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Mozilla 1.1 Hits The Street
asa writes: "Mozilla 1.1 has arrived!. This release has many new features including full-screen mode for Linux, Mac MathML support, a redesigned JavaScript Debugger, new window icons for the different Mozilla applications, view selection source, display HTML mail as plaintext, and much more. Along with all the new features, Mozilla 1.1 also contains many improvements to performance, stability, standards support, and web site compatibility. You can get Mozilla 1.1 by visiting the mozilla.org releases page or directly from ftp at ftp.mozilla.org. Now that 1.1 is out the door, the focus moves to 1.2 alpha, and beyond. If you're confused as to how all of these releases relate to each other, be sure to check out the Mozilla Roadmap and the community hub over at mozillaZine.org."
I love Mozilla, the browser and email client are awesome and so much better than anything else. But before it even finished starting it gave me to error messages about some DLL. Then enigmail is complaining at me too. And why are 2 mozilla shortcuts added to my desktop? A cool new feature: view selection source. You can select some text and view the source just for that piece of the page. And tabbed browsing still rocks. Control-click a link or after typing a URL in the location field to open it quickly in a new tab, or hit control-T to pop a new blank tab. I just wish you could control click on the links in your toolbar.
Check out the radial context menus or the mouse gestures. Look at edit->preferences->navigator->internet search, and edit->preferences->advanced->Scripts&Plugin s. And finally take a look at the preferences bar to quickly enable or disable certain options. These are always the first things I install with any new Mozilla, release or nightly.
karma capped
I think 1.1 fixes many of the glitches or bugs from 1.0, although it did have a glitch the first time I ran it. You might check out the forum at http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=2 415 to discuss any issues you had installing or running the new version.
However, uninstalling 1.0 doesn't remove your profile - all your preferences will remain and can be used with 1.1 without any problems.
Just make sure not to switch back and forth between 1.0 and 1.1 while using the same profile...
Try clicking "Get the Source" on the left side of the main Mozilla page, or follow this link.
They're also simultaneously working on a 1.0.1 branch. Mozilla 1.0.1 RC2 was released a time ago (while they were working on 1.1 as well), and is still the current 1.0.x build. Mozilla 1.1 does NOT succeed 1.0.1, as evident by the "RC 2" status. 1.0.x is simply a separate branch for stability, while 1.1, 1.2, etc is for new technology and features. I'm pretty sure they'll go on with a 1.1.x branch even after 1.2 is released as well.
In other words, it's not as simple as the Mozilla team moving from 0.9.x to 1.0 and proceeding to 1.1 and 1.2.
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Those of you who use the tabbed browsing feature in Mozilla (read: almost everyone!) may notice a change in "features" between Mozilla 1.0 and 1.1.
1 (copy and paste this into a new window, bugzilla doesn't allow links from Slashdot.)
When you have only one tab open, and you instinctively middle-click or Ctrl-W or whatever, your tab bar will disappear - even if you told Mozilla not to hide the tab bar when you only had one window open, with the preferences option.
This behaviour can be considered a feature or a bug - instead of the Close Tab button doing nothing or being disabled when there's one tab, the button now hides the bar. I told Mozilla never to do that! I want the tab bar there at all times!
The bug is at http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15919
Also, why do tabs now have to close left to right, prey tell? I open Slashdot in my first tab, read everything I want, and read the first page that loads (normally the first tab) and work my way through articles. With this setup, you will just get sent back to Tab 1 every time.
While I'm the first to say that monopolies are bad, I like the fact that the OSS community has banded together enough to make something of the scale of Mozilla, instead of being tied up in lots of little sub-projects.
I like the fact that Galeon exists, that K-Meleon exists, that Chimera exists - and because they're all based on Mozilla, they're all as good as each other at rendering web content. If they all started as projects from scratch then none of them would be anywhere _near_ as good as they are now.
Instead of a million ICQ clients out there that implement 80% of the functions, if we had one decent ICQ library that all the clients used, then they could all use that library (Yes, I know there a couple of libs that are getting there - there weren't when I looked a couple of months back.)
I think it's a great thing that there is a standard library (Gecko) for rendering web pages that other projects can implement and build on. While I don't want to suggest the stifling of competition, I don't want to see people wasting time developing an alternative to something that is the best there is, and that they can just grab and use.
With the addition of calendaring, Mozilla is almost in a position to take on the IE/Outlook combination. Who would have suggested that a year ago? Mozilla is more than just another in the sea of browsers.
There is a way to open tabs "in the background":
Preferences->Navigator->Tabbed_Browsing->Load_li nks_In_The_Background
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42. Easy. What is 32 + 8 + 2?
So long as you're happy to use tabs to hold your news sites (which most people love after about three days usage):
1) Open each site in a tab.
2) Click Bookmarks | Bookmark this group of tabs.
3) Place resulting bookmark on your personal toolbar.
Galeon 2 is under development but it's still not there. Come on, I really need a great browser for gnome2 :)
http://galeon.sourceforge.net/galeon2/
A theme that more closely matches the award winning Windows look-and-feel. :)
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mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.1.tar.gz can be had from giFT/OpenFT. Hash 41f7588955a35a0bafa63426eae04dc8.
"Oppression and harassment is a small price to pay to live in the land of the free." -- Montgomery Burns.
If you want popup killing (and ad killing, and lots of other nifty stuff), try The Proxomitron. Has worked pretty flawlessly for me (and bypass mode fixes things when it becomes overzealous). I need to spend some time learning how to selectively disable it though -- I don't mind ads on some sites (like /.).
For tabbed browsing, try MyIE2 or CrazyBrowser -- it's not a must for me so I haven't bothered trying either.
Of course, people will inevitably whine that Mozilla comes with all of this built in while you have to download add ons for IE. Which is amazingly hypocritical, since the traditional Unix mantra is that small programs that extend functionality are better than monolithic programs. Yes, I know Mozilla is extensible as well, but to bash IE for being extensible to include additional functionality is just bashing for bashing's sake.
Your complaint about Mozilla and the middle mouse button seems off. This is not a function of Mozilla - it's a function of your drivers. Tell your drivers to make middle click middle click instead of autoscroll, then Mozilla should treat it properly.
Use the net installer.
The Customizing mozilla page is also very useful. You can change nearly everything from there.
Customizing Mozilla
Get this theme. Very, very smooth and clean. Several amplitudes better than the default theme. It's surprising that Mozilla doesn't come with this supplied as a standard...
In Mozilla's Windows version 1.0, right-clicking on a link brought up the 'Open in New Tab' item at the top of the popup menu. With version 1.1, this is now the second item in the popup menu. If you liked the old way, have a look at this Google thread.
By closely observing Mozilla I/O behavior on Win32 platform, I conclude that Mozilla I/O design needs serious rework. As of now, Mozilla I/O uses enormous amount of handles (>2000) in a typical Win32 setup. I believe this is the major reason why Mozilla is that damn slow on Win32 platform.
Just take the file piemenu.js in mozilla/chrome/radialcontext/content and change this line:The timeout is fixed in 900 by default, you can make it lower.
While you are there you can find a lot of options, just don't be afraid to try.
Fh
You may find the User Agent Bar useful - http://uabar.mozdev.org/. It has several presets (Moz, NS7/6, IE6/5, NS4.7 and AOL, all with different versions and OSs) and you can enter your own if you want.
Have you tried "Edit->Fill In Form" from the main menu? That's where Mozilla keeps all of your saved form info. It works reasonably well most of the time, but it's not exactly intuative.
I remember reading somewhere that work was underway to make form auto-filling more intuative, similar to what IE does, but I don't know if any work has actually been done or not -- it may have just been talk.
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It's under the preferences somewhere . . . Just uncheck "Use Radial Thingamajiggers" or whatever. It's not quite the same thing as uninstalling, but it does the trick.
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At this rate you should save your bandwidth, and look for 1.2b tommorow night!
;-) and not 1.2b. Mozilla 1.1alpha, however, is right around the corner. Expect to see it sometime in the next couple of weeks.
Actually, not quite that soon
--Asa
it took them forever to reach 1.0 (although the 0.9 releases were already really good), but now they're releasing a 1.1 after only a short time
We branched for 1.0 around April 09. That day we began work on 1.1. Mozilla 1.1 was finished on August 26. That's more than 4 months of development.
We branched for 1.1 around August 05. That day we began work on Mozilla 1.2. We should be seeing a Mozilla 1.2alpha pretty soon.
--Asa
Try Jesse's Zap embeds bookmarklet. It's not perfect but I've come to depend on it. Just add the bookmarklet to your personal toolbar and whenever you visit a site with an annoying flash ad or java plugin just bonk on the personal toolbar link and the plugin gets zapped.
There are lots of great bookmarklets at Jesse's site. Take a look around and give some of them a try. I couldn't get by without them.
--Asa
type this into your textbox:
:)
chrome://communicator/locale/wallet/index.html
Fill in your form, and go whoopass
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozill a1.1/
If it's not there yet then it's not done yet. Check back later today.
--Asa
Unless, of course, you have a different idea in mind.
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Clean install doesn't touch your bookmarks and if you installed your plugins into your profile directory you'd be able to hold onto them (or just back up your plugins dir. if you're reading slashdot you should be able to do that).
--Asa
Yes, you do have to click and click and swipe.
If this is your big gripe about Mozilla then you're gonna love 1.1 because it works as you'd expect now.
--Asa
Some components, such as the HTML renderer, are *never* swapped to disk because they are used to render parts of the desktop, especially under XP. Of course the memory footprint for these compenents is 'hidden' under the umbrella of Kernel memory.
Moz 1.1 sits in about 32mb of ram under normal conditions. This can swell or even double if you've got a bunch of tabs open or are loading a huge, graphically intense page. Also, ram allocated to plugins like Flash, etc.. is listed as still belonging to Mozilla, so that figure can rise dramatically, depending on the webpage.
Windows 2000, for comparison's sake, sits in about 64 mb of ram. XP has a footprint that's about 128mb wide, but a lot of that does get cached out... especially the multimedia components that are otherwise active all the time. Since Winnt4 without IE 4 or 5 will comfortably operate in 16mb or ram or less, I can only assume that most of the ram needed for Win2k and Xp are used by services or components related to Intenet Explorer, Media Player, and in some cases, Office.
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I can answer one of your questions:
"Bookmark all as one bookmark" is available in 1.0, but is made more apparent in 1.1
In 1.0, when you bookmark a page that is part of bookmarks, you have to use "File Bookmark" and then check the box to bookmark them all.
In 1.1, there's now a separate bookmark all tabs option in bookmark menu.
Go to "Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Mouse gestures" and de-select all modifier keys (Ctrl, Alt, Shift). I have my mouse gesture button set to the right button, so all I need to do for "back" is "right button + left", which works great. If you hold down the right button without moving / gesturing, you'll get your normal context menu.
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What this means over the course of a year or so is a smaller, faster browser. Mozilla 1.0 was better in every way than Mozilla M18, but was much faster and actually had a smaller memory footprint.
Developers are looking out for bigger performance wins, but the incremental approach is producing results without stability tradeoffs.
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Try PrefBar over at XULplanet. It has exactly what you're looking for.
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