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KDE Gets The Hat

minkwe writes "Tension is currently rising between the KDE and GNOME followers, following the release of the new beta to Red Hat's upcoming distribution. Neither group appears to be satisfied with the fact that Red Hat has null-ified the difference between the two desktop environments."

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  1. About that hat by DotComVictim · · Score: 4, Funny

    So does it support transparency, anti-aliased logos and gradient shading now... that's a pretty fancy hat.

  2. So what? by keesh · · Score: 5, Funny

    KDE sucks anyway. Oh, and Vim is better than Emacs, Java is a dead buzzword, PHP is far too slow to use in a production environment, Python is for hippies, Perl 6 is massively outclassed by Ruby, *BSD is dying, OS X is just eyecandy, Mozilla is a buggy piece of shit and spaces are better than tabs.

    1. Re:So what? by Surak · · Score: 5, Funny

      And C is better than C++, K&R is the 1TBS, csh is better than bash, Solaris is dead, RISC sucks, Amigas are for wannabes, Radeon kicks GeForce's ass, RMS is 10x the programmer Linus is, Linux sucks because its monolithic, and MySQL isn't viable for a production environment because it doesn't make good use of multithreads.

      Hacker Tourette's Syndrome. :) I love it. :)

    2. Re:So what? by psicE · · Score: 3, Funny

      Everybody knows real geeks use Blackbox, joe, Objective-C, Amaya, and Eiffel on a Debian GNU/Hurd box.

    3. Re:So what? by reallocate · · Score: 3, Funny

      Forgot one:

      / is better than \

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    4. Re:So what? by damiam · · Score: 3, Funny
      RMS is 10x the programmer Linus is

      A lot of people do prefer RMS's OS to Linus's.

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    5. Re:So what? by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 2, Funny

      Uh... excuse me? Tabs allow you to put in 8 spaces for the price of one character. Why waste memory and disk space with thousands upon thousands of spaces when you can cut them down to 1/8 by using tabs? I think you aren't using your noggin.

      By the way, *BSD is not dying. Last I checked, some folks are making their living entirely from *BSD.

      And Mozilla is a lot shittier than you have described.

    6. Re:So what? by be-fan · · Score: 3, Funny

      8 spaces? 8-space tabs are for amateurs. Real programmers use 4-tab spaces!

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    7. Re:So what? by JanneM · · Score: 4, Funny
      And Evil programmers use 3-space tabs to confuse everyone.

      /Janne

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    8. Re:So what? by ajs · · Score: 3, Funny

      [...] and spaces are better than tabs.

      I was with you right up to there, but man! You can't dis the tabs! Only EBCDIC-lovin mainframe-huggers want spaces over tabs. You're not a mainframe-hugger... are you?!

      Kidding asside, this whole article is rather disturbing to me. It seems like we're feeding trolls and whiners because it gets Slashdot riled up. That kind of muckraking isn't really productive for the OSS community as a whole.

  3. And what's up with the X Window System? by green+pizza · · Score: 2, Funny

    Command-line console utilities and the various shells are still far from perfection... so why are all of the lemmings moving to GUIs? They're just slow and inefficent anyway! NeWS was bad, X11 is worse. Windows and Mac OS are even less flexible.

    If you have to make an X app, please do us all a favor and use "clean" straight xlib, stay away from the bloat of Motif, GTK, and Qt.

  4. Hey, wait a minute!!! by kko · · Score: 2, Funny

    Vim is not better than Emacs!!!

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    1. Re:Hey, wait a minute!!! by ceejayoz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Everyone knows Notepad beats both of them, anyways.

  5. Well then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Neither group appears to be satisfied with th fact that Red Hat has null-ified the difference between the two desktop environments.

    I wonder how they feel about having their server null-ified by shashdot?

  6. Re:screenshots by anakog · · Score: 5, Funny
    From screenshot #7:

    GNOME is a powerfull, graphical user interface which includes a panel, desktop, system icons, and a graphical file manager.

    KDE is a powerfull, graphical user interface which includes a panel, desktop, system icons, and a graphical file manager.

    It seems that Red Hat have indeed gone through a great deal of effort to conceal the differences between KDE and GNOME.

  7. Re:choice / customization is a *GOOD* thing by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is far too reasonable of a response. Who are you and what are you doing posting on slashdot?

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  8. Well now wait a doggone minute... by quiklilo71 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who really cares? The desktop wars are always fun, it pushes all products to "Excel" or change thier "Outlook." Heck I'm not making a "Powerpoint", I'm just stating the facts. Competition is good for linux, it pushes us to open new "windows" and grow. This is evident in the way open source coverage has grown "XP"ediately in media coverage lately. You mark my "Word", it does not matter; KDE or Gnome, which ever product continues to "Project" themselves forward with quality features, smooth intergration and stable ease of use; that will dominate the desktop.

    1. Re:Well now wait a doggone minute... by blackula · · Score: 1, Funny

      Wow you guys are "morons"!

  9. Re:screenshots by RickHunter · · Score: 5, Funny

    Err... I don't see what all the fuss is about. Screenshots 1-16 are GNOME and 17-20 are KDE. Its not like they've mushed the two together, and its not like there's no differences between them. They don't even have the same window decorations! Sure, the panels look a bit similar, and GNOME's been made up to look a bit like KDE. Big deal - they're both themable desktops. You can change how they look.

    Oh, and the RedHat package tool in #7 looks a bit familiar to users of Windows. From the screenshots, this is not a bad thing - the UI looks much better than previous versions of said tool.

    So could someone please explain to me what the issue is here? (The gnomedesktop article seems to be down, so I can't seen the original source.)

  10. Re:Oh Grow Up by TheDanish · · Score: 2, Funny

    But people who don't even know about this might not realize something they couldn't care less about! Not that the UI has anything at all to do with the big picture, except for it work and be easy to use, but for not being a purist, you should be ashamed of your self.

    I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about, and I don't even know how what I said could possibly make any sense. But apparently it makes sense to some people. Or maybe I'm mistaken over the whole thing.

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  11. Re:OK.... focusing on just the themes by unsinged+int · · Score: 4, Funny

    Um...you mean RMS. You linked to a Slashdot article about RMS suggesting KDE and Gnome collaborate.

  12. Cool! Now we Have the KNOME Desktop!... by GroundBounce · · Score: 3, Funny

    Or should we call it GDE?

    Here's my list of favorite apps:

    Gonqueror
    Gapital
    Kimp
    Knumeric
    Knucash
    Gil lustrator
    Gword
    Kaleon
    Givio