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Egyptian Pyramid Mysteries to Be Explored Live

An anonymous reader noted that "National Geographics will probe the inside of a blocked shaft in the Great Pyramid of Giza, and will also open the oldest intact sarcophagus found in moder times." Since this is the shaft where all the secret alien technology has been stored for the last few thousand years, and everyone knows that these "Sarcophagus" things are what the Gou'ald use to regenerate, I think this whole thing will be interesting as hell. Awh who am I kidding- I'm just a junkie on watching those specials where they explore pyramids.

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  1. not 1872! 1993 by Mazzaroth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The article sais that a stone hatch with copper handle were discovered in 1872. Wrong!.

    In 1992-3, a team using a small robot with a video camera revealed a strange stone slab, which blocks the 40-degree, 200-foot southern lower shaft. This stone has 2 copper fittings. Rudolf Gantenbrink, the head of the research project narrates: The face of the inspector sitting next to me at the monitor has become chalk white. He draws my attention to two round, white marks on the copper fittings. "These are seals, these are seals!" he exclaims, visibly shaken.. Read this totally fascinating story here. The entire UPUAUT project scientific report page is available here too.

  2. shouldn't they leave this lind of stuff to... by mattbland · · Score: 3, Funny

    SG1 !

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  3. Re:Why so long? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why? Simple. Zahi Hawass wants to cash in.

    A bit of history here...Rudolph Gantenbrink and his team discovered the door some years ago. Zahi responded by rushing them out of the country and making sure that they wouldn't be able to come back.

    For years Zahi Hawass has claimed that there is "nothing" to see up the shafts, that there is no "door". Now, he's gone 180 degrees and claims there IS a door. The whole thing is a circus, and Zahi Hawass wants to be ringmaster. He also wants to lay claim to whatever is behind that door--they've completely locked Gantenbrink out of this whole procedure, hijacking what is rightfully his "claim".

  4. Where's Geraldo? by Megane · · Score: 3, Funny

    After Al Capone's Vault, you'd think Geraldo would be a natural choice for this event.

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  5. The Hall of Records and wood in the Pyramid by dido · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Of course Hawass and his ilk are disdainful of this theory, but in the Sphinx, there is reportedly a hidden "hall of records" that is supposed to be under one of the shoulders of the Sphinx. According to Edgar Cayce, it was supposed to crumble away around the year 2000 and humankind's lost knowledge would be revealed. Naturally, Hawass and his ilk conducted extensive repairs of the Sphinx a year or two before Cayce's prophecy was supposed to come true, although there have been ground penetrating radar surveys that showed that there is indeed something there. Oddly enough, Mark Lehner was once upon a time associated with Cayce's estate and was a member of one of these teams led by SRI International that discovered this tantalizing evidence. What brought about his volte face so he's now 100% with the orthodox Egyptological establishment is unknown.

    But they aren't going to the Sphinx, right? They're shooting for that strange sealed door at the end of one of the shafts inside the Queen's Chamber. After Rudolf Gantenbrink discovered this mysterious door in 1993, which also had a wood fragment in front of it which Gantenbrink's robot couldn't pick up (and settle once and for all the question of when the Pyramid had been built), he was prevented from sending yet another improved robot down the shaft. Political pissing contest at the Antiquities Bureau sounded like. If they do manage to get the wood fragment, hopefully there'll be no cover up on the radiocarbon dating results. There has already been one (on the mortar used in some parts of the Pyramid, conducted in 1986) that gives a date for the building of the Pyramid about a thousand or so years before the 2500 BC date traditionally accepted by Egyptologists. Gee, so the Pyramid was supposedly built ca. 3800 to 2800 BC. In the Predynastic Period! Of course these results were universally ignored by Egyptologists as it would greatly upset the neat chronology they have for the building of the Giza monuments.

    This is what I get from reading too much Graham Hancock!

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  6. Re:Why so long? by ibergman · · Score: 4, Informative

    Correct.
    It's also noteworthy that the CNN article about this completely fails to acknowledge Gantenbrink's achievements and incorrectly states that the door was discovered in 1872.
    A summary of Gantenbrink's work can be found at http://www.cheops.org
    -I.

  7. Re:If someone's planning on making a DivX... by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Informative

    According to the UK site, there's going to be a live web cast.

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  8. Re:If someone's planning on making a DivX... OT by jdcook · · Score: 3, Interesting
    "man, if I had cable, I'd LOVE to give you a divx of it. hell, I'd even mail you a copy of the cd. Why? Because it's frickin fair use! If you can't watch a show, it is within your FAIR USE to have someone to record it at a later time. My parents would always do that for me when I'd miss saturday moring cartoons to go to my sanchin ryu classes. that was fair use... that's the DEFINITION of fair use.

    Fair use isn't defined. It is a doctrine that exempts certain uses from copyright infringement. Having somebody make a recording of a broadcast and send it to Japan may or may not be fair use. You could look it up.

    OTOH, the original request post being "+5 Flamebait" just kills me. I say send that sucker.

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  9. Re:Wait a second... live? by MsGeek · · Score: 3, Funny

    On FOX...naturally!

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  10. This is VERY misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    >A bit of history here...Rudolph Gantenbrink
    >and his team discovered the door some years
    >ago. Zahi responded by rushing them out of
    >the country and making sure that they
    >wouldn't be able to come back.

    This is actually a VERY misleading statement. Gantenbrink, by way of Robert Bauval, let the word out on the findings of the 'door', whereas it is standard procedure for *everyone* who is doing research there to go thru the Council of Antiquities FIRST.

    That Bauval was associated somehow with it is probably what tipped the balance (for fairness, you can read Bauval's account of the events in Secret Chamber by RB, chapter 9 I believe). The combination of having an "alternative" historian (that means one who cherry picks his 'evidences') together with the the breaking of the rules relating to announcement of discoveries is a big no no for egyptology, simply because these things get out of control, in terms of wild and completely unfounded speculation, REALLY quickly.

    Many might not realize this, but there is a huge *industry* revolving around the "mysteries" of ancient egypt, where authors who know very little of (or chose to ignore) the HUGE coherent picture that egyptology is, ignoring montains of evidence supporting it and countless others that go against their own "brilliant" speculation, end up transforming a culture into a "legacy", heavily hinting at mythical places such as Atlantis (a spurious story already of which ONLY plato talks about, and in terms heavily metaphorical), and often sliping into concepts like "noble or higher race" and the like.

    The world of "alternative egyptology" is fascinating at first glance, but is roten from the inside, trust me on this.

    Another point is that the "door" hardly is a door, as it is located in a shaft that is 8x8 inches, unless someone has a book to write about little beings using this shaft as a corridor for their daily affairs (I suspect this would easily be linked to our alledged martian legacy in a sleight of hand). The two "handles" could be many things, but even if they are handle, that doesn't make the thing a door, it just makes it a plug, with handles.

    The third thing i'd like to mention is the latent hatred of that "alternative research" community toward people like Zahi Hawass, who has, despite these people crave to dig everywhere, been dedicated to protecting and researching the Giza site for many decades. Granted Zahi has a big mouth, granted he doesn't know how to talk to journalists, but his dedication and honnesty are obvious to anybody who looks into the field (and no, reading Graham Hancock's 'work' does not qualify). Mark Lehner is in a somewhat similar yet different position, since as an ex-Cayce believer, he began his career with the goal of finding things like the "Hall of Records" (his academic training was financed by ARE, the Cayce fundation). Having learned a lot since his debuts, and having grown up, he is now bashed by his old buddies for being honnest. (don't you find it strange for instance that RB's "orion correlation theory" used to 'lock' giza to 10500BC, just as Cayce 'predicted' ? Thorough examination shows there is no such lock to such an epoch to be found, and the OCT has now been reduced to a "astetically pleasing representation" that lacks any form of precision, and hence any predictive power, rendering 10.5kBC completely and utterly arbitrary)

    The way I see it, "alternadoxy" is jumping to the gun on this, let's just wait and see what they find, if they indeed find anything, because whatever is or isn't there, it'll be one hell of a special.

    The alledged hijacking of Rudolf Gantenbrink's work is a straw man, Gantenbrink is refered to in all the papers you will find in academia relating to the exploration of the shafts. The nature of research dictates that one researcher follows another on a site, research is not for personal glory, it's about uncovering the truth. That Gantenbrink isn't always mentioned in the press is not the big deal that "alternadoxy" makes of it, after all, Dyxon isn't either and probed the shafts many decades before Gantenbrink (in his probings, he did find that the southern queen's chamber shaft seemed to be blocked at the height we know of today as the location of the plug). Also Gantenbrink has been associated with this special, if only in providing his experience to the i-robot team.

    As for "why so long?", well the pyramids aren't going anywhere, these things always take time, specifically because we do NOT want to rush in. I think the REAL question to ask is :

    Why NOW ?

    Well, think about it, it'll probably boost egyptian tourism by solving a mini-mystery. That tourism took a big blow after 9/11.

    Now THAT qualifies as very good reason to be doing this now rather than later.

  11. Re:this was tried by CaptainCarrot · · Score: 3, Interesting
    You're confusing your pseudoscientific theories. The erosion patterns aren't on the pyramids, which don't exhibit any to speak of that you wouldn't expect to find on a 5,000 year old monument in the desert that's been repeatedly vandalized over the millennia, but on the Sphinx. I'm not enough of a geologist to offer a genuine opinion either way, but it seems that most geologists don't agree the weathering on the Sphinx was caused by water. Of course, most of them haven't examined it firsthand either.

    Which may be neither here nor there anyway; the Sphinx was carved out of, and in part built on top of, a natural rock outcropping which is itself certainly older than human civilization. We shouldn't be too surprised to see weathering on it inconsitent with the time when it became the Sphinx instead of "that rock over there."

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