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KPIG is Back - By Subscription Only

Posted by michael on from the pay-to-play dept.

We've noted before that KPIG, one of the oldest internet broadcasters, was one of many to shut down their netcasts after the recent CARP ruling on copyright royalties. Well, they're back, but 128kbit mp3 streams have been replaced with with lower-quality Real streams, and free has been replaced with subscription-only. Gotta do what you gotta do, I guess.

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  1. Internet Radio Fairness Act by SteelX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you really care about Internet radio and wish to see it remain free, check out the Internet Radio Fairness Act.

    Quoted from Voice of Webcasters (VOW):

    "Representatives Jay Inslee (D-WA), George Nethercutt (R-WA) and Rick Boucher (D-VA) have stepped up to protect small businesses from being unfairly forced out of business by the performance copyright royalties recently affirmed by the Librarian of Congress. They have introduced a bill in the US House of Representatives (HR 5285) that would SAVE INTERNET RADIO (click here to view a copy of this important legislation). In protecting Internet radio, it will help ensure that artists will have a chance to receive fair compensation for their work and that webcasters will have a chance to survive and grow to provide artists with a place to promote their music."

    VOW also has a page where you can send a fax to Congress about this legislation.

  2. RealOne Player Adware / Spyware by speedenator · · Score: 5, Interesting

    DISCLAIMER: I work for Real.

    (figured two sep posts would be easier than one long-winded one :)

    Re: adware: RealPlayer is, next to AOL, the most obnoxious ad experience I've ever seen. And I, and many of my colleagues, have told our execs that. At company meetings. And there's some acknowledgement of that; we reduced the streaming ad frequency down to once per 5 minutes last week. That being said, our ad sales group still managed to get tons of cash from Verizon and whomever sells FreeMem Pro (go figure). So we "monetize the free player experience." ;)

    My advice, in all seriousness: buy a subscription. By paying us for a service, this means (a) it's ad-free (and thus pretty useable :), and (b) you get to bitch at us and we actually have to listen. It's been pretty helpful so far in getting a lot of stuff fixed.

    Re: spyware: it is, but we're crappy at spying. Legal is also pretty good about making sure we don't keep what we shouldn't. I know it's annoying, but as per above, creating a service that goes through Real (and thus potentially creates a log entry) is often the fastest way to get something to market. My advice: again, buy a subscription. Then ya get to bitch. :)

    PS - you probably may also want to stop using Credit Cards... VISA / MC are much better spies than we are. They sell your purchases to whomever wants 'em. Which means when you want to launch a direct mail campaign to sell your cool subscription service and need names and addresses of people who have purchased similar content before, guess where you get the names and addresses from? Lovely, ain't it?

    -e

    1. Re:RealOne Player Adware / Spyware by grahammm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Can I as a Linux user buy a subscription? If so how? Despite all of the emails Real sends to me offering a subscription, I have never managed to find a way of downloading a Linux subscription version - all I can find are versions for Windows.

  3. Re:RadioPass / RealOne by dieman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Then you need to make RealOne work on Unix. I've got better things to do than use a windows machine to listen to the radio streams.

    --
    -- dieman - Scott Dier
  4. Re:WKRP In Cincinnatti? KSHE ST. Louis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The world's first FM Stereo rock station (1976) has had a pig as its mascot since inception.

    The original 1967 bumper sticker had "Sweetmeat" wearing sunglasses and headphones, with a "hand rolled cigarette" in his mouth.

    Real Rock Radio

    They also opened the "Real Rock Cafe" and was sued by the Hard Rock Cafe, who lost. KSKE was Real Rock Radio YEARS before the bozos that started the "Hard Food Cafe" got going.

  5. First Internet radio station by dpreformer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    WFHB in Bloomington Indiana was being multicast on the Mbone in May of 1994. One of the earliest live music performances on the internet took place via WFHB in June of 1994, documented in a Bloomington Arts magazine, the Ryder.

    I know - I did it. The sfotware used is called VAT (Visual Audio Tool) from Lawrence Berkeley National Lab (and others) I ran a patch cord from our lab's radio receiver to an SGI IRIS 4D30 (called nano.cica.indiana.edu) and onto the Mbone. The live broadcast had listeners from as far away as Melbourne Australia, which the band thought was really cool.

    As far as I know the first live music on the internet was also via the Mbone. A band called "Severe Tire Damage" did regular multicasts from Digital's facility at Xerox/Palo Alto Resarch Center. At least that is what the regular "Radio Free VAT" people (mostly geeks from Argonne labs patching their CD players into their SPARCstations or SGI INDY workstations. Radio Free VAT was programmed by people anywhere in the world on a sign up basis - if you wanted to play some music for a while you could easily get a slot
    .
    In some sense the guys at Argonne have claim to the first internet radio stations.

    The Mbone tools are still available for download. I have no idea if people are still regularly multicasting their music picks, but it is very easy to do.