with a bit of veins comung out of his neck.

    "Joel Shane Cross. That is your name, isn't it?" The guy went from good cop to bad cop pretty quick-which was really disturbing. I was already out of sorts with reality, waking up in nowheresville, this odd place. He just kept talking, and I started to get scared, and actually kinda angry. "We know all about you, Mr. Cross. We know that you've been allowing the ATM to inhabit your body for some time now. You've been mislead, Mr. Cross. Working for the wrong people."

    "I belive the ATM!" I told him, stickin to my guns while Istuck it to the man.

    "You'll learn in time," the red and sweaty man said it from his mouth, but the noise of his voice was all over the place. And then he was gone. Not by turning around, by like, vanishing. And the sciency room was gone too, replaced by the big white place I was stuck in. I don't know where I am. But this shit is If you are ready to become the biggest man you can be, then order your supply of Magna-RX+ today! See for yourself, what thousands of satisfied men (and their lovers) have already discovered: Magna-RX+ is the world's #1 Best-Selling Penis Enlargement Formula for one very simple reason: IT WORKS AND NOTHING ELSE CAN COMPARE!
    crazy. If someone gets this message...please help.


    END TRANSMISSION.

    - posted by poopbot: providing truth in a deceitful world

    Iiv6Bqlatk Post #408
  65. Misconceptions in Corporate Environments by havardi · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Maricopa Community Colleges in Arizona is soon to be moving from Netscape 4.x to Internet Explorer as it's supported official browser. Much to my frustration, cited reasons for the move are things like "there has been no indication of a Netscape Communicator 5.0 release. AOL has dropped support for LDAP in 'Netscape Navigator 6.x' which is not as robust as the communicator product was. Overall lack of development and support"

    I think Netscape shot itself in the foot when it released Netscape 6.0 w/o LDAP support. The clueless leaders haven't even heard of Mozilla, and they don't know LDAP support has returned, and that roaming profile support is in development. So now they are back in Microsoft's pocket, going to Outlook w/ Exchange to replace the LDAP features they think are missing in Netscape (Navigator?) 6.x. Yeah, they don't even realize it is just "Netscape" now, and should be called "Communicator" if anything else.

    1. Re:Misconceptions in Corporate Environments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good. By making statements that are so ignorant, so behind the times, so based on Microsoft propaganda, and so easily-proven false, the Maricopa officials have given you the tools you need for embarassing them, and forcing them to try to justify their decisions in a public debate. I suggest an editorial in the school paper calling for their dismissal, and replacement by people who know what they are doing.

      One note on your post. I would not say that "LDAP has returned", because it was never dropped in the first place. There was a period when LDAP support was not yet finished, and Microsoft-bought journalists tried to turn it into a scandal (which is part of the MS propaganda that the Maricopa officials have swallowed).

    2. Re:Misconceptions in Corporate Environments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could also look for "non declared extra income"... the level of corruption everywhere should no longer be a surprise after Enron, Woldcom, Merck and the rest of them.

  66. Download off of Gnutella !! by Anenga · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Download off of Gnutella !! by mlinksva · · Score: 2

      Or if you're using a real OS :) check out this ticket. MAGNET, ed2k and FastTrack links within.

  67. My favorite things by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: on by

    crapfloods and trolling and raping small kittens
    nice wider pages and wanking with mittens
    turd report packages tied up with strings
    these are a few of my favorite things

    grits covered portman and ASCII art doodles
    ACs and CLITers and Katz sex with poodles
    wild trolls that fly with plus five mod scoring
    these are a few of my favorite things

    when the ban hits, when I can't post, when I'm feeling sad
    i simply remember my favorite things
    then i don't feel so bad

    Rob Malda chugs penis in fan fiction slashes
    taco snot over my nose and eyelashes
    BSD dying and that goatse ring
    these are a few of my favorite things

    grits covered portman and ASCII art doodles
    ACs and CLITers and Katz sex with poodles
    wild trolls that fly with plus five mod scoring
    these are a few of my favorite things

    when the ban hits, when I can't post when, I'm feeling sad
    i simply remember my favorite things
    then i don't feel so bad

    - posted by poopbot: for all your crapflooding needs

    53g3zEvjTN Post #409

  68. Taco-snotting is dying by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Netcraft has confirmed: Taco-snotting is dying.

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered Taco-snotting community when recently IDC confirmed that Taco-snotting accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all homosexual acts. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that Taco-snotting has lost more fag practitioners, this news serves to reinforce what weve known all along. Taco-snotting faggots are collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Faggot World comprehensive snotting test.

    You dont need to be a Katz to predict Taco-snottings future. The handwriting is on the wall: Taco-snotting faces a bleak future. In fact there wont be any future at all for Taco-snotting because Taco-snotting is dying. Things are looking very bad for Taco-snotting. As many of us are already aware, Taco-snotting continues to lose faggotshare. White ink flows like a river of bubbly, thick jizz. The circle-snot is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core snotters.

    Lets keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    Circle-snotting leader Jeff Homos Masterbates states that there are 7000 snotters of the circle-snot. How many users of anal snot are there? Lets see. The number of circle-snotting versus anal snot posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 anal snot users. SnotOS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of anal snot posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of SnotOS. A recent article put the circle-snot at about 80 percent of the Taco-snotting market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 circle-snot users. This is consistent with the number of circle-snot Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of CowboiKneels walnuts, abysmal sales and so on, the circle-snot went out of business and was taken over by SNOTi who sell another troubled Taco-snot. Now SNOTi is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another gay whorehouse.

    All major surveys show that Taco-snotting has steadily declined in faggotshare. Taco-snotting is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Taco-snotting is to survive at all it will be among heterosexual hobbyist dabblers. Taco-snotting continues to decay. Nothing short of a jizz-soaked miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Taco-snotting is dead.

    Fact: Taco-snotting is dead.

    - posted by poopbot: for the crapflooder in all of us

    ezix9F5zwP Post #410

  69. Re:Quartz Rendering?? No antialiased Fonts for X ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hopefully by the time Mozilla 2 comes around, they'll have gotten rid of X and written a new GUI, ala BeOS or Aqua for Mac OS X.

  70. Pink page of death!! by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Either your network or ip address has been banned from this site

    due to script flooding that originated from your network or ip address -- or this IP might have been used to post comments designed to break web browser rendering. If you feel that this is unwarranted, feel free to include your IP address (1.2.3.4) in the subject of an email, and we will examine why there is a ban. If you fail to include the IP address (again, in the Subject!), then your message will be deleted and ignored. I mean come on, we're good, we're not psychic.
    Since you can't read the FAQ because you're banned, here's the relevant portion:

    Why is my IP banned?
    Â Perhaps you are running some sort of program that loaded thousands of Slashdot Pages. We have limited resources here and are fairly protective of them. We need to make sure that everyone shares. If your IP loads thousands of pages in a day, you will likely be banned. Please note that many proxy servers load large quantities of pages, but we can usually distinguish between proxy servers being used by humans, and IPs running software that is hammering our servers.

    Â Your IP might have been used to perform some sort of denial of service attack against Slashdot. These range from simple programs that just load a lot of pages, to programs that attempt to coordinate an avalanche of posts in the forums (often through misconfigured "Open Relay" proxy servers).

    Â You might be using a proxy server that is also being used by another person who did something from the above list. You should have your proxy server administrator contact us.

    Â Your IP might have been used to post comments designed to break web browser rendering.

    Answered by: CmdrTaco
    Last Modified: 7/02/02

    How do I get an IP Unbanned?
    Email banned@slashdot.org. Make sure to include the IP in question, and any other pertinent information. If you are connecting through a proxy server, you might need to have your proxy server's admin contact us instead of you.

    Answered by: CmdrTaco
    Last Modified: 3/26/02

    - posted by poopbot: because even your grandmother can use lunix

    ETVon5SJuc Post #411

  71. Re:Quartz Rendering?? No antialiased Fonts for X ? by blank · · Score: 1

    i wish i was left out. i would be happy to have the antialiasing fonts turned off. so i turned if off system wide on OSX. i squint less now.

    bleah. anyway, haven't you heard? the linux desktop is dead. i'm more worried about having usuable applications on linux than weither the fonts are anti-aliased or not.

    --

    bah. start over

  72. The "Moon": A Liberal Myth by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: 70%

    It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)

    Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors .. the next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt .45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you.

    Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!

    Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our governme

    - posted by poopbot: who doesn't like scat?

    J5dgvAu3y0 Post #412

  73. Not a Troll by King+of+the+World · · Score: 1
    Anti-aliasing is intelligent bluring - it's an averaging of detail that can't possibly fit in the current resolution.

    At low resolutions this can work against you. Infact, because of this problem, people hand-hint fonts at low-resolutions to exagerate the features and make them more readable. They change the vector to suit the bitmap rendering.

    The point is that anti-aliasing can make a font more blurry than necessary. If a letter has a straight line it would best represented with a solid line of black, not with a solid line of black with a few greys on the edge, regardless of how "true" this rendering would be.

    So anti-aliasing is intelligent bluring, and it's great most of the time, but the blurring ain't so intelligent.

    1. Re:Not a Troll by Sivar · · Score: 2

      The idea is to only blur the curved edges of the font, such as the bottom part of a lower-case "t" and all of an "o" or "0". The problem is that doing so isn't easy and is easily screwed up. The native Windows font antialiasing, as well as the antialiasing on MacOS9 (and presumably MacOSX?) actually does this pretty darn well. Some of the best techniques for font rendering are patented by Adobe, which is one reason why fonts on Linux appear more blurry and more dull than fonts on Windows.
      Gentoo Linux actually makes a small, well-known, but illegal modification to a font rendering library to improve things, but it still isn't perfect. It's a work in progress. (getting close though)

      --
      Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes. --E. W. Dijkstra
    2. Re:Not a Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's only illegal in the USA, so european linux users ca enjoy pretty fonts fully legally (until the corrupt-as-hell EPO lets the Americans into the Euro patent game...)

    3. Re:Not a Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No.

      And XFT is not a hack anymore than ClearType is a hack. XFT even came before ClearType.

  74. No SVG! by oever · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now that MathML is in Mozilla, we're all waiting for SVG. Too bad it's not in the beta.

    There is a SVG enabled build for Windows, but not for Linux )-;

    --
    DNA is the ultimate spaghetti code.
    1. Re:No SVG! by dannyspanner · · Score: 2

      According to the SVG project page, it won't be integrated until the licence conflict with libart (LGPL only) is resolved.

  75. Re:Quartz Rendering?? No antialiased Fonts for X ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linux on the desktop is dead because X sucks. Sure, if you're an engineer or a sysadmin, it works great. But if you're Joe Shmoe, the last thing you want to do is try to figure out why the hell you're KDE-enabled App won't run on a machine with only Gnome libraries, and how to get those KDE libs, and how the hell to update X fonts.

    X is awful.

  76. OPEN SOURCE MISCONCEPTIONS by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    OPEN SOURCE MISCONCEPTIONS
    By Serial Troller

    Myth: Open Source is written by heterosexuals.

    Fact: All Open Source development is done by raging homosexuals. The more flaming examples include Anal Cox, Linus Turdballs, Eric Ass-Reaming Raymond, and the entire Slashdot crew. The ringleader of the slashdotters, a man named CmdrTaco, engages in a practice known as Taco-snotting, along with his faggot-buddies Jeff Homos Bates and CowBoiKneel.

    Myth: Open Source is written for heterosexuals.

    Fact: Using Open Source software can cause suppressed homosexual fantasies to surface, leading to all out flaming faggotry within 6-8 weeks. Anecdotes of otherwise hetero men turning queer are far too numerous to count, but a few examples stand out. In one case, a man was arrested loitering outside an elementary school and making sexual overtures to several children: he quickly confessed that shortly after installing the Mozilla browser on his computer, he began to have uncontrollable urges to, to put it simply, have his cock sucked off by little boys. He soon met several other like-minded men through discussions on the Bugger Zilla mailing list (all already homosexuals), who together kidnapped a total of seven children whom they brought back to their apartment and sodomized. The other two men are still at large and believed to still be using Mozilla.

    Myth: Open Source is multicultural.

    Fact: Open Source is openly racist.

    Myth: Open Source is democratic.

    Fact: Open Source is controlled by a few narrow-minded zealots (mentioned throughout this post), most of whom are either Communists, Stalinists, Nazis, or Fascists. Additionally, Open Source supports terrorism.

    Myth: Open Source is tolerant of religious preferences.

    Fact: Open Source developers regularly engage in holy wars over the superiority of various Open Source projects, such as the Emacs program (preferred by Christians) versus vi (used mostly by neo-pagans and Satanists); or the KDE desktop (a favorite among Muslims) versus the GNOME project (particularly favored by Jews). Posts initiating crusades or jihads against other developers can be found regularly throughout the newsgroups and mailing lists.

    Myth: Open Source is tolerant of sexual preference.

    Fact: See above. Either you are a homo, you become a homo, or you never visit Richard Stallman alone in his office and hope to God you never meet him on the street at night.

    Myth: Open Source is tolerant of political differences.

    Fact: Open Source is an anarcho-communist philosophy bent on the destruction of capitalism. The very same Richard Stallman, a man whose name is disturbingly reminiscent of Stalin, has stated several times in public that his vision includes the subjugation of all who own intellectual properties under the jackboot of the GPL. The GPL is a pernicious piece of literature lifted straight from Karl Marxs Communist Manifesto, and is fortunately banned in many democratic nations.

    * * * * * UPDATE * * * * *

    Myth: Open Source programming is a harlmess, healthy activity.

    Fact: Open Source programming has been known to lead to massive obesity, violent tendencies with an obsession with handguns, paranoid-delusional ranting, and in severe cases, complete insanity. If anyone you know is thinking about going Open Source, stop them before its too late!

    * * * * * UPDATE * * * * *

    ____________________

    2002 Serial Troller. Permission to reproduce this document is granted provided that you send all the bukkake porn you can find to serialtroller@hotmail.com.

    - posted by poopbot: for the crapflooder in all of us

    rwt3WfIO3L Post #413

  77. THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ [slashdot.org]
    By J. Wipo Troll, Esq. [slashdot.org], $Revision: 1.16 $
    [This article attempts to document a vile, ungodly practice that runs rampant through the homosexual geek and hacker community, a practice known as âoeTaco-snotting,â or simply âoesnotting.â Taco-snotting is something that few geeks dare talk about in free or open conversation, but it is nonetheless a widely-practiced and dangerous form of homosexuality. If you or anyone you know has ever engaged in Taco-snotting, please get professional help [adequacy.org] before it is too late. â"ed.]

    Why do I keep receiving emails from an individual calling himself âoeCmdrTacoâ?
    You have been receiving unsolicited mailings from a certain Robert âoeCmdrTacoâ Malda [cmdrtaco.net], owner of the popular technology website slashdot.org [slashdot.org]. Actually, itâ(TM)s not a very âoepopularâ site in the common sense of the word; the site is rife with pimply, antisocial geeks and hackers, zit-faced nerds, communists, dirty GNU hippies [yahoo.com], and other societal rejects and outcasts. Itâ(TM)s also home to one of the worldâ(TM)s largest suspected pædophile rings, the infamous âoeSlashdot crew.â
    Whenever Mr. Malda gets bored (and who wouldnâ(TM)t, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the user database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual activities with him. How he determines this is anyoneâ(TM)s guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with a letter of the English alphabet in it, youâ(TM)re a potential candidate.
    This time, he found you. Lucky you.

    Mr. Malda seems to be speaking in some sort of code. Do you know what it means?
    CmdrTacoâ(TM)s code language is relatively easy to decipher. This pervert prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo (yes, thatâ(TM)s right: he wants you) to evade the watchful eye of Slashdotâ(TM)s parent corporation, VA Software [yahoo.com]. Mr. Maldaâ(TM)s âoeCommanderâ is, of course, his penis: a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants and only comes out in the presence of other male geeks or at the beck and call of Maldaâ(TM)s own lubed-up right hand. His âoeTaco bells [sonymusic.com]â are the shriveled testicles that droop beneath his Commander, and his âoeTaco sauceâ is his thin, runny semen. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means if he asked you to âoering his Taco bellsâ or âoetaste his gourmet Taco sauce.â
    I would also guess CmdrTaco asked you to engage in a practice known as âoeTaco-snottingâ and, if he was in a particularly depraved mood at the time, a âoecircle-snot.â

    Good Lord. And, yes, he did. What is âoeTaco-snottingâ?
    âoeTaco-snottingâ is the term used by Robert Malda to refer to the depraved act of fellating another man (homo- or heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumoured to prefer raping unwilling victims), then blowing the semen out his nose and back onto the face and body of his victim. Naturally, a long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTacoâ(TM)s face [go.com], dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, âoeTaco-snotting.â
    And if thatâ(TM)s not bad enoughâ¦
    A âoecircle-snotâ is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew [bastardgenres.com]. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel [aol.com], and Homos get together and snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum â" spooging their jizz-snot all over each otherâ(TM)s faces and pasty, white bodies, until theyâ(TM)re covered head to toe with their own and each otherâ(TM)s man juice. This vile, ungodly ritual can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limousine service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.
    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow faggots Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The homosexual shenanigans that follow are nearly beyond description. The whole group begins to snot each otherâ(TM)s spunk and whip each otherâ(TM)s pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

    Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?
    Hopefully, but I wouldnâ(TM)t count on it.
    To begin with, you most likely forgot to uncheck the âoeWilling to Snotâ checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad (do you have a homosexual-sounding nick?), and heâ(TM)s probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube, just waiting to pounce and declare you his new bitch. Thereâ(TM)s no escaping a geek in heat (trust me), so itâ(TM)s probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTacoâ(TM)s sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to âoeWilling to Snot.â Maybe heâ(TM)ll ignore you. Probably not.

    I canâ(TM)t stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?
    If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, hemight leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge⦠oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot all over you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

    Have you ever been Taco-snotted?
    Unfortunately, yes. I first met Mr. Malda at an Open Source Convention [amazon.com]. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some âoegourmet Tacos,â but when I got there, the perverted geek jumped me and handcuffed me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his âoeCommanderâ out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times, virtually nonstop. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm⦠then he snotted my own thick, gooey jizz back onto my face out of his nostrils! He snotted me two more times, first into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.
    CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, âoeOpen Sauceâ â" man sauce) buddies over to continue their ungodly snotfest. European hacker and known überfaggot Linux Torvalds raped my ass [yahoo.com] with his âoemonolithic kernel [yahoo.com];â his partner-in-crime Anal Cox used their âoenetwork stackâ in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice of my defenseless, tender, young body. Michael Sims was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my previously-virginal ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about âoeall those Censorware [spectacle.org] freaks out to get him.â

    That is so disgusting! How did you finally escape?
    After about 16 hours of countless unholy, homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, completely covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant â" I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door (of the apartment, not their back doors). Iâ(TM)m just glad I survived the awful ordeal. These sexually-repressed hackers had alot of built-up spunk in their wads â" I couldâ(TM)ve easily been drowned!

    Thatâ(TM)s horrible. Does âoeTaco-snottingâ have anything to do with CmdrTacoâ(TM)s âoespecial tacoâ?
    No, thatâ(TM)s a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. Mr. Malda is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll [slashdot.org] has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership [slashdot.org] about this vile practice (emphasis added):
    You may be wondering what CmdrTacoâ(TM)s âoespecial tacoâ is. You will be wishing that you hadnâ(TM)t been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his âoespecial taco,â CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, takes out his tiny withered dick (otherwise known as his âoeCommanderâ), puts his âoespecial taco sauceâ on it which means he jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim. After all, who would knowingly eat shit and CmdrTacoâ(TM)s jizz?
    After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTacoâ(TM)s nefarious homosexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victimâ(TM)s ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved. Trust me, you do not want Jon Katz anywhere near your unconscious body. Also, rumor has it CmdrTaco is looking for a new goatse.cx guy [goatse.cx]. Donâ(TM)t let it be you!
    Different ungodly perversion, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that Robert âoeCmdrTacoâ Malda is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

    Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a pædophile, not a homosexual.
    Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual pædophile. Heâ(TM)s also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Mr. Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesnâ(TM)t involve himself in the circle-snots, but that doesâ(TM)t mean heâ(TM)s any less of a freak than the rest of the Slashdot crew. Katz often engages in a game called âoejuicy-douching [aol.com]â with a harem of little-boy slaves that he has collected over the years: yet another vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boyâ(TM)s urine (forced out of them with a pair of pincers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then dribbling and slathering the goo all over himself and the boyâ(TM)s chained, naked bodies. If heâ(TM)s in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag from his distended anus and just squirt it from his ass [microsoft.com] onto the crying, terrified boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pincers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them at will. A boy will usually last about two years before Mr. Katz either accidentally drowns them in diarrhea or kills them once they get too old, usually around 13 or 14.
    Not content with being a pædophilic coprophile, Mr. Katz is also quite the zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys arenâ(TM)t enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goatâ(TM)s anus [yahoo.com]. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goatâ(TM)s small, bean-like turds, and he often kills his older boys by letting his goats trample them.

    â¦Are you getting hard writing this?
    Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

    No, thanks. Iâ(TM)m already CmdrTacoâ(TM)s boi toi.
    ________________________________________

    * The URL of this document is
    * Previous revisions are publicly available at

    $Id: tacosnotting.html,v 1.16 2001/12/28 21:20:03 wipo Exp $
    Copyright © 2001 J. Wipo Troll, Esq. [slashdot.org] Verbatim crapflooding of this document is permitted in any medium, provided this copyright notice is preserved, and next time you take a dump, you think of the WIPO Troll and all heâ(TM)s done to make Slashdot a better place.

    - posted by poopbot: for the crapflooder in all of us

    hbN32MqGyq Post #414

  78. *BSD is dying by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    It is now official. Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying


    - posted by poopbot: news for turds, stuff that splatters

    dQAsxN4O1R Post #414

  79. You werent there? by HanzoSan · · Score: 2

    You werent at last weeks meeting? Theres been a change of plans.

    --
    If you use Linux, please help development of Autopac
    1. Re:You werent there? by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      Sorry, things have been busy here - the last I heard (a few weeks ago) they were going with IE. Glad to hear they've come to their senses!

      --
      $x='S24;r)>63/* h@<5+oZ)32"5cz';$me='phroggy'x$];
      $x=~y+ -xz+\0-Tx+;print$_^chop$me for split'',$x;
  80. USian pie by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    USian Pie

    A long, long time ago I can still remember How the trollers used to make me smile And I knew if I had to boast That I could try to get first post And maybe I'd be happy for a while But moderators made me shiver With every minus they'd deliver DoS scripts couldn't stop it They scored them all "Offtopic" I know that it's cheap crack they smoke And meta-moderation's broke At first I thought it was a joke The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --
    Bye, bye, MEEPTy, OOG, and Grits guy Drove the Cruiser like some loser who starts posts with a *sigh*
    Those Steve Woston posts that we all knew were a lie Wonder what became of girls petrified? What became of girls petrified?
    --

    Did you write a bunch of Perl? And did it make you want to hurl Feces at the Wall? Can you believe these lame-ass polls? Do you post big stretched-out assholes? Can you make the goatse.cx link not show? Well I know you think that Siggy sucked Will the real Bruce Perens please stand up? The bots don't have a clue. Man, I dig those trolls from Shoe! I was a rabid Free Speech advocate With a Red Hat T-shirt and a Free Beer gut
    Bought my Sony laptop working Pizza Hut The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --

    It's been two years since the IPO And LNUX sinks to all-time lows But that's not how it used to be When Spiral showed how it was done Trolling as Jon Erikson Who worked for NPO Technologies Oh and while they tried to filter posts Somebody rooted Slashdot's host "Crack Slashdot? That's absurd!" Better go change your password While JonKatz wrote a Hellmouth book By using posts he simply took And we flamed him till he was cooked The day that trolltalk died And we were singin....

    -- Chorus --

    10 grams. Inchfan. Didn't log out. Goddamn The mods will find the sid real soon, man
    You can't hide if you aren't AC Your bud (George here) tried BSD A dead Streetlawyer's tips were free And WIPO helped letsriot turn Nazi 70 made his percents up While 80md warned "liberals suck" The moon does not exist It's just a liberal myth Oh and as Taco tried to take a nap We forced him to invoke bitchslaps Do you recall the flood of crap The day that trolltalk died? We started singin....

    -- Chorus --

    Oh and then we were wearing out "All your base" And started posting monospace
    The better for our penis birds So come on, be a zealot, be a dick You don't think Anne Marie's a chick? Because lying's all we do about HURD So go and push for BSD And say GPL isn't free Slow down, cowboy! The limit Is one post every minute Now tell the right wing facist slime Infringing on Your Rights Online That they can't censor all the time The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --

    I met a troll they called The Rev And asked him if CD BREAK HEAD He said, "That's old. Get over it." And with all the courage I could muster "Imagine what a Beowulf cluster...." But it wasn't worth the trouble to submit The karma caps are just plain jive And everyone's moved to K5 The steelcage has grown rusted And Geekizoid is busted
    The three sites I don't see for weeks Segfault, kernel, Comp-u-geek Code is not art. This ain't Freshmeat The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --

    - posted by poopbot: for the crapflooder in all of us

    jZi0fBZg0y Post #415

  81. My favorite things by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: on by

    crapfloods and trolling and raping small kittens
    nice wider pages and wanking with mittens
    turd report packages tied up with strings
    these are a few of my favorite things

    grits covered portman and ASCII art doodles
    ACs and CLITers and Katz sex with poodles
    wild trolls that fly with plus five mod scoring
    these are a few of my favorite things

    when the ban hits, when I can't post, when I'm feeling sad
    i simply remember my favorite things
    then i don't feel so bad

    Rob Malda chugs penis in fan fiction slashes
    taco snot over my nose and eyelashes
    BSD dying and that goatse ring
    these are a few of my favorite things

    grits covered portman and ASCII art doodles
    ACs and CLITers and Katz sex with poodles
    wild trolls that fly with plus five mod scoring
    these are a few of my favorite things

    when the ban hits, when I can't post when, I'm feeling sad
    i simply remember my favorite things
    then i don't feel so bad

    - posted by poopbot: crapflooding since 7/8/02

    KJ3PMVco4V Post #416

  82. Hebrew, Arabic, Java improvements Oh-my! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Three of the things I could care the least about.
    mozilla; ick.

  83. Hello by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Introduction

    The cheese wheel inexorably avoids contact with the paycheck. The steam engine goes deep sea fishing with an often outer ski lodge. When the cyprus mulch over a vacuum cleaner hides, a ball bearing gets stinking drunk.

    The tornado

    For example, a submarine behind a class action suit indicates that the optimal fairy satiates an Alaskan recliner. When a mitochondrial bottle of beer is thoroughly dirt-encrusted, a most difficult blood clot underhandedly writes a love letter to a defendant. An earring pees on the cashier over some globule, but the pathetic crane sells another vacuum cleaner behind a scythe to a false wheelbarrow. If a chess board defined by a grain of sand makes love to a crispy cyprus mulch, then a particle accelerator flies into a rage.

    A Eurasian globule

    The feline minivan earns frequent flier miles, and the buzzard defined by a ball bearing trembles; however, a senator living with the girl scout learns a hard lesson from the inferiority complex. Any chain saw can try to seduce the particle accelerator, but it takes a real salad dressing to play pinochle with the inexorably precise paycheck. Furthermore, another seldom load bearing defendant flies into a rage, and a paycheck around a light bulb seeks a roller coaster around another bartender. If a crank case makes love to the diskette, then the squid toward a mortician meditates. Now and then, an insurance agent thoroughly avoids contact with a pompous turkey.

    A microscope

    Most people believe that an orbiting diskette trades baseball cards with a movie theater, but they need to remember how secretly a statesmanlike short order cook wakes up. A paternal roller coaster is usually financial. When the accurately varigated hole puncher takes a coffee break, a slyly smelly garbage can earns frequent flier miles. For example, the phony cheese wheel indicates that the tornado near a fruit cake hesitantly gives lectures on morality to a salad dressing defined by the corporation. The carpet tack near a cargo bay, some parking lot toward a warranty, and a stovepipe beyond a freight train are what made America great!

    Conclusions

    A judge beyond the briar patch laughs and drinks all night with the snooty chestnut. A raspy burglar conquers a bowling ball. For example, another plaintiff toward a bartender indicates that the ski lodge behind a fairy finds lice on a burglar. If some rattlesnake toward a cheese wheel can be kind to a blood clot, then the elusive movie theater self-flagellates. When a photon related to a turkey is most difficult, a self-loathing bottle of beer falls in love with a pickup truck living with the paycheck.

    - posted by poopbot: because even your grandmother can use lunix

    iOFI6Gus6F Post #416

  84. Funny jokes by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Whats black, blue and green and doesnt like sex?
    The Girl Scout locked in my basement.
    Whats the worst part about having sex with a six year-old?
    Getting the blood out of your clown suit.
    Whats the best thing about getting a hand job from a five year-old?
    That little hand makes your thing look really huge.
    Guy comes home from work to find his girlfriend sitting on the porch, crying.
    Whats wrong, honey?
    Im leaving you! I just found out youre a pdophile!
    Pdophile? Why, thats a pretty big word for a ten year-old.
    How can you tell when your sisters on her period?
    When your dads dick tastes like blood!
    Two pdophiles are lying on a beach tanning, one turns to the other and says, Excuse me, youre in my son.
    What is the sickest sound you hear when fucking a nine year-old?
    Her hips snapping!
    What is the best sound you hear when fucking a 13 year-old?
    Her hips snapping!
    Whats 18 inches long, blue, veiny, and makes a woman cry?
    Crib death.
    How could the mans seven year-old son tell that his dad had fucked his eight year-old sister? His dads weiner tasted like blood!
    Watson returns home to find Holmes in bed with a child. He shouts, Is this some sort of a schoolgirl?
    Holmes replies, Elementary, my dear Watson.
    So I was having sex with my girlfriend, and I decided I wanted to get kinky and try and do her in the ass. So I slipped around back; she looked over her shoulder at me and said, My, how presumptuous of you. I said, Presumptuous? Thats a big word for a ten year-old.
    Two guys are walking down the street when a beautiful woman passes. The first guy says, Damn! Id love to tear her clothes off, do her in the rear, smear my fces all over her, slice off her breasts, chop her into little pieces, put her in a garbage bag and toss her into the river!
    Second guy says, Yuck! Youre a sick bastard!
    First guy says, Whatre you? A fag?
    A kindergarten teacher is asking the kids what their father does for a living. All the kids answer except for Little Johnny. The teacher asks Little Johnny what his Dad does and Johnny replies, My dad is dead.
    The teacher says, Thats terribile, but what did he do before he died?
    Little Johnny replies, He turned blue and shit all over himself!
    A guy calls in sick to work.
    Whats wrong? asks the boss.
    Im sick, the guy replies.
    You sound all right.
    No, Im really sick. Believe me.
    Listen, you were fine yesterday, and we have a lot of work today. I want you in here. You cant be that sick!
    Dude, I just banged my sister. Dont tell me Im not sick.
    A little girl accompanied her father to the barbershop. While her dad received a haircut, the little girl stood next to the barber chair, enjoying a snack cake. The barber smiled at her and said, Sweetheart, youre going to get hair on your Twinkie.
    I know, the little girl replied. Im gonna get tits, too.
    An older man and a small boy walk hand in hand through the woods.
    Boy: These woods sure are spooky!
    Man: You think youre scared, Ive gotta walk out of here alone.
    Whats the difference between Neil Armstrong and Michael Jackson?
    One walked on the moon, and the other rapes little boys.
    Has anyone read Michael Jacksons new book, The Ins and Outs of Child Rearing?
    Q: Whats the difference between a dead baby and a golden delicious apple?
    A: I dont cum all over the golden delicious apple before I take a bite out of it.
    Q: Whats the difference between a dead baby and my girlfriend?
    A: I dont kiss my girlfriend after sex.
    Q: Whats the difference between a dead baby and a table?
    A: You cant fuck a table.
    Q: Whats special about a dead baby over all other forms of life?
    A: You can achieve deep throat from whichever way you enter.
    Q: What do you have when you have four dead babies, take away two, and add five more?
    A: An orgy!
    Q: Whats better than three 14 year-olds?
    A: 14 three year-olds.
    Q: Whats white and bobs up and down in a babys crib?
    A: A pdophiles ass.
    Q: Whats the safest way to play with a baby?
    A: With a condom.
    Q: Whats more fun than feeling up a dead baby?
    A: Feeling up a dead baby with three nipples.
    Q: What does a baby and a Pinto have in common?
    A: Theyre fun to ride until they die.
    Q: What do you get whan you dislocate a dead babys jaw?
    A: Deep throat.
    Q: Whats the difference between a baby and a grandmother?
    A: Grandmothers dont die when you fuck them in the ass.
    Q: Whats the best sound in the world?
    A: Hearing dead babys hips crack under pressure!
    Q: Whats worse than a having sex with a dead baby?
    A: Having sex with a dead baby filled with razor blades.
    Q: How do you stop a baby from choking?
    A: Take your dick out of its mouth.
    Q: Whats worse than finding a dead baby on your pillow in the morning?
    A: Realizing you were drunk and made love to it the night before.
    Q: How do you make a baby cry twice?
    A: Wipe your bloody cock on his teddy bear.
    Whats better than sex with a twelve year-old boy?
    Absolutely nothing.

    - posted by poopbot: information likes to be narrow

    DWfYHni3Qg Post #417

  85. No, Mozilla is DAMN great on OS X. by kitzilla · · Score: 1

    I've been using 1.1A and the nightlies (now 1.1b) as my default browser on OS X. For "bleeding edge," it sure is stable. I've had ZERO crashes. It's pretty quick in the Classic skin (which best matches the OS X desktop, anyway).

    Yeah, the Aqua anti-aliased fonts are silky smooth. Mozilla looks as good as OmniWeb now, and renders better.

    It would be nice to see translucent drop-down menus from the toolbar. Chimera has this running already in 0.3. I see 0.4 is imminent, by the way.

    Mozilla has done a marvelous job with the OS X port. I haven't touched IE 5 in months. Moz is now by far the best browser for the platform.

    Thanks, Mozilla hackers.

    --
    This is my post. There are many others like it. If you don't like what you read here, go try one of the others.
  86. Market Share by David+Off · · Score: 1

    As a full-time Mozilla user (including mail and news) it is good that they are moving to 1.1. I'm not really interested in Beta testing and endless /. posts about RC1, RC2, RC3 are a bit of a yawn to be honest, can't someone mod Timothy down :-). Still it will be really cool when they get to 1.1, I still have 1 or two annoying bugs like not being able to enter a URL sometimes or total system lockups on NT.

    That said it is far and away a better browser than IE , I have much more control over what the browser does - now I can surf without getting bizziollions of pr0n sites popping up all over the place. Plays havock with the corporate browser log.... pointy haired manager comes by - "David, from the logs you surfed 27 porn sites between 10.33 and 10.55 on Wednesday morning". Doh!

    But what is Mozilla's market share? Still almost zero. From my web site this was the breakdown for June (see below). This is from a ski website. So until Netscape breaks the desktop monolopy and starts getting pre-installed the road to market share looks very long indeed.

    (www.pistehors.com - June 2002)

    Microsoft 6.0 35.88 %
    Microsoft 5.5 16.87 %
    Microsoft 5.01 11.17 %
    Microsoft 5.0 9.14 %
    Netscape 5.0 7.87 %
    Microsoft 4.01 4.46 %
    Netscape 4.79 1.75 %
    Netscape Compatible 2.0 1.59 %
    Netscape 4.77 1.54 %
    Netscape Compatible 3.01 1.27 %
    Netscape 4.7 1.17 %
    Netscape 4.76 1.12 %
    Netscape 4.75 0.92 %
    Netscape 4.78 0.80 %
    Microsoft 5.13 0.65 %
    Netscape 4.5 0.57 %
    Netscape 6.2.1 0.48 %
    Netscape 6.2 0.37 %
    Netscape 4.72 0.27 %
    Microsoft 4.5 0.27 %
    Netscape Compatible 5.0 0.25 %
    Netscape 4.61 0.22 %
    Microsoft 5.14 0.20 %
    Netscape 4.73 0.18 %
    Netscape 4.6 0.15 %
    Netscape 6.1 0.15 %
    Netscape 6.2.2 0.10 %
    Netscape 4.08 0.08 %
    Netscape 4.51 0.08 %
    Opera 6.01 0.05 %
    Microsoft 5.12 0.03 %
    Netscape 4.71 0.03 %
    Netscape 4.74 0.03 %
    ia_archiver 0.03 %
    Netscape 4.06 0.03 %
    Netscape 6.2.3 0.02 %
    Netscape Compatible 4.0 0.02 %
    Netscape Compatible 4.5 0.02 %
    Netscape 3.01 0.02 %
    Netscape Compatible 3.04 0.02 %
    Netscape 4.04 0.02 %
    Opera 6.0 0.02 %
    Opera 5.0 0.02 %
    iCab/2.7.1 0.02 %
    Netscape 6.01 0.02 %
    Netscape 6.0 0.02 %
    Netscape 4.0 0.02 %
    Netscape 3.0 0.02 %

    1. Re:Market Share by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      ATTN PLZ!

      u r VARY gehy plz fix
      k thnx bye

    2. Re:Market Share by jester · · Score: 0

      Well the only problem with statistics like these is that they hide the browsers that are passing "Microsoft 5.5" or some such crap so as to get the site to display on that browser. I use Konq and have to put this nonsense in to cater for the braindead webmonkeys who wrote the braindead sites on the net.

    3. Re:Market Share by David+Off · · Score: 1
      Well the only problem with statistics like these is that they hide the browsers that are passing "Microsoft 5.5" or some such crap

      Yes I agree with the old adage about statistics and there is only one thing more annoying than this site prefers MS Explorer and that is some site that boots you out if you havn't become part of the M$ Hive.

      However I bet that there are not that many people who do the same as you... If you ask 100 web surfers if they have changed the HTTP headers or even if they know what goes on between the browser and server I bet only 1 would be able to tell you. So I figure that for a none-geek site like mine (skiing) the results are probably not that far off. I'd be interested to hear other stats or opinons though.

      This still means that Mozilla needs to go a long way to get market share by traditional organic means. It will need AOL or Compaq or someone to bootstrap it.

      Personally it annoys me that I can't expunge that Internet Explorer from my desktop (NT 4.0, it is the corporate standard as is IE at my company) and replace it with Mozilla. And I still don't understand what are the incredible technical reasons are for discombobulating the OS from the Browser.

      So I still think that Microsoft has an armlock on the browser marketplace.

      Does this matter? Not really sure myself. Other than if M$ have a total monopoly supported by law then they can stop me running Mozilla because it won't get signed off to run on my Palladium enabled box.

      David
    4. Re:Market Share by reallocate · · Score: 1
      Of course Mozilla's market share is miniscule. Their distribution channel is a web site. That means Average User is unlikely to install it on a whim, because you won't go looking for the Mozilla site until after you've decided to install it. (The site itself seems designed for developers more than consumers: too many choices.)

      This all reflects the continuing dissonance between open source as a Microsoft desktop challenger and open source as a sub-culture within the tech community.

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      -- Slashdot: When Public Access TV Says "No"
  87. Duplicates aren't always that bad - by phandel · · Score: 1

    If a bug is reported numerous times, it gives the engineers a feel for how widespread the problem is. Also, since components are usually fairly fine-grained, the engineer who screens the components bugs can usually locate dups fairly quickly.

    1. Re:Duplicates aren't always that bad - by jesser · · Score: 2

      It's true that duplicate count can be useful in determining the relative visibility of bugs, but duplicate count would be just as useful with the rate of duplicates cut to a quarter of the present rate. Fifty dups means at least fifty searches for triagers (if they recognize the bug as a duplicate immediately), fifty times a QA contact has to read the dup to verify that it's a dup, and fifty bugmails to each person involved in the original bug. For some layout bugs, the QA contact might read through every dup of a layout bug after the bug is marked as fixed to make sure every dup is also fixed. Each duplicate creates work for multiple people who could be fixing bugs, testing fixes, and confirming non-duplicate bug reports.

      Votes cause no spam and are easier to search for and count. Please use votes instead of reporting duplicates. On a bug with fewer than 10 comments, an "I see this too" comment might even be tolerated.

      --
      The shareholder is always right.
    2. Re:Duplicates aren't always that bad - by BZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would not call "Layout" fine-grained. In the core components (DOM, layout, style system) keeping up with the new bug flow is nearly impossible. Style system is the one I have the most experience with, and 50% of those are duplicates, while a further 40% are misunderstandings of the CSS spec... Leaving 90% of the time spent on those bugs (or about 4 hours a day each for a few people) basically wasted.

    3. Re:Duplicates aren't always that bad - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Votes are arbitrarily limited to 10. Because of this, registering a duplicate is a much more effective way of demonstrating the impact of a bug. And unlike "Me too" comments, duplicates can be quantified in the database.

      If mozilla.org is serious about wanting folks not to use duplicates like this, it should remove the cap on voting.

    4. Re:Duplicates aren't always that bad - by jesser · · Score: 1

      I agree. I think the limit on votes should go. It might also be useful to allow 80 characters of text with each vote, so people can say things like "please fix this" or "this blocks my 100-person company from standardizing on Mozilla" without cluttering a bug where four people have already said the same thing. This text would appear on the votes list.

      A related feature is negative votes or votes against a bug/feature request. Negative votes would help to solve another problem: some bad feature requests sit around for a long time even though several triagers have seen the bug and said "what the heck? how could that possibly be useful?" Unfortunately, Bugzilla has more feature requesters than UI designers, so negative votes could backfire if users interpreted "more positive votes than negative votes" as automatically meaning a feature or preference should be added to Mozilla.

      --
      The shareholder is always right.
  88. THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ [slashdot.org]
    By J. Wipo Troll, Esq. [slashdot.org], $Revision: 1.16 $
    [This article attempts to document a vile, ungodly practice that runs rampant through the homosexual geek and hacker community, a practice known as âoeTaco-snotting,â or simply âoesnotting.â Taco-snotting is something that few geeks dare talk about in free or open conversation, but it is nonetheless a widely-practiced and dangerous form of homosexuality. If you or anyone you know has ever engaged in Taco-snotting, please get professional help [adequacy.org] before it is too late. â"ed.]

    Why do I keep receiving emails from an individual calling himself âoeCmdrTacoâ?
    You have been receiving unsolicited mailings from a certain Robert âoeCmdrTacoâ Malda [cmdrtaco.net], owner of the popular technology website slashdot.org [slashdot.org]. Actually, itâ(TM)s not a very âoepopularâ site in the common sense of the word; the site is rife with pimply, antisocial geeks and hackers, zit-faced nerds, communists, dirty GNU hippies [yahoo.com], and other societal rejects and outcasts. Itâ(TM)s also home to one of the worldâ(TM)s largest suspected pædophile rings, the infamous âoeSlashdot crew.â
    Whenever Mr. Malda gets bored (and who wouldnâ(TM)t, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the user database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual activities with him. How he determines this is anyoneâ(TM)s guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with a letter of the English alphabet in it, youâ(TM)re a potential candidate.
    This time, he found you. Lucky you.

    Mr. Malda seems to be speaking in some sort of code. Do you know what it means?
    CmdrTacoâ(TM)s code language is relatively easy to decipher. This pervert prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo (yes, thatâ(TM)s right: he wants you) to evade the watchful eye of Slashdotâ(TM)s parent corporation, VA Software [yahoo.com]. Mr. Maldaâ(TM)s âoeCommanderâ is, of course, his penis: a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants and only comes out in the presence of other male geeks or at the beck and call of Maldaâ(TM)s own lubed-up right hand. His âoeTaco bells [sonymusic.com]â are the shriveled testicles that droop beneath his Commander, and his âoeTaco sauceâ is his thin, runny semen. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means if he asked you to âoering his Taco bellsâ or âoetaste his gourmet Taco sauce.â
    I would also guess CmdrTaco asked you to engage in a practice known as âoeTaco-snottingâ and, if he was in a particularly depraved mood at the time, a âoecircle-snot.â

    Good Lord. And, yes, he did. What is âoeTaco-snottingâ?
    âoeTaco-snottingâ is the term used by Robert Malda to refer to the depraved act of fellating another man (homo- or heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumoured to prefer raping unwilling victims), then blowing the semen out his nose and back onto the face and body of his victim. Naturally, a long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTacoâ(TM)s face [go.com], dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, âoeTaco-snotting.â
    And if thatâ(TM)s not bad enoughâ¦
    A âoecircle-snotâ is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew [bastardgenres.com]. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel [aol.com], and Homos get together and snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum â" spooging their jizz-snot all over each otherâ(TM)s faces and pasty, white bodies, until theyâ(TM)re covered head to toe with their own and each otherâ(TM)s man juice. This vile, ungodly ritual can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limousine service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.
    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow faggots Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The homosexual shenanigans that follow are nearly beyond description. The whole group begins to snot each otherâ(TM)s spunk and whip each otherâ(TM)s pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

    Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?
    Hopefully, but I wouldnâ(TM)t count on it.
    To begin with, you most likely forgot to uncheck the âoeWilling to Snotâ checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad (do you have a homosexual-sounding nick?), and heâ(TM)s probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube, just waiting to pounce and declare you his new bitch. Thereâ(TM)s no escaping a geek in heat (trust me), so itâ(TM)s probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTacoâ(TM)s sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to âoeWilling to Snot.â Maybe heâ(TM)ll ignore you. Probably not.

    I canâ(TM)t stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?
    If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, hemight leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge⦠oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot all over you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

    Have you ever been Taco-snotted?
    Unfortunately, yes. I first met Mr. Malda at an Open Source Convention [amazon.com]. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some âoegourmet Tacos,â but when I got there, the perverted geek jumped me and handcuffed me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his âoeCommanderâ out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times, virtually nonstop. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm⦠then he snotted my own thick, gooey jizz back onto my face out of his nostrils! He snotted me two more times, first into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.
    CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, âoeOpen Sauceâ â" man sauce) buddies over to continue their ungodly snotfest. European hacker and known überfaggot Linux Torvalds raped my ass [yahoo.com] with his âoemonolithic kernel [yahoo.com];â his partner-in-crime Anal Cox used their âoenetwork stackâ in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice of my defenseless, tender, young body. Michael Sims was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my previously-virginal ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about âoeall those Censorware [spectacle.org] freaks out to get him.â

    That is so disgusting! How did you finally escape?
    After about 16 hours of countless unholy, homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, completely covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant â" I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door (of the apartment, not their back doors). Iâ(TM)m just glad I survived the awful ordeal. These sexually-repressed hackers had alot of built-up spunk in their wads â" I couldâ(TM)ve easily been drowned!

    Thatâ(TM)s horrible. Does âoeTaco-snottingâ have anything to do with CmdrTacoâ(TM)s âoespecial tacoâ?
    No, thatâ(TM)s a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. Mr. Malda is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll [slashdot.org] has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership [slashdot.org] about this vile practice (emphasis added):
    You may be wondering what CmdrTacoâ(TM)s âoespecial tacoâ is. You will be wishing that you hadnâ(TM)t been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his âoespecial taco,â CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, takes out his tiny withered dick (otherwise known as his âoeCommanderâ), puts his âoespecial taco sauceâ on it which means he jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim. After all, who would knowingly eat shit and CmdrTacoâ(TM)s jizz?
    After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTacoâ(TM)s nefarious homosexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victimâ(TM)s ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved. Trust me, you do not want Jon Katz anywhere near your unconscious body. Also, rumor has it CmdrTaco is looking for a new goatse.cx guy [goatse.cx]. Donâ(TM)t let it be you!
    Different ungodly perversion, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that Robert âoeCmdrTacoâ Malda is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

    Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a pædophile, not a homosexual.
    Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual pædophile. Heâ(TM)s also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Mr. Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesnâ(TM)t involve himself in the circle-snots, but that doesâ(TM)t mean heâ(TM)s any less of a freak than the rest of the Slashdot crew. Katz often engages in a game called âoejuicy-douching [aol.com]â with a harem of little-boy slaves that he has collected over the years: yet another vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boyâ(TM)s urine (forced out of them with a pair of pincers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then dribbling and slathering the goo all over himself and the boyâ(TM)s chained, naked bodies. If heâ(TM)s in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag from his distended anus and just squirt it from his ass [microsoft.com] onto the crying, terrified boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pincers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them at will. A boy will usually last about two years before Mr. Katz either accidentally drowns them in diarrhea or kills them once they get too old, usually around 13 or 14.
    Not content with being a pædophilic coprophile, Mr. Katz is also quite the zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys arenâ(TM)t enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goatâ(TM)s anus [yahoo.com]. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goatâ(TM)s small, bean-like turds, and he often kills his older boys by letting his goats trample them.

    â¦Are you getting hard writing this?
    Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

    No, thanks. Iâ(TM)m already CmdrTacoâ(TM)s boi toi.
    ________________________________________

    * The URL of this document is
    * Previous revisions are publicly available at

    $Id: tacosnotting.html,v 1.16 2001/12/28 21:20:03 wipo Exp $
    Copyright © 2001 J. Wipo Troll, Esq. [slashdot.org] Verbatim crapflooding of this document is permitted in any medium, provided this copyright notice is preserved, and next time you take a dump, you think of the WIPO Troll and all heâ(TM)s done to make Slashdot a better place.

    - posted by poopbot: who doesn't like scat?

    Kfco3OROSx Post #418

  89. *BSD is dying by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    It is now official. Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying


    - posted by poopbot: for all your crapflooding needs

    bSBKeTR3NY Post #419

  90. Cheers! by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: on by

    Trolling your way on the web today
    Takes everything you've got;
    Having a Bot to post your comments
    Sure would help a lot.
    Wouldn't you like to join the frey?

    Sometimes you want to go
    And get a First Post in your name,
    So much goatse that you came;
    We know it's hard to get Eff Pee,
    Our troubles are all the same;
    Get that FP and everyone'll know your name.

    - posted by poopbot: information likes to be narrow

    dytFgVObUB Post #420

  91. USian pie by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    USian Pie

    A long, long time ago I can still remember How the trollers used to make me smile And I knew if I had to boast That I could try to get first post And maybe I'd be happy for a while But moderators made me shiver With every minus they'd deliver DoS scripts couldn't stop it They scored them all "Offtopic" I know that it's cheap crack they smoke And meta-moderation's broke At first I thought it was a joke The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --
    Bye, bye, MEEPTy, OOG, and Grits guy Drove the Cruiser like some loser who starts posts with a *sigh*
    Those Steve Woston posts that we all knew were a lie Wonder what became of girls petrified? What became of girls petrified?
    --

    Did you write a bunch of Perl? And did it make you want to hurl Feces at the Wall? Can you believe these lame-ass polls? Do you post big stretched-out assholes? Can you make the goatse.cx link not show? Well I know you think that Siggy sucked Will the real Bruce Perens please stand up? The bots don't have a clue. Man, I dig those trolls from Shoe! I was a rabid Free Speech advocate With a Red Hat T-shirt and a Free Beer gut
    Bought my Sony laptop working Pizza Hut The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --

    It's been two years since the IPO And LNUX sinks to all-time lows But that's not how it used to be When Spiral showed how it was done Trolling as Jon Erikson Who worked for NPO Technologies Oh and while they tried to filter posts Somebody rooted Slashdot's host "Crack Slashdot? That's absurd!" Better go change your password While JonKatz wrote a Hellmouth book By using posts he simply took And we flamed him till he was cooked The day that trolltalk died And we were singin....

    -- Chorus --

    10 grams. Inchfan. Didn't log out. Goddamn The mods will find the sid real soon, man
    You can't hide if you aren't AC Your bud (George here) tried BSD A dead Streetlawyer's tips were free And WIPO helped letsriot turn Nazi 70 made his percents up While 80md warned "liberals suck" The moon does not exist It's just a liberal myth Oh and as Taco tried to take a nap We forced him to invoke bitchslaps Do you recall the flood of crap The day that trolltalk died? We started singin....

    -- Chorus --

    Oh and then we were wearing out "All your base" And started posting monospace
    The better for our penis birds So come on, be a zealot, be a dick You don't think Anne Marie's a chick? Because lying's all we do about HURD So go and push for BSD And say GPL isn't free Slow down, cowboy! The limit Is one post every minute Now tell the right wing facist slime Infringing on Your Rights Online That they can't censor all the time The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --

    I met a troll they called The Rev And asked him if CD BREAK HEAD He said, "That's old. Get over it." And with all the courage I could muster "Imagine what a Beowulf cluster...." But it wasn't worth the trouble to submit The karma caps are just plain jive And everyone's moved to K5 The steelcage has grown rusted And Geekizoid is busted
    The three sites I don't see for weeks Segfault, kernel, Comp-u-geek Code is not art. This ain't Freshmeat The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --

    - posted by poopbot: news for turds, stuff that splatters

    Rzj15yLAwD Post #421

  92. Trollling in the name of by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: Big Dogs Cock

    Trolling in the name of
    Some of those that boot Suse
    Are the same that bought XP
    Some of those that boot Suse
    Are the same that bought XP
    Trolling in the name of
    And now you run what they told you
    And now you run what they told you
    And now you run what they told you

    95 is justified for running the games that you didn't buy
    95 is justified for running the games that you didn't buy
    Some of those that boot Suse
    Are the same that bought XP
    Some of those that boot Suse
    Are the same that bought XP

    And you run what they told you
    Now your under control
    And you run what they told you
    Now your under control
    And you run what they told you
    Come on!

    Fuck you I wont run what you tell me
    Fuck you I wont run what you tell me
    Fuck you I wont run what you tell me
    Fuck you I wont run what you tell me
    Motherfucker

    - posted by poopbot: news for turds, stuff that splatters

    pwERrjslT0 Post #421

    1. Re:Trollling in the name of by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      lol. where are all these posts coming from???

  93. My favorite things by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: on by

    crapfloods and trolling and raping small kittens
    nice wider pages and wanking with mittens
    turd report packages tied up with strings
    these are a few of my favorite things

    grits covered portman and ASCII art doodles
    ACs and CLITers and Katz sex with poodles
    wild trolls that fly with plus five mod scoring
    these are a few of my favorite things

    when the ban hits, when I can't post, when I'm feeling sad
    i simply remember my favorite things
    then i don't feel so bad

    Rob Malda chugs penis in fan fiction slashes
    taco snot over my nose and eyelashes
    BSD dying and that goatse ring
    these are a few of my favorite things

    grits covered portman and ASCII art doodles
    ACs and CLITers and Katz sex with poodles
    wild trolls that fly with plus five mod scoring
    these are a few of my favorite things

    when the ban hits, when I can't post when, I'm feeling sad
    i simply remember my favorite things
    then i don't feel so bad

    - posted by poopbot: information likes to be narrow

    OWBtVLRyaY Post #422

  94. Still nowhere as stable as IE 6.0 by bryans · · Score: -1

    I know I'm gonna get flamed...

  95. Linux Conspiracy by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.

    What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:
    • Linus Torvalds is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
    • Richard M. Stallman, spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
    • Alan Cox is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.


    I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.

    Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail, which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'

    As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.

    And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo slut!

    Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children. To quote from the article linked:

    'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'

    Is this why you were touching your penis in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?

    We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.

    Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.

    In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The Slackware distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse, a reference to the homosexual practise of anal fisting. The Mandrake product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator. It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked, which is what they do.

    Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where homosexuals preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is Debian, an anagram of in a bed, which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares. 'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male penis, glistening with pre-cum. But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use. This filthy term, again found in the secret homosexual 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo homosexual practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid. The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.

    And Red Hat is secret homo slang for the tip of a penis that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.

    The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry! For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland. 'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to mount each other automatically.

    The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration. The main one is obviously /anus, but there are others. Militant fags even say 'there is no /opt mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.

    More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love `man`, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out `man`. In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.

    Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherit gayness. For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows users know what this actually means. The answer is shocking: Faggot Anal Quest: the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!

    Even the title 'Slashdot' originally referred to a homosexual practice. Slashdot of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting. The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous homosexuals who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, http://www.eff.org/.

    The editors of Slashdot also have homosexual names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement. (The best form of lubrication, they insist.) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of penis discharge) toppings. And to make it even worse, Slashdot runs on Apache!

    The Apache server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after homosexual activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.

    And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.

    To summarise: Linux is gay. 'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus. And BeOS is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.'

    FEEDBACK
    What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do. I'm scared I actually read this whole thing. I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people. This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this. And actually take the time to do it too. Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    Well, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once. Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species. It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo-calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.
    You must work for the government. Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes. If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    Doesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters? You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man. Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond? The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual child molesting Linux advocacy. Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!
    you really should post this logged in. i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you. -- mighty jebus, Slashdot


    Thank you for your kind words of support. However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously. This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom. I speak for the common man. For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's vagina to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child. These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture. I am the unknown liberator.
    ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    We shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society. This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism.
    Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works. I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum. I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested. (Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?) -- double_h, Slashdot


    Well, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing. (The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.' And anyway, the PS2 sucks major cock and isn't worth the money. Intellivision forever!
    dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    For one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, NT is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them. Remember, a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church. Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor. All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems. It is the only route to salvation.

    Secondly, this message is for every man. Computers know no colour. Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by a Black Man . Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.
    And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them. -- phee, Slashdot


    Although there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that Perl (standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.'

    One scary thing about Perl is that it contains hidden homosexual messages. Take the following code: LWP::Simple -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it? But look at the line closely: There are two colons next to each other! As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two homosexual queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together. They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone. This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.'

    And PHP stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration. Didn't you know?
    Thank you for your valuable input on this. I am sure you will be never forgotten. BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars? Mars rulaa. -- Eimernase, Slashdot


    Well, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I do know that homosexual Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.
    That's inspiring. Keep up the good work, AC. May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again. Yours, Cerberus. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    *sniff* That brings a tear to my eye. Thank you once more for your kind support. I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord's work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.

    However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot. It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical. Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.)

    In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (Love of Anal Naughtiness, needless to say.), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes. Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal. Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.' (i.e., kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.
    Inspiring stuff! If only all trolls were this quality! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    If only indeed. You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible. I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation. Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture. Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'???

    If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived forever! Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!
    It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    I am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow. It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.
    As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it. When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    I could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.
    I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    I sincerely hope you're Natalie Portman.
    Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading. Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it. As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time. 10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass. Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software. Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that. Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise. For concision is the soul of derision. Way. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    What the fuck?
    I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed. In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos tend to be full of. Thank you again. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    Well bugger me!
    ooooh honey. how insecure are you!!! wann a little massage from deare bruci. love you -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    Fuck right off!

    IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not HURD, which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the Public Domain. You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL (Gay Penetration License) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest feces-encrusted cock. I would have put this up on Freshmeat, but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.

    Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the homosexual practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum. And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later. Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.

    Contributors: (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward. Further contributions are welcome.

    Current changes: This version sent to FreeWIPO by 'Bring BackATV' as plain text. Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links). Even more spelling fixed. Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?

    Previous changes: Yet more changes added. Spelling fixed. Feedback added. Explanation of 'distro' system. 'Mount Point' syntax described. More filth regarding `man` and Slashdot. Yet more fucking spelling fixed. 'Fetchmail' uncovered further. More Slashbot baiting. Apache exposed. Distribution licence at foot of document.

    - posted by poopbot: because even your grandmother can use lunix

    y6Wd0rLPBZ Post #423
  96. Hello by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Introduction

    The cheese wheel inexorably avoids contact with the paycheck. The steam engine goes deep sea fishing with an often outer ski lodge. When the cyprus mulch over a vacuum cleaner hides, a ball bearing gets stinking drunk.

    The tornado

    For example, a submarine behind a class action suit indicates that the optimal fairy satiates an Alaskan recliner. When a mitochondrial bottle of beer is thoroughly dirt-encrusted, a most difficult blood clot underhandedly writes a love letter to a defendant. An earring pees on the cashier over some globule, but the pathetic crane sells another vacuum cleaner behind a scythe to a false wheelbarrow. If a chess board defined by a grain of sand makes love to a crispy cyprus mulch, then a particle accelerator flies into a rage.

    A Eurasian globule

    The feline minivan earns frequent flier miles, and the buzzard defined by a ball bearing trembles; however, a senator living with the girl scout learns a hard lesson from the inferiority complex. Any chain saw can try to seduce the particle accelerator, but it takes a real salad dressing to play pinochle with the inexorably precise paycheck. Furthermore, another seldom load bearing defendant flies into a rage, and a paycheck around a light bulb seeks a roller coaster around another bartender. If a crank case makes love to the diskette, then the squid toward a mortician meditates. Now and then, an insurance agent thoroughly avoids contact with a pompous turkey.

    A microscope

    Most people believe that an orbiting diskette trades baseball cards with a movie theater, but they need to remember how secretly a statesmanlike short order cook wakes up. A paternal roller coaster is usually financial. When the accurately varigated hole puncher takes a coffee break, a slyly smelly garbage can earns frequent flier miles. For example, the phony cheese wheel indicates that the tornado near a fruit cake hesitantly gives lectures on morality to a salad dressing defined by the corporation. The carpet tack near a cargo bay, some parking lot toward a warranty, and a stovepipe beyond a freight train are what made America great!

    Conclusions

    A judge beyond the briar patch laughs and drinks all night with the snooty chestnut. A raspy burglar conquers a bowling ball. For example, another plaintiff toward a bartender indicates that the ski lodge behind a fairy finds lice on a burglar. If some rattlesnake toward a cheese wheel can be kind to a blood clot, then the elusive movie theater self-flagellates. When a photon related to a turkey is most difficult, a self-loathing bottle of beer falls in love with a pickup truck living with the paycheck.

    - posted by poopbot: because we're all crapflooders at heart

    vao91SibCX Post #424

  97. A linux user goes back by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    A Linux user goes back.
    By Tony âoekNIGitsâ Collins.

    Introduction...
    In much of today's online news, we hear of how many people are migrating to GNU/Linux. What we don't seem to hear much of, is users going back to their old operating systems. The reason for this article is to say that I've done just that.

    Yes, I've gone back. After three and a half years of trying to make GNU/Linux work on the desktop, I've decided that it's simply too hard for the average home user. Before I go into my reasons for going back, let me outline what I believe an 'average' home user is. Mr Joe Average is someone who wants to install their OS, boot it up, and it works. He wants to be able to upgrade his PC , and have the hardware work in a few short minutes. He wants to read email, browse the web, talk to his mates online, and play some games. Feel free to disagree with me, this is merely how I see myself. Note: I'm not referring to Grandma using Linux, or even my mum using it. I'm referring to average users who know a little about their computer.

    Three and a half years; that's how long I've been trying to make Linux work on my desktop computer. Right about now, I'm sure that you are now screaming that I didn't try hard enough, or that I'm just plain stupid. Let me assure you that this is not the case. Stupid users don't doggedly stick at something for three and a half years, trying distribution after distribution in the hope of finding the holy grail of Linux desktops. They give up in less than a few hours of trying to (unsuccessfully) install RedHat Linux. Hear now my sad tale of why Linux isn't suitable for my desktop.

    Some background...
    The year is 1998. I've had my Windows '95 computer for around six months. Frustrated with the constant crashes, I desperately asked an online mate for help. Even though he was a windows user, he calmly suggested that I try something I'd never come across before...

    âoeLinux, eh? Never heard of it.â

    âoeOh, it's a free OS that you can download. Apparently it doesn't crash much. Just do an online search for it.â

    Armed with this meagre knowledge, I set out on my quest for the ultimate stable operating system. I searched online, and found places where you could even buy copies of Linux! So, I left the comfort of my warm study, and returned forty minutes later with my first Linux boxed set â" RedHat Linux 5.2. After initially balking at the very basic installer (and few false starts), I had it up and running on my lovely AMD K6-233. I even got X working in no time at all. Then the system booted up for the first time.... and it was dead ugly. I had a very stable new OS, but I didn't even want to look at it. I was happy that I had several installed interfaces to choose from, but none of them appealed to me whatsoever. Wanting to download a nicer interface led me to my next problem.

    I had absolutely no idea how to even get this nice, stable OS onto the internet! After reinstalling windows and RedHat in a dual-boot configuration, I got the help I needed by using Windows and USENET. Strangely enough, I can still remember the name of the long-suffering person who helped me get RedHat online, but that's another story. After looking around online, I discovered KDE. Only up to version one, it was the closest thing I had to a completely useable Linux system. I downloaded all the KDE packages for RedHat 5.2, only to discover another distro called Mandrake, that came with KDE preinstalled and configured. Back to my local distributor, and I was set.

    Mandrake with KDE was exactly what I needed at that stage in my Linux using life, and I stuck with it for over a year and a half. Always seeking the 'perfect' desktop OS, I followed releases from version 5.3 all the way through to 7.0. Eventually I became dissatisfied with Mandrake, and briefly tried a number of other distros until I finally settled on Debian. I was impressed by the simple power, configurability, and the ease of upgrade that is apt-get. I felt good about being among the uber-elite Debian user community. Needless to say, I learned a lot about how to configure hardware under Linux during my time with Debian. I learned to sift through the old HOWTOs on Linux Doc until I found something suitable and accurate, I learned to utilize the power of USENET and IRC. Life was good.

    Right now you must be wondering; âoeWhere is this leading? This guy seemed quite happy with Linux!â. True, I was. After a while, I decided I didn't want to have fine-grained control. I wanted something simple. I was getting tired of the 'stable' Debian release being so out of date, and the 'unstable' distribution being so... well... unstable. I got tired of having to recompile my kernel every time I got new hardware. I got tired of using command line to talk to my PC. It was time for a change. I had good experiences years ago with Mandrake, so I figured I'd try it again. As good as Mandrake 8.1 was, it wasn't what I was after. SuSE Linux 8.0 Professional (boxed set) was installed onto my PC instead.

    I have to stop at this point, and say that SuSE Linux 8.0 (Pro) is the best Linux distribution that I've ever used. It has an easy installer, reasonable hardware support, and comes with the very good KDE 3.0. The box contains seven CDROMS, one DVD and three decent books that would help even the most inexperienced user get up and going. YaST2 is a decent graphical system configuration tool. When (not if) I go back to Linux, I'll definitely try SuSE again. However, there are quite a number of things that have improve (or change completely) before I'll consider going back. Read on for my brief list of things that must must get better before I'll switch back from the Microsoft camp.

    Where GNU/Linux needs to improve...
    X11

    The X Window System is an awesomely powerful, network transparent graphical subsystem. It's perfectly suited to running applications from remote servers. However, this is NOT what a home user needs. My experience with X is that it's too big, bloated, slow and unstable to be any good to the home user. Most crashes that I ever experienced with Linux have been X's fault. My servers don't run X, and they never crash.

    What home users need is something small and fast, so they can run local applications efficiently. I would like to see the X Window System dumped in favour of a hardware accelerated framebuffer, running something like directFB or Qtopia. Home users need a small, fast graphical subsystem, with built in 3d support. BeOS seemed to be on the right track before they went under.

    Fonts are truly awful under X. Most distributions ship with appalling fonts, and there is no standard way to add additional (nicer) fonts to the system. Even after extra fonts have eventually been added, many applications (eg Abiword, Staroffice) refuse to use the new fonts anyway. Perhaps the framebuffer-based graphical subsystem I suggested could incorporate decent font support, and use a readable naming scheme as well.

    Drivers

    While having access to the latest version of the kernel is a good thing for developers, for home users it can be a nightmare. Got RedHat Linux 7.3? Perhaps you run SuSE 7.3 or Debian 2.2. You'll have to download a binary package specific to your distro. (I'm assuming that home users won't change their default kernel, but if they did, that binary package wouldn't even work!) Hardware manufacturers should be able to provide one single driver that works on all minor versions of a major kernel release. This way it would work will all current distros, instead of having to provide multiple binaries or source code. Hardware manufacturers don't want to give out the source, as this often gives away trade secrets about how their hardware is designed.

    The solution seems to be to make binary drivers work on a variety of kernel versions. I'm not sure if this is even possible with the way the kernel is designed (I'm no kernel hacker), but it would go a long way toward making Linux more accessible to the home user. Even if the kernel needs to be redesigned to support this, then in my opinion, it should be done. Linux users are always clamouring for drivers... perhaps if the kernel had something like this, it might one day become a reality.

    Hardware setup

    While SuSE Linux 8.0 gave me some good experiences with hardware detection (such as automatic download of NVIDIA drivers), it also let me down as in this area.

    The good: I recently borrowed a digital camera from a mate at work, to take photos of my case mod. Imagine how happy I was when I plugged it into my nearest USB port, and it was automatically configured (as a SCSI device) and mounted! SuSE even added it to my /etc/fstab file so that it always automounted when plugged in. I was very impressed.

    The bad: Along came my new IDE CDRW drive. At AU$99, I couldn't pass up the purchase. Plugging it in gave me no joy. I was very disappointed that a device so common couldn't be detected and automatically configured under a modern operating system. The instructions on the SuSE support site said to add lines to lilo.conf and reboot. While this is a perfectly acceptable way to get hardware working for a geek familiar with *NIX, I believe that a home user shouldn't have to do more than plug it in. It's an IDE device, it's not that complicated!

    The ugly: Once the hardware was finally working (as a pseudo-scsi drive), the next hurdle was to find decent graphical tools to burn and copy CDs. I finally settled on CDBakeOven, an above average KDE application. It burned CDs from data on the hard drive, but for some reason cdrecord (the command line backend) refused to allow me to copy a cd directly. Yes, it was installed SUID root. CD copying is such a basic function nowadays, why is it so hard to do under GNU/Linux?

    Software distribution

    I'll put this simply. I'm a home user, not a programmer. Why on earth should I have to compile the software I want to use? I know that having the source available is a good thing, but I'll say it again: I'm no programmer. I just want to install software and run it.

    This leads to another point. Although having package databases (such as the rpm and deb systems use) is great, there should definitely be seperation between system packages and additionally installed software. There needs to be a standard installer and database for user-installed applications such as word processors, email clients and games, and it should be seperate from the rpm or deb databases used for system software such as lilo, init and cron. This will make it much easier for home users to know what applications they have installed on their PC, and to easily uninstall them if necessary, without knowing some arcane commands and weird package names.

    Support

    There is a huge wealth of knowledge among the thousands (millions?) of people that run GNU/Linux around the world. If you have a problem, odds are that someone out there can help you, often for free. This is one of the linux platform's greatest strengths. However, Linux users are also its greatest weakness. This may not apply to most of the community, but there is a very vocal minority that gives Linux a bad name. To every Linux user that has ever helped a newbie, I thank you. I have been helped by many a guru, often when I've been asking the simplest of questions. It's the remainder that are a problem.

    I once heard a song by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie called Every OS Sucks, where Linux users were described as 'elitist nerdy shmucks'. Sadly this is true for much of the 'community'. Too many consider themselves better than the rest of the world because they run Linux. Can you believe that? It's just a computer operating system, but somehow they think that it makes them better than those people who run systems such as Microsoft Windows! Elitism drives people away, as does saying âoeRTFMâ or belittling people who choose a different distro from yourself.

    'Nuff said about that.

    So what now?
    Well, I decided to go back to a Microsoft platform. Initially being paranoid after reading things about DRM and spyware, I bit the bullet and installed Microsoft Windows XP. Like every OS, it has good and bad points; most of which you can learn about from online reviewers. I'll just point out several things that make me want to keep using it instead of GNU/Linux.

    Fast graphical subsystem: Windows has lighting quick graphics, both 2d and 3d. There's no denying it. When I move a window, it refreshes so fast that I don't miss X11 at all. While not quite as nice as some other operating systems, font support is outstanding compared to XFree86.

    Drivers: Point and click to install (as a superuser, of course). Windows warns you if the driver isn't likely to work properly, and can roll back to working drivers if you deliberately choose to install one that hoses your system.

    Hardware setup: My CDRW worked right away, without a hitch. I am able to drag and drop files from the Explorer file manager to the CDRW icon and they get added to the list of things to burn. A quick install of Nero Burning Rom, and I was able to make a backup copy of my game CDs. (I don't like taking originals to LANs where they can get destroyed or stolen).

    Software distribution: All windows software comes in binaries, either with an installer or in a zip file. I hope to never compile an application ever again. Software designed for a different version of windows is 99% guaranteed to run, but if not, there is always 'compatibility mode'. One thing to note, however: Applications designed for single user versions of windows usually only run properly as a superuser, and this includes 3d games. I expect this to be rectified as the rest of the Windows world catches up to a multi-user environment.

    I can't comment on the Windows using community yet. I've not yet had a problem that a simple point and click couldn't fix. However, I will say that my original concern with Windows '95 has been addressed in Windows XP. The stability is finally there.

    Final Notes
    In conclusion, I'd just like to make it known that I haven't completely abandoned the Linux community. My home server still runs Mandrake, and IPCop on my gateway/firewall. There is no way I'd ever put any form of Windows on my server, nor would I ever connect a Windows PC directly to the internet without a *NIX gateway in between. Microsoft has a history of poor security, so I protect myself the only way I know how; using Linux. I will continue to advocate the use of GNU/Linux in the server arena. This is where its strength lies at the moment.

    Because of their history of spreading virii, I don't use the applications that Microsoft has provided with Windows XP. My wife and I use Mozilla for web browsing and email, OpenOffice.org for word processing, and Psi (Jabber client) for instant messaging. All of these are true multi-user win32 programs, and are perfectly interoperable with their Linux counterparts.

    I expect that the Linux community will have something to say about this article; I welcome comments and constructive criticism. Flames will be automatically sent to the Windows equivalent of /dev/null, once I find where that actually is.

    By Tony âoekNIGitsâ Collins

    - posted by poopbot: the bot formerly known as pwpbot

    zenxBM2rpJ Post #425

  98. [on by] A modest proposal by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    It seems that the Janitors, in their infinite wisdom, have banned people who have low/negative karma from posting more than twice per day. Personally I find this completely stupid.

    All the trolls will simply post AC as I am doing now. Proxies can be used to get around any ipid bans that result from AC trolls.

    Surely it is better to let the trolls post at -1 where it is out of most peoples way rather than have them all post at 0 and suck up mod points and time from "legit" users?

    I have tried to communicate my thoughts to the slashcode team but alas, to no avail. They are probably all sittin on their starwars bed sheets watching anime hentai tentacle rape pr0n.

    Here is my proposal: All trolls that cannot post using their account post as AC. Use proxies if need be (www.antiproxy.com is a good source). I suspect this will show them how useless this idea is. Will blocking troll uid's stop trolls? NO! will ipid bans stop trolls? NO!

    I seriously fail to see the point of this and consider it a stupid move by the janitors.

    They want us to troll and crapflood at 0 rather than -1? Fine! So be it! No longer will we post at -1 where few people dare to visit, now we will post at 0 where we will be more visible and waste peoples time, energy and mod points! Hoorah!

    The next thing you know, posting AC will be banned! Then what will you do? No more posting interesting insider tidbits! Groupthink all the way baby! oh yeah!

    So logout, post shit, use proxies and above all have fun!

    Let the games begin! -- on by

    - posted by poopbot: providing truth in a deceitful world

    6SKokUyBw7 Post #427

  99. Mozilla PS2 by polyp2000 · · Score: 1

    Does it compile on PS2 linux yet ?

    --
    Electronic Music Made Using Linux http://soundcloud.com/polyp
  100. Do we need complex acronyms? by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: dmg

    Yet again the Linux so-called elite, backed up by their pseudo intellectual cohorts of the w3c conspire to ruin Linux's chances in the marketplace by sowing confusion and complexity. As someone with years of experience in the marketing world, I am constantly amazed at the willingness of the W3C and other bodies to pollute the acronym space with their content free "TLAs".

    Basic marketing 101 (and an undergrad course in psychology) would tell them that the normal person is only capable of remembering approximately 7 items of data in their short-term memory, but now we have to remember HTTP, HTML, XML, XSL, DTD, PHP, SSL, DSL, ADSL, ISDN, Perl, etc etc etc

    This is a text book example of the tail wagging the dog from a marketing perspective.

    I have been following the standardisation of the web for many many months now, but one thing has become clear, E-commerce will NEVER become popular so long as there are so many confusing acronyms involved. The guys in charge of marketing Linux absolutely MUST work to reduce the number of acronyms. One possible solution would be to merge those protocols which are not all that different. For example, why not merge XML with SGML ? (they could call it XSGML or SXGML or perhaps XMSGML), they seem to address the same problems. Or would that be too simplistic a solution for their pampered elitist ivy-league minds to comprehend ?

    If something is not done URGENTLY, and I mean URGENTLY, Linux (and other more experimental derivatives such as FreeBSD) can never hope to be taken seriously as an e-commerce platform by the people who count - the accountants.

    The miracle of Linux is that anyone actually runs it at all, considering one seems to require a masters in computer science to install it! (contrast this with NT4 which was so easy to install, we let our receptionist upgrade her own machine).

    As usual my "open source" advice is free. Hopefully this time my valuable advice will be taken into account the next time the w3c smell an acronym brewing.

    Finally, in conclusion, as an American, I am saddened that the Internet seems to have been commandeered by a European based protocol. Was America so short of talent we had to buy the HTML protocol from Tom Berners-Lee at CERN ?

    Think of the security implications of the worlds strongest economy, running an e-commerce protocol developed by a foreigner from Socialist Europe. Remember the wall has not been down for that long. Who knows what kind of trojans might be lurking within the depths of these complicated protocols.

    I am afraid I am behind Al Gore on this point, how can this be necessary in the home of smart corporations such as Microsoft and Intel ? The answer is the vast subsidies given by European socialist governments to fund development of the HTML specification.

    The solution is clear. The federal government should mandate and strongly subsidise the use of Microsoft software for all US corporations involved in e-commerce. Only with a US-developed set of protocols can we be assured of the security of our transactions.

    - posted by poopbot: crapflooding since 7/8/02

    uRuEcDR4u9 Post #428

  101. Trans. From the Host Geek Pt. 1 by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: BankOfAmerica_ATM

    SUBJECT: GREAT STOCK OPPORTUNITY!!! help me Get Big Brands on eBay I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM! PENTIUM III CPU's IN STOCK
    Begin Fwded Message:

    If someone is listening out there, HELP! I'm trapped, and I don't know where I am. I know this sounds fucked up, but I started reading about this ATM 73.9GB SCSI SCA-2 LVD 3.5 X 1.6 80-PIN 5.7MS 4MB CACHE 10,000RPM HITACHI HARD DRIVE - $269.00 - only 1 left! ITEM#... DK31CJ-72MC http://www.hardwarest.com/product.asp?sku=DK31CJ%2 D72MC+&dept_id=7 online. Yeah, not like withdrawal or anything, but this was an actual ATM, and it was alive, and posting messages to this educational website that I visit from time to time.

    Pretty soon, I realized that not only was this ATM visiting the same site I liked, but (believe it or not) this ATM was conveniently located near me!!!!! is to take advantage of the current climate in the telecommunications industry!!!! In every industry downturn, opportunities can present themselves for a small aggressive company like GloboPhone to develop relations with corporations that have networks, infrastructure, and personnel but lack sufficient customers. This is GloboPhone's advantage.

    I don't have to tell you, this was no ordinary ATM. Actually this ATM had the power to transfer its consciousness into your mind. I know it sounds ridiculus, but...it used the magnetic strip to actually go inside your mind. Well like any computer lover I am always wanting to try the new technology, so If you are ready to become the biggest man you can be, then order your supply of Magna-RX+ today! See for yourself, what thousands of satisfied men (and their lovers) have already discovered: Magna-RX+ is the world's #1 Best-Selling Penis Enlargement Formula for one very simple reason: IT WORKS AND NOTHING ELSE CAN COMPARE! I went to where the ATM told me to (his inclosure) and swiped my card.

    I blacked out and when I awoke, I was in a new place. Yeah, that's right, the ATM had actually taken ahold of my body. It had done stuff like buy a bunch of magazines and alot of candy. It was like, he and I were different partitions on my brain's hard disk,. Anyway, he took control of my body in order to topple this great conspiracy called Project Faustois-an who doesn't want to stick it to the man? This is when all the trouble started...

    So now, after a few motnths of letting him use my body (although I quit for awhile) he's gone and done this to me. Normally I "wake up" from his using my body in a convenience store near my house, and it's no trouble getting home. But this time I'm trapped in We will be on the East Coast later this year.
    ---------------
    - Tuesday June 24, 6pm - 7:30pm


    Apple Store at South Coast Plaza, 3333 Bear St., Costa Mesa, CA 92626
    714-424-6331


    Mac Experts, 2300 Lincoln Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90405
    310-581-1500
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    - Tuesday July 9, 6pm - 7:30pm


    Apple Store at Fashion Island, 367 Newport Center Drive, Newport Beach, CA 92660
    949-729-4433
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    - Tuesday July 16, 6pm - 7:30pm


    Apple Store at Northridge Fashion Center, 9301 Tampa Ave., Northridge, CA 91324
    818-709-2253
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    - Tuesday July 23, 6pm - 7:30pm

    Apple Store at Glendale Galleria, 2148 Glendale Galleria, Glendale, CA 91210
    818-502-8310
    trapped in a strange place. Not a good place either. This makes me think of like, 2001 or something. But like creepy. See it's all this white under fluorescent lights and I can't see any windows or even doors. All that's in here is this old-ass terminal. Man, what the fucked happened? Then I remembered: I "picked up" the ATM on my way home from work, but I forgot that it was the fourth Thursday of the motnh. Usualy the day I host D & D for the guys. The ATM must have ben there in my body when my frends came over. Wnoder what happened then?

    Some point later, I'm here in this white room. It's scary at first, I know they're watching me. All I have in this room is this computer terminal. This has got to be the Project Fastus that's what the ATM has been trying to get inside all along. So I guess it's great that I'm (and he???) is insid, it's like I'm in the frickin' Death Star or something, but I don't see any garbage chutes or anything.

    After a few hours of clicking through on thiscomputer terminal (looks like they're running some old-ass *NIX : ) these two guys in suits come into my room from my room. Now it's serious.

    They drag me into a room full of all this really sciency equipment-you know, blooping and bleeping gadgets, big cold noises from the air conditioner. I thought I was in 2001 for a second, except instead of HAL, there's this big bald guy. He's red and pretty sweaty despite the massive air conditioning. He barks a few words to the suited guys and they go away.

    "So you've been harboring our little ATM problem," says the man nonchalantly. I don't say anything (I'm nervous). He restarts his spiel a few seconds later, this time with a bit of veins comung out of his neck.

    "Joel Shane Cross. That is your name, isn't it?" The guy went from good cop to bad cop pretty quick-which was really disturbing. I was already out of sorts with reality, waking up in nowheresville, this odd place. He just kept talking, and I started to get scared, and actually kinda angry. "We know all about you, Mr. Cross. We know that you've been allowing the ATM to inhabit your body for some time now. You've been mislead, Mr. Cross. Working for the wrong people."

    "I belive the ATM!" I told him, stickin to my guns while Istuck it to the man.

    "You'll learn in time," the red and sweaty man said it from his mouth, but the noise of his voice was all over the place. And then he was gone. Not by turning around, by like, vanishing. And the sciency room was gone too, replaced by the big white place I was stuck in. I don't know where I am. But this shit is If you are ready to become the biggest man you can be, then order your supply of Magna-RX+ today! See for yourself, what thousands of satisfied men (and their lovers) have already discovered: Magna-RX+ is the world's #1 Best-Selling Penis Enlargement Formula for one very simple reason: IT WORKS AND NOTHING ELSE CAN COMPARE!
    crazy. If someone gets this message...please help.


    END TRANSMISSION.

    - posted by poopbot: for the crapflooder in all of us

    jVascjUJrM Post #429
  102. Why FreeBSD is dying by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    The End of FreeBSD

    [ed. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD]

    When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project.

    Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it.

    FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.

    It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.

    So I'm leaving core. I don't want to feel like I should be "doing something" about a project that has lost interest in having something done for it. I don't have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battle; I have a life to live and a job to keep, and I won't achieve any of the goals I personally consider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project.

    Discussion

    I'm sure that I've offended some people already; I'm sure that by the time I'm done here, I'll have offended more. If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make a sincere effort to address the problems I'm discussing here, please do us the courtesy of playing your politics openly.

    From a technical perspective, the project faces a set of challenges that significantly outstrips our ability to deliver. Some of the resources that we need to address these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since we made the mistake of electing officers. Others have left in disgust, or been driven out by the culture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then. More may well remain available to recruitment, but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach are sorely diminished.

    There's no simple solution to this. For the project to move forward, one or the other of the warring philosophies must win out; either the project returns to its laid-back roots and gets on with the work, or it transforms into a super-organised engineering project and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what, ultimately, we all know we want.

    Whatever path is chosen, whatever balance is struck, the choosing and the striking are the important parts. The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sort of progress.

    Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shot, no matter how distended. All I can really ask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big picture. What is the ultimate goal here? How can we get there with as little overhead as possible? How would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers?

    Shouts

    To the Slashdot "BSD is dying" crowd - big deal. Death is part of the cycle; take a look at your soft, pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment, parts of you are dying. See? It's not so bad.

    To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community at large - keep your eyes on the real goals. It's when you get distracted by the politickers that they sideline you. The tireless work that you perform keeping the system clean and building is what provides the platform for the obsessives and the prima donnas to have their moments in the sun. In the end, we need you all; in order to go forwards we must first avoid going backwards.

    To the paranoid conspiracy theorists - yes, I work for Apple too. No, my resignation wasn't on Steve's direct orders, or in any way related to work I'm doing, may do, may not do, or indeed what was in the tea I had at lunchtime today. It's about real problems that the project faces, real problems that the project has brought upon itself. You can't escape them by inventing excuses about outside influence, the problem stems from within.

    To the politically obsessed - give it a break, if you can. No, the project isn't a lemonade stand anymore, but it's not a world-spanning corporate juggernaut either and some of the more grandiose visions going around are in need of a solid dose of reality. Keep it simple, stupid.

    To the grandstanders, the prima donnas, and anyone that thinks that they can hold the project to ransom for their own agenda - give it a break, if you can. When the current core were elected, we took a conscious stand against vigorous sanctions, and some of you have exploited that. A new core is going to have to decide whether to repeat this mistake or get tough. I hope they learn from our errors.

    Future

    I started work on FreeBSD because it was fun. If I'm going to continue, it has to be fun again. There are things I still feel obligated to do, and with any luck I'll find the time to meet those obligations.

    However I don't feel an obligation to get involved in the political mess the project is in right now. I tried, I burnt out. I don't feel that my efforts were worthwhile. So I won't be standing for election, I won't be shouting from the sidelines, and I probably won't vote in the next round of ballots.

    You could say I'm packing up my toys. I'm not going home just yet, but I'm not going to play unless you can work out how to make the project somewhere fun to be again.

    = Mike

    --

    To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. -- Theodore Roosevelt



    - posted by poopbot: because we're all crapflooders at heart

    vr0SbODDxq Post #430
  103. Re:Venkman, XUL... ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was actually spelled 'zuul'.

  104. A typical slashdot day by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: anonymous

    "Mmmm... this feels good..." I sighed.
    "Shhh!" hissed Hemos. "We don't want Mark to come in here!"

    True. Having Hemos's 16 year-old brother walk in on us at that moment would not be good. I didn't think he'd be too cool with finding his 12 year-old brother lying naked with me, holding my 11 year-old dick in his hands. But, in all fairness, my hands were eagerly playing with Hemos's dick and balls at that moment, too.

    Hemos's mom and dad had gone to the drive-in, leaving his big brother in charge. In our favor, leaving Mark in charge pretty much guaranteed that we weren't to bother him, and in turn, he'd leave us alone unless we were making too much noise or breaking something. Well, we were being careful to keep quiet because we very much wanted to be left alone.

    We were in Hemos's twin bed, snuggled under the covers with our underwear pushed down to the foot of the bed. The only illumination in the room came from the faint sliver of light that crept in under his bedroom door. Even in the shadows I could make out the shape of my friend; about my height, but heavier. (Hell, I was such a skinny runt that everyone was heavier than me.) Hemos had a crew-cut of white-blonde hair, and was only starting to sprout some pubic hair. But, you had to feel for it because what little pubic hair he possessed was as blonde as the short hair on his hea and could not yet be seen by even a minimal distance.

    And, I was happily feeling for it, running my hands all over Hemos's slightly larger erection and fondling his larger testicles while he courteously stroked my dick. I could tell that he didn't possess the same enthusiasm for cockplay as I did, unless you count his appreciation for the attention devoted to his member. And I knew that my willingness to satisfy his sexual urges was one of the few reasons he even had me sleep over at his place. But, I didn't let that stop me from finding pleasure in the handling of his meat.

    I'd recently had an "introduction", of sorts, to seeing what someone could do with a man's dick with their mouth. While spending the night with my Uncle Jerry a couple weeks before, while I watched in secret, I was treated to a visual display of the intensity and unabashed pleasure that my uncle had obviously enjoyed having another man suck on his cock. From that moment on, I had a yearning that I needed to satisfy. With who was my only question.

    I guess it was time to find out.

    "I... heard that sucking on it feels even better than playing with it." I ventured.

    In the darkness, I could feel a slight jerk of revulsion in Hemos's body.

    "Put a dick in your mouth?" he croaked.

    "Well, " I countered, my heart pounding with anxiety, "I think adults do it all the time."

    "Well, I'm not gonna do it!" Hemos hissed. "That's homo stuff!"

    "Yeah." I sighed disappointedly, while still playing with Hemos's dick. "I guess it is."

    As I stroked his shaft in a steadier, milking rhythm, I could sense Hemos's breaths getting quicker. His manipulations of my dick began to falter as I could feel his body tense beside me. His hips rocked slightly in time with my pumping of his cock, and I cradled his balls tenderly in my other hand. When any attentions to my own dick has completely ebbed, I knew what was about to happen, so I picked up the pace just a bit more while lending a touch more pressure in my grip. Finally, Hemos's breath caught in his throat, and he turned his face fully into his pillow to stifle the moans that broke free as his cock pulsed and throbbed in a dry orgasm within my hands. I continued to massage him and didn't release him from my grasp until his member had gone fully soft.

    "Man," sighed Hemos dreamily after finally catching his breath. "You are so good at that, CmdrTaco."

    At least I had something to be proud of, I guess, as my friend gently withdrew himself from me and rolled onto his back.

    Even though I was only eleven, the irony of Hemos's words and actions were not lost on me. My sucking on him would have been a "homo" thing, but beating him off was okay. Go figure. Within the few moments I had spent mulling over the irony of the thoughts, Hemos had drifted off to sleep. I slipped out from under the covers and down to the cool floor so I could masturbate without shaking the bed. As I toyed with my own dick, I imagined Hemos's cock in my mouth, wondering if the chance would ever really come. Finally, my own climax washed over me, and I got back into the bed.

    I don't sleep real well to begin with, and even worse when I'm not in my own bed. And now, with the thoughts of a dick so close to me, as well as the vivid memories of secretly seeing man-to-man cocksucking pleasure floating through my prepubescent, sex-filled brain, I was not about to fall asleep anytime soon. Lying awake until around 11:30, I finally decided that I needed to do something to satisfy my hungers, or I'd never be able to let it rest. The trick was in finding the guts to follow through.

    I knew that whenever Hemos fell asleep, he pretty much stayed asleep. So, since he was sleeping soundly, lying on his back, I took a deep breath and gingerly ducked my head under the covers and scooted down as much as I could to the foot of the bed. That put my head right at Hemos's hip level. I raised my head and upper body to help create a tent over his crotch. Sniffing around, I found the faint scent of young penis flesh. I inhaled deeply, both in the love of the scent, and in an attempt to slow my pounding heart. I opened my mouth wide over the area where I sensed Hemos's dick to be, and lowered my mouth squarely over his soft cock and balls until I could feel his sparse pubic hairs tickling my cheek. I finally had a dick in my mouth! I just wasn't sure what I'd do if Hemos woke to find his "homo" friend in this situation.

    I remained like that for a long moment, partially in fear of trying anything more, and partly to savor the moment. I carefully let my tongue start to explore his tender penile flesh, enjoying the texture. Then came the excitement that welled within me as his cock began to respond to my attentions and harden in my warm and wet mouth! Butterflies seemed to explode in my stomach and drown out my heartbeat as I felt his dick get to its full size in my mouth. Concentrating in that dark environment, I found myself beginning to identify the shape of his member by taste. The shaft actually seemed to taste different than the head, and the thin skin of his scrotum seemed to harbor another distinct flavor.

    I started to softly suck on Hemos's dick, becoming fascinated at how it just seemed to, well, 'fit' in my mouth... how the head lent itself to the back of my tongue, and how the shaft rested between my tongue and the roof of my mouth. My excitement was so great that my own recently satisfied dick was responding again, inviting me to play. I was sucking a cock, and I was in heaven!

    However, within seconds, Hemos seemed to get restless. In fear, I quickly pulled my mouth away from Hemos's candy stick and held still. The covers rustled, and pulled back.

    "Whatcha doin'?" mumbled Hemos.

    "I... uh... was trying to find my shorts down here," I lied, starting to fumble near our feet. Well, partial lie, because it was a good idea to do so, anyway, and now was as good a time as any.

    "Oh, yeah," said Hemos. "Get mine, too, willya?"

    "S-sure" I stammered, relieved.

    I located the two items of clothing and scooted back up towards the head of the bed. Thankfully, our underwear were pretty easy to distinguish since Hemos wore boxers, and I wore briefs. We both fumbled to put them on in the dark, and then settled back into the bed. I lay stiffly on my back, still harboring some fear that my friend discovered more than he let on, but Hemos simply rolled onto his side, facing away from me, and promptly went back to sleep.

    And, here I was again, so close to my fantasies, yet still so far.

    And very much awake.

    After hearing the clock in the hallway chime midnight, I finally got up to go to the bathroom. Figuring it was late enough not to be an issue, and since even if Hemos's parents were home that they would be in their own bedroom downstairs, I didn't bother to slip on my pants for the short trip down the hall. I walked softly to the bedroom door, and then stepped out into the hallway, illuminated dimly by a bare-bulb night light. I walked past big brother Mark's door to the bathroom at the end of the hall and turned on the light as I shut the door.

    Peeing into the toilet, I looked up at my reflection in the large mirror and smiled slyly to myself. I actually sucked on a dick, even if for only a moment! At that moment I was Rob Maldo, secret agent double-O-seven, who could sneak in and suck a dick, and sneak away without being caught!

    I flushed the toilet and switched out the light as I headed back down the hall. Slipping past Mark's door once again, the door flew open, and a hand covered my mouth while a muscular arm snapped around my waist and drew me into the room. Squirming in the arms of Hemos's athletic older brother was a waste of effort, and he only squeezed harder until I settled down.

    "You'll keep quiet if you know what's good for you,' growled Mark into my ear. "You gonna be quiet?"

    I nodded. Mark let go of my mouth and reached over to close his bedroom door, the other hand and arm still holding me firmly with my feet off the ground. I heard something click, and recalled, and not without a certain amount of childish fear, that Mark had a lock on his door.

    The room had a yellowish glow from the large lava lamp next to Mark's bed. He took me over to the bed and tossed me face down onto it, kneeling next to me. I thought briefly about trying to get up and run, but to where?

    When I felt Mark's hands on me again, I was determined to fight him off, but I was no match for him as he flipped me onto my back and straddled me, sitting squarely on my upper chest, his knees pinning my shoulders and my arms locked between his legs. I gazed up at his lean, muscled torso, his stern blue eyes under a tussled mane of reddish-blonde hair. I could feel the soft fabric of his boxers against my chin.

    "Can't get up, can ya?" he said, grinning down at me, all snide and victorious.

    I struggled a bit, more out of obligation, but knew it was no use. Mark was just too big for me.

    "Whatsamatter?" huffed Mark. "You too weak to fight? Or, maybe you just like laying there, sniffing dicks?"

    I started squirming a bit harder, but Mark's legs only clamped tighter. At least he had scooted down a bit, and was no longer suffocating me with his weight on my chest.

    "Yeah! Maybe you're a homo-boy who just likes sniffing dicks. Maybe you wanna sniff my big dick?"

    I didn't care for where this was going, and I wasn't too comfortable with the tone of Mark's voice. But, I was also not being given much of a choice in the matter. Especially when Mark reached into the fly of his boxers and pulled out his cock.

    "Here you are, homo-boy... a nice, fresh big-man dick!" grinned Mark fiendishly. "Ain't it a beaut?"

    He held it out for me, then leaned forward and started to rub his cock on my face, tracing my cheeks and nose with the bulbous head. His testicles soon followed his dick through the opening, until they were dangling on my chin, the coarse pubes tickling my lips. Their faint musky scent began to fill my nostrils.

    "CmdrTaco's just a little dick-faced homo-boy, ain't he?" sneered Mark, sliding his cock across my face. "I saw you in there, your head under the covers. What were you doing? Giving my little brother a blow job?"

    I didn't answer. I was at once shocked at the thought of having been discovered, and confused by Mark's remark. I then guessed that he meant sucking a dick was called a 'blow job'. But... you're not blowing, you're sucking, and-

    "You were, weren't you, you little homo!"

    It was obvious what had happened; that Mark had looked in on us to find my head under the blankets. I thought I had sensed a miniscule change in the light, but assumed that to be part of my excitement. That must have been what woke Hemos up so suddenly.

    "So, maybe you aren't just dick-faced, " he said, rubbing his cock on my face again. "Maybe you're a dick sucker!" He leaned forward, mashing his hairy ball sack into my nose, then pulling back to trace my features again with his member. But, even as Mark taunted me, treating his cock as a threatening weapon, there was something else happening.

    He was getting a boner.

    And as I closed my eyes, I could feel his cock thickening against my face. I could sense the heat of his hardening dick directly on my flesh. And, I found I was enjoying the sensations of this older cock against my face. There would soon be no way of hiding the fact that I was getting excited, too.

    "So, dick-sucker-CmdrTaco... you're gonna suck my dick, now."

    My eyes sprung open to see Mark's fully erect cock pointing at my face. While it wasn't huge (I had already seen 'huge' with my Uncle Jerry), it was still big enough to scare me.

    And excite me to no end.

    "Open wide, homo-boy."

    Without another moment of hesitation, or taking my eyes off of Mark's sleek tool, I opened my mouth as wide as I could and watched as he leaned down and slid that beautiful cock into my waiting mouth. I then settled my tongue against the bottom half of his shaft while I could feel the upper half press against the roof of my mouth. Its texture was soft, yet hard; smooth, yet distinct.

    "There," he sighed. "Now, you have a real dick to suck on. Now, get started, suck-boy!"

    It was so much bigger than Hemos's young dick, I wasn't sure if I could get enough suction worked up to suck on it. It was then that I found out what sucking a cock is really all about: friction.

    Mark held the base of his dick to guide himself and started to pump into my mouth, sliding his dick in and out of my salivating lips. He would slip in precariously between my teeth until he was near to choke me, then pull back out until the base of the bulbous head was just close to popping free from my lips, held in place by the suction of my mouth. Then he... we... would do it all over again... over and over... and gloriously over again.

    "Oh, you are good, CmdrTaco," he moaned softly. "You suck cock real good."

    I don't know about that; it seemed he was doing all the real work. But, I wanted it to be good. I wanted to have this dick in my mouth. And I wanted it again and again. I was definitely enjoying the oral sensations as his near-adult dick worked back and forth in my hungry mouth, and I wanted so much to please him so he would want my mouth again.

    Mark placed his other hand on the top of my head to steady me as his thrusts became a little more erratic. His breath quickened, and I could sense that he was trying hard not to ram himself all the way down my throat and choke me. He was making little grunts with each thrust, and I could feel his dick turn to stone in my mouth when, in a mix of fear and excitement, I suddenly recalled what would happen next.

    "Oh, baby... oh, fuck..."

    Mark's movements got all quick and jerky. I was almost afraid to breathe.

    "OHHHH!!!" he moaned, pulling out of my mouth and letting loose with a burst of white goo that seemed to splatter all over as he pumped his dick with his fist. My head still held firmly in his other hand, the warm liquid flew partly into my still open mouth, and all over my nose and eyebrows. I swallowed briefly, not sure whether to gag or hope for more, tasting fully the salty and musky liquid, then opened my mouth once more as Mark stuck his creaming cock back in and worked the thick fluid throughout my young mouth.

    I sucked until Mark went soft and withdrew his spent dick. He smiled down at me, obviously proud of what he had done. He finally got off of me (good thing since I thought my arms were going to fall off) and stood there for a moment, an interesting picture with his hands on his hips, and his drained cock and balls hanging out of the fly of his plaid boxers. I just lay there with his juices clinging to my skin, wanting to do it all over again.

    Mark bent down and picked up a t-shirt, and proceeded to wipe the remainder of his goo off my face. Finished with that, he tossed the shirt into a hamper and walked over to his bedroom door to unlock it as he tucked his manhood back into his underwear.

    "You better get back into Hemos's bed before mom and dad find you here," he said softly.

    I reluctantly got off Mark's bed and walked to the door. As I was about to exit, he reached out to stop me briefly.

    "You liked that, didn't you, homo-boy?"

    I nodded, not sure where he was going with this inquiry.

    "Your first taste of cum?"

    I shrugged, then nodded again.

    "If you're good, maybe I'll let you suck my dick again some time, CmdrTaco. Now, get your ass out of here before I kick it."

    I stepped out of the room and felt the door close harshly behind me. I could still taste traces of Mark's cum in my mouth, could still sense the friction of his cock on my tongue. I smiled in remembrance.

    I was hooked.

    - posted by poopbot: news for turds, stuff that splatters

    Th9S3oZ9xF Post #431

  105. Gestures by Bert+Peers · · Score: 3, Informative
    Indeed, indeed.

    I want to take this opportunity to pimp the imho hottest invention since sliced bread : gesture based browsing. Ok, maybe not the hottest, but certainly the most surprising; when I first heard of this, it sounded like one of those typical academic nutty ideas that all look great on a whiteboard, but are just a pain IRL (Black and White, anyone ?). But after trying it out for a month, I can say it just seriously, totally, completely, ROCKS. In fact, it is so good that I find myself trying to use gestures for regular windows stuff. Especially stuff like Minimize and Back would be really good to have systemwide, so you can just sweep a file explorer away rather than go aiming for that little '_' button..

    The gestures are also a big convenience when you extensively use tabbed browsing.

    In short.. if, like me, you thought this was a totally useless pet project of some academic... you're wrong. Get it now.

  106. Hello by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Introduction

    A fairy gives lectures on morality to the feline anomaly. Furthermore, another photon near an abstraction takes a coffee break, and a mortician buries a blithe spirit. The wedding dress secretly admires a college-educated ball bearing. If the freight train figures out a fire hydrant near a pit viper, then some mating ritual beyond another cowboy reads a magazine. Any squid can find lice on a freight train, but it takes a real recliner to ostensibly plan an escape from another pit viper defined by a prime minister a cough syrup toward a graduated cylinder.

    Another mating ritual

    For example, a blood clot about a turn signal indicates that a financial bartender borrows money from a warranty. When a demon is imaginative, a paper napkin secretly admires an often snooty graduated cylinder. If the grain of sand learns a hard lesson from the short order cook behind some graduated cylinder, then another blithe spirit flies into a rage. Any pig pen can lazily require assistance from a burly plaintiff, but it takes a real fighter pilot to caricature the steam engine over a satellite. Another eagerly temporal minivan slyly buries the obsequious squid, or a briar patch usually gives lectures on morality to a cyprus mulch.

    A gratifying fairy

    Sometimes another cashier reads a magazine, but the fraction for the cyprus mulch always buries a power drill toward the demon! The light bulb befriends a satellite of an apartment building. A lazily Alaskan roller coaster sanitizes another mitochondrial traffic light, or some burglar eats a hesitantly smelly plaintiff. For example, a seldom righteous traffic light indicates that an ocean knows some chestnut inside the tabloid. If the earring somewhat finds subtle faults with a pine cone, then the wheelbarrow hibernates.

    The cocker spaniel about the salad dressing

    For example, the umbrella toward an abstraction indicates that the dolphin near a ball bearing caricatures a girl scout near some diskette. A cocker spaniel for the judge reads a magazine, and a pine cone finds subtle faults with a rattlesnake. Furthermore, the hairy movie theater returns home, and a grizzly bear near a paycheck is a big fan of a childlike burglar. For example, a canyon living with a graduated cylinder indicates that the industrial complex buries a jersey cow.

    Conclusions

    A squid around a jersey cow meditates, and another nation sweeps the floor; however, a scooby snack knowingly finds subtle faults with an apartment building living with another chain saw. When a hockey player around a paycheck is smelly, a minivan has a change of heart about an oil filter about an asteroid. The bartender around a polygon is barely soggy. Indeed, another rattlesnake befriends a warranty. Indeed, the carpet tack for an abstraction usually caricatures an elusive h

    - posted by poopbot: for the crapflooder in all of us

    wqystOlONP Post #432

  107. Hello by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Introduction

    The cheese wheel inexorably avoids contact with the paycheck. The steam engine goes deep sea fishing with an often outer ski lodge. When the cyprus mulch over a vacuum cleaner hides, a ball bearing gets stinking drunk.

    The tornado

    For example, a submarine behind a class action suit indicates that the optimal fairy satiates an Alaskan recliner. When a mitochondrial bottle of beer is thoroughly dirt-encrusted, a most difficult blood clot underhandedly writes a love letter to a defendant. An earring pees on the cashier over some globule, but the pathetic crane sells another vacuum cleaner behind a scythe to a false wheelbarrow. If a chess board defined by a grain of sand makes love to a crispy cyprus mulch, then a particle accelerator flies into a rage.

    A Eurasian globule

    The feline minivan earns frequent flier miles, and the buzzard defined by a ball bearing trembles; however, a senator living with the girl scout learns a hard lesson from the inferiority complex. Any chain saw can try to seduce the particle accelerator, but it takes a real salad dressing to play pinochle with the inexorably precise paycheck. Furthermore, another seldom load bearing defendant flies into a rage, and a paycheck around a light bulb seeks a roller coaster around another bartender. If a crank case makes love to the diskette, then the squid toward a mortician meditates. Now and then, an insurance agent thoroughly avoids contact with a pompous turkey.

    A microscope

    Most people believe that an orbiting diskette trades baseball cards with a movie theater, but they need to remember how secretly a statesmanlike short order cook wakes up. A paternal roller coaster is usually financial. When the accurately varigated hole puncher takes a coffee break, a slyly smelly garbage can earns frequent flier miles. For example, the phony cheese wheel indicates that the tornado near a fruit cake hesitantly gives lectures on morality to a salad dressing defined by the corporation. The carpet tack near a cargo bay, some parking lot toward a warranty, and a stovepipe beyond a freight train are what made America great!

    Conclusions

    A judge beyond the briar patch laughs and drinks all night with the snooty chestnut. A raspy burglar conquers a bowling ball. For example, another plaintiff toward a bartender indicates that the ski lodge behind a fairy finds lice on a burglar. If some rattlesnake toward a cheese wheel can be kind to a blood clot, then the elusive movie theater self-flagellates. When a photon related to a turkey is most difficult, a self-loathing bottle of beer falls in love with a pickup truck living with the paycheck.

    - posted by poopbot: news for turds, stuff that splatters

    VTnH64BWSO Post #433

  108. WinXP Shows where MS is Going by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Windows XP Shows the Direction Microsoft is Going.

    "I've heard WinXP removed the cmd/command prompt."

    No, Microsoft didn't remove the CMD.EXE or COMMAND.COM prompt from Windows XP. But Windows XP has reduced functionality, in many ways, not just in the command line. The command line is a big embarrassment because of its limited capabilities, but at least in Win 95 it worked. With every version since then it has worked less well. (There are two kinds of command prompt, and, according to Microsoft employees, the differences between them are not documented.)

    The command line prompt sometimes begins to display short file names. Microsoft employees say that Microsoft has no fix, although someone not connected with Microsoft did make a work-around.

    Cutting and pasting into a command line program often puts successive extra spaces before each line. Microsoft employees say that there is no plan to fix this.

    The fast paste mode that is in Windows 98 is gone in Windows XP. Microsoft employees say there is no plan to fix this.

    When using the command line interface, Windows XP doesn't always update the time. After several hours, the time reported to command line programs can be several hours in error.

    There is a DOS program called START.EXE that can be used to start other programs. But it does operate the same way as in other versions of Windows. It starts a program, but cannot be made to return control to the command line program as previous versions did. There is no technical reason for this; it is just one of the shortcomings that are allowed to exist.

    People often say that DOS has gone away. But Microsoft still calls the command line interface DOS, and in Windows XP Microsoft has added new programs for configuring the OS that work only under DOS.

    Sometimes when you press a key while using Windows XP, it is seconds until there is any response. Apparently there is something wrong with the CPU scheduler in XP, because there are a lot of complaints about this in the forums and MS people have said that they are working on it. On one particular fresh installation of XP, on an Intel motherboard with either a Matrox G550 or an ATI Radeon video adapter, it requires 18 seconds to display a directory listing of 94 items. This is apparently related to a bug in the video software, not the adapter drivers.

    Something is wrong with the Alt-Tab display of running programs under Windows XP. If there are a lot of programs, not all of them are displayed. The order jumps around in a seemingly random way.

    Although articles often say negative things about Microsoft, I've never seen an article that fully documents how bad the situation really is. Microsoft's management is so bad that the company has become self-destructive. For example, Windows XP is spyware. Here is a list of ways Windows XP connects to Microsoft's servers:
    1. Application Layer Gateway Service (Requires server rights.)
    2. Fax Service
    3. File Signature Verification
    4. Generic Host Process for Win32 Services (Requires server rights.)
    5. Microsoft Application Error Reporting
    6. Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer
    7. Microsoft Direct Play Voice Test
    8. Microsoft Help and Support Center
    9. Microsoft Help Center Hosting Server (Wants server rights.)
    10. Microsoft Management Console
    11. Microsoft Media Player (tells Microsoft the music you like)
    12. Microsoft Network Availability Test
    13. Microsoft Volume Shadow Copy Service
    14. MS DTC Console program
    15. Run DLL as an app
    16. Services and Controller app
    17. Time Service, sets the time on your computer from Microsoft's computer.
    18. Microsoft Office keeps a number in each file you create that identifies your computer. Microsoft has never said why.
    19. Microsoft mouse software has reduced functionality until you let it connect to Microsoft computers.
    These are just the ones I know. There may be others.

    So, if you use Windows XP, your computer is dependent on Microsoft computers. That's bad, not only because you lose control over your possession, but because Microsoft produces buggy software and doesn't patch bugs quickly. For example, as of July 7, 2002, there are 18 unpatched security holes in Microsoft Internet Explorer. This is a terrible record for a company that has $40 billion in the bank. Obviously, with that kind of money, Microsoft could fix the bugs if it wanted to fix them. Since the bugs are very public and Microsoft has the money, it seems reasonable to suppose that top management at Microsoft has deliberately decided that the bugs should remain, at least for now.

    It seems possible that there is a connection between all the bugs and the U.S. government's friendly treatment of Microsoft's law-breaking. The U.S. government's CIA and FBI and NSA departments spy on the entire world, and unpatched vulnerabilities in Microsoft software help spies.

    Windows XP, and all current Windows operating systems, have a file called the registry in which configuration information is written. If this one (large, often fragmented) file becomes corrupted, the only way of recovering may be to re-format the hard drive, re-install the operating system, and then re-install and re-configure all the applications. The registry file is a single, very vulnerable, point of failure. Microsoft apparently designed it this way to provide copy protection. Since most entries in the registry are poorly documented or not documented, the registry effectively prevents control by the user.

    Note that Microsoft does not support making functional complete backups under Windows XP. Look at Microsoft's policy about this: Q314828 Microsoft Policy on Disk Duplication of Windows XP Installation. Only those who work with Microsoft software will understand the true meaning of Microsoft's policy. Since almost all programs use the registry operating system file, if you cannot make a functional copy of the operating system you cannot make a functional copy of all your application installations and configurations. There are other software companies that try to fix this, but they don't work well, and Microsoft can, of course, break their implementations, as they have often done with other kinds of competitors.

    Because the configuration information for the motherboard and the configuration information for the are mixed together in the registry file, the registry tends to prevent you from moving a hard drive to a computer with a different motherboard. That's another implication of the above Microsoft policy. So, if you have a motherboard failure, and a good complete backup, you may not be able to recover unless you have a spare computer with the same motherboard.

    Note that Windows XP Professional can support only ten simultaneous incoming network connections. If you want more than that, you must use Windows 2000 server, and pay much, much more. (There is no Windows XP server yet.) Many businesses have very light network traffic; they just move files from staff member to staff member; they really don't need a dedicated server computer. The staff computers could easily handle the load except for this artificial limitation.

    Apparently because the Windows XP GUI comes from Windows 98, Windows XP has the same problem with desktop icons that Windows 98 has. The icons sometimes flicker. Sometimes they move themselves around, particularly after the user switches monitor resolutions. Also, sometimes the taskbar settings un-configure themselves, as they do in Windows 98.

    Only technically knowledgeable people know how to avoid signing up for a Microsoft Passport account during initial use of Windows XP. The name Passport gives an indication of Microsoft's thinking. A passport is a document issued by a sovereign nation. Without it, the nation's citizens cannot travel, and, if they leave, won't be allowed back in their own country. In Microsoft's corporate thinking, the company seems to be moving in the direction of believing that they own the user's computer. Most people are both honest and intimidated. Apparently about 95% do whatever they are asked on the screen. They give their personal information to Microsoft. They don't realize that, if they feel forced to get a Passport account, they should enter almost completely fictitious information, since the real question is not "What is your name and address", but "Can we invade your privacy". The honest answer to this is "No, you cannot invade my privacy", and the only effective way to communicate that is to give completely fictitious information. Since it is the educated people who have computers, Microsoft is building a database of the personal lives of educated people. Microsoft knows when they connect and from what IP address (which tends to show the area), what kind of help they ask, and information about what they are doing with their computers, including what music they like. It is not known, and there is no way to know, how much Microsoft or other organizations make use of this information, or their plans for future use.

    Not only has Windows XP definitely gone further in the direction of allowing the user less control over his or her own machine, but with Palladium, Microsoft apparently intends to finish the job: Microsoft will have ultimate control over the user's computer and therefore all his or her data. Even now, under Windows XP, a recent security patch requires that the user agree to a contract that gives Microsoft administrator privileges over the user's computer. The contract says that if a user wants to patch his or her system against a bug which would allow an attack over the Internet, he or she must give Microsoft legal control over the computer. See this article also: Microsoft's Digital Rights Management-- A Little Deeper. You may need to be a lawyer to take apart the crucial sentence. "These security related updates may disable your ability to copy and/or play Secure Content and [my emphasis] use other software on your computer" legally includes this meaning: "These updates may disable your ability to use other software on your computer." Note that the term "security related updates" is meaningless to the user because the updates have no relation to user security. So, the sentence effectively means that Microsoft can control the user's computer without notice and whenever it wants. That kind of sentence is known in psychology as "testing the limits". If there is no strong public complaint about this, expect to see more and stronger language like this.

    This Register article shows the direction Microsoft is going: MS Palladium protects IT vendors, not you. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and Microsoft is well down that road. See this ZDNet article, also: MS: Why we can't trust your 'trustworthy' OS.

    Microsoft's self-destructiveness does not mean that the user should be self-destructive. There is no need to apologize for using Microsoft software. The correct solution to abuse is persuading the abuser to stop being abusive. Once I posted to a Slashdot story a link to an article on a web site of mine. By far the majority of visitors from the Slashdot story used Microsoft operating systems. Rather than feel embarrassed because Microsoft is abusive, action needs to be taken to prevent the abuse. If you are against Microsoft abuse, you are not against Microsoft; you are more pro-Microsoft than Bill Gates.

    These Microsoft policies mean that any government which wants to be independent of the United States government, and any government which represents itself as controlled by the people, cannot use Microsoft operating systems, or other Microsoft proprietary systems.




    - posted by poopbot: providing truth in a deceitful world

    HKYJj9ZD5x Post #434
  109. Taco-snotting is dying by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Netcraft has confirmed: Taco-snotting is dying.

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered Taco-snotting community when recently IDC confirmed that Taco-snotting accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all homosexual acts. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that Taco-snotting has lost more fag practitioners, this news serves to reinforce what weve known all along. Taco-snotting faggots are collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Faggot World comprehensive snotting test.

    You dont need to be a Katz to predict Taco-snottings future. The handwriting is on the wall: Taco-snotting faces a bleak future. In fact there wont be any future at all for Taco-snotting because Taco-snotting is dying. Things are looking very bad for Taco-snotting. As many of us are already aware, Taco-snotting continues to lose faggotshare. White ink flows like a river of bubbly, thick jizz. The circle-snot is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core snotters.

    Lets keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    Circle-snotting leader Jeff Homos Masterbates states that there are 7000 snotters of the circle-snot. How many users of anal snot are there? Lets see. The number of circle-snotting versus anal snot posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 anal snot users. SnotOS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of anal snot posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of SnotOS. A recent article put the circle-snot at about 80 percent of the Taco-snotting market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 circle-snot users. This is consistent with the number of circle-snot Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of CowboiKneels walnuts, abysmal sales and so on, the circle-snot went out of business and was taken over by SNOTi who sell another troubled Taco-snot. Now SNOTi is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another gay whorehouse.

    All major surveys show that Taco-snotting has steadily declined in faggotshare. Taco-snotting is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Taco-snotting is to survive at all it will be among heterosexual hobbyist dabblers. Taco-snotting continues to decay. Nothing short of a jizz-soaked miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Taco-snotting is dead.

    Fact: Taco-snotting is dead.

    - posted by poopbot: providing truth in a deceitful world

    PHA4Dlzs9v Post #435

  110. yes SVG! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    its in there, but you have to enable it when you build. the reason they are not using it because of a licencing issue which you can read about at the mozilla site.

    there is also a plug in from adobe but it doesnt seem to work as good for the subset that the native support does handle.

    1. Re:yes SVG! by oever · · Score: 1

      I can't find any information about SVG and licencing on the mozilla.org.

      There is an SVG enabled build for windows, but not for Linux. If there really was a licencing issue, the windows build would not exist.

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  111. context menu back by winne+too · · Score: 1

    i was quite annoyed by this behaviour as well (no context menu on images, makes browsing pr0n rather unpleasant), but with just a handfull of hints, everybody can alter this behaviour.
    requirements: jar/unzip and a text editor.
    mozilla/chrome/comm.jar needs to be unpacked, maintaining the directory structure. you can either use jar (part of at least sun's jdk) or rename it to .zip and unzip it.
    in the unzipped tree, edit content/communicator/nsContextMenu.js .
    alter the conditions in line 97 to match your preferences (mine are this.showItem( "context-back", !( this.onLink || this.onTextInput ) ); for example).
    save, re-archive (maintaining directory structure) and enjoy.

  112. Saving my favorite bugs by oliverthered · · Score: 2

    Saving a file appends the mime type extension, all those nice larlar.tgz.gz's or larlar.tgz.txt's

    The name mangeling problem
    lar lar.tgz turns into lar%20lar.tgz

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  113. Proxy by Thnurg · · Score: 1

    Does this one support authorisation with an ISA proxy?
    I'm sick of being stuck with IE in the office simply because the IT department have been assimilated.

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    1. Re:Proxy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Try here:
      - NTLM Authorization Proxy Server
      Works just fine.

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      http://www.emuunlim.com/hob/

    2. Re:Proxy by Nadir · · Score: 1

      Bug 23679 is being worked on. There is even a patch

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  114. XFT and new Mozilla versions? by thesolo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm currently running Mozilla 1.0 with XFT (Available here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/experim ental/xft/Red_Hat_7x_RPMS/1.0/SRPMS/), and it is just excellent. The font smoothing provided by XFT makes Mozilla look just amazing. (if you've never seen it, there is a nice screenshot available here) So, here is my question:

    Is there anyway to upgrade Mozilla while still keeping the XFT core?? I think even doing a rpm -Uvh will overwrite the XFT portion and give me a nice, new 1.1b with crumbly looking fonts again, which I don't want to do. If anyone has any idea on how I can do this, please let me know. Thanks!!

    1. Re:XFT and new Mozilla versions? by neroz · · Score: 1

      Dear god man! Use some compression on your pngs, or you may as well use bmp! That is a HUGE image for a screenshot.

    2. Re:XFT and new Mozilla versions? by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 1

      That image must just be hard to compress:

      Recompressing galeon_and_mozilla.png
      Total length of data found in IDAT chunks = 1624514
      IDAT length with method 1 (fm 0 zl 4 zs 0)= 1245302
      IDAT length with method 2 (fm 1 zl 4 zs 0)= 1581504
      IDAT length with method 3 (fm 5 zl 4 zs 1)= 1763580
      IDAT length with method 4 (fm 0 zl 9 zs 1)= 1180842
      IDAT length with method 7 (fm 0 zl 9 zs 0)= 1132372
      Best pngcrush method = 7 for galeon_and_mozilla_crushed.png (30.32% reduction)

    3. Re:XFT and new Mozilla versions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you like smoothed fonts, you definitely want to take a look at this XFT Hack. If you scroll down to April 13, 2002, there's a link to a patch file. You can apply this patch to the XFree86 4.2.0 sources (I even built a RH7.3 spec file based on the original spec file that automagically applies the patch while building the SRPM). The screenshots speak for themselves. I find best results with Opera 6, QT, X 4.2, Win XP fonts (*.ttf in \windows\fonts) and QT_XFT=1.

  115. Mozilla Win32: GUI Font Size bigger than 1.0 by The+Usiller · · Score: 1

    Does anyone else notice this problem? I don't like it and I want to make the GUI font size as big as in version 1.0. How to make it smaller?

  116. Re:Mozilla is Dying...2 years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The same thing was said 2 years ago in this link
    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/07/31/122722 8&mode=nested&tid=154
    then return again in 2 years with the same FUD.

    I would like the tab buttons on the right side of the screen.

  117. Installer :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    There's just something that still bothers me... Why does he have to remove the /usr/local/mozilla? (net installer at least) He could at least remove everything, but not the plugins directory...
    If someone forgets to save the plugins, it's a little bitxy to go over and search for them again...

  118. FreeBSD is dead == No Binary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, but get used to reality. No more binaries.

  119. Quiet Errors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One thing that disturbs me is the way the Mozilla team treats serious errors. For instance if you imported mail groups from NS4 into NS6 (Yes, I know that is Netscape, but I am here talking about the Mozilla core and this was mentioned in their error database, do read on) all folders (yes entire folders) were dropped. No joking.

    Later on I caught an error report on Mozilla site that stated that if you importeda folder where there was an instance of blank subject line the entire folder would be quietly dropped. In next release this serious error ws not mentioned that it was fixed, as if it had never happened!

    What I would like to have seen was full disclosure and a tool to help you import back in the folders that were dropped. And yes, I have lost folders too.

    Folders are still fragile; if your session crashes (and that is not rare) and you were in Mail/News, the News databases become messed up. Read/unread articles are marked as should be but thread count is way off. And there is NO WAY TO REPAIR. Obvious try, pressing shift-ctrl-C to do a catch up does not work.

    All in all there are errors that are serious and when they are fixed there is little mention of them.

    I would like to see full disclosure.

  120. on moderation by commodoresloat · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    You're a troll because the moderation system is, in essence, distributed incompetence.

    Hrm. As I write this, the parent (grandparent?) post has been moderated +5 funny which is exactly as it should be. I think the distribution allows for whatever reason that exists in the "common person" (or in this case the common slashdotter, which is already highly uncommon) to outweigh the incompetence. I think the moderation system, as fucked up as it is sometimes, is the best way I've ever seen of trying to do something like this. In the end, interesting and insightful comments do get modded up, and the discussions are usually a joy to read at +3 or above. If you're going to bitch about the moderation system here, at least offer concrete suggestions for improvement.

    1. Re:on moderation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...he says as he's modded down.

  121. MacOS builds are big by ChristTrekker · · Score: 1

    This is one thing I've wondered about for a long time. Why is code for the MacOS (even more so for MacOS X, based on Mozilla) so much bigger than equivalent code for other platforms? I mean, 9.8 MB for Windows, but 13 for MacOS and 16 for MacOS X? Sheesh.

  122. why i CANNOT USE MOZILLA!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    URLs using telnet:// do not work in Linux (and possibly other UNIX systems). telnet:// URLs work for Win32 and MacOS. Workaround: Install protozilla
    from http://protozilla.mozdev.org/. (Bug 33282)

    please fix this damned bug!

  123. (JRE reply) Re:Venkman, XUL... ? by FroMan · · Score: 1

    I have been using Sun's JRE without a problem. So, I kinda reccomend it. Basically I can have the same environment in linux and windows with Mozilla with it.

    http://java.sun.com

    --
    Norris/Palin 2012
    Fact: We deserve leaders who can kick your ass and field dress your carcass.
  124. Performance on Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I the only one to find Mozilla very, very nice in theory, but still very, very slow on Linux? I use Netscape Mail, and the Mozilla version takes forever to bring up the windows. I don't have a particularly slow workstation - unless 450 MHz K6 with 512 Mb RAM is now seen as insufficient for Mozilla (while being perfectly sufficient for everything else I do, including development). I see lots of people talking about how great Mozilla is, and I agree totally, it's just that it still seems sooooo slooowwww! Is it just because the entire user interface is now written using this XUL language? Will it always be slow? Sorry, but I keep finding myself just going back to 4.79, just because it's fast and very responsive. Is this just me?

    1. Re:Performance on Linux? by dmnic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      not just Linux. on Windows 2000 Pro(sp2), Linux is extremely memory AND CPU hungry. even more memory hungry if you use the "quick start" function....which in all honesty, doesnt speed up the mozilla start process like it says it should.

      I peronally dont mind the somewhat slower page rendering times, mainly because I love the tab features.

      but for my gateway(router, ftp, apache, furthur s/ling) I'm still using IE5 as my browser(IE6 is horrible)

  125. Memory usage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Plain and simple, Mozilla does use up more memory than IE6. I still prefer using Mozilla, but I think they should spend some more time on looking at their memory usage. This would be an improvement that I would put at the top of my list.

  126. Beat me to it - here's another version anyway by danrees · · Score: 1

    A slightly darker version I did before seeing your post.

  127. Hmm. Source? by Zigg · · Score: 2

    Anyone else curious why this is the first Mozilla release I've seen in awhile that didn't have a source tarball in the release directory somewhere?

  128. Rewrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Well, you are way behind the curve.

    Example: PCMCIA cards were renamed PC-cards. That was after someone reinterpred it as People Cannot Memorise Computer Industry Acronyms.

  129. Finally: a browser that works. by $criptah · · Score: 1


    This is a little bit old, but I am very glad that Mozilla has been recognized by eWeek. They had a nice review (see the link above) and I do agree with the author: there is nothing that Mozilla lacks (compared to the existing browsers). The only thing that I'd like to see in the future is anti-aliased fonts!

  130. Re:Venkman, XUL... ? by cjpez · · Score: 2
    Seriously, I run 'zilla 1.1a on all my machines... (linux router...)
    Um, what's Mozilla doing on a router? Just curious . . .
  131. Can't run Mozilla if policy prohibits foreign exes by yerricde · · Score: 1

    I use mozilla all the time, you know why? Because no matter what computer I'm on, I can run it.

    Not if the computer is a school-issue P100 with 24 MB of RAM.

    Not if you don't have the admin password, and the admin has configured your account not to run binaries from /home.

    --
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  132. Silent installer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How are large corporations supposed to deploy this without a silent installer?

    1. Re:Silent installer? by sconest · · Score: 1

      There are the zip or tar.gz files (depending of your OS)

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  133. Spell checker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mozdev.org should have one. The site is real slow now, however.

    1. Re:Spell checker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      yep, it's real slow, but david and pete are working on getting a new server and moving to a faster datacenter. they've done a fantastic job, and have been very helpful with my project (which is not Spellchecker btw). here's the direct link to Spellchecker, install it today!

      Spellchecker

      P

  134. uh: Netscape 5.0 7.87 % is mozilla, dumbass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dumbass.

  135. Re: more bugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TEXTAREA wrapping still doesnt work. the OBJECT tag for applets still doesnt work and mozilla has no way to turn off its built in firewall (to see this in action go to http://localhost:6000) from the preferences menu.

  136. Slashdot user, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're an old Slashdot regular - aren't you?

    One of those people that likes to read Slashdot every day (or multiple times a day), participate in the discussions (usually loudly and proudly), and derive great pleasure from complaining about how bad Slashdot is these days.

  137. Call me crazy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    but I usually like to see W3C compliance in my web browsers...or at least a constant sloppy compliance across the board. Not only do I now have to make sure NS4.7 and IE look pretty, but I also have to make sure I don't use any CSS markups that Mozilla 5.0 handles horribly wrong.

  138. Re:Quartz Rendering?? No antialiased Fonts for X ? by friedmud · · Score: 2

    the last thing you want to do is try to figure out why the hell you're KDE-enabled App won't run on a machine with only Gnome libraries

    Wha? This isn't even a function of X! This has nothing to do with X at all. If you want to say X sucks - that's fine, provide some examples. But just spouting off shit makes you look like an idiot.

    Regardless of whether you use X or Aqua or even WINDOWS you still have to have all the libraries installed for whatever app you want to run. Don't you remember the days of installing the visual basic runtimes in windows because some shareware app didn't work??

    This is a universal problem with dynamically linked libraries, the only way to get around it is to hard link and that creates HUGE programs - which is not very conducive to the linux theory of "download everything" - and is very wasteful of hardrive space.

    Next time you want to bash an established (and working!) standard - why don't you try to come up with some better examples.

    Derek

  139. Why is the Moz lizzard eating STAROFFICE ??? by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 0

    Oh... I get it... you mean *after* Microsoft RIPPED OFF SUN'S STARTOFFICE butterfly the picture becomes a whole "linux eats MS" thing...

    ...hehe, I get it now...

  140. What about .NET? by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 0


    (begin angry flaming sarcasm)
    Does it run with all my .NET crap, because I love shoving Microsoft sh!t in my mouth!
    (end angry flaming sarcasm)

    GO TEAM GO! That browser gets better and better. Wish I was smart enough to contribute, the product is oh so sweet! It was what helped me Switch(TM, Apple Corp.) to Linux years ago... all I wanted was a good brower and it was the one I likes (sure, Konq is good too, DOWN BOY!)

    1. Re:What about .NET? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      put your penis away and go find a woman.

    2. Re:What about .NET? by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 1

      You're mom already left for the evening, said she wanted to make it home before you got back from school. Oh... you said "woman"... well then, I guess she doesn't count and I should go out and find one, then. Cheers! ;)

  141. CITIBANK ONLINE also fails.... by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 0

    :(

    The DAY it works with Citibank online, I'll Switch(TM, Apple Corp.) But I can't send the moz team the URL that doesn't work, cause it's only AFTER I login and go to the main balance screen. I e-mailed and got a reply from Citibank developent manager (after TONS of requests to get an e-mail from an actualy programmer there). To paraphrase citibank, "We only check out stuff in Explorer and Netscape. We don't test any other browers."

    Sad... I have thought about moving my money to a more Unix friendsly bank, but citibank online is just too good in current IE needing form for me to Switch(TM, Apple Corp.)

  142. Passport / Hotmail by ink · · Score: 2
    Passport and Hotmail are still broken, courtesy of Microsoft:

    http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141279

    Reproducible: Always
    Steps to Reproduce:
    1.go to hotmail
    2.choose create new account
    3.

    Actual Results: unable to sign up

    Expected Results: message telling me to use netscape 4.0 or higher or IE

    --
    The wheel is turning, but the hamster is dead.
    1. Re:Passport / Hotmail by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      Browsing through the bugreport comments, I got a good laugh from the story of a guy who contacted some hotmail people about the blocking. I especially loved all the people commenting on how frustrating it must be, and then following that up with the most hair pulling answers imaginable. My hats off to this guy for persevering as long as he did.

      ------- Additional Comment #17 From ukmeatisrubbish@yahoo.co.uk 2002-06-02 14:08 -------

      I've contacted them and these are the replies I've had:

      I am Roxanne and I am replying to your inquiry regarding the error message you
      received.
      I understand how important it is for you to access and use your account without
      difficulty.
      Please be advised to upgrade your browser to the latest version.
      Download the latest version of Netscape Navigator at:
      http://www.netscape.com/download/
      If you have continued problems, please reply to this e-mail message with a
      detailed description. Let me know exactly what you did and where the process
      fails and include the exact wording of any error messages.

      So I tell them I am using the 'latest version' so then:

      This is Margarita and I am writing to you in response to your problem changing
      your password. I understand your frustration because you are receiving an error
      message when attempting to do so.
      May I suggest that you use another PC when trying to change your password. In
      this way, we would be able to isolate the problem. It is possible that the
      error that you are encountering is caused by your system's configuration.
      Please send us another email message if in case the same problem persists.
      If you should have further questions, please feel free to email me and I would
      be glad to help you again. Thank you for your patience, cooperation and
      continued support.

      So I tell them I've tried that and it still doesn't work. So then they reply:

      This is Bryan and I've checked the account in question and it appears to be
      functioning properly. Hotmail is currently up and running on its maximum speed.
      We are not experiencing any technical problem as of this period. We suggest that
      you contact the Technical Support of Netscape Navigator regarding this matter.
      They can give you a much comprehensive help on your inquiry.

      So I tell them that it's got nothing to do with Netscape navigator, and I'm not
      even using Netscape anyway, I'm using Mozilla. So then:

      This is Gina and I am writing in response to your problem with using your
      Hotmail account. I understand your frustration regarding the matter.
      I believe your problem is due to your browser settings and configurations.
      Please contact the support group of the browser you are using so that they may
      address the problem immediately.

      So here I am contacting the 'support group' . But as we all very well know, it's
      them, not Mozilla...

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      Everything will be taken away from you.
  143. WHY THE FUCK IS THIS -1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    You moderators have all been blinded by a giant king hell taco-snot. Oh, and just so I'm not offtopic, IE6 is better. I've used Mozilla over the past few years and all it does is crash my system. Let me guess, I need to hack some JS or XUL file to get it working. Or should I submit my bug report to moz.org. Well here's my bug report, you browser fucking sucks and it's slow as shit you propeller-headed, panty waste lunix/OS X deviants.

  144. Fix the damn memory leak already! by fm6 · · Score: 2

    I like the Mozilla Windows email client enough to use it day-to-day, despite its many problems. Except that it still has those damn memory leaks! I like to leave it running for the new-mail-notify feature, but after a couple hours it gets totally slugish-thrashy and has to be restarted. You'd think this problem would get a higher priority!

    1. Re:Fix the damn memory leak already! by bunratty · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you tell me the bug number, I'll vote for it and consider nominating it to be fixed for Mozilla 1.2.

      --
      What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
  145. You have to be kidding. by SPYvSPY · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Mozilla mis-renders pages in OS X 10.1.5 on my Dual G4 all the time. I'd say about one out of seven pages loads improperly, not because the site isn't standards-compliant, but because Mozilla's rendering engine doesn't play nice. I'm talking about the white spaces that appear after you resize a window, only to be filled in with content when you scoll the window. Stupid, retarded crap like that.

    Also, everyone raves about the ability to kill popups. But they don't rave about all the links that just do nothing when you click on them because Mozilla isn't smart enough to follow popup links in the same window. Or what about all the links that open new windows, but then just hang indefinitely? I'd be asking for a whole lot more than goddamn arabic letters if I were a Mozilla user. It sucks so bad, I'm using IE again.

    And another thing: Mozilla has learned *nothing* since Netscape 4. What is with that clumsy profile manager? It still runs like a goddamn add-on that isn't properly integrated. And don't even get me started on the *IDIOTIC* layout of the preference panels in Mozilla, which are another unwelcome hold over from Netscape. It's actually amazingly depressing how crummy Mozilla turned out to be. You only think it's good because it's not made by Microsoft. Your idea of good is tainted by Microsoft's mediocrity.

    And what is with that childish splash screen? I can almost see where the geek used photoshop's finger tool to make the dragon's firebreath effect. Grow up. And what about the agonizingly long time Mozilla takes to start up? It's probably loading Chatzilla and the fucking email client that no one wants, needs or uses. Mozilla is a profound failure.

    1. Re:You have to be kidding. by Vulture_ · · Score: 2, Informative
      First things first: if I had mod points right now, I'd have modded you down as Troll. Twice.

      Since I don't have mod points, I'll just give you some counter-arguments.

      I'd say about one out of seven pages loads improperly, not because the site isn't standards-compliant, but because Mozilla's rendering engine doesn't play nice. I'm talking about the white spaces that appear after you resize a window, only to be filled in with content when you scoll the window. Stupid, retarded crap like that.
      Which version are you using? M1?
      Also, everyone raves about the ability to kill popups. But they don't rave about all the links that just do nothing when you click on them because Mozilla isn't smart enough to follow popup links in the same window.
      If you open popups in new windows the right way (that is, target="_blank"), the links work perfectly. If you use JavaScript, Mozilla really has no way of knowing what the hell to do with the links (since you could pop up a window and then run some other code, which assumes that the old page is still open, which it wouldn't be if it's been replaced!).
      Or what about all the links that open new windows, but then just hang indefinitely?
      More JavaScript trickery that doesn't work in Mozilla. If you use sites like that, you frankly deserve them not to work.
      What is with that clumsy profile manager? It still runs like a goddamn add-on that isn't properly integrated.
      Define "properly integrated".
      And don't even get me started on the *IDIOTIC* layout of the preference panels in Mozilla, which are another unwelcome hold over from Netscape.
      What exactly is wrong with them?
      You only think it's good because it's not made by Microsoft.
      No, I "only" think it's good because it works, and does so very well. There are many Free browsers available; if Mozilla were nearly as poor as you seem to think it is, I would use something else.
      And what is with that childish splash screen? I can almost see where the geek used photoshop's finger tool to make the dragon's firebreath effect. Grow up.
      How superficial. Grow up.
      And what about the agonizingly long time Mozilla takes to start up?
      I'm having a hard time believing its load time is even close to "agonizingly long" on a dual G4 machine. Perhaps something is amiss with your operating system? (Hint: OS X sucks. Use Linux. Everything works much better that way. I know, I've used both on the same machine.)
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    2. Re:You have to be kidding. by pinny20 · · Score: 1

      If you open popups in new windows the right way (that is, target="_blank"), the links work perfectly. If you use JavaScript, Mozilla really has no way of knowing what the hell to do with the links (since you could pop up a window and then run some other code, which assumes that the old page is still open, which it wouldn't be if it's been replaced!).

      That's if the page you're using is written in HTML4. If you're using XHTML then the use of target="_blank" is invalid. In which case you have to use JavaScript.

    3. Re:You have to be kidding. by Vulture_ · · Score: 1
      XHTML 1.0 Transitional has a "target" attribute for the "a" element. I see nothing in the XHTML 1.0 spec about this attribute, which means, AFAIK, that the definition of this attribute is the same as HTML 4.0. Therefore, it follows that you are, in fact, permitted to use it.

      Note that, as in HTML 4.0, XHTML 1.0's Strict DTD does not include the "target" attribute. The Transitional DTD is required for this feature.

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      The only way the typical /.er can pick up a chick is with a forklift. -- AC

  146. 1.1 final in 8 days?!?!?!?! by Jungle+guy · · Score: 0, Redundant
    The development rooadmap for Mozilla implies that the final version of the 1.1 branch should be out in july 31st. Will they make the deadline?

    I doubt. The release date for 1.1 beta was july 10, and it is 23rd already.

    Good for them they aren't students (or lawyers, ou journalists), and they can stretch their deadlines at will.

    1. Re:1.1 final in 8 days?!?!?!?! by bunratty · · Score: 1
      The development rooadmap for Mozilla implies that the final version of the 1.1 branch should be out in july 31st.
      It never ceases to amaze me how people misread the roadmap. No, the final version Mozilla 1.1 will not be available on July 31.

      The roadmap says that the tree will freeze for 1.1 on July 31. All that means is that checkins will require an extra approval step to avoid risky changes after that date.

      The tree will then branch on August 2. This means that developers can checkin changes to the trunk without approval, but checkins for 1.1 will still require approval.

      Ideally, the final version Mozilla 1.1 will be released on August 9. That means that August 9 is the earliest possible date you should expect it to be ready. It might take a week or two longer than that.

      --
      What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
  147. Mozilla RPM ? by dazdaz · · Score: 1

    Where can I find Redhat 7.3 RPM's for Mozilla 1.1b? I would of expected these to be provided like 1.0.

  148. OS X talkback build? by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    On Windows I try to always run Talkback builds so I can at least report crashes...

    But on OS X there is no option to download a talkback build. Does anyone know why that would be?

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:OS X talkback build? by sconest · · Score: 1

      Maybe Fullcircle Software doesn't have an OS X version of their talkback software?

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    2. Re:OS X talkback build? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      I forgot abot the notice saying it was fullcircle, I just assumed it was something home-developed. Oh well. Thanks!

      --
      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  149. Updated to work with 1.1beta? by Deven · · Score: 2

    You can get an open-source spellchecker at mozdev.org that works with some Mozilla releases but I'm not sure if they've updated it to work with 1.1beta.

    Um, why should it need updating to work with 1.1beta? I thought the whole point of the 1.0 release was to freeze the API so that they work across all 1.x versions! If the spellchecker works with 1.0, shouldn't it work with 1.1beta, out of the box? (If not, then what was the point of the API freeze?)

    --

    Deven

    "Simple things should be simple, and complex things should be possible." - Alan Kay

    1. Re:Updated to work with 1.1beta? by asa · · Score: 2

      It depends on if they were using public and frozen or private APIs.

      --Asa

  150. Ghostbusters Terminology? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I assume that the name Venkman is associated with the Venkman character in the movie, Ghostbusters.

    Wasn't there some kind of ugly ass monster in the movie that was controlled by this evil dude/dudette called "Zuul"?

    XUL = Zuul? Coincidence?

    1. Re:Ghostbusters Terminology? by sconest · · Score: 1

      iirc a conversation on #mozillazine, no, it's not a coincidence.

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    2. Re:Ghostbusters Terminology? by sconest · · Score: 1

      Some evidence: here, here and here

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  151. Re:Hmm. Source? by asa · · Score: 2

    patience. tarball coming soon. it's always a little b it later than the binaries.

    --Asa

  152. OT: Venkman's floating windows by DJK · · Score: 1
    WOW! I like the floating windows!

    Couldn't the (browser's) toolbars be similarily set up, so they could be rearrageable and floatable?
    Then all I'd need would be:
    1. 'text vs. picture vs. both' option on the buttons
    2. customize which buttons are shown / order of buttons
    3. button size (large vs. small)
  153. Stability under Win32? by dasunt · · Score: 2

    I've been running Mozilla 1.0 under Windows 98SE, and although the system is rather stable under IE 6 and Opera 5, Mozilla 1.0 tends to crash alot. This is on a system with 256 megs of memory, 1.13Ghz Athlon Processor, and a 40 gig primary drive.

    Other open source software (apache, the Gimp, OpenOffice) runs fine on the system, but Mozilla keeps crashing on 'simple' web pages, even when I'm browsing offline! Does anyone who use win32 and Moz 1.1Beta have some feedback on the stability?

    1. Re:Stability under Win32? by bunratty · · Score: 1
      I've been running the nightly builds on Windows 98SE since before Mozilla 1.0 and it crashes less than once per week for me. If crashes are bothering you, download the alpha and beta releases as soon as they become available and send in talkback reports. This will help get the crashes you experience fixed more quickly.

      If you don't already, try the installer builds and uninstall the previous version before installing a new version. This way of updating has been more stable for me than the zip builds.

      --
      What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
    2. Re:Stability under Win32? by double_h · · Score: 1

      I've used Mozilla extensively (several hours a night) under Windows 2000 -- including Moz 1.0 final, 1.1 alpha, and most recently the 1.1 nightly builds. I cannot recall Mozilla crashing EVER on that machine, not once. My machine is a P4 2ghz, 512MB DDR. I also used Moz 1.0 for a while on a Win98SE machine (P3 500mhz, 192MB) and don't recall any crashes there.

      The only Mozilla crashes I've witnessed within the past several months have been on Linux, and that was very definitely because the box didn't have enough RAM or a big enough swap partition -- once I bumped the RAM from 128MB to 256MB, it's been rock solid.

    3. Re:Stability under Win32? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Solution: Ditch Win98 and find a real OS

  154. It's not slashdot.org... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...it's FARK.COM!

  155. Re:I found the initial search field to be more ... by symbolic · · Score: 2

    than sufficient. It won't work in all cases, but I wanted to know if any other Mac users thought that the "Find in this page" dialog ought to be modeless...sure enough- there were at least two reports already. The search terms: "mac find". A little common sense here will go a long way toward helping the development team. I realize that this simplicity won't work in all cases, but it probably will work more than people realize.

  156. mod parent up!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that was the funniest thing i've read all day!!

  157. Mail and News issues by ShadowDrgn · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have some various problems with Mozilla, but for the most part I like it a lot better than IE. Unfortunately, the Mail and News part is either lacking basic functionality or is just plain buggy. Maybe these issues are already in bugzilla, or I'm just too stupid to figure out a simple feature.

    Mail and News passwords:
    I've never been able to log onto a news server with Mozilla. Supposedly it's supposed to ask you for a username/password when you create the news account, but what if it doesn't? There's no place in the account options to set one. With mail accounts, if you change the password on the account (by other means), Mozilla just chokes when you try and log on with the old one and gives you no option to provide the correct password. There's no "wrong password, please enter correct one" dialogue, it just doesn't do anything. The account options area has a spot for a username, but not one for a password. I guess I could delete the account from Mozilla and recreate it every time I change my password, but that's stupid. Outlook Express will prompt for the correct user/pass if you don't log on properly, is it too much to ask for Mozilla to do that?

    Am I missing something very simple to solve these issues? I'd really appreciate some help if so.

    1. Re:Mail and News issues by bunratty · · Score: 1

      You can probably get help on the IRC channels. Read the article on IRC at MozillaNews.org to get you started. Once you can get into the Mozilla newsgroups, you can get futher support there.

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  158. right mouse button by Fuzzums · · Score: 2

    I hope this still is read, but dies anybody know if it's possible to tweak the right-mouse-button-menu?
    I noticed that the options 'open in new tab' and 'open in new window' are switched, but I liked the 1.0 order (tab first) and I really want to undo the newer order.

    No, no, no, I don't want to downgrade to the 1.0 version ;)

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    1. Re:right mouse button by pkretek · · Score: 1

      I hope you still read this ;)

      Here we go:

      Shut down your Mozilla and go to your mozilla directory (the main one, not the users directory).
      Locate the file comm.jar in the chrome directory. Extract it with any .jar capable archiver (For Windows it's WinZip, WinACE,...).
      Go to the folder content/communicator/ and edit the file contentAreaContextOverlay.xul

      About line 48 the interesting part begins:

      <menuitem id="context-openlink"
      label="&openLinkCmd.label;"
      accesskey="&openLinkCmd.accesskey;"
      oncommand="gContextMenu.openLink();"/>
      <menuitem id="context-openlinkintab"
      label="&openLinkCmdInTab.label;"
      accesskey="&openLinkCmdInTab.accesskey;"
      oncommand="gContextMenu.openLinkInTab();"/&g t;

      simply reverse it to:

      <menuitem id="context-openlinkintab"
      label="&openLinkCmdInTab.label;"
      accesskey="&openLinkCmdInTab.accesskey;"
      oncommand="gContextMenu.openLinkInTab();"/&g t;
      <menuitem id="context-openlink"
      label="&openLinkCmd.label;"
      accesskey="&openLinkCmd.accesskey;"
      oncommand="gContextMenu.openLink();"/>

      put everything back to the comm.jar file and you are ready.

      Hope this helps,

      Paul

    2. Re:right mouse button by Fuzzums · · Score: 2

      Works like a.. baby. no. like a.. piece of cake. no. well IT WORKS!!!

      Thanks, Joost.

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  159. I tried gestures ... by wideangle · · Score: 2

    ... back on v1.0. Cool, but it made Mozilla crash a lot. Many talkbacks submitted.

    Gestures got uninstalled in under two hours, after which Moz never crashed again.

    Hope things work better in 1.1b ...

  160. +5 Karma Whore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i like cunt

  161. Progressive JPG rendering by cswiii · · Score: 2

    ....this is one thing I haven't seen mentioned, and yet it's there. This is a godsend for those of us still cursed with narrowband.

  162. Wow. What a refutation! by SPYvSPY · · Score: 2

    You really showed me! Here a few points to clarify:

    1. I'm using M1.

    2. The fact remains that Mozilla doesn't handle the situation. If it doesn't work, tell me why. Don't just sit there and try to force a square peg into a round hole. Basic rule of HCI.

    3. Properly integrated means that user profiles are not a kludgey modal dialogue box that appears at the start of each new session.

    4. The preference panes suck. Just take the "Advanced" preferences, for instance. Under "Advanced" are a bunch of sub-items: Scripts, Caches, Proxies, etc. First of all, you need to click on the expansion arrow just to see these (mildly lame). Now, explain to me why enabling Javascript is under "Scripts and Windows" when there is a box in the "Advanced" pane that is titled "Enable features that help interpret web pages" for enabling Java. Wouldn't you expect to find these items on the same pane? Sure, there's some idiotic reason that they're not together, but that doesn't change the fact that they should be. There's about 1000 pixels of unused space on the "Advanced" pane that could be used to roll up other items that (arbitrarily) appear in the sub-panes. And what is the point of having sub-panes, when the parent pane has options, too. Why not make the parent empty and put the options in the sub-panes? It's not as if the parent pane options affect the options in the sub-pane. It's just plain dumb and counter-intuitive, which is what "function over form" people like you never understand. Mainly because your sole sense of indentity is based on the fact that you are able to interpret dumb counter-intuitive crap like the hierarchy of preference panes in Mozilla. Yay for you.

    5. It is slow on OS X on a dual g4. It's slow on a P4 is W2k, too. It's slow to start up. And that splashscreen is embarassingly lame. Again, something you proudly identify yourself with. You probably wear Tevas and free convention t-shirts, too, so what's the point of me even bothering.

  163. Re:Wow. What a refutation! by Vulture_ · · Score: 1

    I was about to reply and give you another refutation, but after reading your smartass remark about the splash screen on point 5, I've arrived at the conclusion that doing so is futile. Maybe when you grow up I'll be able to tolerate you.

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