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235,000 Software Engineers Can't Be Wrong, Right?
jgeelan writes "The Boston Globe has carried a report on how 235,000 engineers and computer scientistsl are calling on Congress to study the impact of the country's H1-B visa program, the recession, and the outsourcing of jobs overseas on the unemployment rate of engineers and other information technology professionals.
It's an issue that's bubbling on discussion sites all over America too, though in one case developers (Java developers in this instance) seem completely unable to agree on whether H1-B is really a contributing factor or not."
Managers in America expect strict obedience and low pay rate, something alot of Americans aren't willing to give because its not in our culture.
Corporations import foreign labor and pay nothing for it, and the foreigner works just so he can be in America.
The pay rate for actual Americans can be lowered as a result, a pay rate so low that you can barely afford a refuge tent of your own. While the stockholders make millions.
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Finaly this issue is being talked about. I have been out of work for over a year because I cannot find a single job. In part this problem has been caused by H1B's taking the jobs that I am going for, no this is not speculation, I have witnessed it several times. Maybe in time I will have better luck, but first this problem needs to be taken care of.
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Three Reasons for H1B:
1) The hottest theme in technology is "replaceable engineers". That is, you lose someone, you can pick up where they left off in a couple days. To do this, you need a big pool of applicants.
2) Hold down American wage earners. Don't read me the text of the bill--it's bullshit. H1B holds salary and demand down for all technology workers in America, that's just a fact.
3) Brain Drain. Rather than have these people work in their own country, and possibly come up with a novel or inventive idea before the USA, god forbid start a company making something cool, bring them over here and "own" their work.
Don't tell me about improvements to the economy. I would gladly let a lot of people into America--on one condition: You can't cherry pick. You get cops, doctors, pilots, politicians, bankers, hookers, engineers. THAT would be incredible for the economy, and be fair across the board.
The most annoying thing about H1B is the proof it provides as to exactly how corrupt America is.
My brother was one of the last workers at a big-name Aeospace facility that was being shut down. This company was a huge proponent of H1B--"We can't get enough engineers! Look at all the jobs we have unfilled on the website!".
They had over 500 positions open for a year and a half while they lobbied for H1B, and they never interviewed or hired a single person; in fact they were laying off. It's all a scam.
Thanks for asking.
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Again, you are completely, totally, and UTTERLY FULL OF SHIT. In 2000, the INS discovered that, on average, H1B's are paid 13k less per year (around 53k) than American workers. So, if you're an H1B indentured servant, you're hardly making a higher wage. Furthermore, there was some guy who filed an H1B application (for shits and giggles) asking the government to approve a bunch of imported coders with a per-hour rate LESS than minimum wage. It was rubber stamped and sailed right through. You'd be naive to think that corporations aren't taking advantage of this to bolster their bottom line.