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Why You Don't Have a Broadband Connection

blandthrax writes "I ran across this article on The New Republic. The long and short of it indicates that the reason why almost 90% of Americans don't have a broadband connection is because current broadband providers are preventing other ISP's from entering the fray. The result: higher prices for broadband connections and a general lack of innovation. An interesting read full of good details. And, as usual, we learn that countries such as Japan and Korea are far ahead of the US in terms of innovation and technological saturation."

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  1. Hassles... by FuzzyMan45 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I agree with the post, havent read the article yet, but...

    We work at a small ISP that used to (try) to offer DSL service, it worked for a few buisness clients, but the problem is, we are in california, and our telco is SBC/Pacbell/Devil-Company. It was so much of a hassle to deal with, and also too expensive. I don't think we made much profit on that deal at all...pacbell were whores. We ditched that pretty quick.

  2. This contributed to the demise of Sprint's ION ... by doomdog · · Score: 4, Informative

    Part of the reason that Sprint canceled their ION service was that the local telcos were screwing them over when it came to provisioning customer lines. When I had ION installed, the local telco told me it would take them 30 days to install a "conditioned" line that was suitable for ION....

    Of course, when I called the telco the next day to inquire about their own DSL service, the "conditioned line" could be installed the next day....

    In the end, it did take 3 weeks to get ION installed, and it was far better service than anything that DSL could provide.... I really miss ION :(

  3. UK CHIX ARE ASS-UGLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative
  4. Japan : common misconception by Lovejoy · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's a very common misconception that Japan is way out ahead of the US in the absorption of technology into the culture. (and that's NOT what the article says, by any means) Anyone who has lived outside of Tokyo/Osaka (and probably those folks as well) can tell you that Japan is NOT the leader of the pack in this respect. DSL (YahooBB) just came available in Mito, which is a small city north of Tokyo. Compare this to a comparable size city, Lubbock TX, which has had DSL and cable BB for years and years.

    The computer lab in the school where I taught from 1996 - 1998 had 286 machines running Windows 3.1 They kept applications on floppies. The machines weren't networked at all. Schools started getting internet access after I left. The teachers were absolutely CLUELESS re computers. Most of them used wapuros (word processors) or nothing at all.

    As the article mentions regarding BB: the NTT monopoly held Japan back for a long time, but BB is finally catching on.

    There are lots of neat GADGETS in Japan, but proliferation of computing is slower than in the US. In the "real world," not standing Akihabara (an electronics district) or at Shinjuku station (with a video screen on the entire side of a building) Japan seems much less technologically advanced.

  5. Re:In the UK by superpeach · · Score: 2, Informative

    I hope you have been here and told them you want broadband (you have to phone an ISP, cant register interest online). If you live anywhere near the EMROTHW exchange then it is really important that you do this becuase I want broadband too ;).
    BT seem to not bother adding all the registered people to the count tho, not very quickly anyway.

  6. Re:In Canada by RobinH · · Score: 3, Informative

    Broadband is definitely cheaper in Canada (average $40 USD per month in the U.S., average $40 CDN in Canada), but Canadians are still not as connected as Americans.

    It's not like we have a huge amount of choice in Canada though. I had this choice: Cogeco for a cable modem, or Bell for DSL. I wanted a DSL, but when I signed up with Bell, they did a line test and said my phone line wasn't good enough quality. That left me with a cable modem, or satellite I suppose, but to me that's no option.

    The fact is, even though I can choose from dozens of long distance providers, I still can't choose from different cable internet, or DSL providers unless they run a new wire to my house. The last mile is very monopolistic. Perhaps wireless will change that, but I'm still waiting.

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  7. Scary. by SlashChick · · Score: 5, Informative

    "In Virginia, when one small town, Bristol, wanted to set up its own broadband system, Verizon lobbyists persuaded the pliant, Republican-controlled state legislature to pass a law prohibiting any town from doing so."

    I found that quote very disturbing. Fortunately, I read more on the subject and found out that Bristol won a lawsuit that overturned the decision. The state is appealing the decision (imagine that), but for now, Bristol has set a precedent that says that municipalities can set up their own broadband service. It's insane that Bristol even has to go to these lengths, but at least they won.

  8. Synopsis by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Informative
    (Because it's not like anybody will read the article before spouting off):
    • Residential broadband prices are rising rather than falling.
    • There are 15 ISP for every 100,000 diallup customers, but only 2 ISPs for every 100,000 broadband customers.
    • Broadband ISPs are 95% owned by cable and phone companies (directly or indirectly).
    • Copper and cable are poor long term solutions, but there's no incentive to put in fiber-to-the-door.
    • Instead of trust-busting, the FCC has gone for "deregulation", which has just allowed the Baby Bells to deny their capacity to other providers.

    To synopsize the synopsis, we've screwed regarding broadband. But then, anyone that's been keeping even a casual eye on broadband for the past couple of years already knew that. The Baby Bell shutout this year was just the last nail in the coffin.

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  9. Re:Broadband not in my area by modecx · · Score: 2, Informative

    You might check with other ISPs in your area, some of them may have an agreement with QWEST, such that QWEST provides the DSL loop to you, then to your ISP.
    The loop charge is $29/month for 712Kbps in my area, and my ISP is pretty reasonable at $25/month.

    It's more expensive than cable and plain 'ol QWEST service, but it suits me well--my ISP is the type that's very non-restrictive, I can have servers or whatever, and they don't care. They have mutiple DS3s to a level3 backbone, and techs that know what to do when some asshole puts a rogue DHCP server on the ethernet segment.

    In all, a very good comprimise.

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  10. Re:What a crock of shit. by gokubi · · Score: 4, Informative
    His father is a damned industry whore as well.

    From FAIR.org:

    The AOL/Time Warner deal also showcased [Michael] Powell's nonchalant approach to personal conflicts of interest; he took part in the merger decision despite the fact that his father, Secretary of State Colin Powell, was one of AOL's directors, with lucrative stock options in the company.

    Colin made $35M from his stock sales after the merger that his son approved. I wonder if the Powell's had a party when the "death" tax was repealed?
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  11. Re:free market, my ass. by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 3, Informative
    If a company burns millions of dollars to roll out fiber optic cable in a city, is that infrastructure a "public resource?"

    No, but the streets and such that they need to block off and dig up to lay the cable are. Since the government that owns the streets in question probably doesn't want to have lots of companies taking turns digging up the streets to run cables, they pick one and give them a monopoly...

    Therein lies the problem - at that point, the public (by proxy through their government) has given away a resource (path/land to lay cable and permission to block traffic temporarily in the process) to a single company. Other companies might be willing to compete, but are not allowed to lay their own cables.

    Laws requiring the granted monopoly to share their cables in exchange for the use of public space to run their cables is intended as a sort of "patch" to make up for this. It seems kind of kludgy to me, but I can't think of a better solution in the circumstances. This is why it upsets people when the granted monopoly is allowed to exclude competitors.

  12. San Francisco status by blakestah · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here in SF, I have one option for broadband at home - ADSL. Cable modems are beginning to show up, but are not available for me yet. All other options (other than leeching off others 802.11b) are more costly.

    The cost, per month, is $50, from PacBell. Of this, $40 is the rental fee to use the same line they had already installed for my phone. Due to government regulation, anyone can be my ISP, as long as they pay PacBell $40 per month to rent the line. This process effectively killed all competition, since the ISP margin is razor-thin, whereas PacBell is raking it in. Now, the ADSL works fine, outages are rare, and service is pretty good (excepting the slow time to get connected after ordering). But if the line rental were $10/month (or even $20/month - about what local phone service costs), I would have something that approached the value I receive. Remember - this uses the SAME LINE that my phone uses.

    Recently I visited Japan. The hotel had free high speed access with DHCP. This wasn't even a costly hotel. It is seemingly ubiquitous there. And the blame in the US is a complete lack of appropriate government regulation on the people who own the lines.

    The funny thing is, I signed up for DSL 3 years ago, and got a static IP address. Recently I moved, and now I have to use PPPoE - for the same price. That is right, after three years, they offer me worse DSL service for the same price. Something is rotten in Denmark.

  13. Someone FINALLY understands!!! by extrarice · · Score: 2, Informative

    I work at an independant ISP in northern California. We offer broadband DSL, using SBC's DSLAMS. DSL is distance sensitive. If a customer is too far out from the DSLAM, a repeater (RTCLLI) is necessary to keep the signal clean. Part of our agreement with SBC that allows us to use their DSLAMS and sell DSL is that we can't use the repeaters. If we do, all traffic becomes property of SBC. So, if a potential customer is too far out for a direct connection, but is in the range of the repeater, we can't service the customer. They must go with SBC. Can't tell you how much that sucks.

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  14. Re:regulation... by jgalun · · Score: 2, Informative
    The New Republic is not, repeat, not a conservative magazine. It used to be a very liberal magazine, now it is what they call "neo-liberal." Neo-liberal politics amount to, roughly:

    Support for government intervention in the economy, with a recognition that the government needs to correct free market mistakes, NOT get rid of the free market.

    Support for environmental protection.

    Concerned with race relations, and supporting some economic measures to help overcome America's history of racism, but strongly opposed to racial-politics (like Al Sharpton's) and skeptical of simple race-based schemes (like affirmative action).

    Support for a strong American foreign policy. In other words, America is right to have a strong military and ignore European concerns, because America's foreign policy is in fact more moral and correct than Europe's.

    I could go on, but you get the idea. In many ways, The New Republic has shifted along with the ascendance of the Democratic Leadership Council's in the Democratic party.

    The similarities between neo-conservatives (who came first) and neo-liberals are obvious - strong foreign policy, willingness to criticize the extremists on their own side, fondness for McCain. That's how the term neo-liberal got invented.

  15. Usual for Virginia by edremy · · Score: 3, Informative
    One classic (non-tech) example. Our former (idiot*) governor had exactly one idea his entire term: cut the car tax. It was all he cared about.

    One county near to me watched its revenues crash to the point where they couldn't pay teachers or policemen. So they voted to reinstitute a car tax to keep them solvent. Gilmore went out of his way to try and get rid of the county government. But hey- he cut taxes! What more do you need?

    *You know you're a moron when the RNC fires your ass after only a year. Took him almost nine months to find another job.

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  16. $30/month for 512kb/s by SHEENmaster · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am getting 512kb/s for $30 a month. It's only $20 for 256kb/s. I am using Charter cable, powered by HSA Corp. The only other choice is bellsouth DSL (BLECH).

    I can run a server through it (here) and connect as many computers as I want directly to it.

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