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Chip a Playstation, Go to Jail

perogiex writes "A man in Ottawa was convicted of selling and installing mod chips out of his computer store. Sony is overjoyed, man is less than thrilled. This is the first time such a case was tried in Canada." From the article: Garby said he didn't know he was committing a crime and would have never gotten involved in selling mod chips if he had known the law. Update: 07/24 21:53 GMT by M : Headline corrected; it's clearly mod chips for the original Playstation, not the Playstation 2.

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  1. Selling 413 Pirated Games? by dhaberx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This guy was selling a line of 413 pirated games and didn't know what he was doing was illegal? It sounds like he deserves what he got.

    1. Re:Selling 413 Pirated Games? by Callamon · · Score: 5, Funny
      I can believe that he really didn't know it was illegal, just looking at the name of the store:
      Garby sold the chips from his computer store, Kustum Komputers
  2. Kudos to him! by Proaxiom · · Score: 5, Funny
    He grossed $30,000 and was fined $17,000?

    Looks like I'll be picking up a new hobby...

  3. Pirated Games by LaNMaN2000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article states that he was selling pirated games alongside the mod chips. Maybe the charge of copyright infringement related to the illegal video games being sold (as Sony did not design the mod chips, it is unclear of whose copyright he would be violating).

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  4. Chips or piracy by kevin42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It sounds like he was also selling pirated games. I wonder if they would ever have cracked down on him if all he had done was sell and install mod chips. The article seems to downplay the fact that he was selling pirated games as well.

    Even though I think selling mod chips shouldn't be illegal, I don't have sympathy for people who are selling pirated software!

    1. Re:Chips or piracy by jandrese · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do you also like bread? That doesn't even compare. Now buying pirate games is theft of service, but installing a mod chip so you can back up your games (especially important if you have a dog/small children in the house). And what about those people who import games from Japan and other countries? That may not be looked kindly upon by Sony, but it certainly isn't theft of service (Sony/the game publisher still get the money they deserve).

      There seems to be a vocal contingent on Slashdot that assume that anybody using DeCSS, Napster, Mod Chips, etc... must be pirates and should be thrown in jail. Even if there are legitimate uses for a technology the potental for abuse exists and therefore everyone who uses it is therefore guilty.

      I've used DeCSS dozens of times (everytime I watch a DVD I bought legally in fact) without infringing on copyright once. Does this mean I should go to jail? I've played import games (at conventions, but still...). Those machines were modded. Should I go to jail? I've backed up my games (although I don't actually have a mod chip yet, I'll install it if one of my originals is destroyed). Am I evil? Do I deserve to be thrown in jail for using technologies that can also be used to pirate?

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  5. Today, Sony Is: by sulli · · Score: 4, Funny

    [ ] Bad
    [ ] Good
    [ ] CowboyNeal

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  6. It wasnt just mod chips.. by mrbill · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you read the article, he was also selling a line of 417 different *pirated games*.

    If he didnt know *that* was illegal, he's full of it.

  7. Re:Ignorance is no excuse. by Telastyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, but putting a chip in a PS2 to play Japanese games isn't morally questionable, but just as illegal.

  8. Re:Yea right he didnt know by Peyna · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ignorance is not a permissible defense anyway. Go ahead, try convincing the police officer you didn't know it was 45 on the road. Even if you turn onto the road after the sign and had no way of knowing if you had never driven on the road before, the law still applies.

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  9. Moronic spelling.. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny

    (emphasis mine)
    Garby sold the chips from his computer store, Kustum Komputers

    That in itself should get him life in prison with no chance of parole.

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    1. Re:Moronic spelling.. by motardo · · Score: 5, Funny

      mmmm...forbidden donut

  10. DMCA by ultima · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since the mod chips circumvent copy protection, I can see how they are made illegal under the DMCA in the US. Is there a Canadian version to this I am not aware of?

    1. Re:DMCA by Proaxiom · · Score: 4, Informative

      No. Although the Canadian government has been investigating the possibility of a DMCA equivalent.

  11. wait a second... by denshi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Does anyone know where to get the briefs for this case? One line in the article bothered me:
    He was charged after an RCMP investigation found he was selling a line of 413 pirated video games and charging $30 to install "mod chips" in Sony PlayStation video game consoles.
    ....and then the rest of the article is grandstanding about mod chips from various, easily bribed parties. From first glance, this looks like they had a cut-and-dried case of copyright infringement because he was selling copied games (thus copying & deriving profit from such), but some groups are trying to cast this case into a ruling on mod chip legality -- which would be a much harder case to prosecute. Has anyone seen this case in detail?
  12. Mod chips by unformed · · Score: 4, Informative

    allow playing games that have been copied to CDR.

    It's legitimate use is that it allows playign games from Japan.

    FYI, the PS and PS2 also have region encoding similar to DVDs. Japanese games can't be played on American consoles, and (I believe) vice-versa. The mod chip prevents the system from recognizing that its not a legitimate disc (by replying to all queries as 'yes, this is legal')

    Just as DeCSS is primarily used for watching other-regon dvds, but has a side effect of getting unencrypted content, the mod chip allows playing other-region games, and has a side effect of allowing games on CDR also.

    Chances are that's why he got arrested. In the US, he could probably (also?) be arrested under the DMCA.

    I'm not taking any sides, just stating facts...

    1. Re:Mod chips by notNeilCasey · · Score: 5, Insightful
      It's cases like these that nudge public opinion in favor of DMCA-style bans on circumvention devices. This guy selling loads of pirated games and then the mod chips that allow people to play them is criminal activity that all of us anti-DMCA pro fair use people should recognize and identify as such. When people see headlines about "mod chips + piracy," they will often assume "mod chips = piracy," which will make them very susceptible to the rhetoric of the companies and individuals who benefit financially from that erroneous belief.

      If we are going to be vocal on the unfairness of legal roadblocks to fair use in the cases dealing with DeCSS and proposed DRM legislation, we have a responsibility to be equivalently vocal in cases where technologies we advocate and claim rights to are being used illegally. If we want DeCSS to be legal despite its "side effect" of decrypting DVDs, we have to denounce those who exploit that side effect for illegal personal gain.

      If we want mod chips to be a legal and accepted use of our own hardware for playing legally purchased Japanese games or burned backups of others we own, we have to speak against pirates who want to make money using mod chips and CD/DVD copying technology illegally.

      Neil
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  13. No DMCA in Canada. by MarvinMouse · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think he was likely fined mostly for the sales of the pirated games. I don't believe we have an equivalent to the DMCA in Canada, and therefore the mod chip is perfectly allowable to be sold in Canada. He got caught for software piracy, not for breaking DRM.

    But, I am not absolutely sure on this. Could a Canadian Lawyer verify this for me? Also, do you know if he could get caught on that Mod chip for a different reason?

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  14. Re:depressing by Xaoswolf · · Score: 5, Insightful
    he was selling a line of 413 pirated video games

    He wasn't just selling mod chips, he was also selling pirated games. Not sure if they would have just busted him for the mod chips or not though.

  15. Hmmm by PMadavi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Well, I can see him getting arrested for selling pirated software, that makes sense. What's interesting is that he got charged for the mod-chip, not the games. Should selling something that allows you to do illegal things be illegal? I mean, we sell guns and pipes. All kinds of things. Should you buy those things doesn't mean you're going to kill or do drugs, right?

    Here's a scenario. You bought a rad new PS2 game, you want to make sure that if it gets scratched, eaten, etc. . . you can still play your game, so you burn a copy, and use the mod chip to play the game. You paid for the game once, right? What's wrong with that.

    If you ask me, aside from the selling pirated games, this guy had a case.

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  16. Re:uh by tonywong · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sheesh, did you read the article?

    He was caught modding the machines and selling pirated software out of his store. I don't think you can get busted for modding unless they can prove the intent was for pirating and not backup. Well, having and selling pirated software with your mods counts as copyright infringement.

    It's like saying he had a lockpit set and was caught using it to steal goods from cars. Guess what? It's not the possession of the lockpit set that got him busted.

  17. Slashdot is trolling you again. by pb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He was convicted of selling 413 pirated video games and Playstation mod-chips.
    How do I know this? Well, first, I read the article; second, I know that there aren't 413 GAMES available for the Playstation 2!

    Also, the PS/2 is a computer from IBM, and does not require mod chips to play pirated games. Sony doesn't call their Playstation 2 the PS/2, perhaps because they don't want to get sued. Does slashdot want to get sued? Well, it'd be nice to have some penalties for irresponsible journalism...
    Finally, considering the facts of the case, it is disingenuous for the writers of this article to call it a conviction for selling mod-chips, since that wasn't all it was.

    In conclusion, all you journalists are lazy, illiterate, and incompetent. If you don't agree with me, prove me wrong by writing something accurate, intelligent, or interesting.

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  18. Re:Chips or piracy (what a poor example) by Sleepy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >>selling mod chips shouldn't be illegal?!?!
    >Do you also have a hacked cable box? It is theft of service.

    You miss the point so badly:

    If you OWN something, it's YOURS. Not only do you NOT have the right to take away people's freedom, but you also have no right to even KNOW what people do with their property.

    I'll give you a quick lesson in right & wrong:

    RIGHT: You decide to paint your car YOU OWN, a color other than what it was manufactured.

    WRONG: You LEASE (or steal) a car, and repaint it without the owner's permission.

  19. Re:uh by AJWM · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The article says "two counts of copyright infringement", which is pretty self-explanatory given the "413 pirated video games".

    Of more concern -- and perhaps why you're scratching your head -- is the "four counts of selling unauthorized computer equipment". What the hell does that mean?

    Who "authorizes" computer equipment? Do the charges stem from something like violating FCC-equivalent (DOC? CRTC?) RF regulations, or something equivalent to "possesion of burglary tools", or something more ominous, considering the free speech aspects of computers?

    Anyone know? ("Know", not speculate.)

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  20. Then why do we have lawyers? by MongooseCN · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If everyone is expected to know all the laws and what they mean, then why are there so many lawyers? Our law systems are so confusing and complex that we have to hire special people to interpret and find laws that will help defend us and prosecute others. So it's not suprising that someone might not know there's a new law saying something is illegal.

  21. Re:Chips or piracy (what a poor example) by AJWM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you OWN something, it's YOURS. Not only do you NOT have the right to take away people's freedom, but you also have no right to even KNOW what people do with their property.

    Not that I disagree with your point at all, indeed I heartily agree. But try telling that to the BATF if, for example, you make a minor mechanical modification to a legally owned semi-automatic rifle that converts it to fully-automatic (ie a machine gun), or cut the barrel of your legally owned shotgun down to less than 18 inches.

    If you thought DMCA enforcement was tough...

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  22. Re:A basic tenet of law by sylvester · · Score: 5, Informative

    It sounds rather DMCA-like. I wonder if Parliament passed something DMCA-like with almost no fanfare.

    No. Heritage Canada and Industry Canada have been collaborating in a very significant consultation process accross Canada. I attended their Ottawa consultation meeting, which had surprisingly strong "citizen" representation. The big american content producers were given their say, but not given a lot of credibility. Michael Geist, a U of Ottawa lawyer , was particularly good with not letting things by.

    Canada DMCA opponents mailing list.
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    Thorough background brought to you by Matthew Skala, the chap that broke (IIRC) the Cyber-Patrol encryption and, again IIRC, was pursued by Mattel for DMCA violations, despite being a Canadian.

  23. The CBC doesn't say. by hearingaid · · Score: 5, Informative
    However, the phrasing makes me think it was probably s. 342.1 of the Criminal Code. I reproduce the section in full below.

    342.1(1) Unauthorized use of computer
    342.1 (1) Every one who, fraudulently and without colour of right,
    (a) obtains, directly or indirectly, any computer service,
    (b) by means of an electro-magnetic, acoustic, mechanical or other device, intercepts or causes to be intercepted, directly or indirectly, any function of a computer system, or
    (c) uses or causes to be used, directly or indirectly, a computer system with intent to commit an offence under paragraph (a) or (b) or an offence under section 430 in relation to data or a computer system is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years, or is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
    342.1(2) Definitions
    (2) In this section,
    computer program means data representing instructions or statements that, when executed in a computer system, causes the computer system to perform a function;
    computer service includes data processing and the storage or retrieval of data;
    computer system means a device that, or a group of interconnected or related devices one or more of which,
    (a) contains computer programs or other data, and
    (b) pursuant to computer programs,
    (i) performs logic and control, and
    (ii) may perform any other function;
    data means representations of information or of concepts that are being prepared or have been prepared in a form suitable for use in a computer system;
    electro-magnetic, acoustic, mechanical or other device means any device or apparatus that is used or is capable of being used to intercept any function of a computer system, but does not include a hearing aid used to correct subnormal hearing of the user to not better than normalhearing;
    function includes logic, control, arithmetic, deletion, storage and retrieval and communication or telecommunication to, from or within a computer system;
    intercept includes listen to or record a function of a computer system, or acquire the substance, meaning or purport thereof.
    R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 45.

    He was also convicted of straightforward, old-style piracy; he was apparently selling pirated games on CDRs.

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  24. Re:Umm, there's more than just the chips... by LittleGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Agreed. The subject title is deceptive.

    It's like saying Timothy McVeigh was given the death penalty for failing to return his rental truck in time... and other associated offienses.

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  25. Re:mmmm, krispy kreme... by Idarubicin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, since this story is Canadian, the One True Doughnut would have to be from Tim Horton's.

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  26. Implications by brad3378 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So what's the difference between modding a PS2 and modding a car?

    If I pulled the engine from my Ford Ranger and replaced it with a Chevy 350, aren't I likewise depriving Ford Motor Company of future engine part sales? This is setting a bad precident.

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    1. Re:Implications by mpe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, I guess the problem is that Sony is selling the colsole very cheap, making almost nothing from hardware sales.

      In a truely free market capitalist society that would be entirely Sony's problem. Why should customers (including retailers) be obliged to ensure that Sony's business model works?

      For your analogy to be more accurate you would have to say that when you buy a Ford Ranger the company (Ford) doesn't make very much, if anything. Instead, they get their money from selling gas. So, if you (and about half of Ford's other customers) were to mod your Ford Ranger and install a nuclear reactor in it, I'm sure there would be similar reactions.

      In which case people would be telling Ford that they were being foolish not to get into the nuclear fuel business, make reactor driven cars as a standard option and supply their own mod kits.
      The thing is when it comes to computers people think the rules of basic economics should be tossed out of the window. With laws created to enforce a corporate welfare model.

  27. Are Nestle Mod'd Chocolate Chips legal? by brer_rabbit · · Score: 5, Funny
    Is it not illegal to sell or own the chips, however it is illegal to sell the PS/2 with one pre-installed, as that comes under the heading of selling Sony's product with unauthorized modifications.

    Just out of curiousity, what is the distinction between selling mod'd PS/2 systems and selling, say, mod'd Nestle Chocolate Chips? If I combine Nestle Chocolate Chips with flour, sugar, butter etc to make cookies is Nestle going to come after me? Or is it ok because I'm selling them as cookies and not Nestle Chocolate Chips(tm)?

    PS/2. Nestle. They're both just chips.

  28. Re:Chips or piracy (what a poor example) by AJWM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Playstations are not [regulated]

    Oh, but indeed they are. The FCC has a whole set of regulations covering consumer electronic devices and their possible RF emissions. You better believe that Sony has to file some serious paperwork with the FCC to get permission to sell the things. (Also with Underwriters Labs and the CSA regarding shock and fire hazards, but that's more of an insurance thing.)

    Although I still believe you should be allowed to do whatever the hell you want to with your own property, so long as it doesn't actually (vs hypothetically) endanger others or trample on their rights.

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  29. Two Words: Legal Fees by Thag · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It cost me $400 just to get a lawyer to make a phone call to the cops and plea bargain away a traffic ticket (a nasty one that would have gotten my driver's license revoked, so it was worth it).

    Unless he had a public defender, I'd say he ate up the rest of that money just on legal fees.

    Although, I am not a Canadian, so maybe their legal system works differently.

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  30. The FSF makes no such claim by dmoen · · Score: 4, Insightful
    >> How does putting an interop chip in your PS1, writing a program on your PC, compiling it with GCC, burning it to a CD, and putting it in the PS1's drive violate Sony's copyright?

    > Your program is linking against Sony's code (the PS1's firmware). According to the FSF, this requires Sony's permission - at least, they say linking against other code requires that code's author's permission. (That's how the GPL bans non-GPL code calling GPLed libraries, unlike the LGPL...)

    That's not right. The FSF says that distributing a combined work consisting of copyrighted code plus your code requires the permission of the copyright owner.
    But there is no distribution of a combined work when you run your own software on a modded PS1.

    Anyway, we already know that the copyright violation in this case was selling pirated games.

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