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Prosoft Releases Mac OS X Client for Netware
JSherman writes "Prosoft Engineering has released a client that enables Mac OS X to connect to a Novell network. The client is pure TCP/IP, and is not tied with AppleTalk. Its been possible for Macs to connect to Netware Servers for a long time by using Novell's Native File Access, but this is a much better method since it's an actual client that will remember your user ID and password when connecting to servers, and it allows you to browse the NDS tree. This is great news for all of us that use Apple computers in the Enterprise. Mac OS X progress marches on."
Head spins...
They meant to say "Netware Client for MacOS", and not the other way around...
MacOS 10 has had support for LDAP and NIS. 10.2 will have support for Active Directory. Now explain to me why I should PAY for a Novell client, when all I have to do is read some documentation.
Burn Hollywood Burn
Not only can you get a NetWare client for the MAC (OS X) but you can download the demo from an ASP page. For those who don't want to bother with the reg info, here is the link to download it directly. The serial they gave me was 9602-3082-0060-5950-2. I assume it is time limited or some such other nonsense.
ASCII tastes bad dude.
Binary it is then.
Both of my 'real jobs' have had Netware networks. I don't like Netware, but having a Mac client is a good thing.
Space offers virtual desktops for OS X (kinda) and it's open source.
Why can't I moderate something "Wrong" or at least "Grossly Misinformed"?
Virtual desktops, now -that- would be progress for OS/X - I'd like to see -that- problem addressed
How 'bout:
Now focus-follows-mouse for MacOS X, that would be something to shout about... =)
There's more Mac users who know what it is to not be able to log onto a NetWare server than who know what "virtual desktops" even are
You like your Macintosh better than me, don't you Dave? Dave? Can you hear me Dave?
At least, that's what Novell and the reviewers say.
This is nothing new. I have been using this client for almost a month now, with limited success. It is VERY buggy, but it beats having to rely on ftp or booting into OS 9.
To the people making fun of novell users -I don't use novell by choice. I hate our university's network. I wish our departmental IT guy would dump that stupid novell server, but he's always raving about it for some reason. And I still can't figure out how to configure the #@%^! OS X Cisco VPN client so I can login from home. Thanks to the total lack of support for anything besides windoze, I probably never will. Hmph.
-margaret
> ...Apple will tell you they have appletalk why do we care what anyone else does...
This is a bald-faced lie. I'd say you were ignorant if you had a clue about anything Apple has been doing regarding networks, but you pulled the above quote out of your ass. I was working there when they KILLED the use of AppleTalk on the campus network in favor of TCP/IP and that was YEARS ago.
Oh... and have a nice day!
Apple may have its head up its ass in a lot of ways, but imposing AppleTalk on anyone who doesn't want to use it is NOT its current mode of operation and hasn't been for a long time. And I have NEVER had the trouble with Macintosh networking that I have had with getting Novell and Windows networking to operate properly either separately or in concert. Write back when you stop composing your "contributions" with excrement from your diaper.
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Now focus-follows-mouse for MacOS X, that would be something to shout about
Not gonna happen. Not even possible, in fact. Why? Well the Mac Menu bar sits on the top of the screen, not under the title bar of each window. So moving the mouse from a window in one application to a window in another application would require the menu bar to switch to the other application's menu bar, otherwise the user is left with the uncomfortable (and not at all user-friendly) situation of having Application A's menu bar while working in Application B's window. But it gets worse. Assuming, for the above reasons, that the menu bar has to change when you mouse over another application's window, you're in for a nightmare if you use the menus (and why have menus if you aren't going to use them?). Every time you move the mouse to the menu bar, you have to move the mouse pointer out of the Application's window. And if you have any other windows open in the background from another application, your menu bar is going to magically change every time you move the mouse up to the menu bar, defeating the purpose and causing much swearing.
You could do all sorts of hacks around this, like time-delayed menu-bar switching, but the fact is, the whole metaphor just doesn't work on a Mac. Focus follows mouse is also pretty confusing to most users, since their experience generally comes from either the Mac or Windows world, neither of which has focus follows mouse (actually, you can turn it on in Windows through a registry hack, same goes for tab-completion on the command line). The intended audience of this feature would be UNIX converts, but because of the menu bar deal, they'd be just as annoyed as Mac users. That's why I doubt we'll ever see this in the Mac OS, even as an option.
Now, on my FreeBSD boxes I tend to use focus follows mouse with sloppy focus, and I like it, but it just doesn't work under the Mac OS metaphor, not that I mind.
I'm guessing the 3000 series. The client download is called vpnclient-macosx-3.5.rel-k9.tar.gz. I can't get the damn thing to even install. I run the install script and get a zillion "no such directory" errors. So despite having all this advanced technology at my disposal, I use ftp to get my files. And because I'm new to the mac, I get extremely frustrated because the resource fork thing gets lost, and my ftp'ed files never open in the right application.