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235,000 Software Engineers Can't Be Wrong, Right?

Posted by ryuzaki0 on from the well-maybe-they-can-be-wrong dept.

jgeelan writes "The Boston Globe has carried a report on how 235,000 engineers and computer scientistsl are calling on Congress to study the impact of the country's H1-B visa program, the recession, and the outsourcing of jobs overseas on the unemployment rate of engineers and other information technology professionals. It's an issue that's bubbling on discussion sites all over America too, though in one case developers (Java developers in this instance) seem completely unable to agree on whether H1-B is really a contributing factor or not."

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  1. What a terrible choice to have to make. by captain_craptacular · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    Feed your own?

    Or deny another the opportunity to better their life by a huge order of magnitude?

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    They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security
  2. That's shameful by sllort · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    So now that the economy sucks, and we have terrorism to cover our tracks, we're going to make a huge petition to throw a bunch of foreigners out of the country?

    Mask it any way you want, but racism sucks.

  3. know what the answer is - FORM A FUCKING UNION by EnderWiggnz · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    management has no interest in paying a respectible wage. they are interested in pay someone the lowest wage they can.

    they dont care about you, they dont care about your family. they care about their own pocket. thats it.

    the H1-B's are cheaper than you are. thats it. nothing about american spirit - they are taking food off of your table.

    we need to band together. we've needed it for a while.

    union. now.

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    ... hi bingo ...
  4. BENEFITS OF CITIZENSHIP BELONG TO US, NOT H1B by CascaLonginus101 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    we own this country, it is ours, and all the benefits of ownership/citizenship should go to us citizens, and not foreigners.

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  5. wrong by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    ha!

    You know, if they got rid of H1B visas, the price of labour would go up. do you think *your* government would look kindly on simple wage-slaves demanding a restriction on supply, while the price of their labour went through the roof????

    I suppose, all you Capitalists, who would would give their best McCarthy knee-jerk to: "FORM A COMPUTER PROFESSIONALS UNION AND DEMAND BETTER TREATMENT" on the other hand are crying for a Gummint restriction on supply in the fluid labour market...

    Its amazing.

    P-L-U-T-O-C-R-A-C-Y

  6. US IT workers are simply paid way too much by DABANSHEE · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Especially once exchange rates are taken into account

    It's that simple, imagine, people getting paid anywhere between US$50,000 & millions to buggerise arround on computers half the day & gossip the other half of the day.

    I wonder what percentage of that input actually produces anything of substance. I'd say less than 5%

    Lets face it the average Mexican fruitpicker in California is more productive than the average Californian IT worker.

    Really I don't see any justification for the average IT worker in the US earning more than double the US minimum wage. Even then IMAO they are only getting that extra over the minimum wage, as compo for wasting their time for studying such as unproductive stuff at college for 4 years, or whatever.

    Maybe its about time they realised that the .com & Y2K scams have come their course & the boom days are over.

    Or they could simply deflate the inflated US$, which more than anything else is killing US competitiveness.

    No wonder GM is planning to sell Holden Utes ('ute' is short for utility) as El Caminos & Holden Monaros as Pontiac GTOs in the USA. Here's a Monaro ad video