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E-voting Trials and Tribulations

Alex Susor writes "This article is about the new digital touch screen voting system in Georgia, the first state in the nation to adopt this method of voting statewide. Demonstration machines were set up at the recent primaries to teach voters about the new system (to be in place for the November general election) and had some big problems." Compare and contrast to systems in Florida and Germany.

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  1. good paper == better. by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you should really first develop a paper system that nobody challanges to not work properly, it's not that hard. power shortage and s*** is bound to happen somewhere even with ups. + the (illusion) of real privacy goes straight out of the window.

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    world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
  2. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

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  3. Friendly help by aseh · · Score: 5, Funny

    As long as there is a talking paperclip at the bottom of the screen to help people out, I think everything will go smoothly.

    1. Re:Friendly help by GuyMannDude · · Score: 4, Funny

      Clippy: "It looks like you're voting for President!

      (wiggles paperclip tail and bounces around the screen excitedly)

      I can just see some old geezer going ape-shit when that starts to happen. "Someone is spying on my vote!"

      GMD

  4. 2004, counting room by Theaetetus · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Hey, Fred, what's with the 200 million write-in votes for Bill Gates?"

    -T

  5. Secret ballots with secret software by leighklotz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder if it's really legal to have votes counted by a machine that has secret software inside that voters are not allowed to examine?

    Chris Riggall, a spokesman for the secretary of state's office, attributed the problems to errors by poll workers, a glitch in the Windows operating system that runs the machines ...

    Shouldn't voters in Georgia be able to file an FOI request to find out what's happening to their votes?

  6. the true voting tech is the method, not machines by js7a · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I don't care whether they use paper, plastic, or some newfangled electronic gizmos. :)

    What really matters is that they use Instant Runoff Voting; please see:

    The Center for Voting and Democracy

    the Instantrunoff mailing list

    and the California Instant Runoff Voting Coalition for an example of a good local activism site.

    P.S. You can create your own web-based IRV web surveys with DemoChoice.org (also includes free downloadable php scripts for your own site.)

  7. Next election by JahToasted · · Score: 5, Funny

    The next president of the United States: {FATAL EXCEPTION IN 0x0E4F}

  8. I got a look at one last Tuesday by The+Wookie · · Score: 4, Informative

    It had a touch-screen with a display that was probably about 18" high and 9" wide. There was a card reader to the right where you inserted your voting card. I'm not sure how the distribution of the cards will work. I don't know if they will issue every voter a card or if you get the card when you go to vote. It looked like it had a smart chip on it instead of a magstripe.

    The user interface was pretty easy. It would present one or more categories and all the candidates for each category. You just touched the one you wanted. Once you selected a candidate, it greyed out the others. It took me a few seconds to figure out that if I changed my mind, I had to touch previous selection to undo it. There were "Next" and "Previous" buttons to navigate through the various pages.

    At the end, it showed a summary of my votes so I could give a final yes/no to my choices. It printed out some kind of receipt, I think, but I didn't really look at it.

    If I had to guess on the platform, I have to say that I did see an hourglass icon that looked just like the one in Windows. Maybe they're running WinCE or something. It looked a lot like one of those "pen computing" devices that never really went anywhere.

    I would probably feel a little more secure about the system if it printed out a ballot that I then had to put in a ballot box, so it wouldn't be any worse than what we have now (from a fraud standpoint). It is certainly easier to use than the punch ballots we have now.

  9. Re:Computerized voting restricts access to voters by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Voters who are not computer savvy will likely become confused by the unnecessary complication of the new voting machines and many are likely to cast their ballots in error, possibly voting for a candidate they had no intention of supporting.

    I think you're over-estimating the complexity of the system for the user.

    It's not hard: you see the candidate you want, you touch their name. Their name lights up. If you want to change your vote, you touch a different name. Once you've picked your candidate, you move on to the next page. You can change your vote later. When you want to accept the ballot, just press a last panel on the screen.

    This isn't rocket science. It's as easy as the paper ballots, if not easier.

    The reliability and accuracy of paper-based systems is what led to the mess in Florida in 2000.

    I agree with you on the hacking and digital manipulation. There are ways around this, but only if the system is well-designed. Of course, there are all sorts of ways to manipulate the system to produce a desired result, both subtle (place the candidate's name on the second page of a list of names) and gross (stuff the ballot box with 'votes' for your guy from 'voters' who are dead.) No paper system is 100% tamper proof.