Black Boxes to Track Driving Habits?

Nofsck Ingcloo writes "Nando Times is reporting on a new model of black boxes to track teens' driving habits. 'This is like having a parent sitting next to him second by second.... The kids don't like it, but the parents love it.... Originally developed... for ambulances and fire trucks to reduce crashes, the black box is a stripped-down version of that model.' So, how long before the insurance companies persuade the states to mandate these devices in every car? Or raise our rates hugely and then give a little of it back if we put in the box?"

Another submitter sent in a related submission about the collision data recorders in many late-model cars - which serve a similar purpose as the black boxes described above, but generally only record the last five seconds before an accident.

geemon writes "With the recent stories of rental car companies using GPS to track how and where their patrons are using their vehicles, this information about autos from 1996 and newer having an airplane-like accident "black box" capability was a complete surprise. Tucked under the drivers seat of most GM vehicles, the "black box" can store a variety of info such as vehicle and engine speed, braking, and seat belt usage. Info from an accident reconstruction service that uses this data can be found here. Called "event data recorders", these devices were, "...Originally designed to improve air bag performance based on the severity of the collision, the event data recorder can tell traffic accident investigators about the car's speed; engine RPMs; how far the accelerator pedal was pressed; if the brakes were applied; whether the drivers seatbelt was buckled and what warning lights were on - all from five seconds before impact..." It seems that GM and perhaps Ford have been using this for some time. Here is one company that makes the Windows based retrieval hardware/software combo for $2500. Imagine the uses of this data that law enforcement, your insurance company, and lawyers may have after your next little mishap."

Comments

Dude...

[eyepeepackets]

...you're getting a bell!

not quite

[faeryman]

Larry Selditz will begin selling a teenager's worst nightmare in November - a small black box placed in a car that allows parents to track exactly how their child is driving on the highways.

No. A teenager's worst nightmare would be a little black box that reports their "parking" *winkwink* habits, not driving.

How to remove it?

[MongooseCN]

After it's installed how hard is it to take out and leave somewhere?

Johnny pulls in the drive way after coming from a techno drug laden rave fest...

"Johnny, as your parents we're starting to become concerned about you..."

"W..What do you mean?"

"Well according to our black box, you've been spending 7 hours a night at the movies."

"Oh, uh.. right. Ya, uh.. I admit it, I'm a movie junkie."

They've already had a trial of these

[dfenstrate]

And the version included a cabin sound recorder to capture the last few seconds of activity before impact.

Usually people said, "Oh shit!" some, occasionally you'd hear snoring, but they did find a disturbing trend.

On large 4x4's in the deep south, the last thing said was "Ya'll hold my beer and watch this."

Re:No, *Insurance* Owns Your Car

[Myriad]

I'm still having a hard time figuring out how the last 5 seconds of data is going to be of any use (ok, maybe actuarial data) to the insurance company above and beyond helping figure out the cause of the crash.

Something like this:
Insurance Co: So Mr. Andersen, in the accident report it says you were going 55mph at the time of the accident.
You: yes, that's correct.
Insurance Co: Really? That's very interesting! You see, according to this little black box your car was doing 70mph.
You: uhhhhh
Insurance Co: You should be careful doing that, your car could race up behind you and hit you in the ass.