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TheKompany Releases DivX Software For Zaurus

An anonymous reader writes: "InfoSync has an article on DivX for the Zaurus. Finally, you can watch movies on the go!" Between this and theKompany's ogg player, the Zaurus looks cool. It's a little chunkier perhaps, but another reader points out that Archos is now taking pre-orders for its do-everything Jukebox Multimedia device, which might be another option for those seeking a portable anything box.

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  1. Chunkier? by dmorin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ummm...let's not forget that it has a builtin compact flash and SD slot in that footprint, shall we? How big do the other guys get when you add the special sleeves and adapters to do that? Not to mention the integrated keyboard.

  2. Playlist in picture by scott1853 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I saw bourne-identity listed in the playlist on the picture. Has this movie been released on DVD yet?

    1. Re:Playlist in picture by JabberWokky · · Score: 5, Funny
      All it is is a camcorder pointed at a bash prompt and a guy typing "who am i". Bourne Identity.

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    2. Re:Playlist in picture by ywwg · · Score: 2

      I think they are all trailers

  3. Someone needs to think of the long-term effects by krog · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It seems like everyone in the world, particularly the US and Japan, is looking towards more and more sensory overload for happiness. I mean, seriously, do we need a cell phone, PDA, pager, and a DivX player all vying for our attention every moment of our day? Will this make us any happier, or will it push us further into becoming the attention-less, cynical pricks we silently feel ourselves becoming?

    All these stimuli are really going to do a number on us in the long run, mark my words. I fear for two generations from now, who will grow up in a world of stimulation we can't even currently dream of.

    1. Re:Someone needs to think of the long-term effects by Matey-O · · Score: 2
      or will it push us further into becoming the attention-less, cynical pricks we silently feel ourselves becoming?
      I am NOT a prick, you dickhead! :P

      It just means there will be more and more features the buying public won't use.

      The wife's got the same uber cool J2ME LG flipphone I've got, with the web browsing and the funky ringtones.

      Short of changing the ringtone to Monty Python, she barely knows (or cares) how to more than answer and call-out.

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    2. Re:Someone needs to think of the long-term effects by rw2 · · Score: 2

      All these stimuli are really going to do a number on us in the long run, mark my words.

      Pffft!

      That's what the luddites used to say about radio too.

  4. Saleman by Zapdos · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is just the thing for a small portable sales demo tool. It has one of the best screens.

  5. Why no demos from these people? by dmorin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've noticed that theKompany's got the best Zaurus software, but they don't offer demos on anything. Does anybody know why? Particularly on a device like the Z, where there is effectively no commercial competition, I'd like to be able to evaluate their software before I buy it. After all, it could stink, who would know? Not saying it does, just saying that unlike in the Palm world, for instance, theKompany doesn't have 10 competitors breathing down its neck and making sure the quality stays high.

    1. Re:Why no demos from these people? by Dead+Chicken · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's like $10 - $20 for one thing. You shelled out $400 ish for the device what is $10 or $20 on a piece of bad software?

      Ah just my $.02

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    2. Re:Why no demos from these people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      it's always just been a matter of time and resources, we do have a demo for tkcRekall, and at some point things will slow down and we'll find a reasonable way to do demo's for the other apps.

      Shawn Gordon
      President
      theKompany.com

  6. Cool, how about battery time? by peterdaly · · Score: 2

    What better use could a device like this provide than streaming video over it's 802.11b connection? Not sure why I would want they but it sounds like a good idea.

    Anyone have expierience with battery time using a 802.11b connection for something like that? I keep getting more and more reasons I want one of those SL-5500 things. I would probably only use it for each of those reasons once though...

    What's the killer "keep using it" app for these?

    -Pete

    1. Re:Cool, how about battery time? by SuperCal · · Score: 2

      I get about 2 hours with my brand new battery. Thats general web browsing, I haven't had it long enough to tell how much a constant download will hurt battery life. I know 2 hours doesn't sound like much compaired to palms that claim weeks, but my samsung I300 only gets maybe 2 hours as well while on the internet (14.4 wireless modem). All in all its an amazing little machine. I like it so much I bought a book on C so I can learn to develope for it. I'm starting to go off on a tangent so...
      ............,Cal

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    2. Re:Cool, how about battery time? by jandrese · · Score: 2

      I've got a Palm VIIx (probably the most power hungry Palm ever--I got it from work), and a pair of NiMH AAAs last me about 2-3 weeks of normal use. I only use up about 50kb of data traffic a month though (I'm grandfathered on the $10/month plan). I know I'm not getting the optimal life from my batteries though. I charge up the batteries right after I swap them (Two sets of batteries, one set is always charged and ready to go), so the batteries sit around on the shelf for a couple of weeks discharging into the air waiting to be swapped back in.

      Of course I'm not watching movies on my Palm either...

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  7. Mplayer ( %100 GPL ) already runs on Zaurus by unixmaster · · Score: 5, Informative
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    1. Re:Mplayer ( %100 GPL ) already runs on Zaurus by SuperCal · · Score: 2

      Wow, thats great. I've been messing with that for a while and finally got it to work useing that link. thanks.

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    2. Re:Mplayer ( %100 GPL ) already runs on Zaurus by narfbot · · Score: 2, Informative

      ahh you beat me =)

      The nice thing about Mplayer, it's the fastest player, and probably the smallest (All good for a PDA). The mplayer binary on my k6-3 is only 1.5 Mb and thats with a bunch of extra junk.

  8. Re:Storage ? by tube013 · · Score: 2

    if you you use DivX (mpeg4) like it is supposed to and drop the bit rate down, and incode it for the size of the zaurus's screen you should be able to fit about an hour of video onto a 128mb card.

  9. Re:The Kompany? by eyepeepackets · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    Anyone who thinks people should be dragged out into the street and shot should be dragged out into the street and shot.

    Yikes, that's me too! Let me rephrase that....

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  10. Re:Hrm by NorthDude · · Score: 2

    The Zaurus run Linux and java...
    Heres's a spec pages:
    Zaurus
    Also, the "dev" version have only 32meg of ram instead of 64

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  11. Re:Storage ? by Loligo · · Score: 2

    >Extend that to 256 if you buy an expensive CF
    >card.

    $100 is "an expensive CF card"?

    I guess when you consider the Zaurus itself is $400ish, it could be considered expensive, but...

    -l

  12. Now to make some movies! by IceFox · · Score: 4, Informative
    To go with this I have put up a howto for making videos that can play on the Zaurus.

    mpeg_encoding_howto

    Enjoy

    Benjamin Meyer

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  13. Now, if only I could use it as a PDA . . . by myawn · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Stuff like this for the Zaurus is neat (I have one), but if the Zaurus is going to be successful there are more important things that have to happen:

    Battery life has to improve drastically (currently about 2 hours in developer's model)

    Standard apps (calendar/address book) need to be as good as the standard ones available on Palm

    Without those basics, the 'Wow' applications make neat demos, but won't win market share.

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  14. Mplayer was ALREADY ported, and plays divx. by pantherace · · Score: 2, Informative
    Ok, so I beat them by a couple of days or so. I am working on a nice little gui for it.

    url: http://kirk.math.twsu.edu/family/james/mplayer.htm l

  15. TiVo, Zaurus, ... by Jagasian · · Score: 2

    While consumer-level services that use Linux on the backend are well established, with examples such as Google and Amazon, consumer products are just now showing their colors.

    Everyone loves their TiVo, a device that makes TV worth watching, and the Zaurus has reached a critical mass where there is enough mindshare to facilitate the development of tons of great custom software for the Linux based PDA. So what will we see next? I think that it would be nice to see the Zaurus technology used in a mobile phone.

    For many, PDAs are great, but for most, PDAs take a backseat to their mobile phone. Why not cut the chase and combine the two?

    1. Re:TiVo, Zaurus, ... by rseuhs · · Score: 2

      Exactly, my next PDA will have to combine cell phone functionality, otherwise I will stay at my Psion.

  16. Re:The Kompany? by ivan256 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't know about The Kompany in particular, but usually it has to do with guaranteeing trademarkability of your name. Anything that is sufficiently arbitrary is trademarkable, so the idea is to come up with something that is arbitrary enough to be undisputably trademarkeable, and at the same time try to create an association with something specific in the mind of the person reading it.

    I took some intellectual property law classes when I was still in school in hopes that it would help me know what to steer clear of when working with open source, and software in general. One week our homework every night was to come up with 10 company or product names that were sufficiently arbitrary to be trademarkeable, yet still understandable. We then spent the class time that week trying to "overturn" the other student's trademarks. $1900 in credits well spent. (Well, it was better then the environmental law class. I don't know what I was thinking taking that one.)

  17. Re:And this is news, how? by bflong · · Score: 3, Informative

    >So, a company releases a proprietary DivX player
    -Yes... tckPlayer is propriatary

    >for a proprietary window system
    -Nope... The windowing system and toolkit are GPL. For an entirely GPLed enviroment that will still run standard Zaurus apps (minus Java for now, sorry) see Opie which is the UI for OpenZaurus. We're building a player for all these formats as I type this.

    >running on hardware that's mostly used in Japan
    -Nope again. The Zaurus 5500 is a US/EU product.

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  18. Re:The Kompany? by edwdig · · Score: 2

    It could be worse. There used to be a software company called The Company. Imagine what legal contracts with them looked like.

  19. Re:Summary by g4dget · · Score: 2
    Wait - it plays all this and makes your PDA a mini-entertainment center, and youre not willing to pay as much as a tank of gas? Give me a fucking break - some people take this open source thing way too far.

    The question is not who is willing to pay for it, the question is why this matters to anybody on Slashdot. There are plenty of proprietary DivX players around. What difference does one more make? Why is this news?

    Maybe Slashdot should let people filter out announcements of non-free software--I'm really not interested.

  20. Re:Storage ? by noda132 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah, but nowadays they're most likely to be Microdrives, which actually have platters and spin and suck your battery's life out. It'd be a race between which is finished first, the movie or the battery.

    256 is *plenty* for a divx movie. Converting 640x480 to 320x240 already knocks a 700MB movie down to 175MB, no more compression required.

  21. Training Video by CMiYC · · Score: 2

    At first I thought "what a complete waste. Cool, but useless." Then I realized, it has a very good practical use. It would be ideal for viewing training videos. The test equipment I work with is pretty complex. It'd be nice to have a small display that you could easily move around while you're watching. If your computer (laptop or desktop) is on your desk, and your equipment is in a lab, this would be much easier to move around. Just a thought before everyone says "stupid idea." (makes you wonder... posting a message saying "lame" or doing something cool but preceived as lame. I wonder which is actually useless.)

  22. Do-Everything by Sloppy · · Score: 2
    Heh. A "do-everything" box that can't even play Vorbis.

    That sounds about as useful as a Swiss army knife that has a screwdriver, tweezers, scissors, etc. but -- oops -- doesn't have a knife blade.

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  23. Re:next up... by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 2

    "If a DIVX movie is huge, seems like you can't fit very much on one small PDA..."

    Point taken. But there was a time when you couldn't copy a CD onto a hard drive...

  24. Re:The Kompany? by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 2

    Uh... didn't The Kompany really start out focusing on KDE? Hence the _K_? :^P

  25. Re:next up... by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 2

    Well, just to play Devil's Advocate, what about wireless?

    I set up a 'media server' at home which is essentially a Windows 2000 box converted into a TiVo. It captures TV at 330kbits to Windows Media 8 format that PC's, PocketPC's, and Macs can support. Eventually I'll set up a wireless network so that I can roam around with the laptop and watch video straight off that machine.

    Concievably, a PocketPC would be able to do it via 802.11 as well. Unfortunately, I need a titch more processing power. A 206mhz iPaq can handle the video at 15 FPS, but not at 30. When the XScale PocketPc's come out (if they haven't already), I should be able to do just that.

    Okay, I won't be watching a movie/TV at a restaruant, but any computer in my apartment would be have video on demand. I'm about $200 away from getting that working right now.

  26. Indeed... but? by marm · · Score: 2

    I think this is more than a conincidence. I also heard the author of ffmpeg got an email that the many error codes in tkcVideo are very similiar to ffmpeg...

    Ok, yes, you're probably right, it probably does use ffmpeg. What's the big deal? As you point out, ffmpeg is LGPL'ed, which allows proprietary applications to link to it. Any modifications they make to ffmpeg would have to be released, but I'm betting they had to make zero, zilch, none. A Zaurus is just a fairly typical ARM Linux system. As long as they're using a standard shared library version of ffmpeg, supply a copy of the LGPL somewhere, and give credits to ffmpeg in the about box and a pointer to where the LGPL is, they are in the clear. That's not really asking a lot. If they do this, they don't even have to provide ffmpeg source. At least, this is how I and quite a few people read the LGPL.

    The LGPL is quite a different beast to the GPL, and that's by design.

  27. Re:The Kompany? by GoRK · · Score: 2

    Yes. And writing apps for QT/E is very similar to writing apps for KDE. Same widgets, same languages, etc.

    ~GoRK