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.Com Millionaires: Where are they now?

Sivar writes "They came pitching gee-whiz business plans and painting visions of integrated platforms, enabling technologies, and wizardry beyond compare. They created billions in wealth that seemed built on--and that all too often evaporated into--thin air. More than thirty former .com millionaires, what they were, and what they are now are on Fortune.com. One on sabbatical, one awaiting a prison sentence, there are some interesting transitions some have had."

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  1. This is fucked up! by red5 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From the article.
    Patrick Naughton, 37
    Then: Infoseek
    Now: Software development
    This former Infoseek EVP pleaded guilty in 2000 to crossing state lines with the intent to have sex with a minor he met in an Internet chat room. To avoid jail time, he agreed to help the FBI develop software programs to catch Internet pedophiles and other sexual predators.


    Does anybody else find it disturbing that not only did they (FBI) let a pedophile off the hook but they also let him design their system for catching pedophiles. Not only is he free to rape children, but because he designed the system he knows how to avoid detction also. Great job FBI I feel really safe knowing you're there to protect my children.
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  2. Now: Harvard Business School by kasperd · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Joe Park:
    • Then: Kozmo.com
    • Now: Harvard Business School
    I never heard of Joe Park or kozmo.com, but It does sound like this person finally found out there was something he should have learned before starting his adventure.
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  3. commercial failures by octalgirl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For anyone familiar with Internet before the dot-com stampede, it seemed a little odd that new companies were spending fortunes creating television commercials that rivaled long standing successful companies like Pepsi and Budweiser. The Internet companies that were (and remain) successful got there by word-of-mouth - on the Internet, for people savvy enough to be on the Internet. Companies like Yahoo and Amazon didn't branch into television ads until they had a strong foothold. Companies like Id software, still don't advertise (or very little) on TV, they don't need to. The e-Toys commercials were amazing, and when I first saw them I thought 'How can they do that? They must have spent a fortune on that.' Then there was the Super Bowl that was blanketed with dot-com advertising, the most expensive of ads. Years later now we know. They set up shop in cyber space, then marketed to brick and mortar consumers. They created an imaginary business model built on speculation and pipe dreams. Investors lost fortunes. They only legacy they left was a recipe for a fool-hardy business plan that we can learn NOT to follow.

  4. Where are they now? Indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Westpress (UK) has a great article showing the haves and have-nots in the whole Internet bubble. Very interesting read.

    It really shows you that sometimes you should just leave well enough alone.

  5. Where did all the money GO? by Kredal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    OK, so Joe Schmo gets a bunch of investors interested in a harebrained plan, scoops up millions of dollars from them, and then loses the money.

    Where did it go? SOMEONE must have gotten rich off of the dot-com craze and subsequent bust... was it hardware manufacturers who provided all of the infrastructure for the failed-from-the start companies? Or was it the grocery store down the street, where all of the free (for employees) food and soda was bought? Who was the final filter point for all of the dot-com money?

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    1. Re:Where did all the money GO? by Hanno · · Score: 5, Interesting

      he people selling real products to the .com companies got rich

      Not quite, they just became part of the bubble. A number of these suppliers are now struggling because they...

      1.) delivered expensive products to .COMs and then didn't get their money when suddenly all these .COMs went bankrupt one after another at more or less the same time.

      (Also don't forget that many hardware products have a small profit margin despite being expensive, so that the manufacturer gets some profit when being paid, but loses a lot more when not being paid.)

      2.) had to grow to follow the bubble - these companies increased staff, production output, products stocked in their warehouses etc. and now are too large for the remaining market after the burst.

      That's one major reason why Telecom suppliers, server manufacturers, consulting firms and other suppliers to .COM companies are now firing staff by the thousands.

      3.) and both 1 and 2 lead to a loss of stock value of those companies that are listed at the stock market, which can also create a shortage of cash and kill a company even if it was quite able to survive after 1 and 2. But the psychology of the stock market is completely different issue.

      So to sum up, everyone who did well because of the internet bubble is having problems now. Quite a few of those companies were also going belly-up because they suddenly were too big after their .COM clients were gone.

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  6. How about our own ".com^H^H^Horg" millionare? by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just wondering, how are our own .com^H^H^Horg millionares doing? How about it, CmdrTaco|Hemos?

  7. Were there any real business men on the list ? by Raiford · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The list seems to contain artist, actors, pedophiles and assorted other misplaced souls that were trying to run businesses. Classic cases of people doing something for which they had no talent. The difference was that any wild idea at the time could generate a considerable initial return but without any business savvy could not be sustained. Most of the .coms were never viable in the first place and were staffed with people who had no real talent or experience in technology areas. Additionally many if not most didn't have the academic credentials to foster a sound technological base for business.

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  8. A bit one sided... by Mulletproof · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A fact: In business, there are always more failures than success (80/20 rule). The dot-bust is simply a more spectacular example of that. It seems however, this article "about millionaires" seems to want to spin the Fortune story in the favor of the failures and not the success. Bezos comes to mind even though I love to poke fun at him (not to mention his employment practices are damn shady). Despite being ventured capitaled to the hilt he is still alive and kicking. There are others too. I know bitching and moaning about the dot-bust is popular, but even it's had it's moments.

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  9. What about Eric S Raymond? by gnugnugnu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From the Archives
    http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.p l?sid=99/1 2/10/0821224&mode=nested&tid=98

    I would be very interested to know how Mr Open Source himself, Guns not Gnu's, Eric S. Raymond is doing.

    What of the paper millionares created by VA Software, formerly VA Linux, it is still parent company of Slashdot right?

    Surely Slashdot could source some insights from their parent company, or perhaps an interview from ESR himself.

  10. Has anyone seen a documentary called startup.com? by symbolic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I watched this with an assoiate a few months ago, and I have to say that it really changed my impression of the .com gold rush. Mainly, it left me with a sense of hope that there were actually people out there with good ideas, reasonable business models, and the potential to make some honest money. What really impressed me is that the three guys who ran the startup to its final day didn't walk away with a pile of cash - they walked away with next to NOTHING. They didn't pay themselves exorbitant salaries to "play" CEO like those in most of these startups, they invested the money building the infrastructure that, if sustainable on its own merits, would provide the means for reward down the road - at which point they'd have actually earned it

    "Then why bother?" you may ask. Well, there are a few concepts that don't seem to get much attention these days: integrity, humility, and reality. The guys that ran this company may not have walked away with money, but they despite their disagreements, they did their best. Above all, they earned my respect.

    I'd encourage those who haven't seen this to do so.

  11. The 7am.com story by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was one of those "bright entrepreneurs" who built an online business (7am.com)with great traffic and an even better future.

    Unlike so many of the flash-in-the-pan wondersites that no longer exist, it wasn't built on millions of dollars in VC funding and didn't have large offices filled with geeks on scooters or a carpark filled with Porsches and BMWs.

    Started in 1997, it was very much a "one-man band" for two years, during which time it grew from a good idea into one of the most widely syndicated web-based news services on the Net.

    Getting it from zero to two million hits a day by 1999 meant working 18-19 hours per day, every day for two straight years and living on the smell of an oily rag.

    Suffice to say that I recall quite vividly the day my eardrum burst while I was typing up a breaking news story. I'd gotten an inner ear infection but was too busy to go to the doctor.

    I should also point out that 7am.com didn't have the benefit of being US-based. Instead, it was located in rural New Zealand -- half a world away from its target marketplace.

    This meant that my workday started at around 11pm and finished at 6pm-7pm the next day.

    It also meant that I had to use sweat-equity and innovation to replace a large workforce and lots of capital. 7am.com was a real groundbreaker in the area of syndicated news content on the Web and to this day continues to deliver content through a network of over 200,000 websites.

    In 1999 I was approached by a group of local (NZ) "suits" who wanted to buy in and take 7am.com to the NASDAQ.

    Remember that by this time the webserver was tracking over 2 million hits per day, the syndication network was about 125,000 third-party websites in size, I had regular advertisers, and Nielsens/NetRatings had rated 7am.com as being more popular than news.bbc.co.uk, CNNfn, Playboy.com and a raft of others.

    So, at the peak of the dot-com boom, what would you pay for a site with these respectible figures?

    Unfortunately I didn't have a whole lot of other suitors banging down my door and I knew that in order to maintain or improve my position in the market I had to pour more capital into the operation -- so beggars can't be choosers. (The lack of other investors was/is a sad indictment on the state of the VC industry in New Zealand).

    I ended up accepting a figure that was (in US$ terms) just in the six-figure bracket.

    After paying back the money I'd borrowed to start up the business, some tax, and catching up on the mortgage I was left with just over $10,000 in cash.

    I was also left with 34% of the company but I was promised that that I could now slow down my own pace of work, take weekends off and maybe even enjoy a vacation.

    Most importantly to me was the promise that the investors would bring skilled business management to the enterprise.

    Now I'm the first person to put up my hand and admit that I'm not, and don't aspire to be, a great business manager. I'm an "ideas guy" and I'm also quite competent at marketing -- but crunching numbers and brokering multi-million dollar deals just doesn't spin my wheels I'm afraid.

    So here I was -- my bills were up to date, I had a few thousand in my back pocket, I had 34% of (at the time) the world's most widely syndicated web-based news service, and the future looked rosey!

    What's more, an independent valuation of the business (made in 1999/2000) suggested that it was worth at least US$40 million

    Unfortunately I soon learned that the promises of the new investors were pretty hollow and that they figured they knew the online news business better than me -- despite the fact that none of them had any experience in this field whatsoever.

    I was working harder than ever and while everyone else was partying, I had to do 36-hours straight during the millennium eve/day celebrations so as to provide the site with around-the-clock coverage. That promised vacation never eventuated either.

    I also gave up trying to provide input and direction because what had been a dynamic, exciting, innovative operation with ultra-low overheads became just another corporate monolith.

    By mid-2000 I resigned my positions as director, board-member and news director -- it was simply too frustrating.

    To cut a long story short -- I still have a 34% interest in 7am.com, the company continues to trade and remains a significant player in the syndicated news-content market -- but I've never seen another penny.

    This annoys the snot out of me because I have since had a number of
    good ideas but can't afford to fund them.

    So, if anyone wants to buy my 34% of 7am.com for a song -- just drop me a line and we'll talk. I've got better things to do with the money than leave it tied up in a large, slow-moving corporate beast.

    1. Re:The 7am.com story by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You were correct about your marketing skills. I bet a lot of other dummies like myself read the whole thing only to find out it's just an advertisement

      Oh yea, like I expected to get dozens of emails from fat-cat Slashdot readers eager buy up my shareholding!

      Perhaps I should have put a smiley on the end for those who are irony-challenged?