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Macworld Expo May Return to Boston
Anonymous Being of Power writes "According to a New York Post Article, Macworld New York may be held once again in Boston due to rising costs and lower attendance."
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If Apple doesn't get something done about the processor performance/speed in the near future they may as well move their next expo to Sioux Falls for all the interest it's going to generate.
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I understood that the numbers since going to NYC had been rising...In fact, I'm sure that there were some web sites touting the fact that this years numbers had surpassed last years.
Anyway, Boston is a horrible city for this, and relocating to there would only cement a second-rate image for Apple -- and I live there.
God it sucks that the first 3 posts to this article are undeniable trolls. Slowly but surely the Macintosh platform is gaining ground in the nerdier circles including slashdot. I just wish it would happen a little quicker so we can actually discuss things rather than imply that Mac users are gay or that they will be out of business in 6 months if they don't go x86. Shut up already. I heard enough of that shit back in the early 90s.
Now about the Expo...No matter where it ends up it'll beat the hell out of PC Expo which I've been to in Chicago for the last 2 years. I do hope other computer shows are better than that one. What a dog. I didn't see one excited person there. Not even the vendors seemed to be awake. Just a small building filled with small, cheesy, lame booths and a couple of hundred middle-aged tech managers shuffling aimlessly about.
Now, Macworld is a different thing. Don't believe it? Try it. You can get in to the show floor for a song. Go see for yourself. And when you get back keep the Kool-Aid analogies to yourself already. Jeez.
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Lots of carrying cases. Lots of fonts. Not very much software.
I got Stephen Chernicoff to sign my copy of "Macintosh Revealed."
White Pine Software had an empty booth with a sign taped to the table announcing that they would soon have their first product, a VT-220 emulator for the Mac.
Someone was demoing software that created a small amount of RAM cache for the floppy drive. If you had a whopping 512K of memory, that RAM cache actually could speed things up a bit.
What else was there? Overvue, from Provue Development, I think... Filevision from Telos, which was really mindblowing at the time.
I believe it was the 1986 MacWorld that had the huge inflated Macintosh outside promoting MacPublisher, a very early desktop publishing product.
In the first few years, MacWorld was really great. You could belly up to a booth and really try out and learn about new software. The people exhibiting the software generally knew a lot about it and were often developers.
Ah, well... MacWorld may come back to Boston, but it will never be like 1985.
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I know its bad form to reply to your own posts, but I just looked it up, and the numbers have dropped over the last couple of years. Just correcting myself to save someone else the effort.
Oh man, not again. Hasn't this been cleared up several times? RISC architecture. Runs cooler, less mhz needed. Shorter pipelines. It's very simple, the reason the Apple processors have a slower mhz number is because of the RISC architecture. Your awesome r0x0r Pentium is basically an overclocked 486. This is the reason they have to be 2ghz with a gigantic fan on them to get better performance. Heard about the new AMD chip? Guess what, it's RISC. It's going to run cooler. My G4 doesnt have a huge fan on it. The performance is the same. The new AMD chips and the new Intel chips are just like the G4 and SPARC chips, 64bit, RISC, and lower mhz.
Quote 1: "enticed by a free offer for Boston's brand-spanking new convention center"
Quote 2: "free rent at its new convention center, expected to be completed in 2004"
They plan to get the Macintosh hippies and the GNU hippies in the same city at the same time! Don't do it!
for this year might have been down to all the "rumors" flying around stating that there was no G5.
.Mac) is all a recipe for a pretty boring expo.
"there was not much interesting at this year's expo" in NY, and that is a quote from an ex-Bungie employee.
no new hardware of tecchnological note, lame new software and services (iTunes and
it is no different than this year's linux expo on NYC being smaller, and far less interesting, IMO, than 2 years before.
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Being that I'm a mac user that goes to college in Boston, I'm very happy. However, they would no longer have the ability to advertise apple as going to the big apple. Sure, its just gimmicky advertising, but it works.
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Since I read the original NY Post article, I have a hrd time seeing Macworld leave New York. A) the new Boston facility won't be open until 2004, so its not like it won't be Macworld 2003 or 2004 for that matter. B) New York officials have said they have no intention of losing Macworld, as has the Javits Center. C) This kind of scuttlebut is common in New York, as these people constantly want some sort of concession from the city. Even the New York Stock Exchange threatens to leave the city. D) Steve Jobs moved it to New York for a reason. If you notice, the move to New York was when Jobs returned as CEO of Apple. (I know IDG handles the affair, but it really is an Apple event, what Apple wants, it gets.) While I will avoid the whole Boston v. New York can of worms, I will say that if Macworld moves back to Boston, it will probably not help Apple reach a larger audience, just by their respective populations.
I just got two troll points further odwn for making a wise crack about Apple and the sorry state of it's processors. Note that I'm a mac user. I personally was in the market for a new Mac laptop but was left wondering about the price/performance as compared to PC's which are so venemously put down by Mac users. Apple makes a brilliant OS in OSX but it's hardware is expensive and slow compared to PC's (Go and try a modern PC with XP or Linux to see for yourself. Look at the price tag while you're at it.)
I point out that Apple's iMac has stopped selling well and Macs are sitting in the stores in General at the moment. Apple doesn't acknowledge the fact that it is falling behind in performance and the macintosh fans are extremely reluctant to look at the facts in the face.
It is *NOT* getting better either as far as I can see. Even if Apple does get a break and manage to conjure up 1.8 to 2.0GHz CPU's how is Apple going to tell all those people that have recently bought a Macintosh that not only do they get to pay $129 for the OSX update but they also have machines that are less than half as fast as the newer ones selling at the same price. Wouldn't you be irritated?
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I too live in Boston; I think it's an annoying town. However, it's immensely easier to get to and stay in than NY (easier=cheaper)...the airport is a 10 min subway trip from any downtown hotel, there's fun touristy stuff to do, the city's small enough to wander around on foot, and due to the high student population the town is used to large groups of rowdies showing up in bars.
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And what does this have to do with the possible return of Macworld to Boston, exactly?
I always used to weasel a block of tickets to the Ingram party at the Museum of Science every year back when I ran a Mac network for a living. Now that was the place to hold a party! Free booze, free food, live music, and all sorts of nerd attractions since the exhibits were open.
I particularly remember the year that Casady & Greene (at least that's who I think released it) came out with a commercial version of the old Talking Moose, and had a fellow dressed up in a moose suit walking the floor of the show handing out demos.
At the party that night, the moose showed up in costume, and was out on the dance floor when he toppled over from heat exhaustion. What a sight...
It was kind of funny seeing a bunch of geeks carrying the moose off the floor.
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Northern Virginia is the largest information technology sector in the US. That's right. Bigger than Silicon Valley. D.C. (and not Boston) is a primary internet hub. It's the center of the defense infrastructure. All the lobbyists are here. All the embassies are here. All the NGOs are here. Congress is here. All the governmental dollars are here. AOL IS HERE! Why the heck are they bothering with a backwater like Boston?
I lived in Philly for two years, myself, and I stand by my initial assessment. Philly is a real city, and Boston combined with Cambridge still isn't remotely as large.
Boston has not given IDG a free ride, at least not yet -- IDG was pushing for it, and looking for leverage in dealing with the Javitts people. There still isn't an offer on the table from Boston, and AFAIK it'll be 2006 before the center is completed anyway.
The "Silver Line" is a bus, still rides on the roads, and is no more a subway than the Green Line is (less, actually). A bad joke, especially for those of us South Enders who are expected to use it.
Finally, no one stays in downtown Boston, they stay in Back Bay/Copley, by the airport, or not in Boston at all...and I'd hate to have to walk from any of those places to downtown, the WTC in southie, N./S. End for restaurants or anywhere else in the July heat.
Please, don't compare the pathetic cab system they have in Boston to that of NYC or Philly -- apart from a couple of train stations & Logan, you simply can't get a cab unless you're on Mass Ave or Boyleston.
We'll just have to agree to disagree, but I think its clear that Boston is not the site for a world-class event that Apple needs. Tokyo, London, San Francisco, and...Boston? I think not.
I think Apple just wants to hear people try to pronounce Jaguar in a funny Boston accent.
I don't know if they are really planning on boston. I just got my MacWorld for September 2002 (one with the new 17inch iMac on cover). On page 32 and 33, they list the two upcoming MacWorld Conferences:
January 6-10, 2003 - The Moscone Center, San Fran, CA
July 14-18, 2003 - Jacob K. Javits Center, NYC, NY
I guess that is nearly a year in the future, but it might be a little difficult to change the location if they let it go a couple more months.