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USB KVMs Compared

EconolineCrush writes "KVM switches have always been a great way to control multiple machines, and now they're coming with all sorts of cool USB peripheral sharing and audio switching functionality. The Tech Report has a compared a couple of the newest KVM switches from Belkin and IOGear that're worth a look if VNC just doesn't do it for you."

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  1. IOgear rocks by EvilStein · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've got one of these hooked up betwen my old ass G3/233 (with Mac OS X 10.1.5 and a combo USB/Firewire card, which works great) and my XP box. Plug commonly used devices into the extra ports on the front, like my Epson printer and my Handspring Visor, and it's good to go. I haven't had one single problem with the unit so far, and there was even a $20 rebate, so it was under $100 too. :-)

    1. Re:IOgear rocks by pnatural · · Score: 3, Informative

      I agree with your comments. I've had an IOGear model G-CS104U for almost 3 years now. Never had a problem with the KVM, and every device I've plugged into it has worked as expected.

      Also, the nicest thing about the unit is the fact that it came with all the necessary cables: 4 monitor cables and 4 USB square-type cables. I've never had the need to purchase additional cables specifically for the KVM. If only all products gave you everything you need...

  2. You can get better than KVM for little more money. by wackybrit · · Score: 5, Informative

    KVMs are good, and they certainly have a variety of specialized uses, but they're not versatile enough, in my opinion. For example, in situations where two computer might need to both be used at once. What do you do then?

    I've been looking around for solutions to this problem, because I've been thinking of opening a cybercafe, and I found something called BeTwin.

    BeTwin is like the inverse of a KVM switch. Instead of having one keyboard, monitor, and mouse control one of a bunch of machines.. it turns a single machine -into- the bunch of machines.

    Licences are $80 a head, and you can have up to 5 people independently using a single Windows 2000/XP machine just by plugging 5 USB keyboards, 5 USB mice, and 5 graphics cards into a computer (5 USB speakers too, if you think the USB bandwidth will take it!).. absolutely ideal for cybercafes where processing requirements on each station are low.

    I have decided to go with the Linux route, rather than pay these fees, but thought I'd share it anyway.

  3. My experience by Doodhwala · · Score: 4, Informative


    I use KVM switches at work and wish I had one at home. The ones I use are fairly expensive (Blackbox... they make lots of server products) and still leave something to be desired. On high resolutions, it takes a couple of seconds to switch between machines and even after paying so much, you can make out that the image is a little blurred on a 21 inch LCD (from Dell). And most of them dont work too well with laptops.

    That said and done, I have to add that they are indespensible. Its amazing how much time it saves especially with keyboard shortcuts (you press Control-Control to get to the KVM and then a letter for the computer you want to switch two). Plus its essential in server rooms where these boxes can be cascaded to 64 or 128 machines. Now if only the good ones were a little bit more affordable for the rest of us....

  4. PC Weasels are often better than KVM switches. by perry · · Score: 4, Informative

    KVM switches are okay if you're just trying to avoid having more than one monitor for a couple of boxes you sit in front of, but they suck for managing a lot of hosts in real production work. I find that using a PC Weasel and a terminal server works a lot better than a KVM switch for remote management of Unix boxes running on PC hardware. KVM switches are okay some of the time, but PC Weasels rock!

  5. Re:PS/2 KVM switches by BJH · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've got an IOGear 4-port PS/2 KVm switch at home, and I've *never* had any problems with losing the mouse/keyboard connection on it.

    In fact, the only problem I've ever had with it is when my 6-year-old AlphaServer refused to recognise my keyboard when connected to the switch, but all the other hardware I've tried with it (including an Alpha Miata workstation) have worked fine.

  6. Re:PS/2 KVM switches by tenman · · Score: 4, Informative

    We have over 100 KVM switches in our building. in 30 different labs. Some are for SUN, some HP, most for PCs, and none of them ever give us problems. However, while we are not using the top of the line matrix KVMs, we are not using the SOHO crap that the artical rates. Our switches are setup to handle more than one user, 2 or 4, and control 8 to 32 machines. I am looking for a cheep way to buy one of these monsters for my home. The cheapest 4 user by 16 port system I have found is $3999. All of the switches we have can handle 1600x1200, and allow for PS/2 | DINN | serial style keyboard/mouse connections. All of them have on screen display, however none of them have USB or sound support. If you as a reader are looking into KVM switches, but don't want the sound of humming boxes under your desk, check out the longview extenders from . You can put this bad boy 200ft away from your kvm switch, and still view your screen at 1600x1200. We play FPS'ers via these titans all the time, with no loss of res, or screen update speed.
    Also, while VNC (slow screen updates), is by far the greatest free tool of it's kind I have ever seen, there are cases where you really really want to be at the console, and yet still keep your boxes in a controled environment.

  7. Re:USB? What about the UXGA? by Foresto · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have a Linksys KVM100SK 2 port KVM. It doesn't do USB, but it carries 1600x1200 video at 75Hz rather nicely. It's also cheap, comes with well shielded cables, supports my logitech wheel mouse in both Windows and Linux (using MS drivers on the OS), and doesn't require external power.

  8. Re:USB? What about the UXGA? by Polo · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've found lots of the problems aren't so much the KVM as the cables. I got a KVM that came with a full set of cables, but they ghosted. I also bought some cheap VGA cables and they did the same thing.

    However, when I bought some heavier duty cables with the ferrite cores on them, all the problems went away. (FYI I bought them locally at Action Computer in Sunnyvale, CA and they weren't too expensive)

    Check your cables.

  9. For the record... by AlphaOne · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article states:

    Unfortunately, both of these switches require large, boxy power adapters, the kind that don't tend to fit well in most surge protectors. Ideally, I'd like to see power pulled directly from one of the connected computers, but I'd settle for a power connector that moves the box away from the plug itself.

    Perhaps my version of the Belkin KVM switch is different from the one they reviewed, but mine requires no external power. It works exactly as they wished it would... using power from the systems themselves.

    I have a Windows PC using PS/2 plugged into port 1, an Apple G4 using USB into port 2, and a Linux box using PS/2 in port 3. The keyboard and mouse are PS/2 and the Belkin box effortlessly translates between them.

    The problems they mention with USB peripheral disconnect is likely because the reviewer has connected the USB peripherals to the keyboard. You have to think of the KVM as its own USB device and not a hub. It's a KVM switch not a KVM-CD Burner-Digital Camera switch.

    I can't comment on the other switch they review, but I love my Belkin KVM switch and I'd recommend it, especially if you have a mixed installation as I do. It works great with very few problems.

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    All opinions presented here aren't mine.
    1. Re:For the record... by MCRocker · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, most of the KVM's I've used have this as an unintended feature. It can cause real problems because there are several situations where the KVM can get messed up and you can't control any of the machines. The only recourse is a reset of the KVM, but pulling the plug doesn't do that because it gets residual power from the keyboard and mouse connections to the running machines!

      The only safe solution is to physically unplug ALL of the machines from the KVM, then power it down, power it back up and then plug all the cables back in.

      The only other choice is to shutdown all of the computers and then power cycle the KVM, but of course since you don't have control of the machines, they can't be shut down nicely (in most cases). This is really not a good solution.

      If you're using a UPS, make sure the KVM is plugged into it too because if the KVM loses power, but any of the machines on th KVM don't then you could experience the problems I've just described.

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  10. Re:What about video quality over long distances? by shepd · · Score: 4, Informative
    >The problem is, how do I run video from the downstairs rack to my office (easily a 40' run)?
    • Depending on your length of run, RG-6 or RG-11 cable (3x or 5x your run -- depends on how much you care about the sync signals, or if you're lucky enough to be using a Sync-On-Green monitor :-). RG-6 is for shorter runs. TV coax is probably not good enough.
    • A crimping tool, if you don't have one already.
    • VGA to BNC cable. (you can skip this step if you want to do it yourself).
    • BNC connectors.
    • Serial mice will require a good quality, low gauge extension cable. PS/2 mice I wouldn't bother with. USB will not extend past 15 ft due to design flaws.
    • Hack yourself up a keyboard lengthener with your leftover cable (for the clock and data signals). Here's the pinout. Put together your long BNC VGA cable in whatever fashion suits you, making sure that the RGB signals and returns are going through their proper, separate, cables.

      There ya go, home-made long video non-sucky cables made easy. :-)
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    If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
  11. awful belkin usb switch by Faceprint · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just finished returning the Belkin switch they reviewed here. I found it to be unusable, because of some major shortcomings.

    The first thing was that it didn't work with my keyboard (logitech wireless). The F7 key was useless when plugged into the KVM. This was relatively minor, and they promised a firmware upgrade to fix it. Also, for those that care (I'm not one of them) the "internet keys" don't work.

    The other problem I had was also keyboard related. The KVM has a keyboard emulator, which sends keyboard events to the computer, after receiving them from whatever keyboard you have plugged in. If you hold down a key for 3 seconds, the keyboard emulator fakes a key release. So scrolling stops after 3 seconds, and if you're ctl-clicking to select stuff, and you take more than 3 seconds to do it, suddenly the ctl-key is no longer pressed down, and you select just one item. I got the impression that this wasn't going to be fixed in firmware, but rather in the next revision of the product.

    Also, the response time was sluggish at best, typing felt like i was in an ssh session over a slow link. Oh, and keys stuck sometimes.

    I was planning on getting the IO Gear one instead, as I am told it doesn't have the same shortcomings. Here's hoping.

  12. IOGear with 'USB sniffing' is the best by SensitiveMale · · Score: 4, Informative
    IOGear makes the best KVM switches that I have ever used.

    I have used switches by Belkin, IOGear, Cybex, and a few others and they aren't even close in quality.

    Only the IOGear does not display any video ghosting. IOGear video is rock solid with no fuzziness.

    I switched to USB after I saw that IOGear uses 'USB sniffing". This neat feature eliminates that 3 to 4 second delay that every other USB KVM has and makes the switch as responsive as a PS2 switch.

    IOGear has top quality stuff but their cables are a bit expensive.

  13. Belkin Caveats by fasteddie203 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The scroll lock hotkey on the Belkin's can cause the console to get stuck in linux, sometimes you have to hit the button on the KVM to unfreeze it - which can be a pain if you plan on only using the hotkeys and have the KVM in a out reach spot on your desk.

    The belkin SOHO series (which I am using now) don't seem to reset PS/2 mice as reliably as the older Omnicubes (which I also use). Although, you don't need AC power for the SOHO series (it will draw power from keyboard ports). I had to return two units (over the course of 1.5 years) that would change channels (with loud beeps) in the middle of the night randomly - even though the PCs were off and wouldn't stop until I unplugged every single cable (including monitor). Adding an AC adapter from a spare omnicube fixed that problem.

    Belkin does have a 3 year warrenty on their KVMs though, which has proven helpful for me.

    1. Re:Belkin Caveats by MCRocker · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also if you're using a wheel mouse on Linux with IMWheel (IMPS/2), then the Belkin switches will mess up the mouse severely when you switch. Typically, once you switch back, the pointer will be stuck in the corner. Moving the mouse will move the pointer a short distance from the corner, randomly register button clicks and snap the mouse back to the corner! On Caldera Linux, it's the upper right hand corner and on Red Hat Linux, it's the lower left. In either case, it makes the machine practically unusable.

      If you know your keyboard shortcuts, you can shut down X and restart it and everything will be fine. Naturally this isn't a good solution, but the other day, I discovered that if you simply switch to one of the virtual terminals (ctrl-shift-F1, or F2 through 6) and then switch back to X (ctrl-shift-F7 or 9 on some systems) then you can get back control of the mouse without having to shut down X.

      The Belkin KVM also causes problems with OS/2, but it only loses scroll information, so it's not critical. You have to restart the Work Place Shell or reboot to get it working again.

      These are fairly serious problems that make the Belkin KVM's effectively useless under certain configurations.

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  14. Not designed to work with LCD screens by Tim+Browse · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't believe the hype. The guy asking specifically mentioned LCD screens - and they tend to look like hell when you put them through a KVM, especially one of these low end KVM switches. The reviewer was using a CRT screen, unless I'm mistaken.

    I tried the previous Belkin USB KVM. It sucked. Apart from failing to switch smoothly at all - the keyboard would constantly disappear on switching and then I'd have to actually move it to another port to get it to work - the video signal was terrible. I was running at 1024x768@70Hz. It was blurry as hell.

    I contacted Belkin to tell them it was the least impressive product I'd ever bought, detailing my problems.

    On the monitor front, they replied that the switch was not designed to be used with LCD screens, which was why the quality was so bad.

    Seriously, when you're used to pin sharp LCD displays, putting them through a KVM and turning them into something that looks like a 6 year old CRT is not such a great idea.

    Maybe Belkin have fixed this issue with the new one, but bear it in mind if you have an LCD screen.

    I actually have two monitors and one kbd/mouse, and use a simple Belkin no-frills USB switch with the kbd/mouse. It works like a charm - mainly because I don't think it tries to be too clever.

    Oh yes - the KVM also looked rubbish on my CRT monitor too - but I traced this to the 'official' Belkin VGA cables - they sucked too. Replacing them with other (not expensive) makes of VGA extension leads improved the video quality on the CRT enormously. This was trivially proved by just using the leads as extension leads, taking the switch out of the equation. When using the Belkin leads, video quality was crap. Again, maybe they've fixed that now - I don't know - but it's something else to be aware of.

    Tim

  15. Re:PS/2 ports... WHY?? by eschasi · · Score: 4, Informative
    Simple answer:

    It was cheap when cheap mattered, and it replaced a connection without changing the way it worked. And for the record, the old connections were not RS-232 ports, so the question is a bit off the mark. Yes, they had some RS-232 components, but they weren't full-featured.

    If memory serves, IBM invented this cable format for the PS/2. (You do remember IBM had a computer called the PS/2, right?) This particular connector might have been adapted from something else (strong resemblance to a Mac kbd/mouse connector, as I recall), but the big public play was with the PS/2. It was smaller, cheaper, etc, than the AT keyboard connector, and therefore a win all around. IBM then quickly adapted it for use with their `standard' PCs, and everybody followed. (Again, this was back in the days when IBM did something and everybody followed.) It was (and is) signal-compatible with the old keyboard, and I've still got a few of those ATPS2 keyboard adapters around somewhere in the dungeon.

    At the time the AT-style keyboard connector was put on PCs (early 1980s), nobody ever dreamed we'd be having roomfuls of these things all cabled up to a single monitor/keyboard/mouse. The computers were too expensive for a person to own more than one, and not powerful or reliable enough to put into racks and stacks to provide specialized services. The kind of switching talked about here just wasn't envisioned, and in fact, would have been considered insane. Putting more expense into the component so it could be hot-swapped (and making the appropriate O/S changes) was simply not worth doing.

    But eventually technology catches up, and the marriage of USB with keyboard/mouse permits the right thing to happen. One could argue that you ought to simply be able to plug/unplug the keyboard from USB host to USB host, and in fact, you can do that with some of them. But that still doesn't solve your monitor connection problems, and last time I checked, SVGA didn't work over USB. So a single switch that moves 3 components simultaneously is a big win.

    I looked over the article posted at the top, and am pretty impressed. USB KVM switches are a great idea, and after reading over the above articles, I want one. In fact, I want both of 'em, because each has some very cool features.

    Hmmm... so I guess I'll wait until the next generation comes out, when each company adds features from the other. :-)

  16. Spoofing is a must, was: IOGear w/ 'USB sniffing' by rjniland · · Score: 2, Informative
    95% of the USB KVMs on the market rely on USB's hot-attach-detach plug&pray. This results in disconnect-reconnect events being seen by each host, with a minimum of 3-5 seconds for bus re-enumeration on EVERY switch operation. If your switch is also a hub, or supports devices other than K/M ("peripheral sharing"), it is almost certainly a simple non-spoofing switch.

    If you only switch occasionally, this might be ok. If you frequently switch (as between RISC workstation and PC), it's unacceptable.

    4% of USB KVMs are actually just simple mechanical switches. They have all the same problems as above, plus, striclty speaking, they violate USB rules, and can have nastly malfunctions if they don't have correct precedence for power-on/off (as USB connectors do).

    1% of USB switches, just now entering the market, have "spoofing", aka "sniffing", aka emulation of devices. A correctly implemented spoofing switch never lets any host see a disconnect. Designing this is far from trivial. USB is complex, and the varieties of keyboards and mice are effectively infinite if you're trying to chase them all for purposes of emulation.

    In addition to the IOgear mentioned above, there is only one other spoofing switch that I'm aware of, and it isn't fully debugged yet.

    In the meantime, I recommend:
    • Use a quality USB(host) to PS/2(device) adaptor, such as the Y-Mouse USB (www.ymouse.com) on each USB host.
    • Use a PS/2 switch.

    Wait for this USB KVM situation to get sorted out. And it will need to soon, as PS/2 ports will be vanishing from new machines next year (and already have from many 64-bit platforms).