PLATO was born in 1960. By 1973 it had grown to the point that it enabled social networking of sorts - online games as well as its ostensible purpose for computer aided instruction.
I remember PLATO terminals in the university library when I was first using computers - they were big amber plasma screens that did pretty good graphics for the time. Beat punched cards and green bar paper as far as user interface hands down. It was a lot nicer than the dumb terminals that were starting to be available for coding.
I'm happy about this too. I've spoken with TSA on at least 5 occasions about the problem of a suicide bomber before security. When you think about it current airport security causes concentrations of people in the queue for metal detection and xray screening. In Pittsburgh airport back in 2003 there were on the order of 600 people in a dense crowd waiting their turn, which would have been a quite inviting target to a terrorist wanting to disrupt air travel.
TSA agents told me then, and on subsequent occasions that they have both uniformed and plan clothes agents watching for suspicious behavior. In many ways this is better for safe travel than the security theater of removing shoes and no toothpaste enforced at the checkpoints.
While I don't think the law is a good one it seems to me a workaround for the federal law saying only an account creator can have access is to only allow minors to create pages on accounts their parent creates.
How does the innocent party prove his innocence now? If DNA testing has the problem of two individuals DNA leading to the same ID then there are serious problems with using DNA to convict.
OJ was innocent!
As for the government really detorying the same - if the sample gets used (abused) after it was supposed to have been destroyed (only the ID number retained) then the individual should have recourse to recover damages.
Don't get me wrong - I don't like the ida of a government DNA ID database. I think it is a mistake and rife with abuse potential.
Not commenting on whether I think the database is a good or bad idea beyond stating I think it is bad...
I do think that once a profile is done and a unique ID (The 52 digit number mentioned in the article and thread title) is developed that the sample can be destroyed. Concerns about new techniques etc are red herrings - if there is a need to do more with a given individuals DNA in a criminal investigation then the authorities should be able to show probable cause to get a new sample and do the analysis. Keeping a sample in storage is an invitation to abuse of the data.
21 people couldn't avoid the flow of molasses? This seems very strange seeing that molasses is the canonical viscous fluid - slow as molasses in January. 15 foot amplitude, gotta wonder at the wavelength crest to crest...
First machine I ever used was a CDC 6600 at the university. I was one of several high school students that would rummage through card recycle bins for account cards to gain access to the machine. eventually the university put a stop to this by creating a special account for us all to use.
Used an array of other machines for work, first machine I ever owned was a SarpcStation 1+ I bought off of usenet. I had usenet access via a 2400 bps modem and ADM and Televideo terminals purchased surplus from the University.
What's really weird is spending time in the tropics (near the equator). On the equator sunrise/sunset time doesn't change. Endless succession of 12 hours days.
It struck me very strong when I visited family in Ecuador back in December 1991. Going from the shortest daylight period of the year in Indiana to Miami was one thing, days were still shorter than nights, but then Ecuador was permanent equinox land. Just didn't seem right that close to the solstice.
Godel doesn't show you can reach invalid conclusions. There are statements in arithmetic that are beyond the ability of formal logic to prove. A little deeper - any formal system that is consistent and with sufficient power to encompass arithmetic using natural numbers cannot be complete - that is there are theorems that cannot be proved or disproved within that formal system.
Sun has contributed more engineering to Linux than HP, Dell, AMD and IBM. IBM's contributions have primarily been marketing, with some work to get Linux ported to their proprietary hardware.
http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue5_7/ghosh/
Sun is number two in number of lines of code conributed by this count. Where's IBM?
To; Sloppy From: dpreformer Subj: Bullet point memos
- Sloppy posted a comment stating bullet point memos were something unknown to him.
- Bullet points can be used to illustrate how to write a bullet point memo.
- See how easy this problem was to solve with an illustrative example?
- Alternative methods can involve subheadings
1 eg numerical bullet points
2 footnotes/references*
* No references for this memo, just illustrative.
I'll do it again for something important to me:
To: Congressman Baron Hill From: (name withheld from Slashdot), constituent Subject: Hinkley/Rohrbacker Amendment
1) The DEA is interfering with state rights by conducting raids on medical marijuana patients in states that have passed laws allowing medical marijuana.
2) Two congressman have offered an amendment to the Justice Department's appropriation bill forbidding use of funds to conduct these raids (Subect amendment).
3) Supporting this amendment shows compassion for sick and dying people.
4) Our former governor and former secretary of HHS procured medical marijuana for his wife as she was dying of cancer - should the DEA have raided the Indiana governors mansion for this?
5) Thse funds could be better put to fighting terrorism and/or decreasing the budget deficit....
In practice you're correct. Federal Revenuers (BATF) aren't looking for small scale production. Nonetheless the BATF are frequently criticized for overreacting... be careful out there since the law against home distilling still stands - you have to get a license and pay taxes to be legal. Note that it is a federal excise tax, not a state one, so it is uniform across all states.
Beer and wine are not distilled spirits. During the Carter administration making your own beer and wine became legal on a federal level. Some states still have prohibition on brewing and winemaking, not to mention that there are dry counties where such production is illegal. There also exist federal limits on how much beer and wine do exist - 100 gallons per person and 200 galons per household.
probably not a good idea to admit to distilling whiskey in the US, might get the revenuers after you.
One of the first federal taxes in the US was on distilled spirits. In fact the first post revolutionary war us of federal troops was to stop the "Whiskey Rebellion" caused by westerners opposed to the new tax. http://capo.org/opeds/whiskey.html
The rebels mostly escaped into the hills of eastern kentucky and tennesee - nowadays they are called moonshiners.
We used the PDP8 as a learning tool in a hardware class. Built a PDP8 using wirewrap and Programmable logic arrays, then tore it down and rebuilt it using Microcode. It was pretty cool - had a variable clock, single step for debugging, serial i/o.
Course number used to be C421/422 at Indiana University. Text was "Art of Digital Design" by Prosser and Winkler. Kits may still be available.
WFHB in Bloomington Indiana was being multicast on the Mbone in May of 1994. One of the earliest live music performances on the internet took place via WFHB in June of 1994, documented in a Bloomington Arts magazine, the Ryder.
I know - I did it. The sfotware used is called VAT (Visual Audio Tool) from Lawrence Berkeley National Lab (and others) I ran a patch cord from our lab's radio receiver to an SGI IRIS 4D30 (called nano.cica.indiana.edu) and onto the Mbone. The live broadcast had listeners from as far away as Melbourne Australia, which the band thought was really cool.
As far as I know the first live music on the internet was also via the Mbone. A band called "Severe Tire Damage" did regular multicasts from Digital's facility at Xerox/Palo Alto Resarch Center. At least that is what the regular "Radio Free VAT" people (mostly geeks from Argonne labs patching their CD players into their SPARCstations or SGI INDY workstations. Radio Free VAT was programmed by people anywhere in the world on a sign up basis - if you wanted to play some music for a while you could easily get a slot . In some sense the guys at Argonne have claim to the first internet radio stations.
The Mbone tools are still available for download. I have no idea if people are still regularly multicasting their music picks, but it is very easy to do.
CRRH's petition drive is the first in the world to accept electronic signatures on the net. A signer uses their computer and mouse to sign.
CRRH has received local media coverage on this. To see the video, go here:
http://www.crrh.org/hemptv/news_kgwesig.html
To read the local, Portland, Oregon newspaper article, go here:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.s sf?/news/oregonian/00/06/lc_61digit23.fram e
On Wednesday, June 21st, CRRH filed a lawsuit in Oregon court against the Oregon Secretary of State to have them accept electronic signatures gathered on the Internet. With the US Congress passing the electronic signature bill last week, and with President Clinton's announced support of the electronic signature bill, CRRH's OCTA initiative is the first petition seeking a statewide vote to gather signatures on-line, using the signer's computer, modem and mouse. If you are a registered Oregon voter, go here to sign on-line:
http://www.crrh.org/octa/sign.html
CRRH's Oregon Cannabis Tax Act initiative has over the minimum required number of signatures needed to qualify for a vote in Oregon. OCTA now has 67,207 signatures turned in to our Portland office. We are now working on a buffer of additional signatures needed to ensure qualification. An initiative here requires 66,786 valid registered Oregon voters' signatures to qualify for a vote in Oregon. Because some folks sign when they aren't registered to vote, or they have moved, or sign illegibly, we need to turn in over 80,000 voters' signatures to the Oregon Secretary of State's office by July 7th to qualify for a vote this November.
The OCTA petition, upon passage and being upheld in federal court, will regulate adult and medical cannabis and restore industrial hemp.
www.crrh.org has won Netscape's "What's Cool" award, Project Cool's "Sighting," the "Cool Site Of The Day" award, been named in the British Medical Journal's "Web Site of the Week" review and much more. Award links from: www.crrh.org/credits.html
I tend to use something similar. Take a song whose lyrics you remember:
"The long and winding road, that leads to your door"
Use first and/or last letters of the words (or alternate them), and make the easy to remember substitutions (to -> 2, and -> & etc) and leave in punctuation. The beatles lyric fragment becomes:
Tl&wr,tl2yd
Any memorable line from a movie, song, comedy sketch, etc can work. Not easy for dictionary attacks to crack, easy to remember.
American beer is 3.5%-5% ABV (alcohol content by volume). In some states they make 3.2% beer, used to be sold to 18-21 year olds until the federal government forced a nationwide 21 year old drinking age. (Why don't 18-21 year olds start voting, and get this changed?).
Guinness in the US is around 3.5% ABV. Not as strong as Budweiser at ~4.0%, but a much tastier product.
The sloshdot party was fun. I enjoyed roughly equal portions of Anchor Steam and Guinness. Can't say I particularly enjoyed the music, I had thought there was going to be a live band. Still, all in all it was a good time.
Actually you do have some rights. It's been 20 years, but in HS I published some undergorund newspapers (they'd probably be called zines nowadays). I was threatened by the HS authorities, and told to desist, at whcih point I went to the local University law library and got caselaw cites clearly demonstrating that I was within my rights and did not have to desist. basic cite should be searchable - look for armbands, as there was a case involving anti-war protestors at a HS wearing black armbands that made its way all the way to the US supreme court and was decided in the students favor.
On the other hand there are times when the school authorities are act "in loco parentis" and can restrict and discipline a student in much the same maneer that a parent is allowed.
non-repudiation can handle the "rewriting of history" problem. Simply refuse articles that haven't been signed electronically. Now a disreputable journal site could allow authors to recall a paper for errors and resubmit a redacted paper, but how is this different from the present review and edit process?
The problem with 60s punch card data is the specs may not be available which makes writing translation tools problematic. If e-journal submissions are required to use a published specification in order to be e-published and reviewed, presumably these specifications will stay available over time. this means tools will be written to allow continued access to legacy publications as specifications change.
Slashdot Mirror
So is this a viral uucp for android? uucp over wi-fi and/or LTE.
And I can't access my government ID wallet. Please provide me with your banking information and I'll transfer $2,000,000 to you for your assistance!
PLATO was born in 1960. By 1973 it had grown to the point that it enabled social networking of sorts - online games as well as its ostensible purpose for computer aided instruction.
I remember PLATO terminals in the university library when I was first using computers - they were big amber plasma screens that did pretty good graphics for the time. Beat punched cards and green bar paper as far as user interface hands down. It was a lot nicer than the dumb terminals that were starting to be available for coding.
I'm happy about this too. I've spoken with TSA on at least 5 occasions about the problem of a suicide bomber before security. When you think about it current airport security causes concentrations of people in the queue for metal detection and xray screening. In Pittsburgh airport back in 2003 there were on the order of 600 people in a dense crowd waiting their turn, which would have been a quite inviting target to a terrorist wanting to disrupt air travel.
TSA agents told me then, and on subsequent occasions that they have both uniformed and plan clothes agents watching for suspicious behavior. In many ways this is better for safe travel than the security theater of removing shoes and no toothpaste enforced at the checkpoints.
Mouse clicking - let's get it added to the 2008 Olympics!
What country has the fastest double clicker? Position mouse on link and click in under 40 mSec!
While I don't think the law is a good one it seems to me a workaround for the federal law saying only an account creator can have access is to only allow minors to create pages on accounts their parent creates.
First post!
probably already been said...
If this study were to win the Nobel prize in medicine would the authors live longer?
How does the innocent party prove his innocence now? If DNA testing has the problem of two individuals DNA leading to the same ID then there are serious problems with using DNA to convict.
OJ was innocent!
As for the government really detorying the same - if the sample gets used (abused) after it was supposed to have been destroyed (only the ID number retained) then the individual should have recourse to recover damages.
Don't get me wrong - I don't like the ida of a government DNA ID database. I think it is a mistake and rife with abuse potential.
Not commenting on whether I think the database is a good or bad idea beyond stating I think it is bad...
I do think that once a profile is done and a unique ID (The 52 digit number mentioned in the article and thread title) is developed that the sample can be destroyed. Concerns about new techniques etc are red herrings - if there is a need to do more with a given individuals DNA in a criminal investigation then the authorities should be able to show probable cause to get a new sample and do the analysis. Keeping a sample in storage is an invitation to abuse of the data.
21 people couldn't avoid the flow of molasses? This seems very strange seeing that molasses is the canonical viscous fluid - slow as molasses in January. 15 foot amplitude, gotta wonder at the wavelength crest to crest...
quite an amusing movie. haven't seen it for a while, looks like it is available via netflix, so I'll be seeing it again before long.
First machine I ever used was a CDC 6600 at the university. I was one of several high school students that would rummage through card recycle bins for account cards to gain access to the machine. eventually the university put a stop to this by creating a special account for us all to use.
Used an array of other machines for work, first machine I ever owned was a SarpcStation 1+ I bought off of usenet. I had usenet access via a 2400 bps modem and ADM and Televideo terminals purchased surplus from the University.
What's really weird is spending time in the tropics (near the equator). On the equator sunrise/sunset time doesn't change. Endless succession of 12 hours days.
It struck me very strong when I visited family in Ecuador back in December 1991. Going from the shortest daylight period of the year in Indiana to Miami was one thing, days were still shorter than nights, but then Ecuador was permanent equinox land. Just didn't seem right that close to the solstice.
Godel doesn't show you can reach invalid conclusions. There are statements in arithmetic that are beyond the ability of formal logic to prove. A little deeper - any formal system that is consistent and with sufficient power to encompass arithmetic using natural numbers cannot be complete - that is there are theorems that cannot be proved or disproved within that formal system.
It is analogous to the halting problem.
Huh?
/
Sun has contributed more engineering to Linux than HP, Dell, AMD and IBM. IBM's contributions have primarily been marketing, with some work to get Linux ported to their proprietary hardware.
http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue5_7/ghosh
Sun is number two in number of lines of code conributed by this count. Where's IBM?
To; Sloppy
...
From: dpreformer
Subj: Bullet point memos
- Sloppy posted a comment stating bullet point memos were something unknown to him.
- Bullet points can be used to illustrate how to write a bullet point memo.
- See how easy this problem was to solve with an illustrative example?
- Alternative methods can involve subheadings
1 eg numerical bullet points
2 footnotes/references*
* No references for this memo, just illustrative.
I'll do it again for something important to me:
To: Congressman Baron Hill
From: (name withheld from Slashdot), constituent
Subject: Hinkley/Rohrbacker Amendment
1) The DEA is interfering with state rights by conducting raids on medical marijuana patients in states that have passed laws allowing medical marijuana.
2) Two congressman have offered an amendment to the Justice Department's appropriation bill forbidding use of funds to conduct these raids (Subect amendment).
3) Supporting this amendment shows compassion for sick and dying people.
4) Our former governor and former secretary of HHS procured medical marijuana for his wife as she was dying of cancer - should the DEA have raided the Indiana governors mansion for this?
5) Thse funds could be better put to fighting terrorism and/or decreasing the budget deficit.
In practice you're correct. Federal Revenuers (BATF) aren't looking for small scale production. Nonetheless the BATF are frequently criticized for overreacting... be careful out there since the law against home distilling still stands - you have to get a license and pay taxes to be legal. Note that it is a federal excise tax, not a state one, so it is uniform across all states.
Beer and wine are not distilled spirits. During the Carter administration making your own beer and wine became legal on a federal level. Some states still have prohibition on brewing and winemaking, not to mention that there are dry counties where such production is illegal. There also exist federal limits on how much beer and wine do exist - 100 gallons per person and 200 galons per household.
probably not a good idea to admit to distilling whiskey in the US, might get the revenuers after you.
One of the first federal taxes in the US was on distilled spirits. In fact the first post revolutionary war us of federal troops was to stop the "Whiskey Rebellion" caused by westerners opposed to the new tax. http://capo.org/opeds/whiskey.html
The rebels mostly escaped into the hills of eastern kentucky and tennesee - nowadays they are called moonshiners.
Do the Foxfire books talk about making moonshine?
We used the PDP8 as a learning tool in a hardware class. Built a PDP8 using wirewrap and Programmable logic arrays, then tore it down and rebuilt it using Microcode. It was pretty cool - had a variable clock, single step for debugging, serial i/o.
Course number used to be C421/422 at Indiana University. Text was "Art of Digital Design" by Prosser and Winkler. Kits may still be available.
WFHB in Bloomington Indiana was being multicast on the Mbone in May of 1994. One of the earliest live music performances on the internet took place via WFHB in June of 1994, documented in a Bloomington Arts magazine, the Ryder.
I know - I did it. The sfotware used is called VAT (Visual Audio Tool) from Lawrence Berkeley National Lab (and others) I ran a patch cord from our lab's radio receiver to an SGI IRIS 4D30 (called nano.cica.indiana.edu) and onto the Mbone. The live broadcast had listeners from as far away as Melbourne Australia, which the band thought was really cool.
As far as I know the first live music on the internet was also via the Mbone. A band called "Severe Tire Damage" did regular multicasts from Digital's facility at Xerox/Palo Alto Resarch Center. At least that is what the regular "Radio Free VAT" people (mostly geeks from Argonne labs patching their CD players into their SPARCstations or SGI INDY workstations. Radio Free VAT was programmed by people anywhere in the world on a sign up basis - if you wanted to play some music for a while you could easily get a slot
.
In some sense the guys at Argonne have claim to the first internet radio stations.
The Mbone tools are still available for download. I have no idea if people are still regularly multicasting their music picks, but it is very easy to do.
CRRH's petition drive is the first in the world to accept electronic
s sf?/news/oregonian/00/06/lc_61digit23.fram e
signatures on the net. A signer uses their computer and mouse to sign.
CRRH has received local media coverage on this. To see the video, go here:
http://www.crrh.org/hemptv/news_kgwesig.html
To read the local, Portland, Oregon newspaper article, go here:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.
On Wednesday, June 21st, CRRH filed a lawsuit in Oregon court against the
Oregon Secretary of State to have them accept electronic signatures
gathered on the Internet. With the US Congress passing the electronic
signature bill last week, and with President Clinton's announced support of
the electronic signature bill, CRRH's OCTA initiative is the first petition
seeking a statewide vote to gather signatures on-line, using the signer's
computer, modem and mouse. If you are a registered Oregon voter, go here to
sign on-line:
http://www.crrh.org/octa/sign.html
CRRH's Oregon Cannabis Tax Act initiative has over the minimum required
number of signatures needed to qualify for a vote in Oregon. OCTA now has
67,207 signatures turned in to our Portland office. We are now working on a
buffer of additional signatures needed to ensure qualification. An initiative here requires 66,786 valid registered Oregon voters' signatures
to qualify for a vote in Oregon. Because some folks sign when they aren't
registered to vote, or they have moved, or sign illegibly, we need to turn
in over 80,000 voters' signatures to the Oregon Secretary of State's office
by July 7th to qualify for a vote this November.
The OCTA petition, upon passage and being upheld in federal court, will
regulate adult and medical cannabis and restore industrial hemp.
www.crrh.org has won Netscape's "What's Cool" award, Project Cool's
"Sighting," the "Cool Site Of The Day" award, been named in the British
Medical Journal's "Web Site of the Week" review and much more. Award links
from: www.crrh.org/credits.html
I tend to use something similar. Take a song whose lyrics you remember:
"The long and winding road, that leads to your door"
Use first and/or last letters of the words (or alternate them), and make the easy to remember substitutions (to -> 2, and -> & etc) and leave in punctuation. The beatles lyric fragment becomes:
Tl&wr,tl2yd
Any memorable line from a movie, song, comedy sketch, etc can work. Not easy for dictionary attacks to crack, easy to remember.
American beer is 3.5%-5% ABV (alcohol content by volume). In some states they make 3.2% beer, used to be sold to 18-21 year olds until the federal government forced a nationwide 21 year old drinking age. (Why don't 18-21 year olds start voting, and get this changed?).
Guinness in the US is around 3.5% ABV. Not as strong as Budweiser at ~4.0%, but a much tastier product.
The sloshdot party was fun. I enjoyed roughly equal portions of Anchor Steam and Guinness. Can't say I particularly enjoyed the music, I had thought there was going to be a live band. Still, all in all it was a good time.
Actually you do have some rights. It's been 20 years, but in HS I published some undergorund newspapers (they'd probably be called zines nowadays). I was threatened by the HS authorities, and told to desist, at whcih point I went to the local University law library and got caselaw cites clearly demonstrating that I was within my rights and did not have to desist. basic cite should be searchable - look for armbands, as there was a case involving anti-war protestors at a HS wearing black armbands that made its way all the way to the US supreme court and was decided in the students favor.
On the other hand there are times when the school authorities are act "in loco parentis" and can restrict and discipline a student in much the same maneer that a parent is allowed.
IANAL.
non-repudiation can handle the "rewriting of history" problem. Simply refuse articles that haven't been signed electronically. Now a disreputable journal site could allow authors to recall a paper for errors and resubmit a redacted paper, but how is this different from the present review and edit process?
The problem with 60s punch card data is the specs may not be available which makes writing translation tools problematic. If e-journal submissions are required to use a published specification in order to be e-published and reviewed, presumably these specifications will stay available over time. this means tools will be written to allow continued access to legacy publications as specifications change.