Australian Open Source Awards

mge writes "Andrew Tridgell has won the Special Achievement Award for his work on Samba, the seamless file and print service for SMB/CIFS (Windows) clients, at the Australian UNIX and Open Systems User Group's inaugural Australian Open Source Awards. Aussie, Aussie, OI OI OI." And an "Oi, Oi" to you too.

Comments

That's fine.

[Anonymous Coward]

But one question that comes to mind.

Who do they thank during the acceptance speech?

Re:That's fine.

[ni5mo]

And thats pronounced: Ozzie. NOT Ossie.

Re:That's fine.

[Snookmz]

Aparently all his sources were blacklisted.

Good to see.

[Error-404NotFound]

It's nice to see open source authors getting recognition, keep up the good work boys.

Re:Good to see.

[Error-404NotFound]

didn't mean it like that... you know what I ment, "boys" is a generic term... in fact, in the english language there is no neuter plural term for a group of people so "guys" is the correct term. so all you "guys" get off my back!

Re:Good to see.

[Anonymous Coward]

YHBT. YHL. HAND.

Re:Good to see.

[Anonymous Coward]

ENG101. ENROLL.

Re:Good to see.

[darqchild]

Samba was a lifesaver to me as I migrated my home network from windows to linux, as i needed one M$ machine on the lan. Now that i don't run windows anymore, i still have a samba machine, so my parent's can use my printer. I would have to say that Samba has been one of the most important apps i have ever used! I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to the samba project, for making my life easier!

010101

[los furtive]

Does this mean 0i Oi Oi = 21?

Re:010101

[Anonymous Coward]

Shut up.

Re:010101

[Anonymous Coward]

I couldn't agree more. Fucking moron.

Re:010101

[Anonymous Coward]

you faggot-ass "trolls" have no sense of humor. wipe the mancum off of your chin and go get a life.

Re:010101

[Anonymous Coward]

Multiply *that* by two and you get 42 .... !

Congratulations

[ogre2112]

Samba is great stuff... Congrats Andrew!

I would've won...

[Anonymous Coward]

But a dingo ate my project!

I bet the Bloomin Onion that the winner gets is mighty tasty, too.

Re:I would've won...

[Anonymous Coward]

I have no f*cking idea what you just said.

If you were to even listen to an australian you would learn very quickly that this kind of drivel that you would pass off as being australian slang is anything but.

Forgive me if I appear mildly insulted by your arrogance, but people like you really give me the shits.

Re:I would've won...

[Anonymous Coward]

Gosh, someone isn't able to laugh at the American stereotypes of Australia. I bet the episode of the Simpsons where they visit Australia made you really angry.

"A dingo ate my project" is a play on the phrase "maybe a dingo ate your baby" which was used as a joke in an episode of Seinfeld. That's based on the line "The dingo's got my baby!" from "A Cry in the Dark" and was said by Meryl Streep.

The "Bloomin Onion" was a joke based on the chain of steak houses here called "Outback Steakhouse." It has that whole commercialized Australian theme going on, so lots of Kangaroos, Fosters, etc. The "Bloomin Onion" is this deep fried onion thing they serve as an appetizer.

Anyway, don't take things so seriously. Just throw another shrimp on the barbie. G'day mate.

Re:I would've won...

[Anonymous Coward]

That would of made sense if anyone in Australia had ever heard of the Outback Steakhouse chain but it is only those Aussies who have been to the US and been forced to sit through a meal at these places who would jave known what your post was referring to.

We also don't throw shrimp on the Barbeque. We call them Prawns and they are best eaten cooked but cold with beer.

Onya mate.

Re:I would've won...

[Snookmz]

Actually i found it quite funny.. It's not thought that we Australians go around saying "a dingo ate my baby".. You Sir, must live in the eastern suburbs of Sydney.. Your Arrogance shows your location ;)

Re:I would've won...

[Anonymous Coward]

Your parent actually looks rather culturally ignorant. There was a very well-known court case in Australia in the mid-80s about a mother (Lindy Chamberlain) who was accused of murdering her baby, Azaria. She claimed that instead a dingo ate her baby. Eventually she was let off after spending a few years in prison. Anyway, I think that is the origin of these "dingo ate my baby" quips. I'd never seen the Seinfeld episode actually, but most reasonably educated Australians would have heard of that case. If you want the full story, go to http://www.straightdope.com/columns/000922.html

Re:I would've won...

[Wild Wizard]

> "A dingo ate my project" is a play on the phrase "maybe a dingo ate your baby" which was used as a joke in an episode of Seinfeld. That's based on the line "The dingo's got my baby!" from "A Cry in the Dark [imdb.com]" and was said by Meryl Streep.

an american might see it that way but here in australia that is seen as a very low joke as there was a major investigation after a women claimed her child was attacked by a dingo in central australia

1980 Aug 19 Northern Territory: Police kill 2 dingoes after 10-week old baby Azaria Chamberlain disappears from a camp at Ayers Rock, believed taken by dingoes linky

Re:I would've won...

[Anonymous Coward]

> the Outback Steakhouse chain
The thing that amazed me about the place was they got away with serving a product they so PC-ly called "Ab-original Fries"... (!)

Re:I would've won...

[Anonymous Coward]

Culturally ignorant? That's what the movie is about. Did you actually look at the link? Yes, I could've gone into detail about the case, but I chose to take the easy way out and point out the actual source of the line I was referring to. I'm not sure if anything of that sort was actually said in the court testimony in the same dramatic way.

Re:I would've won...

[Anonymous Coward]

Maybe so, but in the US, most things are open to jokes after a reasonable amount of time, even murders, even Sept 11th. That's part of how we deal with things culturally, by laughing about it. Since it will upset you, I'll refrain from making a "dingo ate your sense of humor" joke.

Re:I would've won...

[Anonymous Coward]

forced to sit through a meal at these places

Next time order the beef steak, not the kangaroo steak.

Re:I would've won...

[Anonymous Coward]

And that's particularly ironic, because even glamorous East Sydney is known to the rest of the world as fucking down under.

God bless him and every one of the Samba team....

[SwedishChef]

for making my life easier, saving me money, earning me new clients, and pissing off Microsoft in the bargain.

NetBSD core team wins a golden Tux award

[marcovje]

How happy they will be :-)

Re:NetBSD core team wins a golden Tux award

[groggy-P]

We discussed this issue, and decided that the spirit of free software was inclusive, not divisive. Tux is just as much of a symbol for free software as the Berkeley daemon, and I'm sure that Luke would not have objected if he had received the award with a Tux.

That wouldn't have happened, though. Despite our agreement, Patryk came prepared: he had a daemon statue which he would have stuck on the pedestal had one of the BSD people won an award.

Greg Lehey
President, AUUG Inc.

Re:NetBSD core team wins a golden Tux award

[marcovje]

It wasn't meant in a mean way, it just struck me.

But I don't agree with your argumentation. For me (and I think for most people both Tux and Beasty stand for their respective OSes, not for free software as a whole)

Then the GNU Gnu would be a better choice.
(which is also not perfect for obvious reasons, but already a lot more general)

Re:Cheer yourselves up before you become extinct..

[marcovje]

Well, we got you to read Slashdot didn't we?

So somehow it does matter :-)

Re:Just curious...

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh you USian brutes! You are going to make me cry! I am a European fag and have feelings and cry very often! Don't you know what is happening to the endangered one eyed purple people eater? They are facing extinction in the Siberian Rain Forest! You USians have such horrible news coverage! You have plenty of news about your 250+ million person country but you have horrid new coverage of the important eastern european country of Bashkortostan! Those four million neanderthals deserve as much news coverage as your country. I bet after you attack Iraq (you barbarians!) you'll attack the Bashkortosans just because your president can't pronounce their country's name.

Thank you, Thank you. I'll be here all week.

w00ty w00t w00t!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

GRATS BUB! SAMBA ROCKs!

w00ty w00t w00t!

if ya think SAMBA r0x, gimme a HECK YEAH!

Re:Mmmmmm...

[Anonymous Coward]

Mmmmmm....Tux is tasty....delicious penguin steaks galore!

Re:Cheer yourselves up before you become extinct..

[ogre2112]

I use Samba daily it home and at work. Of course it means something to me, Troll.

Re:Just curious...

[Anonymous Coward]

Dude you suck, I hope youre not an American, if so, get out dude, youre embarassing us.

Australian Open Source Awards

[billiumb]

Brilliant .. well deservered to all the team

Re:Cheer yourselves up before you become extinct..

[Anonymous Coward]

Samba is for losers who can't network Unix properly.

Re:Just curious...

[Anonymous Coward]

he just said he was a european fag. can't you niggers read yet!?? what are all of my tax dollars being spent on at those public schools!?!?

Re:God bless him and every one of the Samba team..

[vsprintf]

Agreed! Now, I'm kinda surprised at the lack of general response to the article. There are always loads of people going for the throats of the Samba developers whenever they change something. Seems like we have a lot of people who are willing to take something for free and complain about it, but they aren't even willing to say thanks. THANKS Samba guys!

Re:Cheer yourselves up before you become extinct..

[Anonymous Coward]

what/s a Unix?

Where their other canidates?

[bluGill]

The problem with awards, especcialy first anual awards, is who is the compitition. Austrilia and Samba come to mind instantly. Nothing else though. I fear that next year they will either have to give Samba an award (or a key developer), or give it to something less deserving.

There are thousands of open source projects (look on sourceforge sometime, some even have code). Most are not going anywhere, and are of little use to the average person (or even /. reader).

So the question is what is next? Good for them if they find enough austrilian programers in various projects to keep giving menaingful awards. I suspect they will have trouble though.

Re:Where their other canidates?

[tangledweb]

I think you might be surprised. There is a lot of FS/OSS activity in Australia.

It might even be third after USA and Germany.

Re:Where their other canidates?

[EverDense]

Some Enlightenment on the issue.

For a start there is: Australian Contributions to the Linux movement

Re:Where their other canidates?

[Anonymous Coward]

As a former exclusive user of Apple products, things like this annoy me to no end.

Apple berates M$ for using nonstandard scroll bars. But it's OK for them to do the same.

What Apple is doing is akin to a man with a 3 inch penis trying to convince women that big fat penises are no good because of the pain that they can cause. Even though 90% of women may prefer big penises, or 90% of the world may prefer something about the Wintel platform Apple is attempting to tell them that they really don't.

Apple, your future looks dim for a reason. (most) People don't want to buy what you're selling.

MacOS may have many technical advantages over Windows, just as the devices that run WinCE have advantages over the machines that run Palm OS. But both of the loses trail for other reasons. #1 Price. I can buy a refurbed Visor Deluxe for under $100. I can get a decent PC for less than the cost of an eMac. #2 Availability of software. I can get so much more software for a Palm OS or Windows machine so, in the great platform Jihad. I choose the side based upon my computing needs. Not on my need to feel or think "different"ly.

Re:Where their other canidates?

[Anonymous Coward]

Hehehe - typical American egocentric attitude :)

Re:Where their other canidates?

[stor]

Andrew Morton is an Australian... and IMNSHO he's the best thing that's happened to the Linux Kernel in the past few years.
I could roll a few names off the top off my head: Keith Owens, Rusty Russell, Richard Gooch, Rasterman...
Tridge is a way cool dude and I'm glad he received this award.
Take a look around dude 8) You're surrounded by Australians!!! Nooo!!!!

Cheers
Stor
Proud Aussie

Re:Where their other canidates?

[informer]

Dont forget Rhys Weatherley of pnet, and many others....

Re:Where their other canidates?

[stor]

Oh for sure there's _plenty_ of others, hence the cop-out "..." at the end 8)

I wouldn't attempt to create a comprehensive list. With any list like this I'd be bound to miss a few people who are just as valid as the ones who made "Stor's List of Great Aussie Open Source Contributors(tm)".

As you imply, Aussies working on Open Source/ Free Software are not rare.

Cheers
Stor

Re:Where their other canidates?

[groggy-P]

Well, if you follow the links, specifically the award home page, you'll see that there were a total of thirteen candidates up for election. These were not all the candidates. The nominations committee had quite a job of limiting them, including some who were very deserving. I don't see any difficulty in finding enough candidates for the next three or four years; after that, I hope that new people will have sprung up to keep up the level of competition.

Greg Lehey
President, AUUG Inc.

Nice One!

[tubabeat]

I'm not sure whether the samba teams greatest contribution is to open source or to the smb protocol itself. The one thing that is for sure is that without samba it would be much harder to produce a viable migration path away from M$. The way samba is progressing I wonder how many organisations will continue to operate samba servers long after they have purged M$ from their networks?

My favourite samba feature - vfs modules!

OI!

[Anonymous Coward]

Oi is skinhead music. It is just a fact, any old skool punk from the eightys can tell you that. Go see Cockney Rejects or the Exploited and all you will hear is OI OI OI!!! The4skins are another good example of OI. Why does the guy wriying this article say OI?

Re:OI!

[tdelaney]

"Aussie! Aussie! Aussie! Oi! Oi! Oi!" is the Australian catchcry/warcry.

Try it. Go into a crowded area which could possibly have Australians (say, a large shopping centre). Yell out "Aussie! Aussie! Aussie!".

I can almost guarantee that you will get back the response "Oi! Oi! Oi!".

Re:OI!

[Anonymous Coward]

.....or everyone will just sort of look at you funny and think "what a moron". We're not yokels, you know. However, there are places where it will work (which do NOT include shopping centres):

* Australia day festivities
* Any sort of sporting event
* When Australia kicks arse over the Americans in the pool ;)

Chris

Re:Cheer yourselves up before you become extinct..

[Anonymous Coward]

An OS that wasn't dumb enough to use SMB for networking.

Praise for Andrew

[mathgenius]

Andrew is not just a coder, he is truly inspiring.
I have sat with him going over some of his code-
syntax colouring, that lego feeling, elegance.
He was the one who really taught me about programming in c;
how effortless it can be.

A simple idea: ccache
A deeper idea: genstruct

May he win many more awards!

Oi Oi Oi

[Anonymous Coward]

OK, a bit of Australian Culture 101:

Homer, for a large number reasons, chants
USA, USA, USA!!!
Aussie Homer would chant Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!!
and the crowd surrounding him (composed in their
majority by aussies) would reply with gusto,
a sharp "Oi Oi Oi!!!" .

Try it for yourself.. at new years, cricket matches, the rubgy or even at a tennis match with
Leyton Hewitt. You will be surprised.

At to those comments as the USA being the best
country in the world.. it reminds me of a party
where someone made an off handed comment that
the best cheese was from Wiconsin..five french nationals turned around and shook their heads
in unison.. with the expression "You do not
have a clue of what you are talking about".

Cheers,
Aldo

Re:Oi Oi Oi

[G-funk]

Try it for yourself.. at new years, cricket matches, the rubgy or even at a tennis match with
Leyton Hewitt. You will be surprised. .... When somebody like me throws a can of XXXX at your head. We are so very sick to death of hearing that stupid chant.

And we all know the appropriate things to chant at a cricket match:

• "HOWZAT!!!"
  
• "Come on Aussie come on!"
  
• "Bowling shane!" (and of course, "Bowling Warney, feeling horny")
  
• "Ooh ah, Glen McGrath"
  

Yelling any of these is perfectly acceptable.

Re:Oi Oi Oi

[Anonymous Coward]

"Hadlee's a wanker!"

Re:Oi Oi Oi

[Anonymous Coward]

Ah... too bad the French have already found that their famous wine was beaten by a Napa Valley winery. Why not also find out that their famous cheese is no better than that made in Wisconsin! Double blind tests are a wonderful thing indeed.

I'm a bit partial to California Cheese though. Good cheese comes from happy cows. Happy cows come from California.

Re:Oi Oi Oi

[petee moobaa]

Hey, it's an Ashes tour this summer... we'll have to deal with "Barmy Army!" chants all summer long...

OnTopic: congrats to the Samba team (and all others involved in the Awards).

Re:Oi Oi Oi

[Anonymous Coward]

Ah the ashes.... More proof that the english just don't learn :)

Re:Oi Oi Oi

[Anonymous Coward]

I usually just yawn and fall asleep until it is all over (like most of the crowd of old fellas). That's when I can't avoid being dragged along to the tedious spectacle, of course.

Re:Oi Oi Oi

[Anonymous Coward]

Don't forget

who ate all the pies?
you fat barst*d, you fat barst*d
you ate all the pies

congrats

[knighttour]

Congratulations, Tridge!

I spoke with you at some length about the chess server you were modifying on FICS without having any idea how famous you were. I assumed you were just a random codemonkey in a sea of samba coders. Hehe.

Anyway, you're a good guy with people skills to match your coding skills, which is a rare thing in programmers. I'm happy to see you won this award.

Linux Jewellery

[jukal]

the contest was sponsored by company called Silicon Breeze, they also have a shop that sells Linux jewellery. I quess now you can show others that open source can make you rich (if you sell tux jewellery :)

Re:Linux Jewellery

[POds]

Dont forget their brilliant 7" Beastie statues... Brilliant :)

Re:Linux Jewellery

[groggy-P]

Silicon Breeze is a one man show run by Patryk Zadarnowski. Patryk is a true philanthropist; he's not rich, but he donates a lot of his income to various free software projects. For example, 15% of the income from the daemon statues goes to a BSD project, and he donated the speakers' gifts (Tux and Daemon statues, depending on your taste) for the AUUG annual conference. I don't think it's appropriate to lump him with the get-rich-quick crowd.

Greg Lehey
President, AUUG Inc.

Subject confused me

[AndyAMPohl]

For more than a second I sat bewildered at the thought that the "Australian Open" and "The Source Awards" had anything to do with each other. It must be all the tennis I'm watching lately.

Andy

Re:You Have to Love Those Aussies...

[Anonymous Coward]

Ahhh, so your Mom is Australian, right? Jerkoff.

Re:Cheer yourselves up before you become extinct..

[Anonymous Coward]

An OS that's had it's nuts removed?

Congrats

[donour]

Congrats Tridg

My experience

[ortholattice]

Around 1999 when I was first learning Samba, I made a silly newbie error in smb.conf causing a misleading error message that lead me down a tortuous wrong path. I was desperate to meet an internal deadline which if missed would result in management choosing NT for our file server. With no luck on newsgroups, I wrote the Samba team and within hours got a personal response from "Tridge", who put it in the official FAQ that very same day. I was amazed. And of course the error message was fixed in the next version.

Re:My experience

[Anonymous Coward]

This is the power of Open Source. I once had a question about a project and the author himself personally replied to my e-mail. I don't think that would happen with Microsoft!

Re:My experience

[stor]

It's really easy to just pick on people, innit?

Much more challenging is being constructive.

Cheers
Stor

good work

[evilkarl]

Congrats Andrew Was the award only for samba or was it also for all work he completed as part of the samba team? After reading this forum not logged in, I can see I have my threshold said to +2, damn there are some idiots on slashdot

Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI

[Anonymous Coward]

I would of thought that an Australian that reads Slashdot might be lucky enough to have the intelligence not to indulge in such embarrassing chants as "Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI".

Re:Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI

[kokotic]

Or even avoid the trap of using 'of' instead of 'have'.

Re:Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI

[Zealous_Apathy]

embarassing?! hardly! :D

Re:Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI

[Agronomous Cowherd]

Well it MIGHT be embarresing if it was written correctly. Yelling Aussie Aussie will probably get you an ostrich :P
*writing with my thumbnail dipped in tar*

Re:Americans, why did you betray us ?

[Anonymous Coward]

You got off easy! The Hizballah raped our horses and rode off on our women!

Re:You Have to Love Those Aussies...

[deniable]

Ahhh, so your Mom is Australian, right? Jerkoff.

I can't resist the obvious: Naaaaaaaaah.

That's aussie aussie aussie.

[talentless_hack]

You wrote it wrong.
The whole point is aussie aussie aussie. oi oi oi.

The stupid chant that us Australians have become famous for when we stole it from somewhere else originally anyhow.

MARS

[Anonymous Coward]

You should be using MARS for networking, there's just no good reason to emulate an inferior network. Using Linux to emulate Windows networking is like using an ... analogy.

You have something better, more advanced, and are using it to emulate something horribly inferior, why not just use Windows in the first place if you're not using Unix networking or MARS for that matter? Get a MARS client for Windows, it's free, and it's better.

Re:MARS

[ogre2112]

There is a good reason, my boss pays me to get the job done quickly, and Samba installed within 10 minutes.

My boss likes money, you see. There hasn't been a problem with Samba yet, so if he can save the time for me to read the manuals for (insert unknown network system here) then that is money in his pocket.

As far as home.. I copy a few files now and then. I really don't care if it's more efficient. Horribly inferior or not, what advantages would MARS give me?

Re:Just curious...

[Anonymous Coward]

Compare the polution laws in YOUR country to the US.

aussie chanting

[amiol]

There are quite a number of australians that are being misrepresented here. I'm talking about the ones who cringe with national embarrassment every time some loudmoth attention seeking jerk jumps up and screams 'Aussie ...etc' at the top of their lungs.

and, It's pronounced ('Ozzee' like 'Mozzie') NOT ('orsie' like 'horsey') ;}
-james

ps. thanks andrew. Samba is *SO* cool!

How to speak Australian

[wanna_be_guru]

How to speak Australian I personally nominate Kazaa!

Netfilter, Quozl's stuff, James Henstridge...

[leonbrooks]

...the list goes on.

The quick and the dead, in this world, and we're the quick. Even the overdone unions, the mighty US dollar, and braindead pollies can't keep us down... sorry, but you're talking about "God's own country" here. Even I've contributed to a project or two and I'm only Lord Muck. (-:

Bigger than Texas. Many, many times bigger... with better radar, smarter rockets and our own space program of sorts.

Surprise! Not everything in the world happens in the USA. And did I mention that we have the most dangerous collection of wildlife in the world? (-: Not even including the crocodiles? :-)

Here We go..

[Anonymous Coward]

And he sang as he trust that jumbuk in his tucker back you'll come a waltzing matilda with me..

Decode that..

Australian Standard Notation.. ASN.1

GO AUSSIE

[Anonymous Coward]

GO ANDY,
I am Aussie too and I have a MS network at home. Without Samba I wouldn't be able to play all of the MP3s on my Dad's computer.
P.S. Is your brother an opthomoligist

[OT]Re:Netfilter, Quozl's stuff, James Henstridge.

[Anonymous Coward]

> you're talking about "God's own country" here.
Wait, I thought we talking about Australia, not New Zealand... :P

Winbind

[sydneyfong]

Speaking of samba, i must thank the samba team for releasing such a great product. I was able to sync ALL the accounts on our school network (i'm in high school) which was hosted in a (god forbid ;-p!) win2k AD server. Without it i might be trying to hack account syncronization between linux and NT boxes, which would be really a great hassle. So far it has been working great, and has worked flawlessly for about a month.

oi oi Samba! ;-p

Re:Cheer yourselves up before you become extinct..

[ogre2112]

You can't even create an account and log in, your opinion is shit.