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One Woman's Fight to Save P2P

jalefkowit writes "I'm a writer for the Online Community Report, and in our last issue we ran a story I wrote that might be of interest to the Slashdot readership. Slashdot has already mentioned the campaign of Tara Sue Grubb to unseat Howard Coble in North Carolina's 6th congressional district. We thought this story merited some deeper analysis, so I put together a piece entitled "Tara Sue Takes Aim" that ran in the latest issue of OCR. I'd love to hear the community's opinion of our take on the significance of her campaign."

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  1. Optimistic? Very. Interesting read nonetheless. by GreyDuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My take on it? Snowball's chance in hell. Not her fault, or Dave Winer's, just how it's going to play out. The piece is worth reading anyway, both for some choice rhetoric and a few bits of background info for those of us who aren't Radioland devotees or political pundits.

    All of those nationwide supporters aren't going to help unless they all have close friends and relatives in the district of contention, now are they? Combine that with the widespread voter apathy in this country and... feh.

    (Side note: The recent mail-in elections here in Oregon barely stirred the needle above "Total Apathy," even with parents who had very vested interests in the school funding measures! "Oh, the measures won't pass anyway, so I didn't bother." You said WHAT?!? Grrrr.)

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    1. Re:Optimistic? Very. Interesting read nonetheless. by testadicazzo · · Score: 5, Insightful
      All of those nationwide supporters aren't going to help unless they all have close friends and relatives in the district of contention, now are they? Combine that with the widespread voter apathy in this country and... feh.
      Well, I agree with you on the first point. But the second point: well, because of the widespread voter apathy in this country, you only have to get a small populatin of the people to actually give enough of a shit about an issue to get a victory. It makes it easier. So if you give a damn, vote!
    2. Re:Optimistic? Very. Interesting read nonetheless. by seven89 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      My take on it? Snowball's chance in hell. Not her fault, or Dave Winer's, just how it's going to play out.
      . . .
      All of those nationwide supporters aren't going to help unless they all have close friends and relatives in the district of contention, now are they?

      It isn't necessary to win an election in order to win one specific issue. If the funding and other support Grubb gets from bloggers is enough to enable her to capture, say, 20% of the votes, then Coble might decide that further services to the entertainment industry would be a political liabiliy.

      A "losing" campaign can also accomplish a great deal in terms of organizing -- getting people involved and enthusiatic and working together and learning about issues. This could lead to more powerful challenges in subsequent campaigns and perhaps, ultimately, victory at the polls.

      These days, most political campaigns are based on "big money" which is spent on TV ads, etc. But a true "grass roots" campaign can do enough on-the-ground, door-to-door work to make up for low levels of funding.

      If outside support merely buys some miniscule amount of local advertising, then it won't make much difference. If it used to support local organizing, e.g., to pay for flyers that campaign staff go door to door handing out, etc., then it might make a lot of difference.

  2. You know, you'd think with all the bitching we do by raehl · · Score: 5, Insightful
    We'd have a Political Action Committee. We're geeks, we're well paid, and there's about 250k of us who read this website daily. Even if we only averaged a $100 contribution each per year, that's still 25 million dollars annually. We could buy ourselves a good handful of key legislators with 25 million dollars, outlaw MS in government, protect business models that compete against RIAA and MPAA, and keep that bloody spam out of my mailbox.

    The NRA has huge amounts of political clout, and I'd like to think that geeks are at least as numerous, wealthy, intelligent and organized as gun owners. Maybe it's time we stopped bitching and got off our asses and did something about it?

  3. Precedent for future campaigns... by Shalome · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All P2P issues aside, it's fascinating to think about what this form of campaigning means to the American public. Ponder for a second the legions of disaffected Americans who sit at their computers daily, reading blog after blog. Wouldn't you like to read a blog written by, say, your elected official? Not some slick press-release from the public relations branch of said official's staff, but an actual blog -- real thoughts and opinions. Would you be more inclined to vote? I hope to see more of this in the future. Most Americans don't vote because they feel so distanced from the political process, and from the politicians themselves. Most of us don't even really know the views of the people on the ballot (since we're all too smart and hip to buy into the media mudslinging and muckracking that campaigning has turned into.. right? RIGHT?) If more officials did something as courageous as putting their thoughts and opinions out there in the ether like Ms. Grub, can you imagine how the political process might change? Geeks might vote! Intelligent people might get elected, not just ones who can afford a good PR department! And wouldn't that make the world a better place?

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  4. A cultural revolution is happening by ites · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In "Ender's Game", Orson Scott Card depicted a world in which a few individuals could influence society simply through the power of their words, via the Net.
    Something like this is starting to take place. The online word is almost powerful enough to counter traditional political forces: the backroom politics arranged over a handshake and a drink.
    This fight is attracting those with an interest in P2P and the Net. Tomorrow's fights will be more broad based.
    But, please, someone find a better term than "Blogging"!

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  5. Has everyone written the Rep? by HerrGlock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Has everyone who is part of Tara Sue's campaign written, on paper, with envelope, Howard Coble to complain about the idea of MPAA or RIAA being able to hack at will?

    Congress tends to blow off email, like it or not, and pay a lot more attention to written letters and more even to handwritten letters outlining the person's stance on whatever issue.

    A quote that stuck with me from a Congress person's interview, "People don't contact their congressmen anymore. Hardly anyone writes letters, or even calls. As little as 12 letters has directly influenced the way I handle issues and represent the people... I can only assume if those dozen people care enough to write, there are thousands of people I am representing that care just as much, but never took the time to write."

    Write, write, write. Email, and call as well, but write. If the Rep then ignores the letters, then by all means set up an alternative for voting, but while the election is there, write as well.

    DanH

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  6. It's not about music, it's our PRIVACY stupid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a REPUBLIC my friends. My rights end where your rights begin.

    On P2P, Privacy rights far outweigh copyrights. There is always an alternative. Coble and Berman want to portray us as pirates because they know the average individual is smart enough to see this bill for what it is. Who's gonna listen to a pirate, right?

    I'm no pirate. I've never stolen anybody's eight cents. I'm protecting our right to privacy. I'm doing Mr. Coble's and Mr. Berman's job---pro bono! These boys need to head back to law school. They just don't get it.

    The Coble/Berman camp thinks Libertarians should support this bill. There are many issues surrounding P2P other than privacy and IP. If it passes, this bill will set a dangerous precedent for the future of our privacy. Show me a law that hasn't been abused by a lawyer and his client somewhere.

    There is another important point champions for free markets support. There are several extremely successful business models that have demonstrated the advantages in file sharing. Phish and the Grateful Dead are the two largest "cult" bands in history. They encourage their audience to share their music. They have record sales and performances. They have a real touch on what it means to participate in a free society.

    The goal of a free market is to weed out the weak. It's ridiculous for industries to yell "foul!" when a new industry hits the scene. It is not government's place to ensure any particular entity's market. That priviledge belongs to the consumer. In this case the consumer is telling the industry what it wants. Berman & Coble are saying they don't have to listen.

    The manner in which the entertainment industry has chosen to compensate for its weakness is beyond deplorable. I myself was the recent victim of a virus or hacker. These are very bad, but if you contribute to the Coble/Berman campaign, it's ok. These double standards are outrageous.

    Another issue is the trade off of privacy for protection. The author of "Let Hollywood Hack" (one of the articles on Mike's blog) James D. Miller, says:

    "While we should regret any loss of privacy, fighting crime often requires reducing the privacy rights of innocents. For example, our privacy is violated when we walk through a metal detector or are searched by airport security Indeed, NASA may soon even scan the brains of airline passengers in efforts to detect terrorists. Surely, scanning hard drives is far less objectionable than scanning brains."

    I am almost reluctant to respond to sophmoric arguments such as these. I am not convinced that the need to fight this crime outweighs our right to privacy. And I don't see that it ever could. Miller compares this issue to airport security, which of course is beyond ludicrous. First, lives are not at stake in P2P. Secondly, scanning a citizen's personal computer is far more intrusive than walking through a metal detector. Allowing Hollywood to arbitrarily hack into a PC, not knowing the user and actual perpetrator is unjustified. And third, comparing the scanning of hard drives to the future of privacy violations is senseless. Of course scanning hard drives is less objectionable than scanning brains, but that is not happening. A reasoned argument does not throw out some unrealized, futuristic possibility to shock and amaze in order to lessen the gravity of our situation.

    In addition to all of this, sacrificing privacy has not ensured one ounce of protection, it has merely provided the illusion of its existence. As we know, metal detectors don't stop terrorism. The P2P bill won't stop file sharing. In fact, it will increase any perceived loss and add to consumer contempt. This because two men hadn't the nerve nor the wit to protect the constitution and encourage good business. That is the real casualty.

    Libertarians aren't sell outs. That's why it takes so much of YOUR effort to put them into office and that's why I don't support this bill. It reaks of corporate favortism at Liberty's expense. And every person I talk to understands this.

  7. Two-party system by photonic · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This might get the discussion a bit off-topic, but i think you should concentrate a bit more on the root cause that prevents getting this kind of sane people in congress instead of supporting a probably hopeless battle against big money.


    In my opinion this is the district-system. If votes are counted only in small regions that yield only one seat, you effectively create a two-party system. These two usually keep each other in close balance: you stay in power until you screw up and then the other party gets its chance for a few years.


    Here in Europe (except for England and France?), the votes are usually counted in the whole country (usually with a threshold of a few percent). Most countries therefore have a mix of parties (green, labour, liberal, christian, ...) which represents the general opinion more closely. This might also reduce the chance of big money influence.

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  8. Re:You know, you'd think with all the bitching we by devonbowen · · Score: 3, Informative
    The EFF is a good start. Are you a member? How many slashdot readers are? I've always wanted a poll done on that. The dues are only $75 per year.

    They even have a web site that makes it trivial for you to write your congress folk. They supply text which you can modify or rewrite entirely. They then look up your representatives according to your zip code and will send the text for you. Couldn't be simpler.

    So what are you waiting for?

    Devon

  9. Speaking of elections . . . by vegetablespork · · Score: 3, Informative
    . . . has anyone been able to get a straight answer from their U.S. Senator as to how he or she would vote on the CBDTPA (or other anti-digital freedom legislation) if it came to a vote today?

    My Senator, Jean Carnahan (D-MO), dodged the question with some flowery language about how she wanted "to encourage the adoption of broadband," which tells me she'd vote for it. (My letter was obviously opposed.)

    I just sent an email asking the question point blank to Sen. Carnahan, and also to her Republican challeneger, Jim Talent.

    Any reports from other states?

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    1. Re:Speaking of elections . . . by WCMI92 · · Score: 3, Informative

      "My Senator, Jean Carnahan (D-MO), dodged the question with some flowery language about how she wanted "to encourage the adoption of broadband," which tells me she'd vote for it. (My letter was obviously opposed.)

      I just sent an email asking the question point blank to Sen. Carnahan, and also to her Republican challeneger, Jim Talent."

      AFAIK, the only guy who has publically come out against what the RIAA is doing is Rick Boucher, a Republican from Virginia.

      Other than him I'm not aware of a SINGLE Congressman who is on our side.

      This is an issue where Democrats (who ARE the party of Hollywood), and Republicans (the party of corporations) will march in lock step.

      The only alternative is to get the Libertarians into some power. Geeks number large enough to do so. The Libertarian party is the SOLE party that stands for reducing the government to it's Constitutionally defined responsibility.

      Passing laws allowing people to invade property on a whim seems to me to be a clear violation of the Constitution. For one, there IS a right to property expressed in the Bill of Rights. Also, the power to authorize some to violate property of others is not an ENUMERATED power of the Federal Government.

      Remember, the 10th Amendment forbids the Feds from excersing ANY POWER NOT SPECIFICALLY GIVEN them by the Constitution!

      We've allowed the Demopublicans to violate this for so long, it's become taken for granted that Congress can pass any law it wants to. It can't.

      IMO, the ultimate solution that will bring balance back into our system is criminal penalties for legislators/executives who vote for, impose/enforce illegal law (laws that are Unconstitutional).

      Why shouldn't they be held personally to account for the laws they pass? After all, ignorance is not a defense for the 300 million of us who are subject to many thousands of thousands of laws that it'd be impossible to know.

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  10. ladies of liberty by Dr.+Awktagon · · Score: 3, Informative

    Don't forget to pick up a copy of your Ladies of Liberty Calendar...

    Introducing the North Carolina Ladies of Liberty Calendar! Their turn-ons are long walks on the beach, candlelit dinners and free-market economies. Yes, the Libertarian party has some righteous BABES!

    Are all libertarians this attractive and intelligent or is there something in the water in NC?

  11. Re:You know, you'd think with all the bitching we by Our+Man+In+Redmond · · Score: 3, Informative

    These people are trying to set one up. They're affiliated with the American Open Technology Consortium. If I understand the relationships, it's sort of like the Sierra Club's political wing as opposed to their lobbying/educational wing.

    Unfortunately they don't seem to have their act together yet. For instance, I sent the AOTC some seed money about three months ago and the check hasn't been cashed yet. Their manifesto shows them only having received three pledges, which I think means it hasn't been updated in several months. GeekPAC is still working on authority to operate as a political action committee (there's a lot of legal mumbo-jumbo involved), but is taking donations on the assumption that approval will be granted.

    And, my final gripe is, the name GeekPAC has to go. It's fine as a nickname among geeks, but outside the community the name "geek" carries some prett negative connotations. Might as well call it "WeirdoPAC" or "GoonPAC" or something.

    Don't get me wrong, I hope these are just growing pains on the way to an organization that can play with the big boys and occasionally win.

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  12. Tara and I, and my campaign by firewort · · Score: 3, Informative
    I'm running for the NC State House as the Libertarian candidate.

    I've been a /.er for a few years and decided it was time to get involved as opposed to only replying on /. -

    See my site at http://victormarks.org - unfortunately you won't see my stance on IP issues/copyright law on that page, simply because as a state representative, it's a non-issue- those laws are made in US congress, not the state legislature.

    Instead, state legislatures get to deal with laws concering EULAs, ( http://www.cptech.org/ecom/ucita/ ), laws concerning model health acts , ( http://www.disinfo.com/pages/article/id2454/pg1/ ) and other threats to our rights to live our lives without intrusion.

    Tara really latched onto Coble's prominent "I've-been-bought" issue, and has done well with it- however, the Coble bill isn't going to go anywhere- even Republican candidates I know are writing Coble telling him to put it to rest.

    Vote Libertarian! http://victormarks.org

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