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Java Apache Admin Tool?

Posted by Cliff on from the thoughts-comments-and-random-opinions dept.

cant_get_a_good_nick asks: "I was trolling Sourceforge, and found NetLooney. Since there seemed to be interest in a quality Apache admin tool, I was wondering if anybody here had used it and can comment on it. It was commercial at one time, now iit's GPL'ed."

26 comments

  1. fp LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    AOL 4 life FP lol!!!!

  2. java based tool by m0rph3us0 · · Score: 1

    It looks pretty cool, and seems to work on my debian system. Doesn't look like anyone else has used it tho.

  3. More Config by droyad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The web page mentions that you may have to tweek the .cfg file to your apache server. Is it just me or does this just seem wrong.

    You have a "Serious" GUI config tool that configures something as complex as apache. Now you have to dive into the config file to change some settings so it works??

    Shouldn't this kind of config be GUI as well. Even though i don't particularly like windows, I don't think any windows based apps require the editing of a text file before you can run the program??

    Droyad

    1. Re:More Config by pcbob · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You need to edit NetLoonies cfg file, not apaches!

    2. Re:More Config by 'The+'.$L3mm1ng · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Right, and this is exactly what's wrong here. Why edit the configuration file of a GUI configuration utility? If the author thinks he can write a good configuration utility for Apache, why not just add a few menu entries to configure the configuration program as well?

    3. Re:More Config by E1v!$ · · Score: 1

      You have a point you Bastard,

      Now I'm going to have to rewrite some apps!

    4. Re:More Config by pcbob · · Score: 1

      I agree with that (was too lazy to type it :), I just wanted to correct parent post that it's not as severe as having to adjust httpd.conf by hand so that netloonie could take over from there...

    5. Re:More Config by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Droyad said:
      "I don't think any windows based apps require the editing of a text file before you can run the program??"

      No, it edits the registry, the Config.sys, the IO.SYS, the Autoexec.bat, the Windows DLLs, EXE's, and reconfigures your user settings for you, automatically, in the worst settings possible.

      I think I would rather edit the CFG files myself, thank you Citizen Gates!

  4. FlashFXP is a Trojan, calls home, roots box. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    FLASH FXPNot only does this closed source call-home program get huge amounts of attention making all of us wonder if "Charles DeWeese the information thief" is 1) selling your information to marketeers, 2) pretending he can increase profits by threatening, as reported in some cases, paying customers with BSA actions and lawsuits or 3) trojaning your system for other nefarious activities the nature of which you will never be aware because he provides neither source or debugging symbols, and the binary is stripped. One thing is for sure. Be it here on BetaNews, or on Slashdot, or on download.com.com, there is more than a few people calling into question why FlashFXP does what it does, and what is it doing. I would recommend the use of WinPCAP, WinDUMP, and ethereal, along with the free for personal use application firewall, Kerio Personal Firewall (software with nothing to hide, such as KPF, is often free for personal use, and others, like FreeBSD, OpenBSD, OpenSSL (a technology probably stolen by DeWeese and used illegally in FFXP) and Linux/GNU to name a few. With scary legislation in the US empowering copyright holders to DDOS your P2P networks, "root" your boxes in order to delete copyrighted content, and to make circumventing the mechanism by which an MP3 prevents the playing of an MP3 without a digital signature a felony, you can not trust software which calls home in an undocumented, undesirable way. This is the inroad by which these technology fascists will infect your computer with government sanctioned Trojaning devices. FlashFXP, when purchased legitimately, forces your to divulge HUGE amounts of information about yourself. You cant use cash and anonymously buy "shrink." Not only did I buy FFXP, but I excercised my right to fair use on more than one machine, the closed source binary was never run concurrently on more than one CPU at a time, yet my key got blacklisted. I have always been fond of OpenSource, but this and the EULAs for Windows Media Player, which also does various call home undocumented behavior, make not using OpenSource suicidal if you want a life where the government doesn't control and monitor your every keypress. Best of luck in the brave new world, if we continue to support fascists such as Charles DeWeese in his never-ending pursuit to force you to be tithed for non-Novel software which is built upon the stolen intellectual property of others, and prioritized. This is by no means a call for legislated digital communism, but it certainly calls into question the value of something that is not transferable, the seller has not liability of the actions of, the right to fair use is forfeit, and they law claims they copyright holder can root your computer in order to enforce copyright. Software like this I should be paid to use! Not pay for it! Be careful. He has stolen from the public domain technology to implement this secure technology, SSL, then he uses it to hide from you the true nature of his communications with home-base, as he calls home and Jon.Ashkrofts your information. I'm glad I use SmartFTP and NCFTP and run KPF as a start in the line of defense against a Orwellian cabal of software and I.P.

  5. Why do they choose self-defeating names? by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 2


    Looks like another excellent open source product with a looney name.

    Dictionary: Loon-y or loon-ey also lun-y Informal.adj. loon-i-er, loon-i-est. 1. Extremely foolish or silly. 2. Crazy; insane.n.pl. loon-ies also loon-eys. A foolish or crazy person.[Shortening and alteration (probably influenced by LOON1) of LUNATIC.]--loon'i-ly adv. --loon'i-ness n.

    Thesaurus: loon-y (loone). A person whose beliefs and actions are eccentric: crank, crackpot, cuckoo, flake, fruitcake (informal), kook (slang), loony, nut (slang), nut case (slang), nutter (British) (slang), oddball, queer fish, screwball (slang), weirdie (informal), weirdo (informal).

    Excerpted from American Heritage Talking Dictionary
    Copyright © 1997 The Learning Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

    1. Re:Why do they choose self-defeating names? by dimator · · Score: 2

      Because, my friend, hackers don't know shit about marketing (and choosing a name for your project is a form of marketing). We should be thankful that it's not named "JApacheConfig" or some shit. I'm bored to tears of Ksomething, Gsomething, or Jsomething.

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      python -c "x='python -c %sx=%s; print x%%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))%s'; print x%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))"
    2. Re:Why do they choose self-defeating names? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a loony is also a $1 canadian coin. let's blame the canadians.

    3. Re:Why do they choose self-defeating names? by rgraham · · Score: 1

      In the case of an open-source project like this, good naming has nothing to do with marketing. I'm tired JThis and JThat too, but would JApacheConfig not describe exactly what the project is hoping to accomplish? Yes, it would. It's no different than using good variable names (i.e. the name describes what the variable represents) when programming.

  6. Lurking not trolling, right? by bastard42 · · Score: 1

    I mean you didn't hide under bridges and attack this project, right? You didn't create this project through goading the creator(s), eh? If you were trollin' why post to slashdot? (mmm.... better trolls.)

    I'm gettin' confused now. You can't troll sourceforge like slashdot.

    Ohh, you mean like fishing.

    Chr*st, sometimes overloaded statements mean nothing to me.

    1. Re:Lurking not trolling, right? by LizardKing · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ohh, you mean like fishing.

      Mmm, and I guess he really meant 'trawling'.

  7. Swing? by dimator · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Is anyone else sick and tired of that clunky Swing theme? (is it called Metal?) Can you even change Swing themes?

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    python -c "x='python -c %sx=%s; print x%%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))%s'; print x%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))"
    1. Re:Swing? by LizardKing · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Can you even change Swing themes?

      Yup, the Metal theme isn't to everyone's taste. You can also select native Look and Feel, which I believe is the default on Windows. On Unix the native l&f mimics Motif, albeit badly. The MacOS l&f used to ship with the betas of Swing, but Apple pressured Sun into dropping it - but for a while I could fool people into thinking I was running a Mac app on my Unix box.

      A few people have attempted to create new l&f packages, most notably a NeXTSTEP one. But the major amount of work involved in producing a full l&f means few (if any) have been completed. At least that was the state of things last time I looked aroud for one.

    2. Re:Swing? by harmonica · · Score: 2

      There are some LAFs available. Personally, I like the Metal theme. Although the Windows LAF isn't perfect, I like it best.

  8. Just a sec. by AnalogBoy · · Score: 1, Troll

    It's java. *SCREAM*

    Thats better. I feel better now.

    AnalogBoy,
    Prejudiced against Java since '99, continuing till this day. It's expensive system processing wise.

    1. Re:Just a sec. by MockTurtleneck · · Score: 1

      Unless you type in characters per millisecond range, you waste plenty of cycles yourself!

    2. Re:Just a sec. by AnalogBoy · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but if i just think of starting the java executable, the load average on my servers jumps 2 whole points in anticipation.

    3. Re:Just a sec. by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Java is a geat language it is the jres that can be slow. You should try the IBM jre it is great.

      --
      See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
    4. Re:Just a sec. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then don't you be starting up jre's all the time.

      A tomcat process, for example, isn't all that heavyweight, although it takes a while to start up. I might should make a comparison between a Tomcat-powered site, a PHP-backed one, and a mod_perl one on memory usage, though.

  9. Please say "proprietary", by sydb · · Score: 3, Informative

    not "commercial", as GPL software can be commercial too.

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    Yours Sincerely, Michael.
  10. Big Java Guy seeks Small Com to be Object of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey - sourceforge has message boards/a., right?

  11. ApacheConf? by PONA-Boy · · Score: 1

    I know, I know...it is ONLY a Windows application AND is shareware but it looks like another viable alternative...

    Personally, I am very happy to avoid using a Java utility...

    Check it here

    -PONA-

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    +that's funny...I don't FEEL tardy.+