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Bruce Perens Canned by HP

bmarklein writes "Bruce Perens has been fired by HP for "Microsoft-baiting". This was linked in part to the HP-Compaq merger, since Windows is now a much bigger part of HP's business."

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  1. Now that he has some free time... by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hey Bruce, why not run for congress?

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    1. Re:Now that he has some free time... by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Who modded me "funny"? I'm serious. The geek community desperately needs someone who "gets it" in Washington.

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    2. Re:Now that he has some free time... by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Interesting
      One of the problems of running for office is that you have to represent all of the people, not just a single issue (OK, a bunch of technology and civil liberty issues). I haven't tried that yet. A congress person's job is pretty unpleasant, and Valerie hates the DC weather (she's comparing it to Northern California). But I don't rule out running for office in the future. For now, I get to Washington about once a month to lobby and give speeches.

      There is the small problem that I'm a registered democrat, and would be running against the most liberal people in congress if I stayed where I'm living, and I don't want to do that. For example, my congress person, Barbara Lee, is the only one to have voted against the war. Which leaves Senator Boxer, and I am not sure this is realistic. I am, by the way, a registered Democrat.

      Bruce

    3. Re:Now that he has some free time... by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I'm not sure I want to repeat Nader's history with the Greens. I like the Greens and the Libertarians, I work with those folks on issues, but I don't think that my promoting their individual parties should take precedence over my achieving actual change. That might happen better through a major party.

      Bruce

  2. Re:Bruce says... by YanceyAI · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The article doesn' say HP's getting rid of all the Linux guys. It just says they fired him. Also, he doesn't claim that HP has lost interest in Linux, he says he was warned numerous times about Microsoft-baiting.

    What makes me nervous is that Microsoft might have threatened HP in some way as a partner. They obviously wouldn't want a partner promoting their product with internal factions insulting it. For that matter, HP 's argument might be that it's hard to sale your product, loaded with Windows, when you have vocal employees talking about security and usabiltiy problems.

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  3. That's funny, but... by sphealey · · Score: 4, Interesting
    That's one of the funniest posting I have read in a while! Thanks.

    But... you are being naive if you think the list you describe in your parody doesn't exist. I have been in meetings (not in the computer industry, but the principle is the same) where such things are discussed. Every successful business does indeed do that sort of thing. Given the threat that Linux poses to Microsoft's revenue stream, it would be foolish of them not to hold such discussions.

    sPh

  4. Re:Non-sequitor by madfgurtbn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If I moved from n to 1 on the list of a vendor's customers, why wouldn't I see increased leverage with my vendor?

    The merger was bitterly fought and hard won by Carly Fiorina vs the old guard of the company. It got ugly and personal. Fiorina is under extreme scrutiny and pressure to show that it was a good idea to buy CPQ. If HP management perceives that there could be any problems with M$, even if there isn't really a threat, they have to do something, because they cannot afford any missteps with Compaq.

    So, to answer your question, even if HPQ theoretically has more leverage with M$, management is not in a position to use that leverage because they cannot afford to be seen as battling M$.

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  5. Re:Hi by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I do not get royalties or residuals. I did get some stock, which I used to pay for my home. So, I was out of the stock market when it crashed, thank goodness, and don't have the debt load of most people like me. I am not rich, sorry.

    Bruce

  6. Re:Motivations. by pos · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hear, Hear!

    A good way for you to point this out to others is to mention that governments give corporations the permission to be corporations, on the presumption that they will benefit the society. The people who run the corp. get protections not allowed for individuals. In exchange, society at large can and should expect that corporation to benefit society.

    For most corporations (especially lately) society has only asked for economic growth from them. It is entirely understandable that a company would forget or try to minimize their other obligations (federal government, irs, state government, SEC, etc..) Especially since the people's voice to businesses is largely through the government and courts which are themselves often swayed by money.

    Bravo for calling out this oft-quoted fallacy for what it is.

    -pos

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