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Canon Mistakenly Announces 11-Megapixel Digital Camera

RichardtheSmith writes " PC Magazine just confirmed that Canon mistakenly announced a new 11-Megapixel digital camera that wasn't supposed to be announced for another two weeks. This caused quite a stir on the digital photography message boards like DPReview, where Canon apparently tried to have all links to the press release taken down. The PC Magazine article is here. The original press release can be found here."

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  1. 11mp by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I would like to see comparison images taken with a low level megapixel device compared with this one.

    11 megapixels is an impressive number - but means nothing to me until i see what that actually translates to - picure. 1K words. etc....

  2. The question is.... by Spit_Fire1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When will a consumer version be anywhere near that, and why do we really need to have 11mpixels for most shots, after 2mpix it was really hard to tell the difference anyway.

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  3. Or did they really? by netsharc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At least by pretending they announced this by mistake, they just generated more buzz about it. :)

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  4. 11mp is waaaay too many (for most people) by e40 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    though this camera will undoubtedly be used by pros. Most people don't realize how big a file an 11mp camera would produce at the highest quality setting, not to mention raw mode! I have a D30 (3.25mp) and the best quality jpg's are around 1mb. The D60 doubles that. Once you get a large number of images, size matters. I have 10+GB of D30 images. It means you have to have a good backup solution (read: not CD-ROM).

    1. Re:11mp is waaaay too many (for most people) by treat · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I have 10+GB of D30 images. It means you have to have a good backup solution (read: not CD-ROM).


      A DVD burner costs less than an 11 megapixel camera.

    2. Re:11mp is waaaay too many (for most people) by e40 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      This camera is probably the first to match the quality of a decent 35mm camera.

      My D30 images printed professionally are indistinguishable from 35mm prints up to 20x30. Sooooo, you'll have to qualify your statement for me to believe it. Note that the quality of lenses (I use Canon L glass) contributes significantly to image quality.

    3. Re:11mp is waaaay too many (for most people) by Darby · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This camera is probably the first to match the quality of a decent 35mm camera.
      Note that the quality of lenses


      So where does the quality of the film come into it,
      or does that matter that much?

      Plus where do you get it developed or do you do that yourself?

    4. Re:11mp is waaaay too many (for most people) by deathcow · · Score: 3, Insightful
      with lens photography there is infinate amount of raw data

      This statement is simply not true. Any lens system is ultimately limited by diffraction, and you cant get away from it. No lens can completely focus anything, there will always be diffraction effects which act to blur fine detail at some level.

      Additionally, film is a poor way to judge any systems detail/resolution, since film grains or dye clouds in slides have a finite size that is definitely larger than the pixels in todays modern CCD cameras.

      Film has one thing going for it, it is available in large sizes.

      Ultimately, the 11 megapixel cameras $6000 price will keep it mostly in the hands of people who need the resolution -- those people making large prints.

  5. won't replace film by 0111+1110 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pretty impressive, but you still can't get the constrasts and subtle shadows and depth that you can get with film. I still happily use a 2mpixel camera. I don't usually print my photos and my monitor can't go past 1200x1600 anyway.

    Perhaps what's most impressive about this leaked announcement is that Canon is not playing the release only in small increments game that companies usually do. Why release a product 4 times better than your competitors when you can keep releasing disabled products for the next 4 years that will still beat your competitors by 10% every year. Do you think Intel would just go ahead and release a 40 Ghz processor next week if they could figure out how to do it? The question is are they going to have 11mpixel cameras in their consumer and prosumer lines or just in their professional cameras?

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  6. The interesting part by SWPadnos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real news here is that the sensor is full-frame 35mm. That means that they can make a digital back for a standard 35mm camera (or a digital camera in a 35mm body, like most small pro cameras), and you will get full frame shots (ie, what you see in the viewfinder is the same as what will be on disk).

    The other good news is that they didn't reduce the pixel size to increase the resolution. This gives better image fidelity (contrast and color saturation). That's the funny part about digital camera resolution - they keep increasing the number of pixels in roughly the same sensor area - they get fewer photons per pixel, but more pixels per frame.

    This should be cool (I'll check it out at Photokina)

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  7. Re:it depends what you want to do with it by mangu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It also might be interesting if you want to enlarge some detail in the photograph.

  8. Megapixel shmegapixel by epukinsk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People go on and on about how high the resolution on a camera is, but I rarely take a picture with my 2 megapixel camera that's sharp enough to take advantage of all 2000 of those pixels. If I jitter the camera just slightly, I cut the effective resolution in half. Most of the time I could've taken the picture at a lower resolution and scaled the picture up in the GIMP and gotten the same damn picture.

    What I really want is a more sensitive CCD that can take sharper pictures with less light and more brilliant color. A razor sharp 1600x1200 picture can be printed at nearly any size and look great. Unless you have nerves of steel to hold the camera steady, you're not going to be able to take a picture sharp enough to take advantage of 11 megapixels. Unless it's high noon in Arizona and the blinding sun is at your back, your CCD just won't be fast enough.

    Erik

  9. Things change... by mahlen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Taking even a very high-resolution (for a desktop) monitor, say 1600x1200, is less than 2 Megapixels."

    And don't assume that this will always be the case in the future. I predict that someday 1600x1200 screens will seem as quaint as 640x480 screens are now.

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  10. Re:it depends if you like **Security** cameras. by buswolley · · Score: 3, Insightful

    High pixel digital cameras allow for better security cameras. being able to resolve the liscense plate numbers off a car outside a store. ie. Things further away are resolvable to a useful level. There are a lot of implications to this, i think.

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  11. Re:it depends what you want to do with it by CapnRob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Considering that this camera will sell for six thousand dollars ... and this is the important bit ... how likely is it that Canon intends it for "everyday photos or for vacation photos"?
    This camera isn't intended to replace film for "every-day use". It's intended to replace film for professionals.

  12. Re:it depends what you want to do with it by mc6809e · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Taking even a very high-resolution (for a desktop) monitor, say 1600x1200, is less than 2 Megapixels. So anything higher than that will have to be downsampled to display on a monitor anyway (either that or you'll have to scroll around). The main advantage in going higher than that is for high-quality printing. Printing a standard 3x5" photograph at 300 dpi requires a bit less than a 5 Megapixel camera, though something less will probably do okay too.

    Keep in mind that pixels on a digital camera are for one primary color only; i.e. 1 megapixel = number of red + green + blue elements = 1,000,000. Often times the ratio of green to red to blue is 2:1:1 which means that for certain images, the number of effective pixels might be 1/4 of what you'd expect. Assuming this, a digital camera would have to be a 7.68 megapixel device to fully tax your 1600x1200 monitor for all possible images.

    A better comparison between monitors and digital cameras would count phosphers in the monitor against the elements in the camera's CCD.