I know that at this point, "RTFA" has become a running joke... but you're the first person I've seen who hasn't even bothered to read the comment which he's replying to! Way to set a new bar for other slashdotters to meet...
The really funny part is that he didn't even read the comment which he was replying to!
I did a quick test on my iPhone (v2.1 OS), trying to copy what they did in the ad (zoom in on image, follow link, maps set to street mode not satellite, etc) - albeit using PC Pro's method of using wifi.
Minus phone call, but using the iPhone stopwatch app to time myself, it came to 54 seconds in total. I cleared Safari's cache first to avoid getting an advantage, and sent myself an email with a PDF attachment before the test.
I can't see from the PC Pro video how big the PDF was, but it didn't look complicated, so I chose a 2-page data sheet that was about 150k.
And it took 54 seconds. But then I'm not a hamfisted fecking eejit like the person doing the PC Pro 'recreation'.
I imagine the story is different with 3G (PC Pro's wifi seems to perform worse than 3G!), but then if you're in a good reception area, 3G is pretty good. You can't really argue that the ad has to work with 1 bar of 3G signal.
Blimey, things have advanced then. Is this with XP or Vista, out of interest?
My barometer is how many people I see at work wandering the corridors with their laptop, but holding it horizontal with the lid not quite closed. It's basically everyone with a laptop. Until that changes I'll assume in general Windows is still a bit unreliable at this.
Well, I just tried this on my vanilla MacBook. Leaving an instance of TextEdit open, I put it to sleep. Then I opened the lid and tried typing.
Time for text to appear in TextEdit? Less than 3 seconds from when the magentic lid catch separated.
I've never seen a Windows laptop do that. I usually have a working wireless connection in less than 8-10 seconds too. That took at least 30 seconds on the last Windows laptop I tried (same base station).
I use PCs and Macs btw, but this is one of those things that Macs just seem to do way better, probably due to Apple's ability to control the hardware. Windows has to deal with whatever random collection of chips you have on your motherboard, etc.
I see plenty of articles about people wanting to run arbitrary software on iPhones (and the iPod Touch handheld) but don't see much about people having problems putting music on or taking music off of iPods using programs other than iTunes, which is what the person I was replying to brought up... along with some sort of "encryption" used on the USB connection.
I provided a nice list of ten programs other than iTunes that read and write music to the iPod. I think that pretty thoroughly debunks said point.
I just went over that list of 10 programs through some (admittedly not thorough) googling, and checked them for compatibility with iPhone/iPod Touch, which are the models that cause the issue due to the encryption/hashing used.
Amarok - requires iPod Touch/iPhone to be jailbroken
gtkpod - requires iPod Touch/iPhone to be jailbroken
Rhythmbox - requires iPod Touch/iPhone to be jailbroken
Songbird - requires iPod Touch/iPhone to be jailbroken
Winamp - seems to need jailbreak, but mlipod/iphonefs may provide a real solution (in future!)
MediaMonkey - supports iPod Touch/iPhone but only v1 of firmware, so largely useless
Banshee - no support
Floola - no support
SharePod - no support
YamiPod - no support
So perhaps your nice list of programs is less useful than you thought, and does not debunk the point.
As far as I know, there is no program other than iTunes that will let you put music on an iPod Touch/iPhone (with v2 firmware) without hacking the device's OS. iirc, hacking the OS voids the warranty, so obviously most people don't want to do this.
I bought a lego set recently, just for the hell of it. There were quite a few sets with 'special' pieces, often a major part of the set. The one I got though, was a more generic one, that came with instructions on how to build it into an airplane, a helicopter, or a hovercraft. It seemed to me to be most in the spirit of Lego of all the sets.
And what did the guy at the cash register say when I bought it?
I have a LinkSys router on which the DNS server lasts about 2 days before dying.
I'm not really sure how my config could affect that. I don't remember ticking the "Fall apart like a piece of crap after 2 days" checkbox.
I was kind of on the fence about all this, as you never get a true/complete picture from the reporting.
Until I read, however, that he had removed the front passenger seat from his car so he 'could sleep in the car', and then claimed that he threw away the seat (or was unable to produce it).
That goes against the instinct of every geek-like person I've met - they'd all keep the seat, so they could replace it later if they needed to use it, or wanted to sell the car, etc. "I'll keep it just in case."
That was the bit of his story that made me think "uh oh".
When I came up through my CS degree, object-oriented programming was new. Programming was largely a series of sequentially ordered instructions. I haven't programmed in many years now, but if I wanted to write a parallel program I would not have a clue.
But why should I?
What is needed are new, high-level programming languages that figure out how to take a set of instructions and best interface with the available processing hardware on their own. This is where the computer smarts need to be focused today, IMO. Crikey, when was your CS degree? Mine was a long time ago, yet I still learned parallel programming concepts (using the occam language).
I really feel sorry for the guy. Regardless of whether or not he committed the murder, he was a good programmer and an important member of the open-source community.
Well, that's not going to be quoted out of context ad-nauseum by the anti-OSS brigade now, is it?
Although tbh, in context it's pretty indefensible too.
"So I murdered someone - but I wrote this really cool open source app!"
First you need to get your terms straightened out.
Pedophilia is the love of children, like a foster parent who loves the children he/she is caring for as their own. O RLY?
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Where can I download it?
I own two, one dead by lightning strike.
The other by design, iirc.
I know that at this point, "RTFA" has become a running joke ... but you're the first person I've seen who hasn't even bothered to read the comment which he's replying to! Way to set a new bar for other slashdotters to meet ...
The really funny part is that he didn't even read the comment which he was replying to!
I did a quick test on my iPhone (v2.1 OS), trying to copy what they did in the ad (zoom in on image, follow link, maps set to street mode not satellite, etc) - albeit using PC Pro's method of using wifi.
Minus phone call, but using the iPhone stopwatch app to time myself, it came to 54 seconds in total. I cleared Safari's cache first to avoid getting an advantage, and sent myself an email with a PDF attachment before the test.
I can't see from the PC Pro video how big the PDF was, but it didn't look complicated, so I chose a 2-page data sheet that was about 150k.
And it took 54 seconds. But then I'm not a hamfisted fecking eejit like the person doing the PC Pro 'recreation'.
I imagine the story is different with 3G (PC Pro's wifi seems to perform worse than 3G!), but then if you're in a good reception area, 3G is pretty good. You can't really argue that the ad has to work with 1 bar of 3G signal.
I expect people would have said the same about this too.
It's too bad there is so much stupid people in the world.
It's truth. There is too many stupid people on the world. If only they where perfect like us we wouldn't be all that problems.
In America we call that Lazy, Elitists, who do not contribute positive to the overall society.
In Europe we call that bad punctuation.
You lucky bastards. Here in the UK we dream of YouTube not being illegal and being able to watch it ourselves!
Blimey, things have advanced then. Is this with XP or Vista, out of interest?
My barometer is how many people I see at work wandering the corridors with their laptop, but holding it horizontal with the lid not quite closed. It's basically everyone with a laptop. Until that changes I'll assume in general Windows is still a bit unreliable at this.
Well, I just tried this on my vanilla MacBook. Leaving an instance of TextEdit open, I put it to sleep. Then I opened the lid and tried typing.
Time for text to appear in TextEdit? Less than 3 seconds from when the magentic lid catch separated.
I've never seen a Windows laptop do that. I usually have a working wireless connection in less than 8-10 seconds too. That took at least 30 seconds on the last Windows laptop I tried (same base station).
I use PCs and Macs btw, but this is one of those things that Macs just seem to do way better, probably due to Apple's ability to control the hardware. Windows has to deal with whatever random collection of chips you have on your motherboard, etc.
I see plenty of articles about people wanting to run arbitrary software on iPhones (and the iPod Touch handheld) but don't see much about people having problems putting music on or taking music off of iPods using programs other than iTunes, which is what the person I was replying to brought up... along with some sort of "encryption" used on the USB connection.
I provided a nice list of ten programs other than iTunes that read and write music to the iPod. I think that pretty thoroughly debunks said point.
I just went over that list of 10 programs through some (admittedly not thorough) googling, and checked them for compatibility with iPhone/iPod Touch, which are the models that cause the issue due to the encryption/hashing used.
So perhaps your nice list of programs is less useful than you thought, and does not debunk the point.
As far as I know, there is no program other than iTunes that will let you put music on an iPod Touch/iPhone (with v2 firmware) without hacking the device's OS. iirc, hacking the OS voids the warranty, so obviously most people don't want to do this.
That's a sale lost, then...
I guess they'll have to choke back the tears :-)
Ah, you Americans and your quaint complaining about the price of petrol :-).
I bought a lego set recently, just for the hell of it. There were quite a few sets with 'special' pieces, often a major part of the set. The one I got though, was a more generic one, that came with instructions on how to build it into an airplane, a helicopter, or a hovercraft. It seemed to me to be most in the spirit of Lego of all the sets.
And what did the guy at the cash register say when I bought it?
"That's the most popular set by far."
That will cost you the princely sum of $6.99
'Stealing names'?
I would have thought that names are information, and information wants to be free.
And how can it be stealing unless you deprive the original owner of the name?
Well, yes.
You think Apple deliberately specified that Safari for Windows could only be installed on Apple branded computers?
And that they're going to enforce it and bring cases against anyone who installed it?
I'd say this is quite possibly just like that kind of bug.
Yeah, I mean, who cares about reliability and functionality? :-)
I have a LinkSys router on which the DNS server lasts about 2 days before dying. I'm not really sure how my config could affect that. I don't remember ticking the "Fall apart like a piece of crap after 2 days" checkbox.
I was kind of on the fence about all this, as you never get a true/complete picture from the reporting.
Until I read, however, that he had removed the front passenger seat from his car so he 'could sleep in the car', and then claimed that he threw away the seat (or was unable to produce it).
That goes against the instinct of every geek-like person I've met - they'd all keep the seat, so they could replace it later if they needed to use it, or wanted to sell the car, etc. "I'll keep it just in case."
That was the bit of his story that made me think "uh oh".
Good job I wasn't on the jury, eh? :)
But why should I?
What is needed are new, high-level programming languages that figure out how to take a set of instructions and best interface with the available processing hardware on their own. This is where the computer smarts need to be focused today, IMO. Crikey, when was your CS degree? Mine was a long time ago, yet I still learned parallel programming concepts (using the occam language).
None, but this site is also read by people outside the US (no, really). If the posters had added the caveat "in the US" you might have a point.
Well, that's not going to be quoted out of context ad-nauseum by the anti-OSS brigade now, is it?
Although tbh, in context it's pretty indefensible too.
"So I murdered someone - but I wrote this really cool open source app!"
"...but it may harm your defence if you do not mention, when questioned, something which you later rely on in court."
The above is from the UK police caution (after the govt decided people being silent in interviews was pissing them off).
No idea how often this clause is actually brought into play though.