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Discarded AT&T Microwave Bunkers For Sale

InitZero writes "American Tower is selling nearly 2000 old AT&T Long Line microwave locations that are no longer needed thanks to fiber. These towers -- spaced about 50 miles in every direction -- and their associated bunkers were designed to withstand World War III. The average location (find one near you) has two acres of land, 1,800 square feet worth of bunker and a tower of 200 feet. Some locations still have their hardware (60KW generator, microwave feedlines, equipment racks, feed horns, etc.) All this for an average price of just $25,000. If you're a ham radio operator, building a data center or just looking for a place to put your wireless access point, these locations look awesome."

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  1. No kidding... I remember these well. by djupedal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was an Inspector on these in Northern Calif. I monitored the construction for a private firm. Concrete pours and steel, etc.

    They are hell-for-stout, no doubt. You could wipe out everything above ground in the US, and still get a dial tone. Most are in remote locations, naturally, and include fuel storage tanks (propane) and blast shielding. Just the ticket for anyone looking for the ultimate private bomb shelter.

    1. Re:No kidding... I remember these well. by muffel · · Score: 5, Funny
      You could wipe out everything above ground in the US, and still get a dial tone.
      Yeah, if everything above ground in the US was wiped out, it would really suck to not get a dialtone.
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  2. Sadly... by descentr · · Score: 5, Funny

    It appears these bunkers will NOT protect you from the fury of Slashdot.

  3. Re:Slashdotted? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "No replies yet, and it's slashdotted already?!?"

    Wouldn't most people read the article before replying? ::eyeroll::

    Okay, getting back on topic, is it possible to aim these things? I have a noisy neighbor that I'd like to ...uh.. provide free heating to.

  4. More Long Lines information by ISAKMP · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mark Foster has another really nice Long Lines site that includes a table that lists many Long Lines facilites in many states, describes the equipment installed there and has photos of some of the facilities. He also provides the technical specifications for the construction of these sites, as well as photos from tour he took of a still-operating one.

  5. blast pressure by rebelcool · · Score: 5, Informative

    is measured in lb/sq. inch. The reason the blast is so damaging to buildings is because of wall size magnifies the force to a few tons of pressure on the side of the wall. The towers if you notice, are open, thin bars that present little surface area for the blast to contact. What is exposed is well anchored.

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  6. Slashdotted Already? by MoodyLoner · · Score: 5, Informative

    Guess I'm not the only one to dream of owning a nuke-resistant bunker.



    Here's the Google cache of the site map to salivate over...



    Good news if you're back east or in the Bay Area, bad news otherwise.



    Say, wonder if Mrs. Moody would mind running a home daycare out of one of these?



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    1. Re:Slashdotted Already? by no+soup+for+you · · Score: 5, Informative
      Here's the Google cache [216.239.51.100] of the site map to salivate over...
      google does not cache images. You really could have just linked to this picture of the states' tower locations

      I appreciate the effort, but I think we should all know google's capabilities.
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  7. Made for parties by fiori · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just fill the microwave horn with popcorn and fire-up that 60kW generator.

  8. Broadband 2 boonies by CrazyDuke · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Am I the only one thinking of the possibility of buying 2 within signal distance of each other, one in a city where broadband is actually affordable, and one out in the boonies or small cities where at best people get 53K dialup and using it to set up a broadband ISP? $50,000 initial investment + permits is pretty steep still, though.

    Hell, or get paid for offering an alternative route for congested hops.

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    1. Re:Broadband 2 boonies by adolf · · Score: 5, Informative

      These things aren't in cities, for the most part.

      The one I'm familiar with is near Mount Cory, Ohio, and is situated in the middle of a corn field (or is it soybeans, this year?). It consists of a man-made hill, twenty-or-so feet tall, with a couple of small buildings on top. The tower itself is as other posters have described - not terribly tall (less than 200 feet), with an incredibly wide base. Giant feedhorns flow gracefully from it. I'm told by people who've been into it that the space below ground is much more expansive.

      High-tension transmission lines live nearby to supply power. It has its own substation.

      It would be a very poor choice as a location from which to which to distribute massive amounts of bandwidth.

      For one thing, a wireless ISP set up their NOC in an abandoned local telco building about a quarter-mile down the road from there. They constructed a rather monstrous, more modern-looking tower. I'd estimate height at 600' - it positively dwarfs the AT&T relay station.

      For another thing, it must have made more sense to build new, than buy the little relay station, or lease tower space, or whatever. Else, they wouldn't have done it. And if a couple-hundred feet would've been OK for this ruler-flat Ohio landscape, I doubt they'd have gone as far up as they did.

      And ironically, I had a conversation that went something like this when I had the comwavz installers at my house, not long after service rollout:

      Him: So, the DS-3 should be up Real Soon Now, after AT&T gets their head screwed on straight. For now, all we have is a T1.

      Me: Well, that's fine. What's the holdup on the DS-3?

      Him: I guess they can't figure out how to sell it to us via microwave.

      Me: This is the same AT&T with the relay station right over there [/me points], right?

      Him: Yeah. Strange, huh?

      It's -hard- to get bandwidth out in the sticks, even if you've got a cold war microwave relay within spitting distance. I doubt things would improve much by owning one or two instead of just being near one.

  9. Re:These sites are awesome! by Nate+B. · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm too young in the business to know, but I've been told by some of the elder techs in the company (we maintain a private microwave system) that the AT&T sites were laid out so identically to each other that a tech who knew his way around one could be blindfolded and taken into any site and would be able to work on the equipment. AT&T and the Bell System were big on standards so I don't doubt the accuracy of this claim.

    Even as careful as we are to try to maintain a standard layout, each of the sites I maintain all have their own quirks. But then, we have auxillary equipment that varies from site to site so that screws up the attempt at standardization.

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  10. Friend bought one by Lewie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A friend who owns a paging company just bought one of these. I tagged along during the negotiation and purchase. They are indeed, as a previous poster put it, "hell for stout." The scale of the tower, building and microwave cones makes the whole thing seem like a toy. It's just that weird. The towers are huge, this one is a 100 ft free-standing, 30 ft on a side IIRC with 25 foot tall microwave cones at the peak and associated waveguide down into the concrete buildings. This is a smaller installation, but still has huge power service and infrastructure, neat-o VW diesel inline 6 backup generator and enormous battery supply (the size of a truck or so), later added hardline to the top, it was a hell of a deal (more so considering how difficult towers are to get up these days).

    What really boggles my mind is the BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars that went into building these things in the 60's. They are truly incredible, inside and out. Someone decided that there WOULD be long distance (and there was).

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  11. There's a good thing in this... by Newer+Guy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Back in the olden days of satellite communications, all satellites operated on the "C" band. The bane of C band was "TI". TI stood for terrestrial interference...and these towers were the culprits! As a secondary service (these towers were the primary service), satellites were limited to very low powers (5-10 watts), so C band dishes had to be very large to pick up such feeble signals from space. Now that these are being decommissioned, maybe, just maybe, C band's potential can finally be realized. I can think of many uses of this slice of 2-4 Ghz spectrum...though the Govt. is probably already salivating at the prospect of another spectrum auction.