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Negative Refractivity for Optical Computing

zero_offset writes "This article in EE Times details Purdue's efforts to create a material with negative refractivity. One of the important results would be the ability to create optical computers due to the effect's tendency to amplify and focus light at wavelengths larger than the thickness of the nanowires used in the transmission system. Purdue's School of Electrical and Computer Engineering's Vladimir Shalaev says, "Using these plasmonic nanomaterials, we hope to directly manipulate light, guide it around corners with no losses and basically do all the fundamental operations we do with electronic circuits today, but with photons instead." Nanowires, surface plasmon polaritons, optical computers, nanoscale metamaterials, unnatural refractivity -- what's not to like?" We did a story on the first material known to have a negative index of refraction last year.

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  1. not at all by dollargonzo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    what this means is that u can bend the light BEYOND the normal. it is NOT reflecting off the surface of the material, but rather entering the material and reversing direction within it. (iMHO)

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  2. Learnt a new word.... by marko123 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I must have been out of the negative refractivity thread of modern physics, but I love this word...

    "They had free drinks that night. Trevor was absolutely PLASMONIC. I mean... shit, man! he almost had a negative refractive index. Lucky we got him in a taxi when we did"

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  3. Re:Remember your physics by dollargonzo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    wouldn't that mean you would have to FORCE electrons through the material? that seems like a bad consequence.

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  4. Re:Remember your physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It doesn't mean the velocity is faster than 'c'. It only means the light beam is deflected towards the opposite direction ( angle of refraction > 90 deg )

  5. Some Claims are absurd by slashnot007 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Much of what is claimed in the article and comapnion article is wrong, no doubt distorted through the prism of some "science writer" or attempt to dumb it down. For exampe, you cant focus light to a perfect point or even less that the wavelength of light.
    the ways one can escape these limits in a semantic sense is that you can change the index of refration of the media so the wavelength is shorter than in vaccum, but that's not really accomnlishing the goal. Alternatively, near field or or ther diffraction effects can confine a light field to a region smaller the wavelength, but it cant propagate in vacuum/air that way.

    likewise the claim you could make a perfecly flat focusing lens by combining poistive and negative materials is pretty hilarious too. You can do that right now with conventional positive only materials. (example take two plano confave lenses of high index material, and fill the space between them with water. voila!).

    on the other hand you could do a lot of really interesting stuff with negative index materials that is harder to put in laymans terms. one example, the speed of light might be faster than in vacuum.

  6. Re:Remember your physics by dracken · · Score: 2, Informative

    Negative refractive index does not mean light is moving faster than C. According to Snell's law the refractive index of any material with respect to vacuum = velocity of light in vacuum / velocity of light in material.

    So for dense thingies refractive index greater than 1. Eg glass. Now the refractive index of material A with respect to material B is Vel in B / Vel in A. So light travelling from Inside a glass slab to outside would think it encountered refractive index less than 1.

    Now negative refractive index mean negative velocity ?? I dunno. Refractive index can also be calculated from Sine (incidence angle) / Sine (refracted angle). The only way to get negative refractive index is if Refracted angle greater than 180. (Remember high school trigonometry. Sine is negative only in the third and fourth quadrant). Now refracted angle greater than 180 would mean that light has suffered total internal reflection. So a negative refractive index material would behave like a mirror and not a lens. (hence giving negative velocity - velocity is a vector, has magnitude as well as direction). I smell a rat in the article.

    -Dracken

  7. Re:Moore's Law by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2
    "Well, there goes Moore's law out the window."

    Moore's Law describes an increase in transistor counts.

    I hope you are referring to the idea that traditional microprocessor design would be obsolteted by 'optical computing' thus halting the advancement of traditional microelectronics, thus stopping the advancement of transistor counts as opposed to somehow having transistors being used in 'optical computing.'

  8. Plasmonic Nanomaterials by geophile · · Score: 2
    Damn, that sounds cool!

    Plasmonic nanomaterials

    Plasmonic nanomaterials

    Plasmonic nanomaterials

    Now I'm sorry I went into software. I really, really wish I could tell people that I was into plasmonic nanomaterials.

  9. Re:Moore's Law by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 2

    Of course, with the computational power that will come of this, maybe we will be satisfied for a while. Somebody once said "Nobody will need more than 640 k of RAM" Right?

    I'm not saying that more power wouldn't have many uses, but it always bothers me when people quote the "640K" line about modern computers. Imagine if Bill Gates, living in three bedroom house, had said "Nobody needs more than three bedrooms." And then now, living in a forty bedroom house, he says "Nobody needs more than forty bedrooms."

    The latter, I think, rings a lot more true than the former. In most endeavors, diminishing returns can kick in after a while. It's the same reason we can't get away from the x86 architecture: There are more important issues than raw performance.

  10. Meaning? by teece · · Score: 2

    I thought the index of refraction was defined as:

    n = (speed of light in vacuum)/(speed of light in medium),

    or n = c/cmed

    Now, convenctional wisdom and all modern science says c is always the bigger value, so n is always >= 1, but positive. How the heck does one get a negative refractivity? Niether of these quantities should be signed, let alone oppositely signed, right? What is meant by negative refractivity?

    Tim

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    1. Re:Meaning? by morie · · Score: 2

      It happens when the light goes backwards.... :-)

      cmed < 0

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    2. Re:Meaning? by Abcd1234 · · Score: 2

      The use of the term "negative" regarding a material's refractive index is really semantic. Basically, as described by Snell's Law, light bends toward the surface normal as it crosses the boundary of a material. However, materials with a "negative" refractive index have the opposite effect: they cause the light to bend away from the surface normal.

    3. Re:Meaning? by guybarr · · Score: 3, Informative

      I thought the index of refraction was defined as:

      n = (speed of light in vacuum)/(speed of light in medium),


      another definition, IIRC, is c/sqrt(mu*epsilon)

      mu = permeability
      epsilon = permittivity

      both are coeeficients of the linear response of meterials to the EM field.

      now, if the linear response of a material to EM fields is complex, I guess you can have negative (or imaginary) n.

      imaginary means exponential decay or growth, BTW, but of course in the case of growth the material stops responding linearly at some point, thus changing the dependance.

      IIAC, negative n does not really mean the speed of light reverses .

      Now, convenctional wisdom and all modern science says c is always the bigger value, so n is always >= 1

      AFAIK you're right in saying c is always the bigger value, however there exist superluminal photons , which have phase velocity higher than c.

      This is not, again AFAIK, related to the response medium but to other quantum phenomenas.

      The universe can do some weird, convoluted vodoo ...

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    4. Re:Meaning? by wyldeling · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your definitions are correct, but incomplete. The speed of light, c, (and cmed for that matter) are defined as c^2 = e*u (electric permittivity of the substance times the magnetic permeability of the substance). In other words, the speed of light is determined by how well the substance it is travelling through can be influenced by electric and magnetic fields.


      To complete the definition:


      n^2 = c^2/cmed^2 = (e0 * u0)/(e * u).


      (The zeroes indicate that they are in free space.)


      Now to the questions: Negative refractivity should be impossible. Both e and u are positive quantities, and if they weren't, the square would make them at the minimum postive imaginary numbers. The problem is that e and u are only scalars if you are working with the prefered direction of the substance. Otherwise, they are 2nd order tensors (3x3 matrices). (e0 and u0 are always scalars.) I am not sure how this would influence the outcome w/o doing the math. But, it may allow for this type of effect.



    5. Re:Meaning? by Drakula · · Score: 2

      FYI: The real part of the refractive index for metals is, in general, less than 1.

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    6. Re:Meaning? by naasking · · Score: 2

      now, if the linear response of a material to EM fields is complex, I guess you can have negative (or imaginary) n.

      If n=c/sqrt(mu * epsilon) as you suggest, then negative n would simply result from the negative roots of the sqrt. No fancy gymnastics with complex roots necessary.

  11. Re:Moore's Law by CProgrammer98 · · Score: 2

    Man, that's an awful lot of typos for someone in their 30's !

    (vacuum, designs, stagnant, "whether or" "of it" obsolete)

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  12. Oh, goody! by KC7GR · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ha! New words to play with. Let's see here...

    'Surface plasmonic polaritrons...' Nah, too long. Let's condense it down to something like this...

    "Give your laundry that FRESH, SPARKLING, NEGATIVE REFRACTIVE INDEX with Maytag's NEW SURFACE PLASMONITRON!! Yes, you too can have your clothes looking like they got lost in a physics lab for a month, AND REVERSE THEIR POLARITY, all in three easy cycles!!!"

    (Read all warning labels before use. Not recommended for cashmere, poodle fur, or llama wool. Batteries most definitely NOT included, minor assembly and Ph.d required. This product is not available in Pakistan).

    Ok... who else wants to contribute? ;-)

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  13. So what exactly do you get by IPFreely · · Score: 2
    It sounds cool and all, but what do you get with photon logic over electron logic?
    Is it faster? Cheaper? Less heat? More Compact? Some of these but not all of these? What do you lose by switching to photon?

    It does sound like good stuff, but what exactly is the good?

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  14. Re:And when we're done.... by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 2

    um... it seems they're made of metal. So, shouldn't be any more nasty to the environment than, say, a few bottle caps. Not that bottle caps are good for the environment, but wouldn't it be more effective to ban, say, styrofoam than plasmonic materials?

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  15. Bend light=invisible? by phorm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If they can fiddle with light and directly manipulate it, does this mean they could possibly simulate some form of "invisibility". E.g. bending light completely around an object, so that the object no longer refracts light itself, but is essentially hidden within a sphere of redirected light?

    I suppose the current theory applies only to light within some conduit of sorts, like fibre optics, but it would be cool if it had other such uses


    I'm not a physacists, so feel free to critisize, but it's just a thought... direct manipulation of light could be a powerful thing.

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    "Using these plasmonic nanomaterials, we hope to directly manipulate light, guide it around corners with no losses and basically do all the fundamental operations we do with electronic circuits today, but with photons instead," said Shalaev.
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  16. New words a boon to Star Trek writers! by StefanJ · · Score: 2
    I figure the producers of Enterprise should be able to get five episodes worth of plot points out of the words "plasmonic" and "polariton."

    Stefan

    1. Re:New words a boon to Star Trek writers! by Aexia · · Score: 2

      When plamonic matter interacts with light inside a polariton-lined canister, it allows you to go back in time because you're going negative the speed of light.

      Brilliant!

  17. Re:Quantum Cryptology by Abcd1234 · · Score: 2

    Umm... what does this have to do with Quantum Cryptography?

  18. Re:Stealth materials by Morphine007 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One interesting application of this might be zero reflectivity materials

    now how would that work anyway... if you painted a basketball with "zero reflectivity" paint, you would no longer see the ball, because no light would bounce from it to your eyes, but you would also not be able to see anything behind it... so what would you see.. .or perceive??

  19. Who said anything about FTL travel? by slashnot007 · · Score: 2, Informative
    No need to get technical, but it is in fact possible to have qauntum probability waves exiting a resonator before the entered it. (No i'm not making this up, it was published in Nature two years ago.) There may be not infomation content is transmitted. Recently it has been proposed that gravity waves may be faster than electromagnetic waves (i.e. light).

    but in regards to the article, the final comment was sheer speculation. THe existence of a negative index suggests that it might be possible to create a composte substance with an index less than one yielding an electomagnetic propagation media with a speed faster than vacuum.

  20. "unnatural" materials? by iabervon · · Score: 2

    Today on slashdot, we have a nanomaterial that focuses light backwards, and also a nanomaterial that can attach to a flat, clean, dry surface well enough to support 200 lbs with a few square inches (using forces thought to only have effects at microscopic scales). The former is found only in labs and is brand new, and the latter is found in gardens and is older than humanity.

    It's sort of interesting that the article refers to the negative refraction materials as "unnatural". Nature has been doing nanotech for millions of years now. It's pretty likely that, if these materials turn out to be good for anything that occurs in nature, they can be found there.

  21. Re:Moore's Law by timeOday · · Score: 2
    As I see it, there are two classes of problems: 1) problems for which there's some clever, efficient algorithm (like sorting and serching), i.e. essentially easy problems and 2) problems that are not easy, where the only known option is to try all the solutions and see which work. There is a great divide between these two classes of problems.

    Computers are now fast enough to do the easy problems comfortably, even on quite large datasets. These are the ones people have in mind when they say computers are "fast enough."

    But computers are no where near fast enough to solve large problems of the second kind, and it doesn't seem that they ever will be in the forseeable future. A problem of this type might be, "what lossless compression/decompression algorithm under 1000K in length has the highest average compression on a given sample dataset?" It's easy to write a program to solve this problem, but awfully hard to wait for it to finish.

    I think we're falling into the gap between easy and hard problems. We can do easy problems easily, but have no feasible way to approach the hard problems.

  22. Retro Sci Fi by sysadmn · · Score: 2

    plasmonic nanomaterials
    Heck, that even sounds cool.

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  23. What negative refraction means by zero_offset · · Score: 3, Informative
    For those of you trying to figure out what "negative refraction" actually implies, the article at the URL below has a pretty easy-to-understand explanation of the key characteristics.

    03/2001 photonics.com article

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  24. Re:Put this bitch into reverse! Beep Beep! by Myco · · Score: 2

    Is that an optical CPU core in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?